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check the below performance comparison ,
i really want this phone after so much time i was away from samsung , but as now i have iphone X i don't want a laggy or stuttery phone ,
when you see this video , the exynos is not only slower but even stuttry when switching between tests than the SD855 , it makes me want to got to the MI9 from xiaomi only for the cpu
https://youtu.be/MgRnbm9wrzg
i wish the exynos was at least on par with the 855 in performance
c'mon don't believe everything, wait for more elaborated cpu reviews... this Gary not seems to be a real expert
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14031/samsung-galaxy-s10-first-exynos-9820-vs-snapdragon-855-scores
Yes, snapdragon is way better, pity
Mohamad Gahed said:
check the below performance comparison ,
i really want this phone after so much time i was away from samsung , but as now i have iphone X i don't want a laggy or stuttery phone ,
when you see this video , the exynos is not only slower but even stuttry when switching between tests than the SD855 , it makes me want to got to the MI9 from xiaomi only for the cpu
https://youtu.be/MgRnbm9wrzg
i wish the exynos was at least on par with the 855 in performance
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Besides having more Custom ROM options I don't know of any other advantages the Exynos Chipset has over the Spapdragon variant. As far as lagging, since the S9 it's not an issue and with UI/Android 9 Update it's as smooth and faster than than anything iPhone offers. The CPU in the S10 is the same as the Xiaomi so you'll get a lesser smartphone at a lower price.
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Besides having more Custom ROM options I don't know of any other advantages the Exynos Chipset has over the Spapdragon variant. As far as lagging, since the S9 it's not an issue and with UI/Android 9 Update it's as smooth and faster than than anything iPhone offers. The CPU in the S10 is the same as the Xiaomi so you'll get a lesser smartphone at a lower price.
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i mentioned xiaomi as it have the SD855 vs the Exynos in the s10 , as in my country we only have the exynos with samsung we don't get the SD ,
also i need to ask you about your statment about the s9 and the one UI update , are you talking about the exynos version or the SD 845 version?am interested to know if the 9810 also after the update is good in speed and not laggy or something as old samsungs specially after a while of use.
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i mentioned xiaomi as it have the SD855 vs the Exynos in the s10 , as in my country we only have the exynos with samsung we don't get the SD ,
also i need to ask you about your statment about the s9 and the one UI update , are you talking about the exynos version or the SD 845 version?am interested to know if the 9810 also after the update is good in speed and not laggy or something as old samsungs specially after a while of use.
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No, it's an SM-G9650, Snapdragon 845, Hong Kong, I won't consider a Exynos variant when I can get a Snapdragon variant, bootloader unlocked especially with the new SD 855 which is faster, no overheating, battery drain or carrier compatibility concerns. Not to mention the Snapdragon variant is much better optimized for AI and 5G.
Mmmmm, disappointing to say the least.
I have just cancelled my pre-order of the S10 from Sammy UK. I'm not happy spending £799.
Decided to order the U.S Version from Amazon. Not fussed with rooting this device, as I have other phones to play with.
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Mmmmm, disappointing to say the least.
I have just cancelled my pre-order of the S10 from Sammy UK. I'm not happy spending £799 on a phone with a chip set that is last year.
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LOL, too funny, last year was 8 weeks ago! Almost all flagship android devices are using the SD 855. With the exceptions of iPhone A12, Exynos 9820 and Huawei's Kirin 980, all of which are older than the SD 855!
Slight overreaction but as someone who has the 10+ pre-ordered in the UK I do feel short-changed. If I could get the SD55 model in the UK I would.
If there is a significant difference between the two though this is not good for Samsung. Especially as we pay more in the UK for the privilege.
From what I have seen the Exynos single core is double that of the Snapdragon, and only falls a little short in mulyicore performance. But there are pros and cons to both chipsets.
However I do like the Snapdragon 855, and would be more uniform if Samsung just shipped all units with that chipset.
It's funny, you guys that aren't in North America want the SD 855 and a lot of us here in the USA want the Exynos 9820!
Personally, I ordered an Exynos variant and am receiving it March 4th. It seems as if there are a lot of issues with the Exynos version in terms of LTE bands as well, as the version I ordered is likely the SEA region that lacks specific bands that I want. But then again.. that prism green looks gorgeous and is a pretty big reason why I ordered it. I'm inclined to return it though, and trade in my old S8+ through Samsung since they're offering a decent amount for it. We'll see!
