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Hello,
I have an AT&T Moto X, It's sim-unlocked so I have a different carrier (you can check my details on my profile). The condition in which I got this phone is:
It's running a 4.2.2 Rogers CA rom.
Can I update this to a 4.4.2 AT&T rom and still use my phone?
Or am I screwed and stuck with 4.2.2 (because obv the system update says that there is no update avl. at this time).
And.. How do I remove the Google bloatware from my rom? I've tried ES Root Explorer, TiBu, but they reappear when I reboot.
I prefer have a rom without any bloatware and mini gapps. But I love the Active Display.
Because you say it is an ATT Phone, but running Rogers CA rom, I have some questions for your BEFORE any advice will be offered...
On the phone go to App Drawer -> Settings -> About phone... What is listed as the SYSTEM VERSION.
Next, what does the BACK of the phone look like or say? Does it have the ATT logo on it? Does it have SMALL HARD TO READ Fine print at the bottom that says a model number? Or did it come with the original box that has the IMEI and Model on it? (the model would be XT1060, XT1053, XT1058, etc)
What carrier are you intending to use it with?
Power off the phone, then press the power and volume down buttons simultaneously NOTE: you may need to have the USB cable disconnected first. This will bring you into the AP Fastboot Flash Mode screen (aka bootloader or fastboot mode). It will say DEVICE IS... unlocked or locked. Which is it?
I am asking these questions to know...
Exactly what model X you have
if it is bootloader unlocked
exactly what rom version is on there.
As for removing bloat, and having that survive reboot, you need to root and disable write protection. The answers to my questions will help determine IF it can be done on your phone, and what process to use.
Rogers also is a xt1058. But unlike the AT&T, it's bootloader can be unlocked on motos site. Also there is no carrier branding.
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Are you sure it's an AT&T phone is my point. ?
KJ said:
Rogers also is a xt1058. But unlike the AT&T, it's bootloader can be unlocked on motos site. Also there is no carrier branding.
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Are you sure it's an AT&T phone is my point. ?
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And that is why I was asking the questions
KidJoe said:
Because you say it is an ATT Phone, but running Rogers CA rom, I have some questions for your BEFORE any advice will be offered...
On the phone go to App Drawer -> Settings -> About phone... What is listed as the SYSTEM VERSION.
Next, what does the BACK of the phone look like or say? Does it have the ATT logo on it? Does it have SMALL HARD TO READ Fine print at the bottom that says a model number? Or did it come with the original box that has the IMEI and Model on it? (the model would be XT1060, XT1053, XT1058, etc)
What carrier are you intending to use it with?
Power off the phone, then press the power and volume down buttons simultaneously NOTE: you may need to have the USB cable disconnected first. This will bring you into the AP Fastboot Flash Mode screen (aka bootloader or fastboot mode). It will say DEVICE IS... unlocked or locked. Which is it?
I am asking these questions to know...
Exactly what model X you have
if it is bootloader unlocked
exactly what rom version is on there.
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System Version
139.12.36.ghost_row.RCI.en.CA
(according to SBF site, this rom is listed as Rogers CA)
I got the phone from a relative, the box imei matches the phone.
The back of the phone has the AT&T logo (a ball), and it says Model: XT1058 and fcc id blah blah
The carrier I'm using currently Ufone (Pakistan).
Says Device is Locked.
Rom is stock I guess? Loaded with Google Bloatware..
Android 4.2.2
Aionism said:
System Version
139.12.36.ghost_row.RCI.en.CA
(according to SBF site, this rom is listed as Rogers CA)
I got the phone from a relative, the box imei matches the phone.
The back of the phone has the AT&T logo (a ball), and it says Model: XT1058 and fcc id blah blah
The carrier I'm using currently Ufone (Pakistan).
Says Device is Locked.
Rom is stock I guess? Loaded with Google Bloatware..
Android 4.2.2
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A couple of things...
