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Frustration from Note 3 to 4? Look here

Ok guys, this is all opinionated of course, but I think that a lot of people (including myself) are a bit frustrated with the announcement of the Note 4, mainly for the lack of changes.
I put together a list comparing Note 2 to Note 3, which was a HUGE upgrade, and compared it to Note 3 to 4. As you can see, the two lists are very different when put next to each other:
note 2 vs note 3:
SD800 WAAY Faster than Exynos 1.6ghz
bigger screen
1080p vs 720p, better colors, 40% brighter
completely new features like air command, USB 3, multi vision, air gesture, able to use S-pen with capacitive buttons
from S4: IR blaster, glove mode,
better camera with new features, 4k video, slomo
Design completely new, new back, flatter front, sides that mimic a notebook
32gb storage, more ram, bigger battery,
taller, thinner, lighter; new integrated camera w/flash, cleaner look; speaker on bottom
LTE Advanced, 802.11ac
gorilla glass 3 vs gorilla glass 2
accessories: s-view cover, gear, wireless charging back, wireless s-view
note 4:
SD 805 (super fast gpu (good for 4k, better thermal design = better battery life), 2x memory bandwidth, faster cpu (15%), much better image processor, up to 300mbps let-a)
same size screen
2.5k vs 1080p, adaptive display, possibly super dimming mode (unknown), "basic" mode to get true RGB color accuracy in Note4
16mp cam with ois, 3.7mp ffc with 120 degree wide angle; side-touch “button”
Design similar; new metal sides, no stitching on back, camera is now split from flash module for heart rate sensor, like note 2, curved edged (2.5d) glass like note 2, small cuts in metal frame like iphone's antenna, black phone speaker grill, ffc moved more to corner, larger home button, edge matches color of phone's front & back
new features: 30 minute super charging, s-pen 2x sensitive, MHL3
From S5:Fingerprint reader, heart-rate sensor, ultra power-saving mode, multitasking button replaces menu button
completely new features: UV+SP02 sensors, fast-charging, bring content from one app to another with s-pen, select multiple items with s-pen like a mouse, pop-up screen, split-screen w/multiple apps, use heart rate sensor for selfies
same storage options, same RAM, battery 20 Mah more but 7.5% better; same integrated microsd/microsim module as note3, not in note 2
dimensions: narrower and thinner, but taller and heavier (N3: 5.95" x 3.12" x 0.33” in, 5.93 oz N4: 6.04" x 3.09" x 0.32” in, 6.21 oz)
speaker on back, camera and flash in 2 different components
LTE-A 300 mbps vs 150 on n3, 802.11ac with MIMO, bluetooth 4.1
same gorilla glass 3 as n3, 2.5d curved edge glass from note 2
like note 3, 3 mics, but improved in note 4; can focus on sound coming from one or two directions
accessories gear vr, Swarovski backs, montblanc pens+cases, samsung ruggedized note4 case, gear s, wireless charging back, wireless s-view
design negatives: taller, heavier, speaker on back; REMOVED: USB3, temperature & Humidity sensor
missing features: From S5: waterproof, ISOCELL BSI sensor, super-dimming unknown at this point; no dual-tone flash like iphone, speaker on back like Note2, not 64bit if snapdragon
unknown:super-dimming mode, PWM for screen dimming which was in note2 and 3, if signal is as good as note2 because note3 signal was worse
sensors (from samsung website):
Note 3:
Gesture, Accelerometer, Geo-magnetic, Gyroscope, RGB, Proximity, Barometer, Temperature & Humidity, Hall Sensor
Note 2:
Accelerometer, RGB Light, Digital Compass, Proximity, Gyro, Barometer
Note 4:
Gesture, Accelerometer, Geo-magnetic, Gyroscope, RGB,IR-LED Proximity, Barometer, Hall Sensor, Finger Scanner, UV, Heart Rate Monitoring, SpO2
I think after compiling this list, I've realized I can overlook some minor things like USB3 (even tho it was STUPID FAST!), sensors and a few other details. At the end of the day, I remember why I pick Samsung: Best-in-class screen, which is one of the biggest things about a pone, top-notch hardware, super fast, great (although sometimes useless) features, geek-friendly when it comes to expandability, removable battery/memory, customizable, etc.
That waterproof omission is going to sting tho :crying: Really was looking forward to underwater pics without a "bag", or shower-browsing online!
The lack of USB3, Isocell sensor and speaker moved to the back are all a step back, but with all these other improvements, I'm sure you wouldn't even notice it much.

