I've seen some threads asking about the google messages apk. but my question is:
My s21 ultra came with google messages by default as SMS app, I also have the Samsung messages app installed (I set it as default instead of the google messages app).
Is there a reason for the google messages app to have come as default? Are there any advantages to it?
p.s. I didn't really find the exact answer around the forum, if there is such answer, can you please point me to it and close this thread?
Regards
joancolmenares said:
I've seen some threads asking about the google messages apk. but my question is:
My s21 ultra came with google messages by default as SMS app, I also have the Samsung messages app installed (I set it as default instead of the google messages app).
Is there a reason for the google messages app to have come as default? Are there any advantages to it?
p.s. I didn't really find the exact answer around the forum, if there is such answer, can you please point me to it and close this thread?
Regards
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I like google messages mainly for the good integration of RCS and also because it has a web app. The UI is fine, darkmode is cool, so if I had to choose I'd go for Google.
Now on why it's google messages by default, I have no clue...
Personally, I like Google Messages, but Samsung Messages now has RCS too I believe. It just got it recently. But from what I've seen and used, Google Messages is probably the way to go. It's just a better experience overall. It can verify business senders, help you report spam messages, and also just a couple of different things that are convenient, like what Raiz mentioned above. I'd go back to Google if you want something that works better overall.
Thanks mates!
Will switch back to Google/Android Messages and test it out a bit more
I use Messages, the only AT&T bloatware app I use.
Edit, it's Samsung not AT&T
Here I am still using Textra lol
Google messages far superior easier to use, much easier adding gifs, emojis and attachments.
I use Google Messages it's really nice and simple to use.
Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.
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Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.
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You can remove using the adb commands. You can find the package name by using the apk analyzer app.
I was using Google Messages on my previous device, but with the S21 I couldn't set conversations to be mute (roaming messages i receive daily on my 2nd sim).
I can only make the notification silent for that conversation, but I don't even want the notification, which I cannot do.
Samsung Messages have this ability
I use signal. Better than both, has everything plus security and privacy.
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You can remove using the adb commands. You can find the package name by using the apk analyzer app.
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Been out of the game for a long time. You can do this without root?
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Been out of the game for a long time. You can do this without root?
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Well you can hide apps from the main user (you) with this trick but you can't actually delete the apk file from /system unless you have root.
I personally prefer Samsung messaging app, mainly because of the its UI.
However, the main advantage of Google messages is the availability of RCS by default, no matter where you live or which carrier you have. You can have RCS with Samsung messages but only if your carrier supports it.
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I was using Google Messages on my previous device, but with the S21 I couldn't set conversations to be mute (roaming messages i receive daily on my 2nd sim).
I can only make the notification silent for that conversation, but I don't even want the notification, which I cannot do.
Samsung Messages have this ability
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Ah, really? I haven't had that problem with my S21U whilst using Google Messages. How were you trying to mute them?
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Ah, really? I haven't had that problem with my S21U whilst using Google Messages. How were you trying to mute them?
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In Samsung Messenger the no notifications option (bell icon with a bar on it) will not even show a notification in the Android notifications area (When I open Messages I will see there is unread messages in the silent conversation), while Google Messages it will still show a notification but without sound.
I use Google Messages because for some reason, MMS won't send or receive in Samsung Messeges.
If anyone has a fix for this....
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Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.
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IMO... Google doesn't really do a good job with most things other than its search algorithms, ad monopoly and data rape....
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IMO... Google doesn't really do a good job with most things other than its search algorithms, ad monopoly and data rape....
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Exactly, especially their UI. I have a pixel phone and many years after the launch of material design Google still doesn't use it in all its apps. The apps feels completely separate, each has it's ow design and colors. Some apps have dark mode with full black background (setting app) while others have dark gray background (contacts, messages,...). Let's not talk about YouTube, which still doesn't follow MD 2...
I like how samsung use the same design language for all its apps and they pay particular attention to small details just like IOS
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Is there an application the integrates google voice as it does in Android
There's two Google Voice apps on the marketplace that I've seen - GoVoce (£2.49) and GV Companion (£Free)
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There's two Google Voice apps on the marketplace that I've seen - GoVoce (£2.49) and GV Companion (£Free)
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Yeah i saw the same as well and will try them out to see whats up with them
I found the GoVoice to be a better app and bought it.
