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I think the specs for the OnePlus Three for the price are AMAZING and unbelievable, it's almost $150 less than the Nexus 6P, with 2016 flagship hardware, and the leaked pictures show it to be a very high quality crafted device. The new Three looks like a larger HTC 10, which is fine by me, as the 10 is a great smartphone.
But...
My biggest gripes with OPO are the slow Android updates. I recall Lollipop taking for god damn ever to officially make it out for the original One, like 6 months, or you could have installed the alpha CM11 at the time, which was pretty buggy until the bugs were worked out, obviously, but the official OnePlus One Lollipop OS update took a very long time.
This OnePlus Three will be lucky to see Android N within 90 days after the Nexus phones get it first in October, or you can install the alpha CM14 sooner on it, and live through all the kinks and bugs, that will have, while waiting for OPO to release N.
I thought one of the big features on these OPO phones being AOSP based, would have been super fast Android updates, not Nexus fast updates obviously, but at least faster than the skinned versions of Android like HTC, LG, Samsung, etc... but that hasn't been the case. I thought OnePlus would have the latest version of Android on them within like 30 days or so after Nexus phones, in reality they are worse than Samsung.
Bottom line; Great flagship hardware for a budget price. Beautiful design.
But...software is really amateur for an official professional phone release. I'd rather Cyanogen be back on board creating a stable pro CM13S for this phone. Oxygen OS still seems like some weekend development project.
OnePlus came late with their Android6.0 update for the OP2, so I share your concerns.
But the custom development for the OP3 will be great, so many ROMS there before the official updates.
And many other brands are also slow with updates, or even slower. (not an excuse for OnePlus )
I will go for the OP3 because:
to go for a device with guaranteed faster updates you limit your device choice, you will most likely pay a lot more, and the specs won't be much better, and the XDA development will most likely be worse.
So (expecting) slow updates is a legit disadvantage, but it doesn't win from the advantages in my opinion.
Good points thanks
Now let's see some real hands on reviews. How good is the AMOLED screen being in 1080p ? Is the build quality as high and great like HTC 10 ? Speaker sounds ? Feel in hand ?
I know hardware wise it's gonna be a champ.
I guess you did not see the news?
http://www.xda-developers.com/oxygenos-open-sourced-ahead-of-oneplus-3-launch/
Will that news get us Android N much faster ? I wanna see the OnePlus Three get Android N like 30 days after the Nexus phones, then i impressed.
I just got the one plus two yesterday, found out about the 3 two days after I ordered, ugh. No worries though, I believe it will be released by the 14th and that is well within my return period!
I can't even explain how cool just the box it comes in is! This is quality I would pay s7 prices for, hands down. I keep looking around for cops every time I pick up the phone, feels like I stole it! But seriously, the OTA's don't bother me a bit, they'll get here when they get here! I feel like the development here on xda will be enough to tide someone over until we get a proper image. I feel like this OP3 is going to be the banger for one plus all together.
The 1080p question the OP had, I honestly feel like that's just a marketing ploy by the big boys, can the naked eye really tell on a phone, even this size? For me personally, I don't notice anything! I honestly think you'll be able to look past both of those once you feel the box...lol!
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while we all are at xda, i don't really care about update from OP. You bet - the very first custom ROM will be available in weeks from June 14th and android N will be on OP# in days.
As someone who has paid top dollar for Samsung flagship phones, all I can say is that updates are slow here, too - maybe even slower than Oneplus .
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obviously it will be slower getting ota's compared to nexus devices. but the op3 should have a good dev community so i wouldn't worry.
how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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We don't but as oos is open source and i think oneplus won't make the mistake twice, as the community will have a look, how they handle stuff
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We don't but as oos is open source and i think oneplus won't make the mistake twice, as the community will have a look, how they handle stuff
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Well, OOS isn't so "open-source". They forked CAF code and they put it on github.
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how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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Maybe this forums.oneplus.net/threads/rom-6-0-1-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13.450156 answers your question.
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obviously it will be slower getting ota's compared to nexus devices. but the op3 should have a good dev community so i wouldn't worry.
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I don't care about the development community for any device. I judge a phone by the speed of its official updates.
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I don't care about the development community for any device. I judge a phone by the speed of its official updates.
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It will get N just not as fast as nexus but probably faster than samsung or lg.
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It will get N just not as fast as nexus but probably faster than samsung or lg.
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I wouldn't count on that. The oneplus team is very small and it took them longer than lg and Samsung to release marshmallow.
I'm considering replacing my Nexus 5 with OP3. Do they provide monthly security updates like google?
mykimouse said:
There's a Telegram Super Group where Devs/Modders/Testers/Users can join and expect quick replies and updates.
Lets join it https://telegram.me/OnePlus_3
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Seriously considering getting one of these, just trying to justify the amount of money I need to spend to obtain one, at that point I will join the group.