Your right, the screen is being given no love, and your right, it is super important. This should be the best smartphone screen ever. Paired with the latest processor, and great S pen features, I'm in. I just hope that there is no lag like everyone said about the G3

Thanks for putting this up. I think you should add that while the Note 4 rolled back to USB2, it was upgraded from MHL 2 to 3. Too many tech sites that do comparisons forget to mention this.
The Note 3 is USB3 MHL2.
The Note 4 is USB2 MHL3.

Dat Noob said:
Thanks for putting this up. I think you should add that while the Note 4 rolled back to USB2, it was upgraded from MHL 2 to 3. Too many tech sites that do comparisons forget to mention this.
The Note 3 is USB3 MHL2.
The Note 4 is USB2 MHL3.
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added to new features portion. Thanks!

My utter frustration is moving the speaker to the back.
No word yet if the sound is better on the N4 then on the N3.

My only complain is move speaker to back.
No waterproof is better if Samsung can't make slim bezel for waterproof phone, see how thick and ugly the bezel in S5.
Thanks Samsung not implement waterproof in Note 4.
I had use few waterproof Sony phone like Z and Z Ultra, waterproof is real gimmick as it won't last long and troublesome on those flip cover on nearly every single port. Please don't add in until you can give slim bezel design on it. Waterproof is real unnecessary.

Andrewtst said:
My only complain is move speaker to back.
No waterproof is better if Samsung can't make slim bezel for waterproof phone, see how thick and ugly the bezel in S5.
Thanks Samsung not implement waterproof in Note 4.
I had use few waterproof Sony phone like Z and Z Ultra, waterproof is real gimmick as it won't last long and troublesome on those flip cover on nearly every single port. Please don't add in until you can give slim bezel design on it. Waterproof is real unnecessary.
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I also feel waterproofing is a gimmick and while this doesn't reflect every phone. A few people I know who have the Z1/2 and S4 active/S5 have issues with the water proofing whenever water touches their phones from freezing, to switching off, to black screens, to unresponsive buttons.

Dat Noob said:
Thanks for putting this up. I think you should add that while the Note 4 rolled back to USB2, it was upgraded from MHL 2 to 3. Too many tech sites that do comparisons forget to mention this.
The Note 3 is USB3 MHL2.
The Note 4 is USB2 MHL3.
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The note 4 when back to using a usb2.0? What the funk ? I really loved the extra fast charging of the note 3. I'm not sure what the MHL is and how it affects charging speeds but they advertised fast charging on the note 4, so we'll see.

I had Note 2 but bought S4 and then Note 3 came out and its seems no diffrent from S4 cus of the 1080p screen , so i waited for 2K and now Note 4 has it so its a 100% buy from me !

I always found that the N3 screen looked fuzzy I couldn't live with it.
The fact the screen is Qhd is reason enough for me give the N4 a chance.

RCJ89 said:
I also feel waterproofing is a gimmick and while this doesn't reflect every phone. A few people I know who have the Z1/2 and S4 active/S5 have issues with the water proofing whenever water touches their phones from freezing, to switching off, to black screens, to unresponsive buttons.
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Yup, cause I own Z and Z Ultra before, I know it is not that effective and needed as advertise.