You guys are too picky. There is nothing wrong with Exynos 9820 version. It's amazingly fast with amazing battery life. Synthetic benchmarks mean almost nothing!
Real life speed test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uru9AnkgzHc
Real life battery test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgqinnFGqmQ
I ordered the Snapdragon version because its what Tmo US sells. I'm not a huge phone gamer, but I haven't found speed to be a factor on a modern flagship phone in years. I'm much more worried about battery life and overall features. Speed at this point is pretty much the least of my concerns. The only thing actually tying my to Samsung anymore is secure folder, another company REALLY needs to create a competitor. ( did order S10+)
I am interested in whichever one is better at battery life. If Samsung would put a midrange chipset with that camera in that shell, I would buy it I am inclined to believe that the 7nm Snapdragon will be better than the 8nm Exynos, but there were occasions (Galaxy S7/Edge) when the Exynos version was vastly superior in battery life. I would really want to see a battery life comparison between SD855 and Exynos 9820 in order to decide if importing from the US to Europe at a higher price is actually worth it.
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I am interested in whichever one is better at battery life. If Samsung would put a midrange chipset with that camera in that shell, I would buy it I am inclined to believe that the 7nm Snapdragon will be better than the 8nm Exynos, but there were occasions (Galaxy S7/Edge) when the Exynos version was vastly superior in battery life. I would really want to see a battery life comparison between SD855 and Exynos 9820 in order to decide if importing from the US to Europe at a higher price is actually worth it.
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Exactly what I would say. Waiting on a battery comparison as well.
Benchmarks are not that important. I tend to set all my phones on a battery friendly setting since years.
Preordered the exynos s10, but in the end its the only option really in Europe. If battery is better then I can miss out on the speed. But i agree on some of the opinions that charging the same money on so vastly different phones when there is such a big difference in the chipsets is wrong.
But I would say we have to wait for the release, as the demo and preproduction units are not with final software.
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the snapdragon version when it comes out? on ebay I only saw the exynos version.
After 7 years of iPhone I'm planning to switch to android.
The problem is that the snapdragon version has the bootloader locked... and I don't know exactly in which way
I'm living in Mexico so we get the SD855 but we also have the exynos on Amazon.
SD855 is way better (battery, heating, speed) but can I at least root the device? Will be there few custom roms? I'm switching from iPhone cos I got tired and bored. But i dont want a device that locks me again...
On the other hand, the exynos comes with no warranty, heating issues, battery, etc. But it comes in dual SIM and green and flawless rooting/ custom roms
In the first year I don't plan to root/ change the ROM, but after a year I might want to do it and the most frustrating thing would be the impossibility due to locked bootloader.
Gosh just saw my signature )) I haven't been here for a loooong time haha
LEX404 said:
After 7 years of iPhone I'm planning to switch to android.
The problem is that the snapdragon version has the bootloader locked... and I don't know exactly in which way
I'm living in Mexico so we get the SD855 but we also have the exynos on Amazon.
SD855 is way better (battery, heating, speed) but can I at least root the device? Will be there few custom roms? I'm switching from iPhone cos I got tired and bored. But i dont want a device that locks me again...
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The SD models will come locked, and will stay that way unless a vulnerability is found, the same applies to root. No ETA on either of the two. But honestly don't expect the bootloader to become unlocked in the SD variant.
So the only chance is exynos from Amazon or if I can get SD from Hong Kong (probably not)
That's so unfair
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So the only chance is exynos from Amazon or if I can get SD from Hong Kong (probably not)
That's so unfair
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Well, what's your preference?
Do you want bootloader unlocked, root or both?
If all you really want is root AND you were going to wait about a year anyway, then the SD model may be just fine.
If you want your bootloader unlocked then Exynos for sure.
Hi!
I want to buy a Samsung S10+ but I have to decide between exynos or snapdragon.
Any advice?
I would like to unlock and root the phone.
I come from Italy so would be easier to find an exynos one.
Thanks a lot!
If you had the HK Snap you'd have a slightly faster/better battery/cam/DAC phone but much less support from XDA.