First OTA update for the OP3
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First OTA update for the OP3
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Can you send me the boot.img from your device? I will remove verity checks and I am not sure if encryption is on by default, I can also remove that.
Just going to leave this here.
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-3-officially-discontinued-us-europe-729580/
If this is indeed true how long will OnePlus continue to support and develop for a device they no longer sell?
And I really hope this is not true.
They already confirmed that both phones will be on the same schedule regarding updates.
Yup, here's the article:
http://www.xda-developers.com/exclu...at-it-means-for-the-future-of-your-oneplus-3/
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derdjango said:
They already confirmed that both phones will be on the same schedule regarding updates.
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Time will tell on this one.
It will be very interesting to see what path OP take now, they are sending out very mixed messages about the OP3 and this is not good at all.
I don't care if I cannot buy the phone anymore as long as they support it and develop for it as if it's STILL their flagship phone.
It's OnePlus don't expect any miracles, I love the device but so many draw backs within the company, software etc... makes me look past the pricing and should just stay with Pixel no compromises, OTA + Source on time no bs, My first and last OP device
Well considering the two devices are really similar and i don't think the development on s820/s821 is that different, the support will not die. OP knows OP3 is a successful phone and abandoning it within few months will mean they have lost valuable customers. OP 3T is a ****ty move from them, no doubt, and they have lost me as a customer for sure.
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Time will tell on this one.
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Coming from a developer (you make the no-root CM version, right?) does that mean you don't think community development will continue as is has before?
Gwiel said:
Coming from a developer (you make the no-root CM version, right?) does that mean you don't think community development will continue as is has before?
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It will continue but it still needs OP to release the source code in a timely fashion, to update the blobs for the hardware to better support the camera, graphics, cpu and my concerns are despite what they say support will dry up it's just a matter of when.
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Well considering the two devices are really similar and i don't think the development on s820/s821 is that different, the support will not die. OP knows OP3 is a successful phone and abandoning it within few months will mean they have lost valuable customers. OP 3T is a ****ty move from them, no doubt, and they have lost me as a customer for sure.
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They are different enough to annoy some very well known dev's such as flar2 who develops elementalx and boeffla who develops kernels also for cm13/14/oos.
If the dev's say they will no longer purchase a oneplus then that's 2 or 3 or even more who will leave for pixel or other devices.
It's the first time for me, a manufacturer is reasoning an upgrade with high demand and getting parts faster to produce more devices... Especially as they were saying that the display was the troublemaker... Not the SoC, not the battery and not the front camera...
Dont think so, the oneplus 3 gets Support the whole Street.
Question is only what the Developers will do, will they leave for the op3t or will they stay. Think they could stay and Release there Kernels for the op3t also. Should be not so much difference or?
Can we cry right now?
Ye only if you don't have op3 yet
Devs here are to good to cry man
i dont see any point to cry. the support of every device ends somewhen, this isnt anything new right?
and as its said that updates for OP3 come along with updates for OP3T, the release of the OP3T basically changed nothing.
you can also say "RIP Phone X" as soon as its released because you know "Phone X 2" will come soon or later and the company will focus more on that new one.
so sorry but the title of this thread "[RIP] OnePlus 3" is nothing more than panicmongering without any base.
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i dont see any point to cry. the support of every device ends somewhen, this isnt anything new right?
and as its said that updates for OP3 come along with updates for OP3T, the release of the OP3T basically changed nothing.
you can also say "RIP Phone X" as soon as its released because you know "Phone X 2" will come soon or later and the company will focus more on that new one.
so sorry but the title of this thread "[RIP] OnePlus 3" is nothing more than panicmongering without any base.
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Not when the device is replaced after 4 months... Plus they haven't been sticking to their software update timeline still waiting for last months Stable OTA (I guess working on official N) and mostly source code is delayed already which is angering devs that want to work on this device meaning even more delays now they working on the 3T. Really ****ty move by 1+..
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Not when the device is replaced after 4 months... Plus they haven't been sticking to their software update timeline still waiting for last months Stable OTA (I guess working on official N) and mostly source code is delayed already which is angering devs that want to work on this device meaning even more delays now they working on the 3T. Really ****ty move by 1+..
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If it's so than i never buying op phone ever again
I can't believe the butthurt going on.
I've had android phones for long enough now, including a few Chinese ones too. Buying any phone other than a Nexus/Pixel is a gamble when it comes to updates.
Buy a phone for how it is NOW, as it is now the OP3 works great. It's getting android N too. If they ended it with just android N I'm classing it as a win! Anything after that is a bonus.
And I can't wait for all the crying when they release the OP4 and people are saying "My OP3T is obsolete after only 5 months" and "Am I getting a refund I've been robbed because you released a new phone without telling me".
