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I have a Dev Edition on 4.4.2 and getting some weird stuff from some apps. What is the SIMPLIEST way to wipe and start fresh and not lose root? I am bootloader unlocked, rooted on a Dev edition.
Thanks!
Have you read the responses in the 2 other recent threads you started asking the same thing??? People gave you your answer in both threads.
In case you can't find them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706551
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679602
If you still need help, here's a guide with everything you need to know. You really should read it, and the other stickies and learn a bit more about this stuff, it could save you a costly mistake.
Guide for most everything,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Good luck.
Also, if you are bootloader unlocked, you don't have to worry about losing root. You can just flash it again
-Eclipsed Moto X-
All the guides I have read for root lead me here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
I would prefer NOT to void my warranty. But is this the only way to get root? I dont need a custom rom, etc. I just want root.
Thanx
I have a Moto X running 4.4.3 stock. Unlocked but not DEV edition
If your device is unlocked, then you should be able to use custom roms and such.
But if you want just basic root, try out TowelPieRoot. I am not sure if it works on 4.4.3, but it is confirmed to work on 4.4.2.
Please search around and read some guides next time, this information was already available from many resources in this forum!
Tried that. Says it successfully rooted but as far as I can tell it is not rooted.
dier325 said:
If your device is unlocked, then you should be able to use custom roms and such.
But if you want just basic root, try out TowelPieRoot. I am not sure if it works on 4.4.3, but it is confirmed to work on 4.4.2.
Please search around and read some guides next time, this information was already available from many resources in this forum!
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cadesdefy said:
Tried that. Says it successfully rooted but as far as I can tell it is not rooted.
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Read through the threads. There are plenty of explanations and people in your position. If you do not have the patience to do so, then the current rooting methods probably won't be for you.
If your device is not a developer edition and you unlocked, I believe that means you already have voided the warranty.
Rooting with an unlocked bootloader doesn't require pie, etc, it's rather basic at this point, installing a custom recovery and installing supersu
Sent from my XT1058
cadesdefy said:
All the guides I have read for root lead me here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
I would prefer NOT to void my warranty. But is this the only way to get root? I dont need a custom rom, etc. I just want root.
Thanx
I have a Moto X running 4.4.3 stock. Unlocked but not DEV edition
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I'm surprised nobody has stated this yet, but.......questions belong in the Q&A section. Please post to the correct sub-forums. See the second "sticky" thread at the top of the General Section.
Also, when you say unlocked, you ARE referring to bootloader-unlock, right? And not SIM-Unlock?
If so, the previous posters are absolutely correct. Your warranty is already toast. See the "One Stop Shop" rooting guide - it will point you in the correct direction.
1- Sorry, I posted it in the wrong forum. I apologise.
2- I was unclear when I said unlocked. I meant SIM unlocked incase it made any difference.
I just want my xposed framework, but I would like to keep my warranty. I read through the forums for an hour and could not find a method for rooting that didn't require me to void my warranty which is why I posted the question. I am a programmer, but not a Android Programmer. I have no interest at this point in custom roms, etc. I just want root.
I appreciate the feedback and again sorry for posting in the wrong forum
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I'm surprised nobody has stated this yet, but.......questions belong in the Q&A section. Please post to the correct sub-forums. See the second "sticky" thread at the top of the General Section.
Also, when you say unlocked, you ARE referring to bootloader-unlock, right? And not SIM-Unlock?
If so, the previous posters are absolutely correct. Your warranty is already toast. See the "One Stop Shop" rooting guide - it will point you in the correct direction.
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TowelPieRoot can be completely removed without a trace. We are pretty sure it doesn't void warranty.
cadesdefy said:
1- Sorry, I posted it in the wrong forum. I apologise.
2- I was unclear when I said unlocked. I meant SIM unlocked incase it made any difference.
I just want my xposed framework, but I would like to keep my warranty. I read through the forums for an hour and could not find a method for rooting that didn't require me to void my warranty which is why I posted the question. I am a programmer, but not a Android Programmer. I have no interest at this point in custom roms, etc. I just want root.
I appreciate the feedback and again sorry for posting in the wrong forum
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I had a feeling you might have meant SIM-Unlock. This is completely unrelated to rooting, unfortunately.
If TowelPieRoot didn't work for you (DOWNLOAD A ROOT-CHECKER to be sure - find one in the play store. It will confirm if you have been rooted or not), sorry, but your ONLY option is to unlock the bootloader. There are mixed reports on whether or not TPR works on 4.4.3. Some variants apparently CAN use it, while others CAN'T.
