Galaxy Watch 3 Alternatives - Samsung Galaxy Watch 3

Because of the shortened battery life, has anyone used any alternative watches to the gw3 that are comparable and have mostly the same features (calls, texting, emails, etc.) in the US for android?

Anyone?

No alternative in the Smartwatch World Only alternative with better battery life in the Tracker World but 0 function
Maybe Fitbit Versa 3 & Sense. A little Smart a full tracker and no bad battery life

Samsung Galaxy Watches are the only Android e-sim standalone for USA carriers with LTE 4g bands....

Just seeing if there are any bluetooth alternatives out there. I just got a gw3 yesterday hoping it would be better than the og gw and not disconnect all the time but 24 hours later and the watch is down to 43%. Just not gonna cut it when I am not using it much. I like the watch ecosystem but this battery is just not good.

I got my GW3 the first day it was available at my local store and have just established a routine where every other evening I put it on the charger for a couple hours then put it back on before I go to bed. Only times I have varied is when I switched to watch faces that were battery killers.

Goofbutt said:
I got my GW3 the first day it was available at my local store and have just established a routine where every other evening I put it on the charger for a couple hours then put it back on before I go to bed. Only times I have varied is when I switched to watch faces that were battery killers.
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Yeah, I charge mine every day for 1-2 hours depending on my use. I wish it charged a lot faster and then charging every day wouldn't be a problem.

galaxys said:
Samsung Galaxy Watches are the only Android e-sim standalone for USA carriers with LTE 4g bands....
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Samsung uses Tizen on Galaxy Watches not Android.

Vahur_v said:
Samsung uses Tizen on Galaxy Watches not Android.
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True, they interface with Android phones.

jhcomputerguy said:
Just seeing if there are any bluetooth alternatives out there. I just got a gw3 yesterday hoping it would be better than the og gw and not disconnect all the time but 24 hours later and the watch is down to 43%. Just not gonna cut it when I am not using it much. I like the watch ecosystem but this battery is just not good.
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I got the GW3 LTE direct from Samsung and I easily get 48-52 hrs on a charge: WiFi set to auto, LTE set to auto (I'm on what's left of Sprint), no AOD on, +several notifications. So not sure why you're not getting good battery life. I have noticed anywhere from 1-1.3% discharge per hour. I use it with my Samsung Note 20 5G (standard)

I use an active 2 and a GW3, switch between the two. Since they both use the same OS, same app. It's a seamless switch, kind of like wearing the same watch all the time. I don't need to worry about battery life cause I'll always have 1 fully charged.
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TicWatch ?

I have the Samsung Gear S2. It has 250 mAh battery life and it can work for 2–3 days depending upon the usage.

wease said:
I use an active 2 and a GW3, switch between the two. Since they both use the same OS, same app. It's a seamless switch, kind of like wearing the same watch all the time. I don't need to worry about battery life cause I'll always have 1 fully charged.
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I do the same...

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Bad battery life from professional reviewers