The Exynos would be a bit slower/harder on battery but with much more modding support from XDA.
Pick your poison.
How slightly? :laugh:
thank you for the response.
I think I'll problaby go with the exynos at this point...
I need root but I still ordered an unlocked Snapdragon although in my country (Germany) it's not available. I was lucky that at the arrival root was also available for Snappys (Honk Kong / China).
Snapdragon is basically more widely optimized in certain apps. Exynos is more likely to get more ROMs in the near future and at the moment it already has an early version TWRP.
My reasons for Snappy:
- Better camera processing
- Better headphone DAC
- GPU is like 30% faster
- In some reviews the Exynos throttles quite a lot compared to Snappy
- Emulators run bad on Exynos compared to Snapdragons (It was important for me)
- The CPU part is more up to date (7nm process etc.) The exynos is still produced in 8nm process
- As a result the Snapdragon will uses less power on equal terms (physics)
- You have a rare phone...
- I was aware that ROMs will be rare but the S10 is sooo god out of the box anyway and with root you can customize necessary settings
- Samsung kinda fools the consumers by using the inferior Exynos but they got more equal since the last Exynos
I fogot one downside which could be significant for some.
You will get a restricted warranty if at all. you won't be able to buy that phone with a contract in "Exynos" countries.
thank you very much for all the infos
but is it already possible to root with snapdragon?
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thank you very much for all the infos
but is it already possible to root with snapdragon?
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yes but it's important to have an unlocked bootloader. As far as I know only China/HK devices have an unlocked BL.
The name is SM-G9700 (s10e), SM-G9730 (s10), SM-G9750(s10+)
Snapdragon for the heavy 3d gamers, exynos for the others in Europe/Middle East.
You won't find a difference but in games as already said the exynos will get warmer and battery will deplete faster.
In another hand once custom kernels and roms will be unleashed, cpu/gpu control will improve on exynos, same will go with the camera which can be modded to lowering noise removal and why not give raw to the telephoto and wide angle cameras
I've also heard that the Hong Kong/ TGY variant (i.e. G9730 on the S10 and G9700 on the S10e) may have some issues with connecting on some 4G bands in Europe (but especially in the US). For what I read on the other threads, it seems that they are not set-up correctly for doing carrier aggregation (CA) which, if I understood it correctly, will influence your downlink speed and may affect some features like Voice over LTE (VoLTE). Am I correct? Do you guys know how bad this will affect user experience?
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I need root but I still ordered an unlocked Snapdragon although in my country (Germany) it's not available. I was lucky that at the arrival root was also available for Snappys (Honk Kong / China).
Snapdragon is basically more widely optimized in certain apps. Exynos is more likely to get more ROMs in the near future and at the moment it already has an early version TWRP.
My reasons for Snappy:
- Better camera processing
- Better headphone DAC
- GPU is like 30% faster
- In some reviews the Exynos throttles quite a lot compared to Snappy
- Emulators run bad on Exynos compared to Snapdragons (It was important for me)
- The CPU part is more up to date (7nm process etc.) The exynos is still produced in 8nm process
- As a result the Snapdragon will uses less power on equal terms (physics)
- You have a rare phone...
- I was aware that ROMs will be rare but the S10 is sooo god out of the box anyway and with root you can customize necessary settings
- Samsung kinda fools the consumers by using the inferior Exynos but they got more equal since the last Exynos
I fogot one downside which could be significant for some.
You will get a restricted warranty if at all. you won't be able to buy that phone with a contract in "Exynos" countries.
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And another downside is the price... About 80-90€ more in Europe than Exynos one.
Is rooting and custom ROM's be available to the snapdragon version of China? The G9730?
I can buy the exynos version for 600€ and the G9730 for 630€
Is it worth the extra 30€?
I just want a functional GCam and rooting is a must for me, if it can't be rooted I might just go for the exynos version
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Is rooting and custom ROM's be available to the snapdragon version of China?
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I also wanted to change my phone to s10, but then checked xda devices pages of s7, s8, s9 and understood that there is no point in taking Samsung. Even though S7 just got properly working LOS16, other devices are still way behind with dying threads as devices don't have developers left.
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Snapdragon for the heavy 3d gamers, exynos for the others in Europe/Middle East.