I am not 100% sure about the ability to flash the ROM for your model phone from a different carrier when the bootloader is locked... i.e. can you flash an ATT XT1058 with Rogers XT1058 rom SAFELY and successfully. I know, for example, that flashing roms between models (say XT1052 with XT1053) does require unlocked bootloader or it will immediately fail, plus is risky when you try and flash back.
Therefore i don't want to give you the wrong advice on flashing anything and will wait for someone else to jump in.
Until then.. some info you'll need to understand for removing "bloat"
The Moto X is a Google Certified device, so it will contain all the Google Apps, like Chrome, GMail, Google+, Google Play, Google Calendar, Google Maps, etc.That typical isn't considered bloat because most people buying an Android phone want to use Google's services. In the USA, wireless carriers like Verizon add their own bloat like VZNavigator, VZ Tones, VZ Protect, NFL Mobile, IMDB, VZ Cloud, etc., things MOST of their customers don't use, so it is considered bloat. The ATT ROM is filled with bloat of their own.
Moto freely gives out the bootloader unlock code for the Rogers XT1058 on their web site. BUT for the ATT XT1058, the bootloader is locked, and Moto DOES NOT give out the bootloader unlockcode. The only way to get it is the China Middleman (see the thread in the general section).
Unlocking the bootloader makes the difference in how you can root. Once you unlock the bootloader you have write protection disabled. So after you root, you can modify, delete, rename, etc files in /System and the like, and those changes will survive reboot.
If you can't unlock your bootloader, and are on Roms with Android version 4.4 (aka 4.4.0) and below, you can use SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection. But once you get on Android 4.4.2, you lose the ability to disable write protection so options like Pie, Towel or TowelPieRoot, are temporary, don't survive reboot, don't allow write access to /system, etc. And once you have 4.4.4 you can't even root. In other words, if you have a locked bootloader and really want to root and disable write protection, you want to stay on 4.4.0, and never upgrade.
Hey, thanks for replying. Is there any chance that in the near future Motorola may support AT&T bootloader unlocking? I think its a really bad **** move by AT&T to limit us like this. So pretty much I'm screwed with 4.2.2 until theres a way to unlock the boot loader. The China middleman is kinda expensive for me. But I'll give it a try when I'm done saving up 45$
Aionism said:
Hey, thanks for replying. Is there any chance that in the near future Motorola may support AT&T bootloader unlocking? I think its a really bad **** move by AT&T to limit us like this. So pretty much I'm screwed with 4.2.2 until theres a way to unlock the boot loader. The China middleman is kinda expensive for me. But I'll give it a try when I'm done saving up 45$
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No chance we will see the position from ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless change such that Moto can give out bootloader unlock codes via the web site like they do for Sprint, Rogers, Etc.
Yeah, with a locked bootloader, the highest you can if you want write protection disabled is 4.4.0 (aka 4.4).
Solved!
I installed the 4.4.2 rom by the fastboot method described in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread.
Everything works.
However.. I may not be able to use the China Middleman to unlock my bootloader..
my phone was made on "08 - 25 - 2013"
First post! - joined at first to read posts but now have one of my own mixed with a number of questions.
I recently picked up a used Moto X from Craiglist and the guy claimed it is an unlocked T-Mobile version with an already unlocked bootloader. The whole point of this purchase was so I could experiment and learn more about what goes on with phones.
How can I verify that the guy is really telling me the truth about the version? I used imei.info and it told me it was an XT1055. However, swappa.com told me it was XT1053. I saw on some post here that XT1053 matches the T-Mobile/Dev version which would make sense with what the Craigslist guy told me. Both sites claim it is not 100% accurate so how else can I verify actual version? There is no logo of T-Mobile on the back of this device. Is there some serial number lookup database?