I am sick of hearing about how bad the battery life is on the Gear.
My Gear have great battery life, charge it every two days but yesterday.
The Google Smart watch is coming and it has much better battery life that the Gear's 12 hours??? !!!
Who can only get 12 hours on the Gear, and what do you do to burn the battery that quick?
Mine also lasts 2-3 days.. I'm connected to the note 2 if that makes a difference.
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Mine also lasts 2-3 days.. I'm connected to the note 2 if that makes a difference.
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Should make no difference at all.
thats because most reviewers dont know what they are talking about
My battery life is great. 3 to 4 days moderate use. And worse comes to worse wack it on the charger while i get ready for work and I have a days worth of battery.
I have a feeling they had pre-release versions which may have had worse battery life. Shame!
Yes, with more recent gear manager updates, I get around 3 days+
Mine lasts 3-4 days.
But I am only using it during the work day.
At the end of the day I have 85% left everyday. I think its biased reviews. I'm sure if the apple watch had a 6 hour battery they would says its genious and revolutionary.
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As a longtime 'professional' reviewer for over a decade (for the high fidelity audio industry), the non-rooted watch gives about 2 to 3 days battery life. Also, I don't recall seeing any reviews where they sideloaded apps, which makes the watch even more useful :good:
Frankly, don't trust all reviewers. :cyclops:
hahaha .... :laugh: ... they (those reviewers said about bad battery life) have already decided just on the number of xxx mAh. (once they see it.). :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I NEVER TRUST ... I TRUST MYSELF ON WHAT I HAVE DECIDED and TRIED ON MY OWN.
My battery life is 3 or 4 days. .. depending of use .
I think it depends of 'home screen ' . With watch styler, if my watch face is 'white' battery life can be 2 or 3 days. But with a standard watch face (black) battery life is 3 or 4 days...
If bluetooth is always turn on, the other battery's drain can only be screen... and it depends of the number of notifications you receive every days ! (And number you look at your watch daily )
Yes I agree with you on that I get 2 to 3 days of battery life heavy usage brightness at 4 and timeout at 15
Yes my Gear had pretty decent battery life, 2-3 days. Works out great just plug it in when I go to bed.
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Yes I agree with you on that I get 2 to 3 days of battery life heavy usage brightness at 4 and timeout at 15
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I have been using my gear on an S4 with android 4.2.2. Battery was usually about 50% at bedtime. I updated to the android 4.3 yesterday which gave me full capabilities of the Gear. Today after 8 hours of pretty heavy use (lots of email) I am at 90%. 4.3 does a much better job of handling BT connections, not just on the Gear but my other BT devices.
This is my 4th smartwatch (Sony MN800, Sony MN2SW, Pebble). The Sony MN2 was pretty decent, touchscreen/color but its battery life was terrible, had trouble making it through the whole day. Pebble had great battery life, constant on screen, but having to use buttons and no color was tough for me after having a touch color screen. Gear is definately heading in the right direction for me. Now that the battery life is can last 2+ days I am even more pleased with my decision to dive in. I turn the screen brightness to +2 which is extremely bright for indoor use.:good:
Yep, agreed.
My battery life is more than I can hope for with this thing.
I'm on day 2 and still have 61 percent battery life left.
I have screen brightness on 1 (which seems perfectly viewable for me) and time out for 7 seconds.
I can go 4 days easy with my current settings.
While I agree the battery life is a bit better than the reviews suggested, I'm surprised so many of you are getting 3-4 days worth. I use mine very lightly... it's stock, I don't have hardly any apps loaded on it, I'm currently just using it to occasionally see the time, and get txt/call/email notifications. I have the most battery efficient watch face (the black one with orange hands and only four markers), brightness on 4, timeout on 10s, using the latest gear manager on a stock Note 3. After 48hrs, I'm below 30% battery. The only excess usage I get is from the auto-wake... I do notice it coming on sometimes while I'm driving, or at the gym. Other than that, I really don't see how I could use it any less to get more life out of it (other than not using it at all). Once the software gets updated to make it a little more useful, I would expect battery life to get worse.
I'm not complaining, 2 days is acceptable to me, I just would have expected my usage patterns to put me at the long end of battery life relative to other users, rather than the short end.
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Yep, agreed.
My battery life is more than I can hope for with this thing.
I'm on day 2 and still have 61 percent battery life left.
I have screen brightness on 1 (which seems perfectly viewable for me) and time out for 7 seconds.
I can go 4 days easy with my current settings.
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I agree the reviewers had very bad results or bias, But at the same time I wish I knew how you guys were getting your results. Today was a light day, got maybe 20-30 texts and 5-10 emails. Didn't make any calls or respond to any texts with S-voice. I did just realize I had reset it recently so the brightness was at 4 with a 10 second time out. I normally run brightness at 2 and timeout at 7 to try to save the battery. I also use strong vibration and have the digital clock/weather watch face with a black background. I am at 82% after 12 hours, which again I don't think is bad. That would net me 2-3 days, but again that was what I consider very light usage. With heavy usage I doubt it would make it through the day.
I'm not complaining because I am ok with charging it every night, so long as it makes it through the day I am ok with it. I would just be happier if I knew I could get 2+ days with medium usage at least, including bright screen and all that jazz.
Also, side tracking I know, but what apps have you guys side loaded that you have found useful?
I have brightness at max and use it VERY heavily. I work as a mobile computer tech and all my calls are taken on it, I use svoice to make calls, I use svoice to reply to SMS and I'm always playing with it. The lowest battery at the end of a day (by which I mean 7:00am until midnight) was 38%.
I really cant fathom how it would be possible to deplete the battery in just 12 hours.
my use today :
I read 15 sms, 10 mail , take 3 pics and call with my father 15 min with gear speak phone (and the other 15 min with the phone.)
blue tooth connected permanently.
Number of auto wake : ?? A lot !!
Time Out : 15s
last complete charge : this night ( disconnect at 8 am.)
Now I read 1:28 am.
Battery level : 61%
it's all rights !!!

