After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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If you are in the states don't buy the c567 model go for the international one. IS models are not receiving updates as frequently as European model
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The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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The ROMS for the Mate 10 pro aren't perfect. If you want to run AOSP or something closer to it like near stock android, the one plus 5T is the stable option. If you are okay with the EMUI then the Mate 10 pro has better hardware IMO. If you like to tinker with less than perfect ROMS, then I'd go with the Mate 10 Pro but I'm sure the one plus 5T has more ROM development.
That's my two cents.
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Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
The Restless Soul said:
Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
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If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
ante0 said:
If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
javierty said:
hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
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Unlock. Downgrade is free IF possible. For example:
On BLA-L29C432B142 you can use DC. On B145 it doesn't work but can be downgraded using service firmware. B146 or higher can not be downgraded past B146. Build is not the same on every cust, so if you are on C636 the build where DC works is different. But generally it's May patch firmware.
Paid expensive unlock is done by FH and ministryofsolutions. If you have rebranded using FH before you can not use their service (FH Rebrand changes your imei in fastboot).
ante0 said:
If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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My phone has 3 issues with EMUI 5 updates (when it launched for the first time). I made a post about it on my account. I just want a long run phone. Do you think this is worth the money or 5T is better?
Well? Should i waste my time with Huawei again or move on with Oneplus/ google pixel 1?
Actually the Mate 10 pro is an excellent device.. But considering the possibilities of an one plus 5 or 6, I'd not go with Huawei anymore.
Same. Mate 10 pro has so many great features but it is not a long run device. I can see myself changing it in 2 years after Huawei will kill my phone like their attempt with my P9 lite. Oneplus 5T is a great deal for me but the camera is not as impressive like on Mate 10 pro and only has 64gb. The fast charging is pretty neat on 5T, but the long lasting battery on Mate 10 pro is very nice for me too.
Idk which to pick. I can go for 5T for the long run (which may keep me more than 4 years due to development), but we will see what will happen during christmas. Either way, i have the google pixel pinned on my shopping list. If Oneplus 5T 128gb gets cheaper, then i will go for 5T.
Also Mate 10 pro doesn't have the bootloader unlocked, thus the phone aging from outdated software.
Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
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Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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I could had gone for oneplus 5T but i don't want to go change my rom just when i purchase it. Huawei killed my nerves with the warranty. So you got your mate 10 pro too?
I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy. Again, i can buy it but i don't want to change the software just when it was fresh bought.
Mate 10 pro has many features and great design. Also the pc mode is very very cool and it does not need a dock. Also has always on display, which Oneplus 5T has only by rooting it (unless Oneplus implements it). But, as we know, Huawei has terrible software support and warranty as well (warranty being my case).
In my opinion, i think Mate 10 pro is a better value for the simple fact that has water resistance, pixel-like camera, 4k battery and other hidden features, but i have to send my cousin to buy it so HUAWEI won't add anything sketchy in it :laugh::laugh::laugh:.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
I want to hear your opinions about these 2 devices. I want to buy a phone for the long run. This is my opinion. Sorry that the post feels weird, but i am always skeptical of buying new phones, especially "flagships"
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The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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So what should i buy between those 2 devices?
https://twitter.com/HiHonorIndia/status/1184786687135760389
Now it is officially confirmed that we wont get Android Q... Cheers!
It was a mistake buying Honor Play. My previous phone was Honor 5x. It launched with Lollipop in 2016 and was promised '2 years update'. The updates were discontinued after barely 8 months after and I got stuck with Marshmallow. Luckily I unlocked my phone and was able to use custom ROMs to mitigate the problem.
I decided to give Honor a second chance, despite all the controversies. The Honor Play was being offered at a good value after the price drop. It's probably one of the worst decisions made. Obviously performance is there, but bootloader was locked. Still I would live with that. And now this! Wow! Phones with the same chipset (P20) and cheaper price (8X) are getting the update and we are not!
Learned my lesson the hard way. Never ever buying any Honor or Huawei again, and will avoid Chinese companies as much as possible.
I don't buy this story one bit, as it was a similar case with my Galaxy S6 Edge receiving an Oreo update which it never did. And if the inferior 8X can handle the latest software, why can't the Play do the same? It's beyond me really (in case, it's true).