This led me to wonder if it's possible to flash different software variants onto this phone? In theory, could I download the images for an ATT variant and flash them onto my supposed T-Mobile version? Apart from the potential of overwriting the unlocked bootloader and preventing me from downgrading versions (from the other posts that I've read here), would the phone work assuming my SIM/network is ATT? The IMEI would remain the same, right? How much of the underlying hardware configuration is tied to version of the software that I flash onto the phone?
Could the guy have purchased this phone to whatever carrier XT1055 matches to - rooted or unlocked the bootloader, and flashed the XT1053 images?
At this point, using mfastboot I was able to verify that the bootloader was unlocked but went ahead and performed the same process on Moto's site anyway (and this seemed to work - did this for experimenting). I then downloaded TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4.3-KXA21.12-L1.21_MR4_CFC to reflash onto the phone. This whole process might have seemed redundant but I just wanted to ensure the used phone that I had purchased matched a stock set of images (minus the unlocked bootloader).
Thanks! Apologies in advance if there was another similar post - I tried searching but maybe not hard enough.
klxavier said:
First post! - joined at first to read posts but now have one of my own mixed with a number of questions.
I recently picked up a used Moto X from Craiglist and the guy claimed it is an unlocked T-Mobile version with an already unlocked bootloader. The whole point of this purchase was so I could experiment and learn more about what goes on with phones.
How can I verify that the guy is really telling me the truth about the version? I used imei.info and it told me it was an XT1055. However, swappa.com told me it was XT1053. I saw on some post here that XT1053 matches the T-Mobile/Dev version which would make sense with what the Craigslist guy told me. Both sites claim it is not 100% accurate so how else can I verify actual version? There is no logo of T-Mobile on the back of this device. Is there some serial number lookup database?
This led me to wonder if it's possible to flash different software variants onto this phone? In theory, could I download the images for an ATT variant and flash them onto my supposed T-Mobile version? Apart from the potential of overwriting the unlocked bootloader and preventing me from downgrading versions (from the other posts that I've read here), would the phone work assuming my SIM/network is ATT? The IMEI would remain the same, right? How much of the underlying hardware configuration is tied to version of the software that I flash onto the phone?
Could the guy have purchased this phone to whatever carrier XT1055 matches to - rooted or unlocked the bootloader, and flashed the XT1053 images?
At this point, using mfastboot I was able to verify that the bootloader was unlocked but went ahead and performed the same process on Moto's site anyway (and this seemed to work - did this for experimenting). I then downloaded TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4.3-KXA21.12-L1.21_MR4_CFC to reflash onto the phone. This whole process might have seemed redundant but I just wanted to ensure the used phone that I had purchased matched a stock set of images (minus the unlocked bootloader).
Thanks! Apologies in advance if there was another similar post - I tried searching but maybe not hard enough.
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If you are using a SIM in it, it is NOT an XT1055 - those are sim-locked.
You probably have a real XT1053.
There is absolutely NO REASON to ever flash another carrier's firmware. It's dangerous and you gain nothing. Stick with your proper firmware - you can already use it on any carrier you wish.
P.S. Look on the bottom of the back of the phone. In TINY print should be the model number...
Thanks! I did not notice that tiny print - it seems to fade out with the glare in normal lighting conditions.
samwathegreat said:
If you are using a SIM in it, it is NOT an XT1055 - those are sim-locked.
You probably have a real XT1053.
There is absolutely NO REASON to ever flash another carrier's firmware. It's dangerous and you gain nothing. Stick with your proper firmware - you can already use it on any carrier you wish.
P.S. Look on the bottom of the back of the phone. In TINY print should be the model number...
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Thanks! I did not notice that tiny print - it seems to fade out with the glare in normal lighting conditions.
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Same, I did not notice it on a white back. Also if it says Developer Edition on the back then it is most likely a 1053 also.
I saw the Moto G EXT on Consumer Cellular website.
https://www.consumercellular.com/Info/PhoneDetails/619
It looks exactly the same as Moto G (2014). Doesn't anyone know the exact model number on it? Is it the same as the XT1064? Thanks.
macaumen said:
I saw the Moto G EXT on Consumer Cellular website.