S6 Active battery life comparison

Picked up a new S6 Active which, while having a 40% larger battery, Samsung lists as only having a 10-20% better battery life (http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G890AZWAATT vs http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G920AZDAATT). Having a g920f (international s6) handy, and wanting to do a real-world comparison, I immediately disabled the AT&T bloat, and set up both devices exactly the same (except for the S6 having root) including all the same applications, 3 different Exchange accounts, and Tasker running the same profiles. I tried using the devices exactly the same - one on top of the other on a table, doing all the same tasks. Primarily checking email, surfing the web, and watching YouTube, here's what I found:
After 24 hours of use, and 4.5 hours of SOT, the S6 was down to 4% battery. The Active, on the other hand, was still at 24%. The estimates in the Battery settings shows the S6 having another hour remaining, while the Active was predicting another 5.5 hours of use. Both phones did well, but the Active does appear to be holding out only about 15% longer (just like the Samsung website predicted).
So where is the rest of that extra battery going? The internals are supposed to be the same. Same software. With the 40% improvement in battery capacity, I was expecting the Active to show similar improvements in battery life, but it did not. Maybe it has to do with the phone not being conditioned by having been through several charge cycles (keep in mind this was straight out of the box after first full charge). Or maybe the AT&T firmware has more crap running in the background (which we might be able to eventually disable once we have root).
Anyways, I'm not here to recommend one over the other as they both have their pros and cons, but merely to share my findings...
Unfortunately I don't have a S6 to compare my Active to. I am very happy with the Active battery performance so far. I'm coming up on 2 days on a single charge under normal use conditions with 40% battery remaining. I'm still on my initial first full charge of the battery as well. I'm sure GSMArena will have battery numbers up as well. For me, I held off getting the standard S6 hoping the Active had a larger and removable battery. At least it is bigger and I'm happy with my purchase.
Thats pretty good actually.. I got an att s6 and i can barely make it to 3 hours SOT thats with greenify and root! (maybe because you got the international s6 thats why the battery life is better-no att bloat)
Now I'm seriously thinking of exchanging my s6 for the active...
Im sure the active will get better with a few charging cycles. And ppl are reporting more than a day of battery life with ease so thats a pretty big difference
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I just picked up the active, switching from an iphone 6 plus, and love it so far. im at 50% after quite heavy usage for a good 7 hours.
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I just picked up the active, switching from an iphone 6 plus, and love it so far. im at 50% after quite heavy usage for a good 7 hours.
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That's pretty good! My S6 usually drops to 55-60% after 4 hours of podcasts and light web browsing. I don't mind though because I always charge the phone on my lunch break anyway. Though the longer battery life would be great if I am away from any power source. Hmmm, I'm starting to consider the Active.
Generally after a typical days use, my S6 would be around 20-30%. My active is around 50-60%.
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Generally after a typical days use, my S6 would be around 20-30%. My active is around 50-60%.
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That's a HUGE difference
Here is my second complete charge cycle since Friday. Did not screenshot the first one, but it was over a day. I've noticed it's learning the battery better. Takes about an hour and a half right now to recharge w/o booting up the phone.
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Here is my second complete charge cycle since Friday. Did not screenshot the first one, but it was over a day. I've noticed it's learning the battery better. Takes about an hour and a half right now to recharge w/o booting up the phone.
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What was your on screen time?
crap, did not catch that. Sorry :-\
Only 10-20% more with 1000mah extra is odd
Battery test...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...fe-test-shows-how-far-can-3500-mAh-go_id70492
It's way more than 10-20%. I've had them both and both set up exactly the same. I'd say it's at least 50% more battery life for me with the active.
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There's a guy on Android Central that got 10hr SOT; pretty amazing.:good:
Almost hit the two day mark today.
At 3 days 10 hours, with 24% left. I consider myself a "light user". Occasional phone calls, text messages, check facebook a few times a day, youtube here or there, etc. I have NFC and GPS off. Bluetooth always on and WiFi set to turn off (use most data) when not in use. Disabled all the ATT/Microsoft apps except I left Milk Audio enabled. Also changed some sync settings and only sync Google App data, Mail, and Contacts. Not running any battery management apps.
ETA: I just installed greenify to hibernate Facebook and Messenger.
That's amazing. Anything else you can think of, let us know. I have done most of that. A lot of my battery drainage seems to come from MightyText; but I use its services and I am not sure how to make it better. Getting two days battery life is pretty sweet though, so I am not complaining much.
I haven't played with the standard S6, but this is my battery on it's first charge. Disabled about 32 apps that I deemed bloatware.
LTE 100% of the time. No WiFi.
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I haven't played with the standard S6, but this is my battery on it's first charge. Disabled about 32 apps that I deemed bloatware.
LTE 100% of the time. No WiFi.
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Wow!