Att.Fan1982 said:
The note 4 when back to using a usb2.0? What the funk �� I really loved the extra fast charging of the note 3. I'm not sure what the MHL is and how it affects charging speeds but they advertised fast charging on the note 4, so we'll see.
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The Note 4 will have better chraging capabilities than the Note 3. Look what the seemingly unimportant MHL3 actually adds:
The MHL 3.0 specification capabilities include:
4K (Ultra HD): Support of 4K formats up to 2160p30
Simultaneous high-speed data channel
Improved Remote Control Protocol (RCP) with support for peripherals such as a touch screen, keyboard and mouse
Power charging up to 10W
Backward compatible with MHL 1 and MHL 2
Latest HDCP 2.2 content protection
Enhanced 7.1 surround sound with Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD
Connector agnostic – uses as few as five pins
Support for simultaneous multiple displays
The MHL Experience
Home Theater – 4K Movie-Theater Picture Quality
Watch all of your favorite content in 4K movie-theater picture quality from your smartphone to your TV or home theater system. Stop, rewind, pause and play all of your content using the TV's remote control.
Mobile Games – Zero Lag
Play all your mobile games on a 4K screen with no lag, all while the TV provides power to your smartphone for extended game play.
Office – Work Anytime, Anywhere
Transform your mobile device into a portable computer by connecting it to a keyboard, mouse, monitor (or multiple monitors), and storage device to work anytime, anywhere.
Automotive – Touch Screen to Access Music and Navigation
Interact with the smartphone through your car infotainment touch-screen display or buttons on your steering wheel to make phone calls, play music, navigate with the phone's GPS, and more, all while providing charge to your smartphone.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/20/mhl-3-0/
Edit: Also, just to add, as far as I know this is a first for Samsung. The Galaxy S5 for example had MHL2.1.

Andrewtst said:
Yup, cause I own Z and Z Ultra before, I know it is not that effective and needed as advertise.
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that's too bad...what about taking pics under-water? The Note 4 has that virtual button on it's side for taking pics. If it were waterproof, I doubt the button would work, because it's most likely capacitive. But does the touchscreen work well enough to hit the camera capture button? Or you can probably use the volume button to capture a picture, so would that work? Or does it freeze up completely?
Andrewtst said:
Yup, cause I own Z and Z Ultra before, I know it is not that effective and needed as advertise.
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Dat Noob said:
The Note 4 will have better chraging capabilities than the Note 3. Look what the seemingly unimportant MHL3 actually adds:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/20/mhl-3-0/
Edit: Also, just to add, as far as I know this is a first for Samsung. The Galaxy S5 for example had MHL2.1.
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Well 4k support is a big deal now that people are starting to buy 4K TV's to output to and content providors like netflix support streaming 4k (but probably not yet on mobile, that I don't know)

Samzebian said:
that's too bad...what about taking pics under-water? The Note 4 has that virtual button on it's side for taking pics. If it were waterproof, I doubt the button would work, because it's most likely capacitive. But does the touchscreen work well enough to hit the camera capture button? Or you can probably use the volume button to capture a picture, so would that work? Or does it freeze up completely?
Well 4k support is a big deal now that people are starting to buy 4K TV's to output to and content providors like netflix support streaming 4k (but probably not yet on mobile, that I don't know)
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Newer Z1, Z2 or Z3 yes for taken under water as got shutter button. Previous model can only via time record.
Also remember due to the S Pen, really hard to do waterproof, if do then it will be troublesome in taken out the S Pen.

Andrewtst said:
Also remember due to the S Pen, really hard to do waterproof, if do then it will be troublesome in taken out the S Pen.
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Lack of IP67 is my biggest issue with the Note 4. I also thought that it's because of the S Pen, but after reading Samsung response on the issue, I'm not sure anymore. Here's what they said when asked by Android Authority:
Unlike the Galaxy S5, the Note 4 isn’t waterproof – when we asked Samsung’s reps why, they said the Note 4 is for people interested in being productive and creative on the go, while the Galaxy S5 is a more generalist device
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Dat Noob said:
Lack of IP67 is my biggest issue with the Note 4. I also thought that it's because of the S Pen, but after reading Samsung response on the issue, I'm not sure anymore. Here's what they said when asked by Android Authority:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-hands-on-519696/
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Knowing that, I'm also disappointed in the note 4's lack of ip67 certification.