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I don't buy this story one bit, as it was a similar case with my Galaxy S6 Edge receiving an Oreo update which it never did. And if the inferior 8X can handle the latest software, why can't the Play do the same? It's beyond me really (in case, it's true).
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It's sad, but it's true!
You can check other replies from the Twitter page/ Honor Club forums/ Huawei Central website...
This has become basically a scam.
If they relent and push update like they did for Honor 7x I'll be okay. But I'm never ever buying Honor products again.
SO its better to have the latest OS that could cripple the phone as specs not good enough (so they say), then having a older OS on and fast etc phone ?
I love updates and new features, but not if im going to be frustrated with the phone lagging or harder to use
I know what I would prefer, plus it not like Pie is some old old software and suddenly apps wont support it
I'm so done with Huawei.
Finger crossed. I bought two Honor play phones and View 20 and later gave out one Honor play to a friend and Honor View 20 to a girl friend. This source that claims 'low hardware' as the reason for Honor Play not receiving Android 10 is not authoritative to me.
My believe is that Android 10 will come later next year as floated online initially.
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SO its better to have the latest OS that could cripple the phone as specs not good enough (so they say), then having a older OS on and fast etc phone ?
I love updates and new features, but not if im going to be frustrated with the phone lagging or harder to use
I know what I would prefer, plus it not like Pie is some old old software and suddenly apps wont support it
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Agreed. Would prefer a smooth Android 9 experience over a buggy Android 10
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Finger crossed. I bought two Honor play phones and View 20 and later gave out one Honor play to a friend and Honor View 20 to a girl friend. This source that claims 'low hardware' as the reason for Honor Play not receiving Android 10 is not authoritative to me.
My believe is that Android 10 will come later next year as floated online initially.
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The source is trustable. That is the official Honor India page. And they have given this reply to multiple tweets.
The people in Honor support chat has said this as well. Obviously this claim of theirs is a bogus claim but the chance of us getting the update is very dim. There is a chance that regions other than India would get the update but this is very unlikely because the largest market for the phone was India.
It's honor india. They done the same thing with other honor phones too.
Still, after hearing that, i might stop getting a huawei phone and i'm sorry for you all that you got this underwhelming news
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/10/20/emui-10-wont-reach-honor-play-smartphone/
According to Huawei uk on Twitter the final list hasn't been made so still a glimmer of hope. https://twitter.com/HuaweiMobileUK/status/1186233485800943617?s=20
Maybe honor India jumped the gun wouldn't be the first time.
https://beebom.com/honor-play-emui-10-hardware-limitations/
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https://beebom.com/honor-play-emui-10-hardware-limitations/
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Still, a big shame. It's still Honor india so..
Buffy_crp said:
According to Huawei uk on Twitter the final list hasn't been made so still a glimmer of hope. https://twitter.com/HuaweiMobileUK/status/1186233485800943617?s=20
Maybe honor India jumped the gun wouldn't be the first time.
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I thought as much. The most questionable part of the India's Honor tweet is the low hardware reference on Honor Play when compared to 8X that would receive Android 10. It doesn't make sense to me.
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I thought as much. The most questionable part of the India's Honor tweet is the low hardware reference on Honor Play when compared to 8X that would receive Android 10. It doesn't make sense to me.
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In response to an email honor UK said this.
In response to your inquiry, kindly note that the Honor Play is not yet scheduled to receive the Android 10 / EMUI 10 upgrade. So far, the only Honor models confirmed to receive the update are Honor 20, Honor 20 Pro and Honor View 20.
Of course, we are constantly testing the update on other models as well, so there is a possibility that the Honor Play will receive the upgrade in the future. Therefore, we invite you to keep an eye on our official website and social media platforms for any official announcements.
It's ok, the different parts of the company are confused, or there's no control over what their staff post. Best to be sure and only get Android One or Pixel phones in future if you're concerned about updates as Huawei,Honor,Moto etc etc just launch so many phones there's no way they are going to support all of them. It's disappointing when you get a phone and find 14 months in it's abandoned but there you go. You live and learn. No more Huawei/Honor phones for me. There are a million Android phones out there and they're all pretty much the same hardware wise as far as I'm concerned - it's the software that's important. If Google are going to spend loads adding AR or whatever but I'm not going to be able to use it because some dodgy Chinese company can't get its **** together then I'm not interested.