[Q] Replacement Battery?

Anyone know about replacing S6 Edge batteries? I feel like my battery dies too quick even debloated and maybe changing it would be a good idea? I can't find any good ones on Amazon.
It is not your battery. it is the phone. My battery average is 2 to 3 hours screen on a full charged. On a good day, like when I set the phone to 0 brightness instead of of auto, it last over 4 hours.
Needless to say, this is my last Samsung.
Check out some of the battery apps like gsam or betterbatterystats. Try to identify what is keeping wakelocks, etc. My battery can easily last 4 hr of screen on time. But others, when the something is keeping it awake, it'll only get around 3 tops. Not sure what version you're on, but there were bugs with the 'enhanced 4g' stuff turned on that were draining battery. Google search if you need more info. There is lots of good info out there.
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Anyone know about replacing S6 Edge batteries? I feel like my battery dies too quick even debloated and maybe changing it would be a good idea? I can't find any good ones on Amazon.
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I would send it to Samsung for the battery replacement. Battery is pretty difficult to replace on this phone without damaging it.
Hoping after the 6.0.1 update, SOT will improve. I'm getting between 3 to 4 hrs of SOT on autobrightnes with everything on - GPS, WiFi, data, bluetooth, NFC.
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It is not your battery. it is the phone. My battery average is 2 to 3 hours screen on a full charged. On a good day, like when I set the phone to 0 brightness instead of of auto, it last over 4 hours.
Needless to say, this is my last Samsung.
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S7 Edge will have 1000mAh more battery, 3600mAh in total.
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I've flashed this 6.01 ROM and the battery seems to be much better (the entire user experience is better all round). http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-sixperience-official-mm-6-0-1-port-t3307627