It looks exactly the same as Moto G (2014). Doesn't anyone know the exact model number on it? Is it the same as the XT1064? Thanks.
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Just got my moto g ext today. I can confirm that the model on the back reads xt1064 , fcc id IHD56QB2 type: M0FBB
diamondjoker5 said:
Just got my moto g ext today. I can confirm that the model on the back reads xt1064 , fcc id IHD56QB2 type: M0FBB
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Hi diamondjoker5 - does that Moto G EXT from Consumer Cellular have much bloat on it?
I'm a new Consumer Cellular customer and was thinking about getting a Moto G 2014 for my wife. I'd like to ensure timely Android updates and was going to get an unlocked phone directly from Motorola. I don't know if Consumer Cellular will slow down that update process or not.
The only Consumer Cellular app that I'm aware of is My Consumer Cellular, which is actually pretty useful for their customers.
GaryP2 said:
Hi diamondjoker5 - does that Moto G EXT from Consumer Cellular have much bloat on it?
I'm a new Consumer Cellular customer and was thinking about getting a Moto G 2014 for my wife. I'd like to ensure timely Android updates and was going to get an unlocked phone directly from Motorola. I don't know if Consumer Cellular will slow down that update process or not.
The only Consumer Cellular app that I'm aware of is My Consumer Cellular, which is actually pretty useful for their customers.
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Only thing I see on here is all gapps, + motorola alert app, motorola assist app, motorola migration app, and my consumer cellular app.
Just got the phone unlocked for $2.19 yesterday. Tmobile sim works without any problems.
The real question is what stock rom do you flash it with?
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diamondjoker5 said:
Just got the phone unlocked for $2.19 yesterday. Tmobile sim works without any problems.
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Thanks for the quick update!
What do you do to get the phone unlocked for $2.19?
The other question I'm trying to chase an answer down on is if apps will be able to be moved to SD memory once 5.0 Lollipop comes along. No one may be able to answer that question until after it's released.
GaryP2 said:
Thanks for the quick update!
What do you do to get the phone unlocked for $2.19?
The other question I'm trying to chase an answer down on is if apps will be able to be moved to SD memory once 5.0 Lollipop comes along. No one may be able to answer that question until after it's released.
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I used one of the ebay sellers that offer unlocking services. They go through unlock scout as the provider. Took a couple of hours to get the unlock code.
PM me if you need more details.
From what i remember, once rooted i was able to use link2sd to force move apps and data to sd card on my previous phones.
diamondjoker5 said:
Only thing I see on here is all gapps, + motorola alert app, motorola assist app, motorola migration app, and my consumer cellular app.
Just got the phone unlocked for $2.19 yesterday. Tmobile sim works without any problems.
The real question is what stock rom do you flash it with?
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supposely the AWS one
Was thinking of one of these for my son. They are on Sears site for $133 now.
How is the data speed on T-Mobile, I think it's more optimized for HSPA AT&T so H2O would likely work better.
Can you provide a link of ebay seller through which you have got Moto G - unlocked ?
diamondjoker5 said:
I used one of the ebay sellers that offer unlocking services. They go through unlock scout as the provider. Took a couple of hours to get the unlock code.
PM me if you need more details.
From what i remember, once rooted i was able to use link2sd to force move apps and data to sd card on my previous phones.
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Can you provide a link of ebay seller through which you have got Moto G - unlocked ?
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Can you provide a link of ebay seller through which you have got Moto G - unlocked ?
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I used this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTOROLA-...G-/151207502909?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123
Took a bit because Sunday.
AWS rom/modem details?
macaumen said:
supposely the AWS one
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Can I request a little more info regarding AWS portion? Which exact ROM/modem combo has it? Anyone who recently got Consumer Cellular model and using unlocked with T-mobile can provide an input? Thanks again.