Dat Noob said:
Lack of IP67 is my biggest issue with the Note 4. I also thought that it's because of the S Pen, but after reading Samsung response on the issue, I'm not sure anymore. Here's what they said when asked by Android Authority:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-hands-on-519696/
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Same. I could buy their reasoning for the larger bezels on the S5 due to waterproofing, but why would the Note 4 be larger now if it doesn't even include that?

Missing water proof feature too! Maybe there will come some 3rd party cases for N4 that makes it water proof for short times. The difference in S5 is the existence of a cover for the Micro USB port and a little "strip" in the back cover.

Water proof features are what other manufacturers came up with to try to offer something..ANYTHING... to attempt to steal some of Samsung customers because they couldn't do it on the tech side of things. Forget waterproofing, as it a point of sale gimmick which fails because it needs stupid little blanking plugs ETC.
So far the biggest thing I see on the Note4 that might make my life loads easier is the fast charge which is a really handy feature.
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How do you waterproof a phone with an S pen? I can understand the disappointment some feel but it wasn't a feature I was seeking on a Note device.
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Considering upgrading from LG v20 (some Qs)

I've been with LG about 2 years now and I miss my stylus of the note 3. However the audio quality of the v20 does make an impression.
My concerns with the phone is this:
- glass body, can it take drops? I am getting conflicting reports that it's really fragile and other reports it's one of the toughest.
- battery life, will it last all day without a charge whole connected to Bluetooth? One of the big perks of the v20 is you can get extended batteries which I then don't have to worry about a stupid mid day charge. I use a clip portable speaker at work in which it will be connected to most of the time to play music.
- Camera speed. Does the camera have shutter lag? I've seen quality videos on YouTube and it seems pretty good in that category probably better than this v20.
- the biggest problem I have by far with Samsung is all the junkware they install. Can most of this stuff be disabled without root? (i.e. Package Disabler) I rooted my note 3 just to get it running smoothly but those were better days where root was pretty easy to do.
- stylus performance, is it like writing on paper or is it laggy? My son has a stylo 3 and while it works ok it's not responsive like my note 3 was.
With so many top notch phones out now the choice is harder than ever. Especially since there is no removable battery flagship phones.
Thanks for any comments or suggestions. [emoji2]
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Glass body = fragile. Corningware claims GG5 can survive a 6 foot drop onto rough surfaces 80% of the time. My wife dropped her S8+ about 6 inches into a stool at the gym and cracked the screen. I saw it happen.
GG5 is also very soft. It scratches very easy in my experience. So plan on a case, a good screen protector, and just treat it like...well...GLASS. LOL.
Battery life is very good. I listen to music via Bluetooth earbuds for about 1.5 to 2 hrs at the gym, while receiving text messages, emails, and FB messages and usually only lose a couple a few percent in battery. But I've never left it off charger and on BT all day though, so I don't know. Id say just get you a wireless charger to set it on.
Camera is AMAZING. No lag that I've noticed. 2x OPTICAL zoom, not digital. And the Pixel2 camera has been ported. I love it.
As far as junkware... I'm a Nexus/Pixel guy. I've had a few Sammy's and use to agree about Touchwiz and Sammy apps. Now, I like the Samsung Experience software and the native Samsung apps. They integrate so smoothly, and the exclusive S-Pen features are really nice. But if you have to debloat, a search here will tell you how to do it
I don't see any lag in the S-Pen. I love using it just for navigating, but also for Smart Select, copy and paste ANYTHING, taking notes, etc...
Your best bet is to find a friend with one or go to Best Buy and just play with one. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Glass body = fragile. Corningware claims GG5 can survive a 6 foot drop onto rough surfaces 80% of the time. My wife dropped her S8+ about 6 inches into a stool at the gym and cracked the screen. I saw it happen.
GG5 is also very soft. It scratches very easy in my experience. So plan on a case, a good screen protector, and just treat it like...well...GLASS. LOL.
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To be fair... The galaxy S8 is totally different to the Note 8, and yes the S8 is easy to smash. The S8s corners are so round
However I've not seen this with the Note 8. (But ofcourse glass is glass) it's just the S8 is so damn easy to smash, comparison is unfair
OP - Maybe check out Jerryrigeverything's durability test on YouTube, he does scratch tests on there too, personally I never use a screen protector and have never scratched any of my GG5 smartphones. But that's down to the user really and how you treat it.
I gave my S7Edge to the misses and she's scratched the hell out of it in a couple weeks :laugh:
IMHO though I think the Note8 is hands down the best on the market at the moment, and I'm not hoping much for the S9 but may upgrade to a Note 9
(Pre-ordered mine and had it for a few months now)

