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Picture and video quality

Omg
I'm trying to capture myself as accurately as possible
When I'm taking pictures with either camera or recording video the picture and video playback looks right.
When I go to transfer them to my computer the quality doesn't look the same as when I took the picture, my skin tone is off, primally, quality etc just looks not as good is it losing quality or something. ? I can be in my vanity mirror, take a picture and see two different people
Makes me self conscious when I'm looking back at them, even though I know it's not an accurate depiction of me but it deters me from wanting to use this camera because when I'm viewing the picture on the device it's much different on computer
This is dysfunctional

Maybe your pc needs an upgrade to the graphics card. 4k screen for it and some software bumps and you will probably see what u see on phone
BAD ASS NOTE 4

The note is 2k, my computer is HD. I only record in 1920x1080, and the camera's are usually on the highest megapixel setting. I just wish the replication was more accurate.

bipoler said:
The note is 2k, my computer is HD. I only record in 1920x1080, and the camera's are usually on the highest megapixel setting. I just wish the replication was more accurate.
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It be to hard to say what it what. You can have hd that is 720 or hd that is 1080. Both hd but night and day difference. Not really sure what you be looking for. I take pic it looks just as good on phone or pc.
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Maybe I'll just get a real camera that can take better indoor photos

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Maybe I'll just get a real camera that can take better indoor photos
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I hope we are not talking about selfies, lol.
But yes, I will suggest you buy an actual camera if you are trying to go with all that real world qualities and what not.
You can also also buy Camera FV-5 from the playstore, fractions of a real camera and see what that can do for you. It is the most realistic camera shots I have seen out there You can also do a lot of customizations with it that you can with actual cameras...I'm not talking about samsung gimmicks or the many gimmics out there such as blurr and what ever else is out there.
P.S Procamera is also good.
P.P.S...sure its not your lighting? My note 4 camera depict me quite well -cheeky smiles-
Let me know how it goes for you!

mgbotoe said:
I hope we are not talking about selfies, lol.
But yes, I will suggest you buy an actual camera if you are trying to go with all that real world qualities and what not.
You can also also buy Camera FV-5 from the playstore, fractions of a real camera and see what that can do for you. It is the most realistic camera shots I have seen out there You can also do a lot of customizations with it that you can with actual cameras...I'm not talking about samsung gimmicks or the many gimmics out there such as blurr and what ever else is out there.
P.S Procamera is also good.
P.P.S...sure its not your lighting? My note 4 camera depict me quite well -cheeky smiles-
Let me know how it goes for you!
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Lol no I'm not a fan of selfies and bathroom mirrors I use my tripod 85% of the time. I want to be satisfied with the picture and just upload it and not have to tinker with the photo because it just doesn't look right. But you have a point some lighting it's great others it's just like who the hell is that Lol. That's why I just record videos instead, never really been photogenic but in person I get many compliments it's so funny up me Lol but I rather in real life where it counts then social media

Haha, definitely ...beside, we are our own worst critics!
Happy Holidays!

Better to take photos in 40 or 10mpx?

Sorry if someone already explained but I've not found an answer.
I would like to understand when is better to take pictures with 40mpx sensor and when is better with 10 mpx option.
Sorry but this huawei is new for me and I would like to understand how to make the best photos
Thank you for help

if the situation permits, then 40mp. the worse the conditions, the more compromises.

As far as I can tell 40mp is useful in Pro mode and i have posted the difference it makes on my insta. HDR and night mode revert to 10mp. You can have a look if you search my feed tag justaninstaguy there is a a few pics. I can't upload on the XDA app it keeps coming up with bad request.

you can post your Photos on Flickr with hashtag #huaweip20pro > https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/huaweip20pro

starbase64 said:
if the situation permits, then 40mp. the worse the conditions, the more compromises.
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Which are the conditions for the 40 mpx?