Just wanted to share my experience to help others. I bought the Moto G EXT from Consumer Cellular and it is the exact same hardware as the unlocked Moto G 2nd Gen my wife has. The firmware/ROM is different than the unlocked version. As others have mentioned there really isn't much bloat or anything too crazy. Some features such as tethering have been removed from the settings and the Consumer Cellular app is pre-installed an you cannot remove it. There were some other minor things locked down but nothing major or intrusive.
I wanted to just get the stock image on there just because. Also since there were some changes to the firmware (like removing tethering) I wasn't sure how quickly CC would be updating to Lollipop and wanted to be able to update as soon as I could. I got my unlock code from Motorola and unlocked the bootloader (which to be clear is different than the SIM unlock code mentioned in earlier posts).
I was able to get the Blur_Version.21.11.17.titan_retuaws.retuaws.en.US firmware installed and everything works as expected; I was back to stock and couldn't find any differences between my phone and my wife's. My only caveat was I was not able to re-lock the bootloader after installing the stock firmware. I thought I would be able too since it would be a stock, signed image from Motorola but I kept getting errors on the phone saying "Failed to validate System Image" and an error on the command line stating "sst lock failure!"
I tried a couple different ways to lock it but never could. I am not sure if I have to get the original firmware from Consumer cellular (I wasn't able to find it) to be able to lock it again, but I am assuming that is what is needed. I forgot to write down the original firmware name was but I know it was different than the System Version that now displays so it must have been a special CC build. Even if I had it I am not sure where I could find it. I searched for a little bit without luck but it is a pretty new phone from CC so maybe with time it will show up.
It isn't that big of a deal to me to run with an unlocked bootloader, but I sort of wish I would have just paid the extra $30 or so and got the unlocked one from Best Buy or Amazon instead of the Moto G EXT from CC so I could lock it if I wanted/needed to.
I got a great deal on the moto g ext at sears for $112(using coupons and surprise points)and $29 shwy points back. The system version is 21.11.23.titan_ccaws_AWSCC.en.US cc, build number KXB21.85-23. The original moto g had instructions stickied in the general forum on how to flash stock firmware without unlocking bootlocker using mfastboot. Could I use those instructions to flash retail firmware for the moto g 2014? Is there stock firmware available for the moto g 2014(xt 1064)? . Any help would be appreciated . My main reason is to get tether option in the settings which is missing from consumer cellular ROM and be able to receive updates from motorola.
@bellj949 Can you please link to a guide that can be used to install the generic firmware on the consumer cellular version?
@edog11 were you able to find a way to flash without unlocking bootloader?
Trekker56 said:
@bellj949 Can you please link to a guide that can be used to install the generic firmware on the consumer cellular version?
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I used this FAQ for most of my info about this process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/wip-frequently-questions-moto-g-2nd-gen-t2875723 - and there is a link specifically to this page in that FAQ - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/restore-to-stock-t2873657. Some of the flashes got errors on the phone but it all worked just fine even though I received the errors. Wish I would have noted all the different messages on the phone and command line for reference. Now I have my phone setup like I want and don't want to have to go through everything again. Once Lollipop is available for the Moto G 2014 I will be going through the same process and will take better notes.
I have the single SIM US GSM Moto G 2014 (XT1064) so I downloaded the Blur_Version.21.11.17.titan_retuaws.retuaws.en.US firmware from - http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36 - instead of using the link from the guide. If you have a different model you will need a different firmware. Remove the battery cover to find which XTnnnn version you have.
As noted above once you do this you will not be able to re-lock the bootloader. Or maybe I am doing something wrong and that is why I am not able to re-lock. If anyone was able to relock the CC version with the stock firmware please share your steps!
Trekker56 said:
@bellj949 Can you please link to a guide that can be used to install the generic firmware on the consumer cellular version?