I left the V20 to go back to Samsung with the Note 8
My best phone so far by far!
Glass body, I use a good silicone skin the covers the corners with enough buffer that I'm not worried. I also suggest at least a curved plastic screen protector if not a good curved tempered glass although I haven't seen much on the market that actually fits properly.
As for battery life, I'm always near a QC 2.0 Charger at home / office / in car so I just charge when I can. It really depends on your screen on time, that's usually the culprit. I never bothered with a second battery for the V20 and both these phone have Quick charging so invest in a portable Aukey or Tronsmart QC power bank.
The camera has really no lag in comparison with my previous phones: V20 / Note 7 / S7Edge / Note 4 / S4.... It opens quick and shoots quicker, slower with flash of course. Love the 2x optical zoom. I found the V20 to take inferior pictures and the wide angle skewed edges to be quite annoying.
Not going to root this phone. I like it the way it is. I use Nova Launcher which is smooth and trying out MS Launcher currently, also nice.
Stylus is my main reason for returning back to the Note series. I was very turned off with the Note 7 recall so I ended up with LG. The stylus is great with nice software implementation. It's not paper but writes accurately.
Hope this helps.
Larry ( Montreal Canada)
evo4g63t said:
I've been with LG about 2 years now and I miss my stylus of the note 3. However the audio quality of the v20 does make an impression.
My concerns with the phone is this:
- glass body, can it take drops? I am getting conflicting reports that it's really fragile and other reports it's one of the toughest.
- battery life, will it last all day without a charge whole connected to Bluetooth? One of the big perks of the v20 is you can get extended batteries which I then don't have to worry about a stupid mid day charge. I use a clip portable speaker at work in which it will be connected to most of the time to play music.
- Camera speed. Does the camera have shutter lag? I've seen quality videos on YouTube and it seems pretty good in that category probably better than this v20.
- the biggest problem I have by far with Samsung is all the junkware they install. Can most of this stuff be disabled without root? (i.e. Package Disabler) I rooted my note 3 just to get it running smoothly but those were better days where root was pretty easy to do.
- stylus performance, is it like writing on paper or is it laggy? My son has a stylo 3 and while it works ok it's not responsive like my note 3 was.
With so many top notch phones out now the choice is harder than ever. Especially since there is no removable battery flagship phones.
Thanks for any comments or suggestions. [emoji2]
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I came from a V20 to the Note 8. It's like driving a Honda Civic then driving a Porsche.

As long as you are not planning to drive headphones with huge impedance, you should be fine with the Note 8; the DAC is not extravagently mediatised but it is no slouch.

My experience with the RN7 :D

Nothing much. It's really great. The IPS screen when applying Facebook dark mode, text looks kinda like all of them are in Bold and the screen it's really bright, ignore all the measurement, it's enough. Wish I could make it a bit more cold.
The camera glass, cracks easily, even with a light drop from a table to a wooden floor And I notice that the selfie camera is misaligned, not great for OCD
The Snapdragon 660 is still fast for day-to-day task, PUBG works flawlessly, even on Medium graphics + Max FPS settings by GFX Tool. 4G is great, except when I'm inside a room, it quickly returns to H+ or H, olay though. 2 weeks of waiting for xiaomi.eu is short and the Chinese ROM with heavy bloat keeps my RAM full everytime, at freaking 2GB/3GB that I have.
Battery life is f******* awesome, even on the default ROM with 4G on all the time. I chose to play games for 1 hours and ONSC with basic browser, FB and Instagram surfing for the rest of the day. Heavy YouTube consumption though. Gets me around 8 to 9 hours a day without a need for charger, I ended a schoolday with 15-20% left, sometimes 30%. It's great.
Compare to Samsung A9 Pro 2016's 5000mAH with that 652 28nm chip, which only lasts for 5 hours, it's a significant upgrade.
Speaker sucks, however. I'm getting Viper4ANDROID soon. When I'm in shower, I hardly can hear the sound of the music, but when watching YouTube, it's ok dealing with human's voice.
Upgrade it from a 652 with a 5000mAh batt. , a 821 with a 3500mAh batt. is a worthwhile investment. Adreno 512 is better than both of them, not on specs sheet but on my own experience. And debloated MIUI like Global and EU is better, compare to EMUI and ColorOS.
Need more custom ROM though