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I found the GoVoice to be a better app and bought it.
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Since you already have the paid version. How well is it integrated ? looks like you still need to go in the app to make outgoing calls via google voice. does it share the contacts from the phone or do you have the transfer your contact book to google voice online ?
Go voice is very nice. But I don't think o can use it as phone Vmail.
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Bottom line, you're not going to get google voice integration like it is in Android.
That said, GoVoice is a solid application.
It can access your phone's contact list and from the dialer part of the application and you can choose to text or call the person you selected from your contacts list.
You can also carry on threaded text conversations from your google voice inbox via GoVoice.
The only downside is that you don't get notifications from the App when you get a new SMS or voicemail. You can work around those limitations using google voice settings, though..
i.e. you can have it forward your SMS messages to your actual nuimber and you can reply to texts from the native SMS app and have it come from your google voice number to the recipient and you can have Google sms you or e-mail you when you get a voicemail from somebody.
It's not ideal.. but if you want ideal as far as Google Voice support, Android is the only real answer. Perhaps later the developer will be able to set information for live tiles so you can keep track that way.
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Bottom line, you're not going to get google voice integration like it is in Android.
That said, GoVoice is a solid application.
It can access your phone's contact list and from the dialer part of the application and you can choose to text or call the person you selected from your contacts list.
You can also carry on threaded text conversations from your google voice inbox via GoVoice.
The only downside is that you don't get notifications from the App when you get a new SMS or voicemail. You can work around those limitations using google voice settings, though..
i.e. you can have it forward your SMS messages to your actual nuimber and you can reply to texts from the native SMS app and have it come from your google voice number to the recipient and you can have Google sms you or e-mail you when you get a voicemail from somebody.
It's not ideal.. but if you want ideal as far as Google Voice support, Android is the only real answer. Perhaps later the developer will be able to set information for live tiles so you can keep track that way.
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Thanks for the detailed answer looking forward to seeing next version from the developers
GoVoice is slow and laggy. No push notification as mentioned. can't make calls out still. I have sent the developer an email stating such. There is a way that he sets up a certain number to use to not be charged the international calls. Not a good work around. I did pay for it.
I hope that Google Voice makes it way to the Marketplace. I use it to dial out to China, El Salvador and Vietnam. Comes in really handy.
GV companion is not in the marketplace. He is currently working on it. I think that will be a better app.
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GoVoice is slow and laggy. No push notification as mentioned. can't make calls out still. I have sent the developer an email stating such. There is a way that he sets up a certain number to use to not be charged the international calls. Not a good work around. I did pay for it.
I hope that Google Voice makes it way to the Marketplace. I use it to dial out to China, El Salvador and Vietnam. Comes in really handy.
GV companion is not in the marketplace. He is currently working on it. I think that will be a better app.
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Really we can not make any outgoing calls using this APP then it is useless.
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GoVoice is slow and laggy. No push notification as mentioned. can't make calls out still. I have sent the developer an email stating such. There is a way that he sets up a certain number to use to not be charged the international calls. Not a good work around. I did pay for it.
I hope that Google Voice makes it way to the Marketplace. I use it to dial out to China, El Salvador and Vietnam. Comes in really handy.
GV companion is not in the marketplace. He is currently working on it. I think that will be a better app.
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This has not been my experience, also a paid user of the app here, my time with the app has been more like the longer reply than this one I've quoted.
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This has not been my experience, also a paid user of the app here, my time with the app has been more like the longer reply than this one I've quoted.
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I wish I could say the same thing. But if you look at the preview beta video of the GV companion it has so much more functionality. It has been over 35 days since he has tweeted. I am wondering what is happening with the final WP7. I sent a tweet to him and an email. I hope to hear from him soon.
U can use gvoice as default Vmail! Enter gvoice in phone settings.
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Ok folks,
I have my new Samsung Gear Live and its paired to my HTC One M7
Although I'm sure that I should be able to reply to SMS messages, the option is not available.
I can say "OK Google" "text fred bloggs" from the home screen and that works.