Keep in mind that unlocking the BL is FAR superior to any of these exploits. You gain permanent root and wp-off.
The important question is which model you have. If you have the XT1053, you CAN unlock through Moto's official website. If not, you might not have any options at all unless you can get unlocked through the "china middleman".
If you have XT1053, your best bet is to go ahead and unlock the BL. Sure it will void your warranty, but I I really don't understand the fear of that. If you (for instance) break your device, warranty possibly won't cover it anyways if they determine it is "abuse" (e.g. you drop it). And aside from that there are very few things that can go wrong. All I can think of is the possibility of the screen going bad, or the speaker quitting working or something like that.....but there are extremely few reports of anyone actually needing to use warranty service.
Additionally, there are many reports of people who unlocked, and Moto honored the warranty anyways. I'm not going to suggest that they WOULD, but others have advised they did it for them.
Do what you want, but realize that if you want root, the ONLY option is to unlock.
Good Luck
If you don't want to void the warranty and have root access, buy a developer edition then sell your phone (or vice versa). That's the only way you'll be able to satisfy those 2 conditions.
I have to use pie root to get exposed working but I can confirm it works on 4.4.2 not sure about 4.4.3. I use the moto x tool kit to get pie root you can find it in the forums it's pretty easy
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Hi everyone
Okay so Im going to ask a couple of noob questions here. I have been doing a lot of searching on and off xda but I still have a few doubts about rooting/flasing/unlocking my moto x.
If these questions have been asked before I apologize.
First off, I know that my motoX is from ATT, so it has a locked bootloader, right?
And also that it is a 16GB version so is definitely not DE.
I came across a source where it said I can still root my X with a locked bootloader and that must enable me to flash custom roms. Is this true? (I am a little hesitant about trusting websites other than xda). Why do we even need to unlock the bootloader then? if flashing custom roms is a go with root.
My phone is currently on 4.2.2. How am i supposed to find out if this is the pre or post camera update?
I would really appreciate your replies here as I am holding back from updating to KitKat (I read bootloader cant be unlocked on 4.4). Thanks a lot!
See this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2826159
And you can not flash roms without a custom recovery. And you can't have a custom recovery without an unlocked bootloader.
Whatever you read on another site sounds plain wrong. So proceed with caution.
You can try the thread in general about the Chinese Middleman and see if you can unlock your bootloader for $45. That's your only hope at the moment.
Good luck!
alimzia said:
Hi everyone
Okay so Im going to ask a couple of noob questions here. I have been doing a lot of searching on and off xda but I still have a few doubts about rooting/flasing/unlocking my moto x.
If these questions have been asked before I apologize.
First off, I know that my motoX is from ATT, so it has a locked bootloader, right?
And also that it is a 16GB version so is definitely not DE.
I came across a source where it said I can still root my X with a locked bootloader and that must enable me to flash custom roms. Is this true? (I am a little hesitant about trusting websites other than xda). Why do we even need to unlock the bootloader then? if flashing custom roms is a go with root.
My phone is currently on 4.2.2. How am i supposed to find out if this is the pre or post camera update?
I would really appreciate your replies here as I am holding back from updating to KitKat (I read bootloader cant be unlocked on 4.4). Thanks a lot!
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There is either a lot of misinformation, or misunderstanding, or both. My guess is a little of both.
What you have read about is using an exploit to root and disable write protection. This is VERY different from actually unlocking the bootloader. These exploits are temporary, and they do not allow you to flash custom roms. They only allow flashing "stock-based, safestrap-compatible" ROMs. While this can be useful, there is no comparison to unlocking the bootloader. Be careful to not confuse the two.
@KJ has pointed you in the right direction. I only wanted to clarify that what you are referring to is "write-protect disable", which again is very different from bootloader unlock. Follow his advice and read up so you can better understand. In the mean-time, don't accept any OTAs until you have decided which option is best for you.
Good Luck :good:
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There is either a lot of misinformation, or misunderstanding, or both. My guess is a little of both.
What you have read about is using an exploit to root and disable write protection. This is VERY different from actually unlocking the bootloader. These exploits are temporary, and they do not allow you to flash custom roms. They only allow flashing "stock-based, safestrap-compatible" ROMs. While this can be useful, there is no comparison to unlocking the bootloader. Be careful to not confuse the two.
@KJ has pointed you in the right direction. I only wanted to clarify that what you are referring to is "write-protect disable", which again is very different from bootloader unlock. Follow his advice and read up so you can better understand. In the mean-time, don't accept any OTAs until you have decided which option is best for you.