Poor Battery Life

I received my Watch 3 last week. So far I like the watch but it's battery life is horrid! My original Samsung Watch would run 4 to 5 days between charges. The Watch 3 gets, maybe 2.5 days between charges. Anyone else notice this drop in run time??
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I received my Watch 3 last week. So far I like the watch but it's battery life is horrid! My original Samsung Watch would run 4 to 5 days between charges. The Watch 3 gets, maybe 2.5 days between charges. Anyone else notice this drop in run time??
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Do you got the LTE version or wifi only?
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I'm not impressed by the battery myself so far compared to the GW1. I got the 45mm (bluetooth). Charged it last night. Wore it to bed, this morning it had already dropped 7% just sleeping. Now its 11am and the battery is at 76% and I haven't even been playing with the watch. App says it wil llast 1 day 18 hrs, but based off the usage already I don't believe that.
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I'm not impressed by the battery myself so far compared to the GW1. I got the 45mm (bluetooth). Charged it last night. Wore it to bed, this morning it had already dropped 7% just sleeping. Now its 11am and the battery is at 76% and I haven't even been playing with the watch. App says it wil llast 1 day 18 hrs, but based off the usage already I don't believe that.
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Is it tracking your heartbeat or sleep ?
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Well, there are more sensors and a smaller battery for starters.
But I think the default settings will be checking your heartbeat regularly, working out if you are...working out, and if you sleep wearing it the sensors will be working through the night. Go into the health settings (both phone and watch) and check what you have enabled. You might be surprised.
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The GW3 - 45mm has a smaller battery (340mAh) than the GW - 46mm (472mAh).
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Bluetooth / wifi version.
I have 45mm LTE version, but not activated and using it on wifi/bluetooth. I disable most of the notifications from my phone - I have the watch mainly to be a watch and for fitness/health. My average burn, with AOD, is between 3-4% an hour. Brightness set to 4 with auto low light brightness.
Just found the continuous monitoring (heart & stress) feature. I'll play around with that to see how it goes.
The bigger downside, especially if battery life is an issue for you, is this think takes 2.5 hours to charge fully. That is SLOW for a battery this size. So 30 minutes on the charger while you shower only gets you like 20%.
I've found that music has used 8% of battery, I don't even use the music app, I don't think it can be removed, so what can I do?
Haha... I was actually thinking the battery was much better than I expected! Mind you, I'm coming from Android Wear, so that might explain it.... previously had a Tag Connected Modular 45 and for the first week ( until the first update ) I'd get about 10 hours from a full charge
As has been said, smaller battery and more sensors. It's a pain ( especially if you want to use sleep tracking ) but I've taken to just topping it up whenever I'm sitting watching TV or whatever - so plenty of short bursts of charge rather than waiting for it to run down. A few Qi chargers dotted around the place helps.
I agonised over the decision to buy this over the Garmin Fenix 6 Pro for quite a while - I love the idea of a trans-reflective display on a watch and wish there were more of them, and the battery life is So much better. The fact is though there's no perfect option currently in the smartwatch arena, GW3 has best features and arguably the smoothesr experience but only adequate battery, awful Bixby, and lack of Google stuff like maps ( which I found really useful for walking around cities, Here WeGo is a poor substitute IMHO. ) Garmin have better battery life but not as nice to look at ( again IMHO ) and even worse ecosystem, Android Wear has the best ecosystem and assistant with many options to choose from, but generally rubbish battery life and in my experience laggy/glitchy/buggy software. Apple watch isn't really an option for Android users, though I dislike square watches generally anyway and dislike Apple almost as much :laugh:
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Haha... I was actually thinking the battery was much better than I expected! Mind you, I'm coming from Android Wear, so that might explain it.... previously had a Tag Connected Modular 45 and for the first week ( until the first update ) I'd get about 10 hours from a full charge
As has been said, smaller battery and more sensors. It's a pain ( especially if you want to use sleep tracking ) but I've taken to just topping it up whenever I'm sitting watching TV or whatever - so plenty of short bursts of charge rather than waiting for it to run down. A few Qi chargers dotted around the place helps.