I believe that Honor Play will get Emui 10. Let's just wait and see. All the Kirn 970 devices will get it. Huawei said that there would be more than 35 models getting EMUI 10. But there are only 33 models in the list. Moreover, according to the circled words, more models are on their way so this is not the final list. In addition, Honor Note 10 is not in the list either.
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I believe that Honor Play will get Emui 10. Let's just wait and see. All the Kirn 970 devices will get it. Huawei said that there would be more than 35 models getting EMUI 10. But there are only 33 models in the list. Moreover, according to the circled words, more models are on their way so this is not the final list. In addition, Honor Note 10 is not in the list either.
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I hope so. Honor Play is just too good in its category to let go not updated - when it has a capable hardware.
As i know Honor uk already said that the Update comes in February 2020?!
It may not get EMUI 10 but maybe it will get android 10? ???
Seems like we gonna get it
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Hello, i looking to buying the Realme X50 5g on Aliexpress, but the only available version is the chinese official rom. Has anyone bought the phone with that rom installed? Whats your experience with it?
I have read that since the phone doesn't come with google play services installed and the apps that relies on google ofter fail and have trouble displaying notifications. Is this true?
And have you had any other problem with the device?
Lastly, in your opinion is it worth it to buy chinese rom phones to save a couple of bucks?
Thanks!
Realme x50 5G 12/256 Rom
I see that he is a little aggressive with the changes
In my case, I am from Mexico and I will have to use it in English. Although I see many apps that come in English and Chinese
I have not yet managed to put my Nova launcher or Chrome as main
I like to check all the applications. Then I will try to put all my data
I hope here I can find and solve all my doubts
casiburro said:
Hello, i looking to buying the Realme X50 5g on Aliexpress, but the only available version is the chinese official rom. Has anyone bought the phone with that rom installed? Whats your experience with it?
I have read that since the phone doesn't come with google play services installed and the apps that relies on google ofter fail and have trouble displaying notifications. Is this true?
And have you had any other problem with the device?
Lastly, in your opinion is it worth it to buy chinese rom phones to save a couple of bucks?
Thanks!
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I bought this as the Chinese rom has English language as well as Chinese. I had to install g apps manually afterwards. found a web site that showed how to remove most of the Chinese system apps using adb. Still cannot get rid if Breen (voice command thing) and their own "Apps Market" app. This phone has a much better wifi and mobile signal than previous phone (Umidigi Z2 SE) I will never buy Umidigi again.
This phone (x50 5g) is the best bang for buck on aliexpress. It can be had for $230 incl shipping. does 333k in antutu better than 301k realme v5. same price as v5 better than realme 6/ 6 pro.
has almost every 4g band you will ever need. Just use it as 4g phone since you cant use the 5g bands anywhere except china. has excellent build quality, metal frame, gorilla 5 front and back. 120hz refresh rate. 30w fast charging, image stabilization.
I feel sorry for people buying this phone in Europe. 400 euros seems way to much when you can get china version for half the price. also stupid oneplus nord. why buy that one over this phone? its all the same company anyways. I don't see why this phone isn't more popular. I think its my next phone. like the above poster said, you can install google playstore and remove the chinese bloatware over ADB.
Hi guys,
I have a BMW X4 2021 with Android Auto and I had a Samsung Galaxy Fold 3 paired and works fine, but then my phone died and now I have a Vivo X Fold and you know this one is not compatible with Android Auto.
So please could you help me and tell me which options do I have to buy a very cheap phone (maybe used) to have it only to work with my Android Auto ? I will buy it only for that so please I need something cheap hehe
I have fear to buy a phone and this one doesn´t work, so please tell me what I could buy.
Thank you so much in advance!!
I found a Samsung S7 edge like new and cheap, do you know if this one will work with AA ?, better to ask before because is a little old phone.
You need now at least Android 8.0. Google increased the requirements lately from Android 6.0 to 8.0.
As far as I know, there is Android 8.0 available for the S7 Edge. Therefore it should work with Android Auto.
But do not expect to have it working for very long time. Some day Google will increase the minimum Android version again.