Good Luck :good:
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Okay i just need root for using titanium backup. Just one question though before i go on with it. After rooting my device (currently 4.2.2) can i continue to get OTA updates? If so, till what version (4.4 max)?
Again thankyou for your replies. Appreciate it.
alimzia said:
Okay i just need root for using titanium backup. Just one question though before i go on with it. After rooting my device (currently 4.2.2) can i continue to get OTA updates? If so, till what version (4.4 max)?
Again thankyou for your replies. Appreciate it.
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If you are now on 4.2.2, you're one of the lucky ones..... You can still use the slapmymoto method and get full root with write protection disabled!!
See that section in the one stop shop thread.
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But you can't go higher than 4.4 to keep all that.
Hey Sam i know this is Off topic but tell me more about Republic wireless and why you like them im thinking of switching from big red
qweesy said:
Hey Sam i know this is Off topic but tell me more about Republic wireless and why you like them im thinking of switching from big red
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Sent you a PM.
KJ said:
If you are now on 4.2.2, you're one of the lucky ones..... You can still use the slapmymoto method and get full root with write protection disabled!!
See that section in the one stop shop thread.
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But you can't go higher than 4.4 to keep all that.
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Okay, after rooting will i be able to receive OTA for 4.4? If so, will it still be write protection disabled?
alimzia said:
Okay, after rooting will i be able to receive OTA for 4.4? If so, will it still be write protection disabled?
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You would have to read the slapmymoto thread, but I believe you would flash 4.4 with fastboot . And that's it. If you upgrade to 4.4.2 or higher, you will have write protection enabled again.
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You would have to read the slapmymoto thread, but I believe you would flash 4.4 with fastboot . And that's it. If you upgrade to 4.4.2 or higher, you will have write protection enabled again.
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Yeah I read that. It is a long method...
I dont know why write protection is so important, i dont know what it does. All I care about is root. If write protection doesn't matter to me just as much, should i rather just receive the OTA to 4.4 right now and THEN root my device? (I just need root privileges for titanium and xposed)
What would you recommend? Is write disabling write protection that important? Thanks again.
Isnt there a way to root directly from 4.4? (Wont slapmymoto work?)
alimzia said:
Yeah I read that. It is a long method...
I dont know why write protection is so important, i dont know what it does. All I care about is root. If write protection doesn't matter to me just as much, should i rather just receive the OTA to 4.4 right now and THEN root my device? (I just need root privileges for titanium and xposed)
What would you recommend? Is write disabling write protection that important? Thanks again.
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Yes, it is that important. Without write protect disabled, you have to re-root after every reboot. Titanium backup won't work fully because all changes are reverted upon reboot. You will have a heck of a time getting xposed to word if you even can without it disabled.
Yes you can update to 4.4 but not higher. If you use safestrap, you can flash stock based Roms all the way up to 4.4.4. But your bootloader and partition table will remain on 4.4 - this allows you to keep root and write protect disabled.
Be very careful. If you update the bootloader or partition table past 4.4 there is no going back and you will lose the ability to disable write protect permanently.
Basically, without write protect disabled, anything you change gets reverted back upon reboot. You also lose root and have to re-root after every reboot... Not very useful...
alimzia said:
Yeah I read that. It is a long method...
I dont know why write protection is so important, i dont know what it does. All I care about is root. If write protection doesn't matter to me just as much, should i rather just receive the OTA to 4.4 right now and THEN root my device? (I just need root privileges for titanium and xposed)
What would you recommend? Is write disabling write protection that important? Thanks again.
Isnt there a way to root directly from 4.4? (Wont slapmymoto work?)
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I'm not a slapmymoto expert, since I never needed it... But I believe you need to start on 4.2.2 with it. Then upgrade. Again... You'd need to read on it.
With write protection disabled you can store to the system then. Definitely needed for Xposed.
Trust me.... There's people with locked bootloaders on 4.4.2 and up that would kill to be able to use slapmymoto. ?
Alright thanks a lot guys. Ive made up my mind, going to go through with it, definitely need xposed!
Oh btw just out of curiosity, does Towel-pie-root work with 4.4?
alimzia said:
Alright thanks a lot guys. Ive made up my mind, going to go through with it, definitely need xposed!
Oh btw just out of curiosity, does Towel-pie-root work with 4.4?
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I believe so.... But people have trouble with Xposed.
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Same thing too.... Even IF you get Xposed to work... All undone on a reboot or power down.
hello frnd
please help to unlock my mobile to install new themes and apps ..
thank you:silly:
Use search button first! Don't spam and next time you ask some question you should type more details. Type like this will make us more confuse..
tollytrendz said:
hello frnd
please help to unlock my mobile to install new themes and apps ..
thank you:silly:
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First of all, welcome to XDA.