@edog11 were you able to find a way to flash without unlocking bootloader?
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I think you can use the same instructions given for moto g 1st generation and use the moto g 2nd genetation retail AWS firmware. I may wait until there is a consumer cellular firmware for the moto g 2nd generation available in case something goes wrong.
If someone wants to try, here's is link for flashing stock firmware for moto g 1st generation without unlocking bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
Here is moto g 2nd generation firmware.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
Thank you both. Although I have previously rooted and flashed various android phones and tablets, I think I will wait till there is a strong development community for the Moto G, which will be able to help if anything goes wrong during flashing.
I just hope that once Motorola releases the Lollipop update, Consumer Cellular won't be that far behind. Or I'll just flash it at time if Consumer Cellular are lagging behind in update.
Trekker56 said:
Thank you both. Although I have previously rooted and flashed various android phones and tablets, I think I will wait till there is a strong development community for the Moto G, which will be able to help if anything goes wrong during flashing.
I just hope that once Motorola releases the Lollipop update, Consumer Cellular won't be that far behind. Or I'll just flash it at time if Consumer Cellular are lagging behind in update.
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I sent an email to CC to see if they will be upgrading to Lollipop and if so how soon. This is the response I received:
"At this time, Consumer Cellular does not support updates for any Android phones that we sell. Upgrading the Operating System on your phone would void the warranty."
I'm wasn't sure if they are saying they do not provide support if I upgrade the phone or if they were saying they will not be upgrading to Lollipop. So I sent another email to verify that they will not be updating the OS and pushing an OTA update to the phone. This is the response I received:
"At this time, Consumer Cellular does not support updates for any Android device that we sell."
It doesn't sounds like they have any plans to upgrade the phone.
That is just too bad.
Now I'll just wait till we have the official Lollipop on the Moto G and then flash the generic unlocked ROM. Keeping it stock till then in case I need to claim warranty.
And to get the official updates from Motorola, all I have to do is to flash the unlocked rom as mentioned by the guide by @bellj949 and I will start getting the OTA updates automatically or will I need to flash the Lollipop rom manually?
bellj949 said:
Just wanted to share my experience to help others. I bought the Moto G EXT from Consumer Cellular and it is the exact same hardware as the unlocked Moto G 2nd Gen my wife has. The firmware/ROM is different than the unlocked version. As others have mentioned there really isn't much bloat or anything too crazy. Some features such as tethering have been removed from the settings and the Consumer Cellular app is pre-installed an you cannot remove it. There were some other minor things locked down but nothing major or intrusive.
I wanted to just get the stock image on there just because. Also since there were some changes to the firmware (like removing tethering) I wasn't sure how quickly CC would be updating to Lollipop and wanted to be able to update as soon as I could. I got my unlock code from Motorola and unlocked the bootloader (which to be clear is different than the SIM unlock code mentioned in earlier posts).
I was able to get the Blur_Version.21.11.17.titan_retuaws.retuaws.en.US firmware installed and everything works as expected; I was back to stock and couldn't find any differences between my phone and my wife's. My only caveat was I was not able to re-lock the bootloader after installing the stock firmware. I thought I would be able too since it would be a stock, signed image from Motorola but I kept getting errors on the phone saying "Failed to validate System Image" and an error on the command line stating "sst lock failure!"
I tried a couple different ways to lock it but never could. I am not sure if I have to get the original firmware from Consumer cellular (I wasn't able to find it) to be able to lock it again, but I am assuming that is what is needed. I forgot to write down the original firmware name was but I know it was different than the System Version that now displays so it must have been a special CC build. Even if I had it I am not sure where I could find it. I searched for a little bit without luck but it is a pretty new phone from CC so maybe with time it will show up.
It isn't that big of a deal to me to run with an unlocked bootloader, but I sort of wish I would have just paid the extra $30 or so and got the unlocked one from Best Buy or Amazon instead of the Moto G EXT from CC so I could lock it if I wanted/needed to.