I agonised over the decision to buy this over the Garmin Fenix 6 Pro for quite a while - I love the idea of a trans-reflective display on a watch and wish there were more of them, and the battery life is So much better. The fact is though there's no perfect option currently in the smartwatch arena, GW3 has best features and arguably the smoothesr experience but only adequate battery, awful Bixby, and lack of Google stuff like maps ( which I found really useful for walking around cities, Here WeGo is a poor substitute IMHO. ) Garmin have better battery life but not as nice to look at ( again IMHO ) and even worse ecosystem, Android Wear has the best ecosystem and assistant with many options to choose from, but generally rubbish battery life and in my experience laggy/glitchy/buggy software. Apple watch isn't really an option for Android users, though I dislike square watches generally anyway and dislike Apple almost as much :laugh:
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There are a lot of dilemmas in there mate! But I think what you chose in the end was the right choice. Tizen is a very reliable and optimised O/S and whilst there aren't billions of apps for it, who really cares? The one's you will use the most are either baked in or available 3rd party, and yep, Bixby is rubbish, I want to love it but I gave up. I do agree the Apple watch is an ugly square thing that looks like a fitness band, everyone wearing them so no individuality, the GW3 is classy and watch like! The battery isn't really that bad, will easily get you through a day or two and most of us charge overnight or a quick top up in the morning if sleep monitoring.
Enjoy!!
With blanaced settings you can easily get 2+ days of battery and more if you set the heart rate monitor to manual because heart rate will be used automatically during work out so I dont see a benefit of having it all the time or every 10 mins to measure my heart unless you have health issues and you need to track it, bixby is only useful to set a reminder, alarm or call someone (generally it wont recognize names properly so I use 'wife' for example instead of the name to avoid this issue) 'Hi bixby call wife' works good 'Hi bixby text wife' works fine too, Here wego i find it works better if you have the here we go phone app installed and everything you do from the phone it syncs back to the watch app.
compared to my active 2 watch the battery seems about the same for how i use it and sensors i have active. I get almost 2 days . when i'm on a normal routine i put my watch on the charger when i wake up to shower and get ready and ive never really noticed issues with not having the watch dead the next day and if i forgot to take it off i would still have battery for the day. im sure millage will vary depending on what your doing but still would expect a full day battery.
My expectations must be a lot lower , makes me wonder what amount of time are most expecting to get from a smart watch . I always thought getting about two days was great and as long as i got a full day into the next i was happy lol just my two cents
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...so I dont see a benefit of having it all the time or every 10 mins to measure my heart unless you have health issues and you need to track it..
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It's definitely helpful in sleep tracking to estimate the various stages of sleep. Agree constant monitoring is overkill (except in a workout), but every 10 minutes can be useful for tracking training progress and recovery.
From what I can tell, every 10 minutes doesn't drain battery much. I'm getting @ 3% drain per hour with that, and about half is my display.
I tend to think big battery drains (which I disable) are Bixby always listening, and any "gesture to wake" features. Haven't analyzed it, but my suspicion is "gesture to wake" uses more battery than AOD.
I use the watch for 5 days (SM-R845F) ...
-10% during 1 hour of use.
Off: WIFI, Buetooth, GPS
ON: 4G
No syncing.
I only use it as a watch!
What could be the problem? Is the clock bad?
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I set mine to "GoodNight" and it still tracks heart rate and sleep. Amazingly on this setting the battery usage is minimal (single digits) so there plenty of juice left in the am.
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There are a lot of dilemmas in there mate! But I think what you chose in the end was the right choice. Tizen is a very reliable and optimised O/S and whilst there aren't billions of apps for it, who really cares? The one's you will use the most are either baked in or available 3rd party, and yep, Bixby is rubbish, I want to love it but I gave up. I do agree the Apple watch is an ugly square thing that looks like a fitness band, everyone wearing them so no individuality, the GW3 is classy and watch like! The battery isn't really that bad, will easily get you through a day or two and most of us charge overnight or a quick top up in the morning if sleep monitoring.
Enjoy!!
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I disabled Bixby on my Note 9 (which was not easy) and even harder to re-enable as at first I thought the disablement on the phone was preventing it from running on the watch. but I am happy now that i got Google Assistant to also work on my watch (except for alarms and reminders (for which you still need Bixby)
I think the battery life is poor especially if used actively during a run or cycling.
Batt life is not the best...