You won't find a difference but in games as already said the exynos will get warmer and battery will deplete faster.
In another hand once custom kernels and roms will be unleashed, cpu/gpu control will improve on exynos, same will go with the camera which can be modded to lowering noise removal and why not give raw to the telephoto and wide angle cameras
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But only partly. Overclocking is bad for battery and harms stability. Also you cannot improve an inferior Mali-GPU to perform better or equal to the good Adreno.
Also Exynos is sometimes not optimized well, for example on emulators, so a Snapdragon will always be a lot faster even without any optimization.
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And another downside is the price... About 80-90€ more in Europe than Exynos one.
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Mine was like 40-50€ cheaper when I've bought it.
BraiinDust said:
Is rooting and custom ROM's be available to the snapdragon version of China? The G9730?
I can buy the exynos version for 600€ and the G9730 for 630€
Is it worth the extra 30€?
I just want a functional GCam and rooting is a must for me, if it can't be rooted I might just go for the exynos version
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I've rooted my Chinese phone for quite a while. Installing the HongKong firmware allows everything.
No custom recovery though but I don't miss it honestly.
Roms are possible (when custome recov. is there) but will likely come for the Exynos mostly.
Honestly on my Exynos Galaxy S6 there haven't been many advantages with a custom rom.
On Lineage Roms the camera and other things didn't work well which was absolutely not acceptable for me.
Expect even less customizations for the (Exynos) Galaxy S10s, also because with Pie new barriers appear for developers. Let alone future Android versions...
I would say it is worth it. Read my advantage list which was mostly reviewed and approved.
thanks everyone for giving an opinion.
I would like to know, for the chinese version, if it's available also Magisk.
Also, where can I buy online a chinese version with warranty? any link to share?
thanks again
The only reason I'd get an Exynos (for use here in the US) is for root. That's it. That's why I'm buying an Exynos Note 10 (maybe) next spring. Prices will drop steadily by then. Currently using a SD S10.
I think most will have seen the early benchmarks showing the Snapdragon considerably outperforms the Exnyos version of the device in terms of speed and battery life.
My question is, is this still the case? Or have they managed to close the gap between them?
I don't really game very much so my main concerns to be honest are battery life, scrolling smoothness, overall performance more than high FPS in games.
many thanks ?
I think they will not differ much in normal usage and the exynos s10 is still very smooth with me till today specially while using FHD resolution
I also don't game at all frankly.
Mohamad Gahed said:
I think they will not differ much in normal usage and the exynos s10 is still very smooth with me till today specially while using FHD resolution
I also don't game at all frankly.
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That's good to hear. I don't want to upset anyone with the Exnyos variant, it's just frustrating that for basically the same price the USA gets the snap dragon and the rest of us get a solution which seems to be a little worse in every way. I wouldn't mind so much if it had better battery life or better performance in some other area.
Maybe I should stop thinking that way and just remember that it's still a strong performer.
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That's good to hear. I don't want to upset anyone with the Exnyos variant, it's just frustrating that for basically the same price the USA gets the snap dragon and the rest of us get a solution which seems to be a little worse in every way. I wouldn't mind so much if it had better battery life or better performance in some other area.
Maybe I should stop thinking that way and just remember that it's still a strong performer.
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back in the note 4 days, the exnyos version was better in terms of battery life and cpu performance, but was worse in gpu.
No one is locked in to a certain device. You have the option to purchase the Snapdragon Hong Kong variant on Ebay which has a number of advantages over the US Snapdragon. The bootloader can be unlocked, dual SIM's, less bloatware and more telco frequency options. You lose the warranty, which I've never needed, since Samsung's quality issues are almost non existent. The Exynos variants may seem to have similar performance but it doesn't stack up to the Snapdragon SoC.
In my opinion I wouldn't worry too much. I came from a snapdragon 845 S9+ to an Exynos S10. With S9+ I could run every app and game fluently. No lag at all in android "Samsung experience". I ran Antutu benchmark on both phones and Exynos S10 have higher points than S9+ (CPU and GPU)
So, does it really matters that S855 is better than new Exynos when S845 could do anything and new Exynos is better than that?