Do you think the limitation is something to do with HTC's SMS client?
Rik
I have the Live w/HTC One M8.
I'm inclined to believe that the reason my replies work is because I have (just started) SMS texting via Hangouts. I only switched from my normal texting client because I knew that the Wear watches would work out of the box w/Hangouts.
That said, Hangouts is a pretty lousy texting app, but I like that it's baked into Wear.
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Ok folks,
I have my new Samsung Gear Live and its paired to my HTC One M7
Although I'm sure that I should be able to reply to SMS messages, the option is not available.
I can say "OK Google" "text fred bloggs" from the home screen and that works.
Do you think the limitation is something to do with HTC's SMS client?
Rik
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rikwebb said:
Ok folks,
I have my new Samsung Gear Live and its paired to my HTC One M7
Although I'm sure that I should be able to reply to SMS messages, the option is not available.
I can say "OK Google" "text fred bloggs" from the home screen and that works.
Do you think the limitation is something to do with HTC's SMS client?
Rik
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Ok so I don't have my Gear live yet (is on the truck out for delivery), however I asked a similar question and for what I understand you won;t be able to replay to the SMS until the App is updated with the new API to support that. I believe the only one that currently support that is Google own's "Hangouts".
On Google's promotional video for Android Wear, where the guy is on the bus, he gets a text message and says, "reply - be there in 2" and the message is sent.
That does not seem to work but you can make a swipe until you get a "reply" screen that enables you to speak a reply.
Thanks for the info chaps.
I don't even have the swipe across to reply option - all I get is the open on phone option
The reply by voice is one of the key things I was hoping for.
Naughty Google promo's grrrrrr.
Oh well - I suppose we are the beta testers
Same issue here with Gear Live and HTC One M7. I can "Open on phone" when I receive an SMS, but no reply options. Assuming this is a limitation of the HTC Messaging client not being "Wear-aware".... although FWIW I can reply to SMS natively on my M7 via Google Glass, which is essentially using the same set of APIs as far as I know.
So I switched (grudgingly) to Hangouts as my SMS client and all works fine. (Interestingly, the HTC SMS client as well as Google Voice continue to stay synched with Hangouts in the background, so I can still use the GV app or Web interface from other devices.)
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Same issue here with Gear Live and HTC One M7. I can "Open on phone" when I receive an SMS, but no reply options. Assuming this is a limitation of the HTC Messaging client not being "Wear-aware".... although FWIW I can reply to SMS natively on my M7 via Google Glass, which is essentially using the same set of APIs as far as I know.
So I switched (grudgingly) to Hangouts as my SMS client and all works fine. (Interestingly, the HTC SMS client as well as Google Voice continue to stay synched with Hangouts in the background, so I can still use the GV app or Web interface from other devices.)
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Yep - done the same here
Still no reply without swiping though
I'm sure it will come
Pretty sure app needs to support wear api before watch can interact with it
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Pretty sure app needs to support wear api before watch can interact with it
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Can it just support actionable notifications to work?
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Can it just support actionable notifications to work?
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no i think it needs to support android wear specifically. hangouts and evolve both do as of right now, i'd imagine most of the big apps will follow suit sooner rather than later since they stated that it was minimal amount of code that needed to be added in
A little disapointed to read this (mine will be here thursday) but dont forget guys. Updates, updates, updates!! Im sure it will work soon.
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A little disapointed to read this (mine will be here thursday) but dont forget guys. Updates, updates, updates!! Im sure it will work soon.
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if the sms app you use don't support wear, i'd get in contact with the devs, it's almost a trivial amount of coding that needs to be done to support wear!
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if the sms app you use don't support wear, i'd get in contact with the devs, it's almost a trivial amount of coding that needs to be done to support wear!
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Unless you use the AOSP SMS app
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Unless you use the AOSP SMS app
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i wonder if will be updated with wear support since google uses hangouts now and i don't see them adding wear support to aosp apps that they have essentially abandoned.
maybe see if the 8sms devs can add support since it's very similar to aosp messaging?
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On Google's promotional video for Android Wear, where the guy is on the bus, he gets a text message and says, "reply - be there in 2" and the message is sent.