Socialnotworking said:
As far as I can tell 40mp is useful in Pro mode and i have posted the difference it makes on my insta. HDR and night mode revert to 10mp. You can have a look if you search my feed tag justaninstaguy there is a a few pics. I can't upload on the XDA app it keeps coming up with bad request.
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Thank you for your answer.
At the moment the photo I've taken are better in 10mpx. Anyway I can't see much difference with the s9 plus, to be honest many pics are better in s9 plus

marko68 said:
Thank you for your answer.
At the moment the photo I've taken are better in 10mpx. Anyway I can't see much difference with the s9 plus, to be honest many pics are better in s9 plus
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Quite possibly, I think the hardware in the P20 Pro is right up there but they just don't have the development refinement of Samsung or perhaps Google as yet. It was the same on the Mate 10 Pro, on paper it was perfect but niggles made it frustrating. That's the attraction with Apple, it may not be good value or offer but 99% of users can experience 99% of the capability of the phone whereas with the P20 Pro and Mate 10 Pro you really have to try hard to get the best out of it right now.

marko68 said:
Which are the conditions for the 40 mpx?
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a sunny day or tripod in low light

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Quite possibly, I think the hardware in the P20 Pro is right up there but they just don't have the development refinement of Samsung or perhaps Google as yet. It was the same on the Mate 10 Pro, on paper it was perfect but niggles made it frustrating. That's the attraction with Apple, it may not be good value or offer but 99% of users can experience 99% of the capability of the phone whereas with the P20 Pro and Mate 10 Pro you really have to try hard to get the best out of it right now.
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I agree

after hundreds of shots...I prefer 10mpx. Details, sharpness , lights, everything is better
40mpx sensor is useful only for particular situations and to take compensated photos (night mode, ecc but this automatically happens)

40mp by far in daylight. In low light 10mp.
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This is a good explanation I found on another site "Now, you don't actually want to take 40MP pictures. Tap that image size in the settings menu and you won't get access to the other lenses. Instead, you want to leave it on the 10MP setting. This doesn't retire the 40MP lens. Here, it will oversample the picture and make it the best it can be when it's squeezed down to the lower, 10MP resolution. It also lends a hand when zooming beyond 3x. The 8MP camera takes great detailed images at that range, but bump it up to 5x and hybrid zoom will mix in the feed from the 40MP sensor to help improve overall clarity."

At least at daylight, taking 40MP and resized to 10MP, the result is much better than taking 10MP directly.
The main problem of 10MP is it's over-sharpen, 40MP resized to 10MP reduced the problem although still some.

marko68 said:
Sorry if someone already explained but I've not found an answer.
I would like to understand when is better to take pictures with 40mpx sensor and when is better with 10 mpx option.
Sorry but this huawei is new for me and I would like to understand how to make the best photos
Thank you for help
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If you need to change zoom then 10 is the way as you can't with 40..
If you're stationary and perhaps taking a wide angle image like a landscape or a city or sky or a large group of people, something you need detail for them 40 is the way.

Disappointed in the camera

I did some comparative shots with one of my work colleagues. He has a Samsung Galaxy S9+. We took the same photos in the same conditions and all his photos were sharper, more detailed and with less noise. Even low light shots where I had night mode enabled, his still took better pictures and he doesn't even have night mode.
Pretty disappointing.

upload the samples, let us judge it too

I've come from the S9+ and the Mate 20 Pro is better

Biggenz said:
I did some comparative shots with one of my work colleagues. He has a Samsung Galaxy S9+. We took the same photos in the same conditions and all his photos were sharper, more detailed and with less noise. Even low light shots where I had night mode enabled, his still took better pictures and he doesn't even have night mode.
Pretty disappointing.
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Hmm.... I don't have so but I have s8 to compare.. Mp20 takes way better pictures in any situations.. Please post the samples you are comparing.. Maybe it's just the Samsung screen is better than our Mp20.

I'm also coming from the S9+ and the shots on the Mate 20 Pro are consistently better, with more details.
What I noticed, though, is that OIS on the S9+ seems to be superior to the stabilization on the M20Pro - specifically in low light situations. But we are talking about subtle nuances here ....

I think camera is superb

My mate 20 pro camera is way better at night than my note 9 ugly camera

You got defective unit, the only camera that beats mate at times, is the Pixel.