Second, you dont need to "unlock bootloader" for themes and apps. Root is enough.
You can find how to root it in Development section of Xperia Z1 forum.
For any question, write here, and i will reply as soon i can.
electrash said:
First of all, welcome to XDA.
Second, you dont need to "unlock bootloader" for themes and apps. Root is enough.
You can find how to root it in Development section of Xperia Z1 forum.
For any question, write here, and i will reply as soon i can.
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Hello its a new person as you can see. I do have a few questions for concerning root. I am in the process of trying to learn how to root my phone which is the Z1 S. Would you be able to explain the difference in root with lock boot loader and a root with unlocked boot loader? I have tried the search button but came up little info on it. I would like to be able install roms, themeing, apps,modz, wifi and blue tooth tethering the whole nine yards lol. Maybe I should be asking which method would be best for all that. Locked or unlocked bootloader?
Thank you for all the help and your time it is greatly appreciated.
Not sure if you need this info
model- C6916
Build-14.4.13.0.37
willdoe said:
Hello its a new person as you can see. I do have a few questions for concerning root. I am in the process of trying to learn how to root my phone which is the Z1 S. Would you be able to explain the difference in root with lock boot loader and a root with unlocked boot loader? I have tried the search button but came up little info on it. I would like to be able install roms, themeing, apps,modz, wifi and blue tooth tethering the whole nine yards lol. Maybe I should be asking which method would be best for all that. Locked or unlocked bootloader?
Thank you for all the help and your time it is greatly appreciated.
Not sure if you need this info
model- C6916
Build-14.4.13.0.37
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You are using Z1s so you cant unlock your bootloader. It's locked by request of T-Mobile...
However you can root without unlock bootloader
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53407127&postcount=1004
or just use Towelroot to root
You can install recovery (must have for rooted device), ROM, any many things...but no Kernel for now (require unlocked bootloader...)
willdoe said:
Hello its a new person as you can see. I do have a few questions for concerning root. I am in the process of trying to learn how to root my phone which is the Z1 S. Would you be able to explain the difference in root with lock boot loader and a root with unlocked boot loader? I have tried the search button but came up little info on it. I would like to be able install roms, themeing, apps,modz, wifi and blue tooth tethering the whole nine yards lol. Maybe I should be asking which method would be best for all that. Locked or unlocked bootloader?
Thank you for all the help and your time it is greatly appreciated.
Not sure if you need this info
model- C6916
Build-14.4.13.0.37
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Unlocked bootloader is always rootable. But there is no difrence if you achive root with BL or UBL.
ROOT is just admin right and gives you option to mess around your phone.
And if you aim just to modify your phone a little bit, always try to root it without unlocking bootloader.
Hello again I am hoping someone would be willing to help me understand whats in this link a little more!! There are a few things I dont understand. Like what does he mean by some on boot app to run as root. Does he mean like titanium backup? Also would I run this command in adb? /system/xbin/kill_ric.sh. Thank yall a bunch for the help its greatly appreciated!!!! Below is the link I need help with thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=1004
Hi all,
Is there a way to root the zenfone 8 without tripping knox? Reading about the ramdump issues has made me want to keep the device in a state that I can reverse and send back if need be (at least for a while).
Cheers
Knox in an Asus phone? It's a Samsung thing.
There is no KNOX.
But if you unlock your bootloader - then ASUS will receive your s/n of motherboard and you will loose your warranty permanently. I heard that in some EU countries it should'n be a problem, but personally I have never had such law practice.
So wait for other replies or contact your area ASUS support.
Ah, okay thanks. Am I correct in thinking there is no root that can be done without unlocking bootloader and flashing a patched boot img? Sorry if these are silly questions, it has been a while for me!
lilfellabob said:
Am I correct in thinking there is no root that can be done without unlocking bootloader
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That is correct. From what I understand; without an unlocked bootloader, nothing regarding boot images or system files are accessible.
Since Android 6 'regular' rooting requires an unlocked bootloader. There are exploit solutions like Kingoroot, which maybe still might work (not sure a bout this), but the problem with these dubious tools is, that you don't know what they really are doing, and how they possibly modify and monitor your phone and data from then on..
Elmarigo said:
Since Android 6 'regular' rooting requires an unlocked bootloader. There are exploit solutions like Kingoroot, which maybe still might work (not sure a bout this), but the problem with these dubious tools is, that you don't know what they really are doing, and how they possibly modify and monitor your phone and data from then on..
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Okay, thanks. Yeah, I don't think I want to travel down that road!