That does not seem to work but you can make a swipe until you get a "reply" screen that enables you to speak a reply.
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When I swipe, I see REPLY, but when i press it, it basically just goes to a check mark.. doesn't even let me say anything.
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When I swipe, I see REPLY, but when i press it, it basically just goes to a check mark.. doesn't even let me say anything.
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What app? Apps need to be updated to trigger voice input from Wear notifications, so it might be opening the "reply" screen on your phone. If not, I have no idea.
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What app? Apps need to be updated to trigger voice input from Wear notifications, so it might be opening the "reply" screen on your phone. If not, I have no idea.
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The stock text message app on the Samsung Galalxy S5
I'm using Hangouts on an N5, but anytime that I try to send a message, it defaults to SMS (through Hangouts) instead of a chat message, which is what I want. Even if I'm replying to a chat that someone just sent me, it tries to send it as an SMS. Quite annoying.
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The stock text message app on the Samsung Galalxy S5
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that won't work until samsung updates their apps to include wear support.
as of right now the only apps i know of are evolve sms and hangouts
when i initially received my watch, I added most of the apps to my G2. I'm using contacts+ for SMS which has wear compatibility. works fine for verbal replies from the watch.
I remember trying Message+ awhile ago and not liking it. Was thinking of giving it another try with this phone. Thoughts?
I use chomp. Lots of nice features.
I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
I never tried messages+ but it has kind of a low rating and bad reviews on the Playstore. I use Textra, it's my favorite now but there are many to choose from.
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I liked Message+ for the most part with previous phones, but it got to be a battery hog for no apparent reason, slowed down my phone, etc. I've stayed away from it since. I'm not minding the Samsung Messaging app so far. I'm usually a Textra user, because it's so light. But I like the stock app for now.
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I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
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With Message+ though, if you receive a msg, and you left your pc on at home, msg gets delivered and pops up on pc, it doesnt show as unread and I missed msgs that way, at least when I tried it awhile ago
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With Message+ though, if you receive a msg, and you left your pc on at home, msg gets delivered and pops up on pc, it doesnt show as unread and I missed msgs that way, at least when I tried it awhile ago
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Incoming messages should send alerts to all of your connected devices. I get notified at my primary phone, my remote devices, and my Huawei watch. If I acknowledge the notification on one device, it syncs across other devices. It's been that way for me for a while.
I use MySMS in conjunction with Rambox. It's awesome as it allows you to reply to text messages at work without using your phone.
Used to be huge fan of GoSMS Pro but too many stinking ads......I use paid version of Textra and love it.
I recently switched to Pulse and it is definitely my favorite SMS app so far. Native black theming and lots of different settings and options. It has the ability to use any device to text, but it's a monthly payment. Has the ability to do lifetime for 10$ though. I might do that here soon.
I like Message+ because of all the customization you can do. It is more than the stock Samsung or android messager. Also, Verizon keeps your texts so that if you reset your phone or switch phones you can download all your messages back.:good:
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I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
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I agree 100%. Message + shows on all my devices & has tons of customization options. No need to use anything a
else.
One feature I'd like to have is send delay. Auto-correction can play havoc sometimes. It'd be useful if I have 3, 5 seconds to edit my text.
anyone else having problems sending MMS through Message+
Message + for me too. I normally use Textra myself but am liking the features of Message +.
Message + is getting annoying. I am trying to like it. I hate how it highlights certain words which make them difficult to edit. I realize it is to show emoticons but still.
Message + on galaxy s8... Has anyone experienced old messages being delivered to new recipients? I have noticed that I have about 3 copies of every message in a conversation. It also appears as if pictures were being sent to random groups of people. Which I'm sure some of you can imagine could be potentially embarrassing.
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Message + is getting annoying. I am trying to like it. I hate how it highlights certain words which make them difficult to edit. I realize it is to show emoticons but still.
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Couldn't you turn that off in Settings - Enable Smart Emojis?
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Couldn't you turn that off in Settings - Enable Smart Emojis?
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Yes. Thanks. I am currently trying out Textra.
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Yes. Thanks. I am currently trying out Textra.