Derpling said:
You got defective unit, the only camera that beats mate at times, is the Pixel.
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ok, I have this problem too!
Bought a mate 20 pro yesterday and today I was comparing the pictures with the S9 and the Mate and all of them are way better with more detail in the S9.
I'm in panic now!
i will post the comparative pictures.
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Left one is from a Galaxy S9 and the right one is the Mate.

sousa_2005 said:
ok, I have this problem too!
Bought a mate 20 pro yesterday and today I was comparing the pictures with the S9 and the Mate and all of them are way better with more detail in the S9.
I'm in panic now!
i will post the comparative pictures.
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Left one is from a Galaxy S9 and the right one is the Mate.
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The photo you took is totally different composition, the monitor LED light might effect the result also. Should take a photo with same composition.

another ones
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don't know why the S9 image stays always upside down after uploading..

pogi.paul0119 said:
Hmm.... I don't have so but I have s8 to compare.. Mp20 takes way better pictures in any situations.. Please post the samples you are comparing.. Maybe it's just the Samsung screen is better than our Mp20.
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Do you think the m20p is a good upgrade from the s8/s8+ especially including the free pre order gifts?

anyone know if this phone has diferent camera sensores like samsung (Sony and samsung sensor)?
I can't believe that my S9 with only one camera take way BETTER shots than the Mate 20 pro.
Too much disappointed with this!
Don't know if I'm doing anything wrong...
I bought this because I was tired of the Samsung ui and the slow (NO) updates... but payed a lot more for this phone and comparing the pictures.. 90% of them are worst than the S9.
The pictures in the Huawei are way more darker...
first- S9
Second -Mate

Auto Setting in both phones.
Huawei with AI off

merewood bebox said:
Do you think the m20p is a good upgrade from the s8/s8+ especially including the free pre order gifts?
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Well yeah.. The phone itself is nice. Good upgrade if your coming from s8..

Ok, while I really like this phone for it's camera capabilities, it's fair to say my experience with the M20Pro shooter has been a bit mixed. I am coming from a S7 edge (great camera for its time). My girlfriend has an iPhone XS, so that's also a good reference.
The good: the wide angle lens is amazing, great for pictures of architecture and nature, shots look dramatic and fairly unique. Night mode is also good, when it get's it right, it renders a really impressive picture. Portrait mode is a bit agressive, but does an above average job bluring the foreground as well as the backgroud. Aperture mode is neat and more natural looking than portrait. AI is ok, it get's things right more often than not. I haven't used much the 3x zoom yet, but I guess it can come in handy.
The bad: no optical image stabilization - it may seem like nitpicking, but this phone takes a lot of blured shaky picures for a flagship, especially in low light situations. You may find yourself having to have to hold it steady and firm for a good second or two in some situations to get a usable shot. If you're trying to take pictures from moving subjects, like pets or kids, this device is not your greatest friend. The dinamic range is also not the best, lagging significantly behind iPhone and Pixel - the shadows tend to be darker while the highlights do blow sometimes. I found that a little post production goes a long way with the M20P shots - when you recover those shadows, add a tad of sharpness and maybe a bit of saturation you can make a rather dull pic look amazing - but I can understand how the average user might not want to go throught that. Also not great is the HDR, firstly because it's a separate hidden mode in the extras (when it should be a toggle always readily available on the interface), secondly because, as mentioned, while usable, it's not top class - and again the lack of OIS makes things trickier.
All in all, I am mostly pleased with this camera because of its versatility. You can acomplish pictures with the M20P that no other phone can match - like a wide angle night shot. Having said that, it's certainly not the best point and shoot phone camera out there - to get the most of it you have to wrestle through the endless menus and modes and sometimes work a bit on the post production. So, if you don't care abou the wide angle lens and just want a phone camera that spits out eye catching images 9 times out of 10, I guess you could be better served with a Pixel 3, iPhone Xs or even a Galaxy S/Note 9.
Those are my two cents, but I'm curious to read what you guys think.
Cheers.

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Ok, while I really like this phone for it's camera capabilities, it's fair to say my experience with the M20Pro shooter has been a bit mixed. I am coming from a S7 edge (great camera for its time). My girlfriend has an iPhone XS, so that's also a good reference.
The good: the wide angle lens is amazing, .....
Those are my two cents, but I'm curious to read what you guys think.
Cheers.
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Nice sharing, agreed the M20P photo is not the best in certain situation, video too, but i bought it just because the wide angle camera, the huge battery and the fast charging.
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sousa_2005 said:
anyone know if this phone has diferent camera sensores like samsung (Sony and samsung sensor)?
I can't believe that my S9 with only one camera take way BETTER shots than the Mate 20 pro.
Too much disappointed with this!
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first- S9
Second -Mate
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Hi there, what firmware you are on?
Mine is 9.0.0.126, seem like ok.