We are at a point where numbers are getting higher but it really doesn't matter in real life. And Exynos have something that snapdragon doesn't and it is better developer's support (ROMS, mods, root, custom recovery, etc). So, Exynos is a win for me.
PD: S9+ is an excellent phone. I switched to S10 because my father wanted the S9+. Then I got S10 in a good sale wich is an excellent phone too: more ram, 64 vs 128 gb storage, little better CPU/GPU, little better more tunned camera, extra wide camera, more screen body relation, almost the same battery in a smaller phone, single SIM vs double SIM card (depends on your version) and it was cheaper for me because I got it in a good deal.
Enjoy you Exynos S10 and don't worry about the snapdragon version. It is an superb phone.
Exynos FTW!!
exynos speed takes a beating
I know I had the exynos s10+ sold it for the TGY version
tmobile speed has been steller
I missed the exynos roms and support but SD model is getting there too
plus we haave a fully working Gcam bam lol
Killing it in a useless benchmark, but 100K ahead of my Note 20 Ultra
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Killing it in a useless benchmark, but 100K ahead of my Note 20 Ultra
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Snap or exynos? this year exynos finally abit better in CPU performance. but sadly snapdragon 888 still better by far in GPU department , untill AMD cpu RDNA next year. im barely gaming on my phone anymore so my exynos its ok for me
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Snap or exynos? this year exynos finally abit better in CPU performance. but sadly snapdragon 888 still better by far in GPU department , untill AMD cpu RDNA next year. im barely gaming on my phone anymore so my exynos its ok for me
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As a Scandinavian, it is nice to hear that Samsung's Exynos is finally on par with Snapdragon, because those Exynos models are sold here in Scandinavia.
I don't give a whole lot for the Benchmark tests - but it is fun to see how well your phone does - very impressed with the scores I have seen on Snapdragon S21 Ultras....
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As a Scandinavian, it is nice to hear that Samsung's Exynos is finally on par with Snapdragon, because those Exynos models are sold here in Scandinavia.
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I am from Sweden, i had Exynos models of Samsung all the time until the last year's S20 Ultra, i went for the Snapdragon 865 model imported from Hong Kong because of the chip itself. The Exynos 990 was bad in every point, bad CPU, bad GPU, bad battery life, too much heating, too much throttling, so now with the new Exynos 2100 i can see Samsung is back on track even though the Snapdragon 888 still a little bit better but that difference is not an issue for the majority of end-users, they will never pay attention for these stuff so i am also happy for that and that's why decided this time to go for S21 Ultra Exynos 2100 for many reasons, see them below:
1. The Exynos 2100 supports ALL frequencies, band combinations unlike the Snapdragon model from HK, it is limited, so actually, if i want a good coverage and full modem support, i have to choose the model customised with the Swedish networks.
2. The Android phones sold in Sweden has 2 years of warranty, also 3 years of returns right if we prove the phone has manufacturing issue! In this case for example i returned back an S20+ with Exynos 990 and i claimed it was a very bad chip when comparing to Snapdragon!! This is after i used the phone for 8 months lol.
3. If the phone gets issues, it's very easy to send it to a service center for fix (for free). With imported Snapdragon model, i need to send it back to HK, which costs me around 50-60 € in DHL postage fee, also it has only 1 year warranty by the store, not by Samsung itself.
4. If the phone gets broken or stolen, my home insurance company compensate me well with the Swedish model and much less with the imported Snapdragon one..
So many aspects to choose a phone in Sweden, i guess it's almost the same elsewhere in Europe.
Main priority is battery life. Budget is not the issue. Kinda inclined towards s21u design too. But confused about getting the newer thing.
Any thoughts?
(S pen matters little to none)
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Exynos has had a history of being worse than Snapdragon, especially battery life. Recently there has been news of some S22 Ultra Exynos devices having display issues. I would recommend getting the Snapdragon variant.
S22 Ultra Snapdragon
redpoint_ said:
Exynos has had a history of being worse than Snapdragon, especially battery life. Recently there has been news of some S22 Ultra Exynos devices having display issues. I would recommend getting the Snapdragon variant.
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Yea. Read that about 2200 exynos. But i am asking about exynos 2100 with snapdragon 8gen 1. I guess s21u is more efficient. Aint it the case?