Question Battery life not lasting a day....

So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
Try disabling all power management.
In Developer options>standby apps all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is running.
Google Play Services, Backup Transport and Framework are known hogs.
Disable all the bloatware, turn off auto sync for gmail, turn off all feedback.
You'll need to sort it out and optimize it. Took me months to get my 10+ sorted out. Fortunately it's running on Pie so I had more diagnostic options.
Returning is a thought as 5G may have been poorly implemented and another source of power drain. I think everything after the 10+ 4G both hardware and OS are train wrecks... I see very little incentive to "upgrade".
Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
daribeiro said:
So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
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It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
Sharpshooterrr said:
Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
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Sorry about that ahaha changed it now
nightoo said:
It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
Geekser said:
I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
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Reloads -never- find the root cause and many times even if the problem is "fixed" it eventually returns.
Exceptions; old loads, software induced bootloops, viruses, and major firmware updates.
Expect issues with the 5G devices from poor hardware implementation. No fix for this.
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
leoking3 said:
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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How much with screen off is it sucking down?
If more than 1% @ hr with AOD on it's probably Google and cloud crap running in the background.
You can optimize it to improve performance.
It's easier to do this with Pie though; Q and 11 take away critical tools and use scoped storage which wastes cpu cycles.
Get Karma Firewall and a package disabler like this one;
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Regardless of the model or OS version most carrier phones will need to be optimized for good battery life and optimum performance.
My 10+ was a hot running bandwidth hungry hog until I toned it down. Today it's hard to believe it's that same machine.
You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
daribeiro said:
Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
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Well, i believe what you are saying about battery life, but what i have seen so far is promising, i mean when S21 Ultra with Exynos 2100 beats iphone 11 Pro Max and 12 Pro Max, i guess that's a good sign!! But for sure, we use our phones in different way than each others because maybe you use it with 4G/5G enabled almost all the time while these tests are just using Wifi and maybe without any SIM card which means the battery consumption will be minimum at this part.
I have S20 Ultra with Snapdragon 865, i get like an average of 6 hours SoT and if S21 Ultra Exynos gives me the same SoT, i'll be happy!!
SOT is not everything...we travel, we move, you cant accept a phone that gives you 12 hours of standby in total. This is bs and useless, you cant rely on such a phone.
leoking3 said:
You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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My AT&T 10+ was not real bad (or good) the first few days. After enabling power management it went to hell.
Eventually I disabled all power management and one by one tracked down the hogs.
Because of dependencies simply disabling and/or turning off say Google Transport and Google Framework isn't enough, firewall blocking Google Play Services* then clearing data on all 3 periodically finally stopped this hog dead in its tracks. These will run in the background when the screen is off stealing power for nothing. Sometimes the Google apks are misreported as other Google apks presumably because of the interlinking dependencies.
Try using Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker.
Developer options>running apks/cache can also yield clues. With an unrooted phone there's some serious game playing to track this garbage down.
Anything app that's cloud or carrier is bad... lol.
Disable all feedback and syncing except for texting; manually sync gmail.
*needs to be unblocked occasionally for gmail to download and for Playstore (another apk you should disable/firewall block when not using).
Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
mankvl said:
Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
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That's a thought that's worth a try.
From what I've read even disabling 5G doesn't completely stop it's parasitic battery drain.
Maybe the latest generation chipsets are better but early 5G was poorly implemented giving a marginal speed increase on most phones of 20% when available.
Is this on the snapdragon or exynos variant?
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I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
My 10+ draws roughly 1%@hr* with AOD on.
SOT draw varies between 9-12%@hr
Roughly 10%@hr watching vids on Samsung internet with surfing on Brave being the highest usage.
I consider it fairly optimized at this point.
*4300 mAh battery with little degradation.
No 5G running on Pie so not scoped storage either.
Figures are from a charge range of between roughly 40-65% as I rarely charged beyond 70% or discharge deeper than 30%.
Actual usage be more if I had started at 100% because of the power density difference through the power range ie 1% at 20 is far less watts than 1% at 100%.
A/V=watts. Less voltage means less overall mAh per % plus the additional losses due to voltage stepup power conversionas you dip towards 30% The closer to 100%, the higher the voltage with more available mAhs per battery% as well as less stepup voltage power converter losses.
A phone's wattage and V+'are constant so as the battery voltage decreases it draws more current ie mAhs.
Collin80 said:
So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
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You are also right, but , when you used something that does both keeping you up to date, and having a brilliant battery life, then it becomes disappointing when you change it for one that doesnt.

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