Yeah pixel experience would be great if developers make it

You shower with your phone lol? Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience with the phone

ttn.threat said:
The camera glass, cracks easily, even with a light drop from a table to a wooden floor And I notice that the selfie camera is misaligned, not great for OCD
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This phone is indestructible according to Xiaomi's durability test /
Xiaomi would never lie :laugh:
Though on a serious note; be really careful with both RN7/P, the whole chassis can be bent with brute force using both hands. The design has a few weak points and will literally shatter and pop apart with moderate force. I'd also suggest using the provided gel case and a glass screen protector AND a camera protector. This'll cushion most drops and a shattered protector is much cheaper/easier to replace than the screen.
For the shattered camera lens you can often find the replacement glass part on AliExpress for a couple of dollars. Use some sticky tape to remove the old lens and drop the new one in place.

Redmi K20 (Mi 9T) VS Samsung A70

https://youtu.be/aJ7H2SN2VsA
If you watched the video you can clearly see that both phones have same brightness level yet the A70 screen looks much brighter and better than K20's screen which is dim and has ugly red tint. Samsung used a a very high quality amoled panel in the A70, the best I have seen in this price range. A70 also has bigger screen, bigger battery, and performance is great. It's downside is the ugly outdated back design and build materials. K20 has notchless display but look how thick the phone is. A70 is much thinner and sleek. I think the A70 is the winner.
I might be biased since I own the A70 :laugh: Still the superiority of A70's AMOLED screen is undeniable and it's the main reason why I choose Samsung phones over other brands.
Bottom line: Not all AMOLED screens are created equal! Chinese phones use cheaper lower quality amoleds.
What do you think? :fingers-crossed:

I think the back of the a70 is really nice and does every thing I want it too just a shame the back srat he's so easy

the mi 9t is 300€ in france or 350€ depends on deals.

Sufyan3D said:
https://youtu.be/aJ7H2SN2VsA
If you watched the video you can clearly see that both phones have same brightness level yet the A70 screen looks much brighter and better than K20's screen which is dim and has ugly red tint. Samsung used a a very high quality amoled panel in the A70, the best I have seen in this price range. A70 also has bigger screen, bigger battery, and performance is great. It's downside is the ugly outdated back design and build materials. K20 has notchless display but look how thick the phone is. A70 is much thinner and sleek. I think the A70 is the winner.
I might be biased since I own the A70 :laugh: Still the superiority of A70's AMOLED screen is undeniable and it's the main reason why I choose Samsung phones over other brands.
Bottom line: Not all AMOLED screens are created equal! Chinese phones use cheaper lower quality amoleds.
What do you think? :fingers-crossed:
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you are probably right. just like lcd screens, big difference between LG and XIAOMI ones.
but at least k20 has gorilla glass 5. a70 has version 3.
it always gonna be a trade off...

thalesbraga said:
you are probably right. just like lcd screens, big difference between LG and XIAOMI ones.
but at least k20 has gorilla glass 5. a70 has nothing.
it always gonna be a trade off...
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A70 has gorilla glass 3

Yes you r right my source site was wrong.
Good to know
Also loving this battery life... way better than s10+

So a70 or mi 9t
I still prefer Samsung a70 over mi 9t
Special regards the display

I have no problem with the back of the phone i'm using a case anyway or after a month i will find tiny scratches everywhere even if the back is metal

Im currently debating between mi 9t or a70.
Which phone has better camera and video quality.
Can someone give me a hand?