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Yea. Read that about 2200 exynos. But i am asking about exynos 2100 with snapdragon 8gen 1. I guess s21u is more efficient. Aint it the case?
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Overoll i think Snapdragon is better but that new Snapdragon 8 gen 1 getting really hot in gaming or heavy camera use.
Here is one thread about it.
S22 Ultra gets VERY HOT (120°F during gaming)
Well been using my 22 Ultra for a few days now. Everything seems pretty solid, performance is good, cameras are fine. Mine does have 12gb of RAM and is the Snapdragon variant. But I noticed during gaming for even 10-15 minutes on stuff like Real...
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Battery life was something you listed as important. The S22U is getting panned for it's bad battery life.
Snapdragon S22U i would buy in a heartbeat if Samsung offered it in the UK
I get barely over 500k on Antutu ... S22U snapdragon is close to 900k-1m
Plus the ISP is better on SD
Battery life is better
There's literally NO benefit in any catagory for Samsung in which the Exynos wins
It's a terminally failed experiment
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Battery life was something you listed as important. The S22U is getting panned for it's bad battery life.
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Exactly. And s21 exynos has better battery life than s22u snapdragon. (Source. YouTube videos)
But Snapdragon models has better idle battery performance than Exynos.
Exynos if you want to root your phone. SnapDragon for better performance.
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But Snapdragon models has better idle battery performance than Exynos.
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Agreed. Its not just about exynos and snapdragon. Its also about s21u or s22u.
Its just s21u was came with exynos in my region and s22u with snapdragon.
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Exynos if you want to root your phone. SnapDragon for better performance.
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If you could shed some more light about what you said. (I am very much comfortable with rooting and custom roms)
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Snapdragon S22U i would buy in a heartbeat if Samsung offered it in the UK
I get barely over 500k on Antutu ... S22U snapdragon is close to 900k-1m
Plus the ISP is better on SD
Battery life is better
There's literally NO benefit in any catagory for Samsung in which the Exynos wins
It's a terminally failed experiment
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I feel for you. S22u exynos is worse even from s21u exynos. And obviously bad from its snapdragon counterpart. Gladly my region switched from exynos to snapdragon with 21 to 22 this year
It's just so disrespectful to customers.... 1 product, 2 variants, both same price but with year-on-year proving inferiority in ISP, GPU and battery for Exynos
I'm done with Samsung, gonna get Oppo i reckon.
I've been considering a fruit branded phone for a few months, going to wait and see what the fruit phone 14 looks like.
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It's just so disrespectful to customers.... 1 product, 2 variants, both same price but with year-on-year proving inferiority in ISP, GPU and battery for Exynos
I'm done with Samsung, gonna get Oppo i reckon.
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So, is Oppo any better? As long as you have variety in Android, it will be difficult to settle down on a single brand/ model. Well, that's both the pro and con of Android. If you want consistent performance, battery life, look, and can live with a pre-historic design as well as with a 2-year-old tech, then Apple is the only way forward.
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So, is Oppo any better? As long as you have variety in Android, it will be difficult to settle down on a single brand/ model. Well, that's both the pro and con of Android. If you want consistent performance, battery life, look, and can live with a pre-historic design as well as with a 2-year-old tech, then Apple is the only way forward.
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I really want an S22 ultra --- i like everything about it's positives but the negatives at the moment are just too overwhelming to justify spending almost £1300 on a device that's again worse than it's sibling.
My S21U has become really bad this past couple months since the Android 12 upgrade... even did a factory reset and setup the phone again clean (pain to have to do) but it's no better.
My antutu scores are far worse than even another Exynos 2100 phone (i get around 550000, others get anywhere from 600000-750000). Similar story on most benchmarks, i get significantly down scores in every aspect, i juyst have a bad bin chip but since it's not faulty Samsung wouldn't touch it.
Games stutter really bad, i have to turn down settings on most games that run flawlessly on my wife's OnePlus 9Pro
I agree that Android is what it is -- but I'm done with Exynos ... until they give us the choice of SOC in UK i'm not giving them more money.
I had an S21 Ultra Exynos when it came out and it lasted about 2/3 months before i got so frustrated with it.
I have now (as of last week) purchased a Snapdragon version from ebay and the difference is unreal !