sousa_2005 said:
anyone know if this phone has diferent camera sensores like samsung (Sony and samsung sensor)?
I can't believe that my S9 with only one camera take way BETTER shots than the Mate 20 pro.
Too much disappointed with this!
Don't know if I'm doing anything wrong...
I bought this because I was tired of the Samsung ui and the slow (NO) updates... but payed a lot more for this phone and comparing the pictures.. 90% of them are worst than the S9.
The pictures in the Huawei are way more darker...
first- S9
Second -Mate
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40mp or 10 mp ?
to use 40, you need are really well lit environment, otherwise its always 10 mp for hdr effect.

hi just know what happened ..... shame on me...

sousa_2005 said:
hi just know what happened ..... shame on me...
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And?

Is this FAKE, or is this a real night video from the p20 pro?

Hi Guys! Im looking for a phone that is the best in low light video (not photo!!!)
had an s9 on me a few days ago but the videos were way too dark in the situation i need it for.
now i found this video on youtube, can this be legit, or some gimmick used here?
Huawei P20 Pro - moving in low light : Bucharest at night 4K
the dark places (park, under trees etc) look way better than the s9.
but its hard to believe, i read in lot of reviews that the videos on the p20 pro are mediocre, not as great as the photo quality.
i suspect this was made with DSLR, not this phone....
any opinions? thx?

kbuss said:
Hi Guys! Im looking for a phone that is the best in low light video (not photo!!!)
had an s9 on me a few days ago but the videos were way too dark in the situation i need it for.
now i found this video on youtube, can this be legit, or some gimmick used here?
Huawei P20 Pro - moving in low light : Bucharest at night 4K
the dark places (park, under trees etc) look way better than the s9.
but its hard to believe, i read in lot of reviews that the videos on the p20 pro are mediocre, not as great as the photo quality.
i suspect this was made with DSLR, not this phone....
any opinions? thx?
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It might be real...I own one and the video quality is way better since android 9...I will make a video tonight and upload it on youtube and post it here...and let you decide. The light in that video is not bad,because of the street lights,so not so hard to be at that quality. But I always make videos ad 1080 60 fps,it's better in my opinion and stabilization is active.
But I will do it at 4k in a few hours(they obviously put the phone on a stand or something,the video had no shake at all,I will do it by hand,so a little shake will be in my video,the stabilization is only active at most 1080 60 fps)

Please note that the p20 pro does not have image stabilization in 4k. They used a gimball. That is indeed p20 pro, I recognise the wavyness of the video when panning around. However... The video quality is not good. Samsung is better at that.

exodus394 said:
It might be real...I own one and the video quality is way better since android 9...I will make a video tonight and upload it on youtube
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hey thanks but if not a problem for you, plz make a video in the lowest possible framerate/resolution.
allow me to be more precise. im looking for the phone i can make a usable video in the lowest possible light.
i live in a problematic neighborhood, and if there is some argument that i record for evidence, i need video that is not just a black screen...
i dont need 4k for that, in fact even 480p would be enough if it has best low light sensitivity.
i try to attach 2 examples . THESE WERE MADE WITH S9!!! not p20 pro
1. part of my room with a 15W lava lamp. as you can see, apart from the lamp, everything else in unrecognizable (guitar on the wall, computer desk) you can barely see something is there.
2. garden+street with average suburban lighting. at the end of the video, there is good lighting, but if something is shadowed from the streetlight (tree, bushes) you basically see nothing, just pitch black. you woulnd even see if a person is there or not.
i converted to gif for better uploading but on the original videos the light level was the same, you cannot see nothing in the dark parts.
thats why it was hard to believe in the first post video, you can basically see everything, even in the shadows.

guys it wont properly play the above gifs, and many times just hangs. XDA site problem or its on my side...? thx

I do a ton of recording at EDM shows, rapidly changing lights, lazers, etc, and I've been beyond impressed by the video quality. The details this camera catches is nothing shy of amazing. I also don't bother with 4k, because in all honesty, I won't be viewing the videos on a TV large enough to take advantage of the resolution. So for me 1080P is more than adequate. Plus the steady shot/stabilization is definitely needed at my shows. My only complaint about videos on the P20 is the volume in loud environments. Ideally I should be using a usb-C microphone, but it's just easier without.