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I like Textra a lot. Heck, I like them all, Chomp, Handcent, GoSMS, even Messenger. However, as I carry 4 phones and 3 tablets, plus desktops/laptops, I have to use one that can sync across multiple devices.
And why? ?
I'm using Facebook messenger app. Crazy, I know.
The Why: Because I already have it for the occasional FB message, so I thought I would give it a try. It's not bad, and I like the chat heads. I don't share anything too personal over it, so I'm not concerned. One day I might stop being lazy and try some others out.
Google Messages works a treat for my usage...
Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends
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Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends
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Exactly the same... ?
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Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends
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I use Google Messages right now but I do miss the customization that Textra offered and how fast and smooth it is but the one major thing that prevents me from using it every time is the lack of archiving message threads feature that text apps like pulse and messages have. It keeps me away cause sometimes I want to delete a message thread but often times I just want to archive it cause there may be images, information, or just the fact that I want to see my text history with that person. Which Textra would add this feature instead of just the deleting the whole thread.
Textra here too
Fast and simple and heavily customisable
Whats app, facebook messenger.
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I use Google Messages right now but I do miss the customization that Textra offered and how fast and smooth it is but the one major thing that prevents me from using it every time is the lack of archiving message threads feature that text apps like pulse and messages have. It keeps me away cause sometimes I want to delete a message thread but often times I just want to archive it cause there may be images, information, or just the fact that I want to see my text history with that person. Which Textra would add this feature instead of just the deleting the whole thread.
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Yes I agree I gave it 3 stars and mentioned this in my review to the developer. I told them it would be a 5 star if there was a way to backup and restore or archive them as to not lose them from phone to phone or in cases you need to data reset your phone. They responded to me and said they would look into it and nothing... this was about 2 years ago.
Textra is love, Textra is life, no other compromise.
Google messages. I have used textra alot before. But just switched to Google and it's been smooth and exactly what I need.
Google Messages for me.
Smooth, useful features, and web messaging from other devices.
As a non US résident, I don't have access to those fancy text apps nevermind to a supercharged network !
Hence, where I am from, texting is a thing of the past!
I use Telegram which is, in my opinion, light years ahead it's competition in terms of features and one of the last really secure platform there is! (Among with signal)
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Google messages, Whatsapps and Telegram.
Used to use textra, then chompsms, now pulse.
I got tired of backing up my messages when changing phones (I switch between 3 at least once a week.)
Pulse auto syncs messages and restores automatically upon a new login.
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You guys use text messaging? Damn...
It's 2019, use Signal.
Using Google messages, simple, works for me and has a web client for the rare time I don't have my phone next to me
Textra
Great app no issues
Using the stock messaging app for the time being but considering moving to google messaging app because of the web client, which was very convenient back when I had my Nokia 6.1
Textra , it's awesome!
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I've had my ViVO fold for about 3 weeks now, and have everything working except I can't get the notification dot to appear in the corner of my text and Gmail widgets.
I have shuffled the bloatware onto the last page, and combined most of it into a bloatware folder, so I never see it, and implemented the phone entirely with Play store apps. I use native Google apps for Gmail and text, drive, docs, sheets, etc, and everything works fine except I have to access Gmail and messages, to see if I have any new emails or texts. I use T-Mobile and it worked fine from day one.
I have been reading XDA threads as a guest since I got my fold. I have seen the general discussion about vivo fold issues, but can't find it anymore.
What asking you for?
Mostly, I am reporting my experience of treating it like a regular Android phone, and ignoring the vivo stuff.
The only question I was asking was how to get the notification. On my Gmail and messages icon.
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Mostly, I am reporting my experience of treating it like a regular Android phone, and ignoring the vivo stuff.
The only question I was asking was how to get the notification. On my Gmail and messages icon.
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You should use just the stock message app which works fine with notifications and dual Colin display etc. no real advantage to using Google message and the scaling is way too huge. Does your Wi-Fi calling work? Mine is turned on but doesn’t work.
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You should use just the stock message app which works fine with notifications and dual Colin display etc. no real advantage to using Google message and the scaling is way too huge. Does your Wi-Fi calling work? Mine is turned on but doesn’t work.
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Got it, thank you
I have the same problem with my facebook and gmail notification, I tried many tip but still no luck