Xiaomi mi 9T is the better device to me and yes I have both.

K20 has its disadvantages....
No expandable storage capacity..
Screen size...
Battery life...
These 3 are the ones which made me go for a70 rather than any other phone...

senseijtitus said:
K20 has its disadvantages....
No expandable storage capacity..
Screen size...
Battery life...
These 3 are the ones which made me go for a70 rather than any other phone...
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128GB is enough for my needs
Both displays are fine
Both Phones have great battery life.
I'm currently intersted which phone has better camera/video quality.

senseijtitus said:
K20 has its disadvantages....
No expandable storage capacity..
Screen size...
Battery life...
These 3 are the ones which made me go for a70 rather than any other phone...
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These are not Disadvantages
64gb or 128gb expandable storage is a personal preference.
Screen size is a personal preference screen on the a70 could be to big for some.
Battery is great on both back to screen smaller less battery consumption.
Disadvantage a70 sd675, glastic back that scratches easily, oh and one low speaker I have to crack it to the max most of the time.

dante_99 said:
128GB is enough for my needs
Both displays are fine
Both Phones have great battery life.
I'm currently intersted which phone has better camera/video quality.
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Camera as of now, go with redmi. But gcam support for a70 is very much possible with dev's almost done with source codes...
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hands0m3 said:
These are not Disadvantages
64gb or 128gb expandable storage is a personal preference.
Screen size is a personal preference screen on the a70 could be to big for some.
Battery is great on both back to screen smaller less battery consumption.
Disadvantage a70 sd675, glastic back that scratches easily, oh and one low speaker I have to crack it to the max most of the time.
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Well, plastic back is actually preferable with larger phones because of the risk of accidental drop. And to be honest, a70 performs pretty good as well. And it is perfectly slim and anyone can hold this phone in his/her hand without problem. One hand usage is pretty awesome.
The speaker volume is good enough. But plug in a good mid tire headset, its amazingly good...

General Initial S21 Ultra impressions

My preordered, brand spankin' new Galaxy S21 Ultra came in on Wednesday, and here are my initial impressions (coming from a Galaxy S20+):
- The overall design is really as beautiful as what you see in early reviews on YouTube. The camera bump just melts into the overall design. Nicely done, Samsung! Having said that, as soon as you slap a case on it, you don't really see it.
- It's a bit annoying that the camera bump means the phone won't lay completely flat on a table and will rock a bit. That's something I really haven't noticed with my old Galaxy S20+.
- This thing is heavy! It's only 1.5 oz heavier than my old Galaxy S20+, but you can definitely feel it.
- The screen is absolutely gorgeous. It's cool that you can do 120 Hz at the full WQHD+ resolution.
- The U.S. version definitely does not come with a preinstalled screen protector, just a film that you pull off. I chose to add the ESR Liquid Skin Screen Protector (item B08QJ4XCH1 on Amazon). Yes, the screen has Gorilla Victus glass, which can definitely take a beating, but I like having a basic layer of protection against scuffs, micro-scratches, and the like. I can't stand a phone screen that's anything less than pristine.
- Adaptive motion smoothness works really well. Everything is buttery smooth. I don't really play games on this thing, but I'm sure this makes a big difference in day-to-day use as well. Now you don't have to choose between high refresh rates and screen resolution.
- The official Samsung silicone case is actually quite nice, with just the right 'grippiness'. I got it free as part of the $200 Samsung credit for preorders. What I especially like is that this case also covers the actual camera bump (minus the camera lenses, of course)---something that many other cases, including my usual go-to, the Speck Presidio Grip, don't do; they just have one big hole there. I had already ordered the Speck Presidio Grip, as I do for all my phones, but I may actually use this Samsung case instead.
- The fingerprint reader is much more responsive than on my Galaxy S20+. I basically never used it on my Galaxy S20+, since it was just too finicky, but it's much faster and reliable on the S21 Ultra. Having a more reliable fingerprint reader is nice, given that we're wearing masks a lot nowadays, so face recognition isn't as useful. Nothing beats Smart Lock, though, where proximity to my Watch3 basically keeps my phone unlocked.
- To me, the absence of a microSD card slot is not a huge deal. I opted for the 256 GB S21 Ultra (was only $50 more), so that gives me plenty of storage space (for me, at least). My Galaxy S20+ has 128 GB plus a 256 GB microSD card, but I only used about half of the phone storage and a fraction of the SD card storage, so 256 GB is plenty for me.
- I have yet to play with the camera thoroughly, but I really like what I'm seeing so far, especially when zooming. Having 3x and 10x optical zoom rocks!
- Battery life seems excellent. That has never been much of an issue for me, since I'm typically close enough to an outlet to top off my phone if necessary (in the car, for example). My phone battery rarely goes below 60%. S21 Ultra battery life seems at least as good as for my Galaxy S20+.
- I also got one of those SmartTags for free as part of the preorder. I'm struggling to find a use case for it. I've attached it to my car keys, but that's mostly because I can't think of anything else. To me, it seems like a solution in search of a problem (but I may well completely miss the point).
All in all, I'm very happy with my Galaxy S21 Ultra, and I'm planning to keep this phone for a while (after cycling through several phones in 2020).
--Ron