kbuss said:
hey thanks but if not a problem for you, plz make a video in the lowest possible framerate/resolution.
allow me to be more precise. im looking for the phone i can make a usable video in the lowest possible light.
i live in a problematic neighborhood, and if there is some argument that i record for evidence, i need video that is not just a black screen...
i dont need 4k for that, in fact even 480p would be enough if it has best low light sensitivity.
i try to attach 2 examples . THESE WERE MADE WITH S9!!! not p20 pro
1. part of my room with a 15W lava lamp. as you can see, apart from the lamp, everything else in unrecognizable (guitar on the wall, computer desk) you can barely see something is there.
2. garden+street with average suburban lighting. at the end of the video, there is good lighting, but if something is shadowed from the streetlight (tree, bushes) you basically see nothing, just pitch black. you woulnd even see if a person is there or not.
i converted to gif for better uploading but on the original videos the light level was the same, you cannot see nothing in the dark parts.
thats why it was hard to believe in the first post video, you can basically see everything, even in the shadows.
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Ok,I will. I did not have time yesterday. I will make a video in my room,with light only from pc,and another with the monitor turned off,I have lots of leds so there is some light,but very low.

Here you go,I made a video in my room,the only light source being my pc: https://youtu.be/Hb5nxI_APNA

exodus394 said:
Here you go,I made a video in my room,the only light source being my pc: https://youtu.be/Hb5nxI_APNA
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hey, thx nice Union Jack :good: :highfive:

exodus394 said:
Here you go,I made a video in my room,the only light source being my pc: https://youtu.be/Hb5nxI_APNA
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just 1 more thing. if you turn off the monitor, but put the video in 720p/30 fps, does the camera "see" anything?

exodus394 said:
It might be real...I own one and the video quality is way better since android 9...I will make a video tonight and upload it on youtube and post it here...and let you decide. The light in that video is not bad,because of the street lights,so not so hard to be at that quality. But I always make videos ad 1080 60 fps,it's better in my opinion and stabilization is active.
But I will do it at 4k in a few hours(they obviously put the phone on a stand or something,the video had no shake at all,I will do it by hand,so a little shake will be in my video,the stabilization is only active at most 1080 60 fps)
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There is no stabilization at 1080p 60 fps. You will only have it up to 30 fps.

kbuss said:
just 1 more thing. if you turn off the monitor, but put the video in 720p/30 fps, does the camera "see" anything?
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Of course not,only the leds from pc,but in picture,night mode it can capture a lot more detail than I can see with my eyes.
And the video you saw captured very well,I did not see much more than the camera,it was very dark in the room.

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Of course not,only the leds from pc,but in picture,night mode it can capture a lot more detail than I can see with my eyes.
And the video you saw captured very well,I did not see much more than the camera,it was very dark in the room.
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thx, sorry, i was looking into other phones thats why it took long to get back...
i understand your reply, thats exactly my problem. im pretty much convinced that the original video is fake or cannot be made with a stock p20p camera app...
i live in a similar city like Bucharest where the video is made, eastern europe also.
in a business disctrict maybe, but in parks, normal streets etc we just dont have enough light for that
if you check the video you see that everything is visible even in the shadows, for example someone couldnt hide there cos the camera would see him.
thats just not realistic. i watched your footage, and is very similar to s9, although i had less light, but not complete darkness, sort of in between.
yes i know the night photo is great but i couldt find any evidence that it has better low light video then other phones... (apart from that one in the post)
i mean if its that good, how come we dont have a lot of amateur videos, or vlogger videos made at night with the p20p..?
just doesnt add up for me.
ps: i checked, my light was about 1/3 of your white PC screen.