I've owned phones from HTC, Samsung, Motorola, Huawei, ZTE and more than I can remember.
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They are different enough to annoy some very well known dev's such as flar2 who develops elementalx and boeffla who develops kernels also for cm13/14/oos.
If the dev's say they will no longer purchase a oneplus then that's 2 or 3 or even more who will leave for pixel or other devices.
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Boeffla has already confirmed he is not buying 3T. No idea about flar2. I personally wanted to wait for a nexus but the Pixel prices just ruined my dream of owning a Nexus phone, lol.
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Boeffla has already confirmed he is not buying 3T. No idea about flar2. I personally wanted to wait for a nexus but the Pixel prices just ruined my dream of owning a Nexus phone, lol.
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I was hoping they would do a scheme like apple early upgrade where you pay for it over 11 months then get a new phone on the 12th but hey no dice, shame really as I would never part with that much money for a phone if I had to buy it out right.
Why are we not getting any beta updates?
Beta for 3T will come after final release for 3.
Simply because there are more oneplus 3's in customers hands than 3T.....But I think they could unify now with beta 10, the timeframe is off for Nougat before end of month, with Beta 10 just dropped.
But patience is a great thing.....I'm not to fussed as I like Xposed for a few things (not currently available on Nougat) So they can take as long as they need.....
Brought to you by my Resurrected Powered 3T
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Beta for 3T will come after final release for 3.
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Lol, when they said all updates will be together for both devices I thought it was a consolation for 3 owners. Turns out we are the ones getting screwed!
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Why are we not getting any beta updates?
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Not sure why people is so hyped for new updates and stuff.from what i've seen on internet,there are not too many changes on android 7 than we have now on 6, except the dpi which for me seems to be a nice thing to have,but not that important. you guys need to learn how to enjoy your beautiful phone,without being hyped for the updates. If they release early, it will be full of bugs and then you will curse them.better wait 1-2 or 3 months more and fix all those issues,instead of receiving a faulty update which will ruin my beautiful 3t experience.
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Not sure why people is so hyped for new updates and stuff.from what i've seen on internet,there are not too many changes on android 7 than we have now on 6, except the dpi which for me seems to be a nice thing to have,but not that important. you guys need to learn how to enjoy your beautiful phone,without being hyped for the updates. If they release early, it will be full of bugs and then you will curse them.better wait 1-2 or 3 months more and fix all those issues,instead of receiving a faulty update which will ruin my beautiful 3t experience.
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Oh come on!!
They themselves ask us to never settle.
I basically want a very stable nougat. I really like this new OS. Besides, Google assistant is also good to have.
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Lol, when they said all updates will be together for both devices I thought it was a consolation for 3 owners. Turns out we are the ones getting screwed!
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Yes, but they also said, that beta for 3T will start after stable release for 3.
According to David Y on OnePlus Official forums:
First, my answer to the question on the thread title:
Yes. OnePlus 3/3T will get Android O. OOS team are working on it, even new community app (not public yet) just finished the compatibility work for Android O last week.
Here are some update I'd like to share with you guys:
Currently the OOS team are focusing on the OBT program and Android O for OP3/3T, also stable updates for OP5. Next stable update for OP3/3T was planned, will be a minor update updated Android security patch level to August.
I will keep you all in the loop once I got some latest updates.
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https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/will-op3-and-3t-get-android-o.498382/page-8#post-16580894
Ask op2 owners about promises like this. Will see.
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Ask op2 owners about promises like this. Will see.
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Well, unlike the OP2, the OnePlus 3 was much more successful, and had no hardware issues. Plus, due to the similarities in hardware (and consequently software) between the OnePlus 3 and the 3T, they can essentially provide support for 2 devices at the cost and effort of one. If they, for instance, decide to go back on their promise for some reason, they would be offending the owners of 2 devices at the same time. As explained earlier, there would be no logical reason in updating just the 3T and not the 3. Now the only way forward for OnePlus would be to deliver on the standard 18 month support promise. It WOULD however, be a miracle if OnePlus goes one step further and give us the P update too, whenever it comes out. Unlikely, but a man can dream...
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Ask op2 owners about promises like this. Will see.
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the 1st time was a promise , this time is an official timeline, he stated what the development team is working on already , not what they intend to...so,
i get it was bad not to provide the OP2 with the N update, but the circumstances for the 3/T is different.
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Well, unlike the OP2, the OnePlus 3 was much more successful, and had no hardware issues. Plus, due to the similarities in hardware (and consequently software) between the OnePlus 3 and the 3T, they can essentially provide support for 2 devices at the cost and effort of one. If they, for instance, decide to go back on their promise for some reason, they would be offending the owners of 2 devices at the same time. As explained earlier, there would be no logical reason in updating just the 3T and not the 3. Now the only way forward for OnePlus would be to deliver on the standard 18 month support promise. It WOULD however, be a miracle if OnePlus goes one step further and give us the P update too, whenever it comes out. Unlikely, but a man can dream...