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CC version is 21.11.23 while the retail verions is 21.11.17. Probably that's why you cannot flash without unlocking the bootloader because the phone sees it as a "downgrade"
Unlocked Moto G 2014 is getting the update today. Is anyone with the CC rom getting the update yet? How about those with stock XT1063 rom and unlocked bootloader, do you get the update?
I recently got an XT1900-1 on EBay and tried to unlock the bootloader on the way to rooting the phone. The Motorola site told me that the bootloader could not be unlocked. The phone is carrier unlocked. I thought that maybe since I was attempting to unlock a still-unactivated phone that *could* later be activated on AT&T or Verizon, I might have better luck if I inserted a Sprint SIM (since I'm on Sprint). Is that right, or is there another reason? Though the phone is not marked as an Amazon phone and Alexa is not in the app drawer, Alexa does show up in the list of hidden apps on the phone. Is this enough to make it an Amazon phone? I sure thought I had the retail version.
So if I'm being refused a bootloader-unlock code because of Amazon, would I have better luck with a new Moto X4? They're available on EBay in the Android One variant with Nougat instead of Pie. If I got one of those phones, could I root it and keep it from upgrading to Pie? I see that Android One updates still seem to be coming. The latest update my current XT1900-1 has is from January 2020.
I also have the XT1900-1 version and mine was completely unlockable. One issue with Moto X4's unlocking is that once you unlock it, there is no way to make it as clean as it was, meaning the phone will trip some value and it's just not possible to revert it back to the locked bootloader with everything stock. You can flash the stock ROM and relock the bootloader but the integrity check will fail and you will get Play Store not certified error, which renders Google Pay (NFC) and some apps useless/un-installable. Now, if you want to root the phone, you're gonna have to keep the BL unlocked of course, so even if you didn't prevent it from updating to Pie, you can always flash Nougat back on the phone, granted you have the stock images. If the Moto's website told you that your phone is not unlockable, then there is no way for you to unlock the phone If you get an unlockable version (non-Amazon), you can get the code and unlock the device to do whatever you want with it. Once you get it, you can enable Developer settings and disable Automatic system updates from there to avoid installing newer versions. Cheers!
So, I've seen some posts concerning this and, at this point, I'm ready to purchase and replace the motherboard.
My daughter recently acquired a used Moto X4 (running Android 9 "pie") from a friend and she wants it de-Googled. I can get the unlock data to unlock the bootloader but Motorola says that the phone is unlockable - that would be because the phone had been purchased from Amazon (software variant / channel = "amz"). I think that if the ROM and bootloader could be replaced with stock (which, apparently could be done if the phone were on a lower Android version), I'd be in business but everywhere I've looked says that this is impossible - Motorola must do an amazing job of locking down their phones!
Since I'm just about ready to purchase a new motherboard ($60+ at cellspare), any "dangerous" suggestions are welcome since she refuses to use the phone as-is - can't say that I blame her.
You could try to flash the phone with the stock ROM of the google FI variant, but whether or not that works would be anybodys guess as I don't believe the IMEI would be changed. If you are planning to get a new device anyway, it couldn't hurt to try it and see before you buy another phone. I have the google Fi variant, and I know for a fact that the bootloader can be unlocked on it.
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You could try to flash the phone with the stock ROM of the google FI variant, but whether or not that works would be anybodys guess as I don't believe the IMEI would be changed. If you are planning to get a new device anyway, it couldn't hurt to try it and see before you buy another phone. I have the google Fi variant, and I know for a fact that the bootloader can be unlocked on it.
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I have tried loading different ROMs onto a locked Motorola phone in the past - the bootloader will not permit itself to be overwritten without being unlocked. As I understand it, there's a hidden partition where a copy of the bootloader resides and, with the locked bit set, any attempt to overwrite the boot partition will trigger a check against the hidden partition and will prevent the overwrite.