kbuss said:
thx, sorry, i was looking into other phones thats why it took long to get back...
i understand your reply, thats exactly my problem. im pretty much convinced that the original video is fake or cannot be made with a stock p20p camera app...
i live in a similar city like Bucharest where the video is made, eastern europe also.
in a business disctrict maybe, but in parks, normal streets etc we just dont have enough light for that
if you check the video you see that everything is visible even in the shadows, for example someone couldnt hide there cos the camera would see him.
thats just not realistic. i watched your footage, and is very similar to s9, although i had less light, but not complete darkness, sort of in between.
yes i know the night photo is great but i couldt find any evidence that it has better low light video then other phones... (apart from that one in the post)
i mean if its that good, how come we dont have a lot of amateur videos, or vlogger videos made at night with the p20p..?
just doesnt add up for me.
ps: i checked, my light was about 1/3 of your white PC screen.
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I did not compare it with other premium NEW phones,but it's good enough for me,if I ever want to make a video at night,most probably it will be inside a house,a pub,or even outside is good enough with street lights...if you need more,I don't know what to recommend to you,I did not research enough. But I do know it's better than cheaper phones for sure...and better than my old P9 and my Asus Zenfone 3(which were both premium when they were released).

General S21 Ultra 5G - Night Mode Sample

As many of you requested, here you go.

Thanks alot! can you post night mode (not auto but longer exposure ones) of dark environment not just low light?
Also can you take a medium light shots with and without scene optimizer turned on?
Did you used touch to focus - then shot? and is it exynos or snapdragon?

dazed1 said:
Thanks alot! can you post night mode (not auto but longer exposure ones) of dark environment not just low light?
Also can you take a medium light shots with and without scene optimizer turned on?
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I might do it if I have time.

KenSoftTH said:
I might do it if I have time.
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Please check out the post again, i edited it

dazed1 said:
Please check out the post again, i edited it
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I didn't use touch focus and it was taken on Exynos version.

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I didn't use touch focus and it was taken on Exynos version.
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Thanks! how would you rate your hand stability? some of the pics are blurred as if you accidently moved the phone maybe?

dazed1 said:
Thanks! how would you rate your hand stability? some of the pics are blurred as if you accidently moved the phone maybe?
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On DSLR, I must shoot with shutter speed no less than 1/100. Some photos were 5s explosure on telephoto lens, so expect some bluriness.

KenSoftTH said:
On DSLR, I must shoot with shutter speed no less than 1/100. Some photos were 5s explosure on telephoto lens, so expect some bluriness.
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I'm sorry dude, i hope you don't get this wrong, i just want to make sure its the camera and not your hands, i just checked most of this photos, and most of them are blurry, so either this environment is much darker then it looks or maybe you didn't get the camera update that some units just now are receiving?

dazed1 said:
I'm sorry dude, i hope you don't get this wrong, i just want to make sure its the camera and not your hands, i just checked most of this photos, and most of them are blurry, so either this environment is much darker then it looks or maybe you didn't get the camera update that some units just now are receiving?
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The environment is super dark, I would say photo look like 3-4 stop brighter than the actual place. Here is the setting I must use on DSLR to get the shot if you care about it. SS 1/100 f/1.8 ISO 6400. I already download and update 1 patch upon receiving the unit which has 1.0GB in size.

So if it so dark, how would you compare the photos with other phones? are they decent, good, great? next time just a suggestion, take few non night mode/regular shots if prompted for auto night mode turn it off if possible, that shot should be great for reference. Thanks for taking the time to answer

dazed1 said:
So if it so dark, how would you compare the photos with other phones? are they decent, good, great? next time just a suggestion, take few non night mode/regular shots if prompted for auto night mode turn it off if possible, that shot should be great for reference. Thanks for taking the time to answer
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Here is night shot vs pro mode pair.
Compared to S7, I would say it is much better, but S7 is 2017 era phone, so I don't think it's a good competitor.
Even pro mode looks 1 stop brighter than actual place.

Thanks dude! really appreciate it.
Please report back when you can on the scene optimizer.

dazed1 said:
Thanks dude! really appreciate it.
Please report back when you can on the scene optimizer.
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dazed1 said:
Thanks dude! really appreciate it.
Please report back when you can on the scene optimizer.
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The scene optimizer sends you to night mode upon turning on, so it's the same as using the night mode anyway.

KenSoftTH said:
The scene optimizer sends you to night mode upon turning on, so it's the same as using the night mode anyway.
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Yes but i prefer to see medium to low light shot without night mode and no scene optimizer

My Ultra 21is coming on Wedn., 27th, but check out this night shots video from down under - this phone camera rocks!