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Totally agree drakonizer. :highfive:
Lets hope Android O isn't a mess, (like Lollipop was,) and that the final OS update for our devices is stable with good battery life. For the next year after it can be left untouched with just the security patch updated.
I also don't expect OP to update us to Android P.
If they do a blog like this I would love this! I do rather have Oneplus being honest to us with what they are planning and working on!
It's not like they having so many devices to update, so i don't see any problem they support 3/T further, to P maybe? why jack up the ram to 6 Gb and says it's for "future proofing" if the software alone isn't supported for long. this device is more than capable handling O and so on
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/android-p-is-coming-to-the-oneplus-3-and-3t.879545/
Its official. Android P is coming to Oneplus 3/3T
My god !
Please keep all news/discussion related to OxygenOS 6.0 in this thread only. Any new thread opened regarding ETA/etc will be closed.
Well congo to all Oneplus 3 and 3T users...U all will get Android P update ...Oneplus is saying that They will skip the android 8.1.0 .But will try to Enhance the user Experience.
Awesome news, but I'll keep my doubts unless they actually push it in the betas.
I had been waiting for 8.1 from ages now, and there's no timeline for P, maybe it'll lauch by the end of the year, maybe the end of next year?
The Android P update will be available on the OnePlus 6, OnePlus 5/T and OnePlus 3/3T, in this order.
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Well i am sure they are more serious about their promises and update schedule now but it still didn't make sense that they had all the time to optimize and release 8.1 for OP5/5T but when it came to OP3/3T they want to utilize resources on P instead. Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Pardon me i just wonder, are you aware that you are in this place?
There are plently of it..
And if you are the person who looking for stock, is it strange that you are lurking in here?
Pardon me agan, my mind just blown reading your post...
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Well i am sure they are more serious about their promises and update schedule now but it still didn't make sense that they had all the time to optimize and release 8.1 for OP5/5T but when it came to OP3/3T they want to utilize resources on P instead. Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Well, i prefer getting 9 and not 8.1 over getting 8.1 and not 9.
150208 said:
Pardon me i just wonder, are you aware that you are in this place?
There are plently of it..
And if you are the person who looking for stock, is it strange that you are lurking in here?
Pardon me agan, my mind just blown reading your post...
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Some of us like the stability and some other factors in OOS and won't switch to custom OS (no matter how much they claim to be bug-free or stable experience but there is always something broken), unless OOS is declared EOL by OnePlus.
I am mostly lurking here for custom kernels as the custom kernels offered here are much more battery friendly and smoother compared to stock one WITHOUT breaking any functionality.
That's the kind of place XDA is, no matter how small custom Android mod/solution you are looking for your device, you will always find something relevant to your taste and usability.
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Well, i prefer getting 9 and not 8.1 over getting 8.1 and not 9.
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Same here! It's exciting but i am just concerned about the wait and possible timeline before that happens. P isn't even released yet, and once it's released the OP3/3T is the last device to receive it from OnePlus. So i am assuming we might not see a P update for 5-6 months. So, i was wondering if they could have worked on 8.1 for 3/3T when they were working with the code for 5/5T.
But at least now we all know we will eventually receive P and we are not abandoned. Kudos to OnePlus to support OP3 with 3 major Android version updated 6>7>8>9.
this is how all manufacturers must support the development of phones
Hope they'll include Treble support as well
All credit to One Plus if they deliver.
A friend of mine bought a Samsung S7 Edge at the same time I bought my OP3. He was smiling initially due to the better screen and camera etc. As time has past, he's only just got Oreo and is suffering from slowing down and awful battery life. My OP3 feels as fast as on day 1 and has only slight battery degradation.
With every day, my smile gets wider. :victory:
This is exactly what I want from a phone when I buy one, long term OS support. Well done Oneplus, my next phone will be also Oneplus.
This is exactly why I made the OP6 purchase. OnePlus has been very good to it's fan base. I know they fell short on a few promises prior to the OP3 however they are most certainly making up for it. I purchased my OP6 in good faith because my OP3 had ***55 UPDATES*** (including betas) and now Android P is coming. I know my 4 year old isn't going to care about the update and isn't going to like daddy taking her phone, wiping it and playing on it for a few days.... But I seriously cannot wait for the OP6 to get Android P and I'm going to be just as excited when it drops for the OP3.
I'm not bragging that I have a OP6, I just want to share my excitement with everyone about Android P on the OP3. I know not everyone has the luxury of buying a new device and I'm happy for everyone who gets to share the Android P experience. I have had a ton of different devices in the past, most with little to no updates including Samsung (no crapple). Hopefully OnePlus will force other manufacturers to follow suit so even those who aren't fans of OnePlus devices can get a better update experience.