I've had mine for 2 days now. The first day the battery life was bad but that is normal. Today so far I've had an hour of screen on time and I'm at 88%. That is pretty good. You can see that I will have good sot by time this phone dies today. I am happy with that.

I upgraded from an Note10+ and got myself a S21 Ultra 256GB. I own the device for about 48hours and so far the battery, screen and camera are the main points that have improved dramatically.
Battery lasts me way longer than Note10+ and it only the second cycle
Screen is very sharp and vivid
And cameras,damn, that zoom is amazing
Edit: Exynos model (EU variant)

you're on the SD version, guys? any overheating problems? seems there's a lot reported on Reddit. waiting for my carrier here in the Philippines to get this. getting a tab a too as part of the preorder freebies. excited but that overheating stuff is quite concerning. went with OnePlus after the S3 and it felt liberating . hope i don't get disappointed now

Anyone faced Auto restart problem on this phone yet?
I have faced the issue 2 times in till now.

dutch_in_seattle said:
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- I also got one of those SmartTags for free as part of the preorder. I'm struggling to find a use case for it. I've attached it to my car keys, but that's mostly because I can't think of anything else. To me, it seems like a solution in search of a problem (but I may well completely miss the point).
--Ron
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I intend to use it on checked luggage. I can see it being very useful for that.

maxq1 said:
you're on the SD version, guys? any overheating problems? seems there's a lot reported on Reddit. waiting for my carrier here in the Philippines to get this. getting a tab a too as part of the preorder freebies. excited but that overheating stuff is quite concerning. went with OnePlus after the S3 and it felt liberating . hope i don't get disappointed now
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I have the snapdragon version and haven't had any issues with overheating.

Pls all, provide always what chip in your phone, Snapdragon or Exynos, also what storage did you choose. Thanks.

nightoo said:
Pls all, provide always what chip in your phone, Snapdragon or Exynos, also what storage did you choose. Thanks.
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And if anyone is not sure which chip they have (as they're not aware of the country codes), they can just install CPU-Z from the Play Store (free app - I use it on PC as well) and it'll tell them ALL of their phone's specs right away.

I can't believe I'm still waiting for mine. I ordered it the moment the 256 was available (Sprint/T-Mo) and it's on back order until the 17th at the earliest.

dutch_in_seattle said:
- The U.S. version definitely does not come with a preinstalled screen protector, just a film that you pull off. I chose to add the ESR Liquid Skin Screen Protector (item B08QJ4XCH1 on Amazon). Yes, the screen has Gorilla Victus glass, which can definitely take a beating, but I like having a basic layer of protection against scuffs, micro-scratches, and the like. I can't stand a phone screen that's anything less than pristine.
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Isn't there a preinstalled screen protector underneath that film that you pull off? Look around the front facing lens.

pathaniliyas said:
Anyone faced Auto restart problem on this phone yet?
I have faced the issue 2 times in till now.
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Turn it off in battery settings