Hi folks. The Samsung OEM micro-USB cables fit great. But my LG brand cable and several from monoprice. com do not.
The usb connector itself slips in fine, but the rubber/plastic surround is a totally different shape such that it is too-easy for the cable to pop out.
Anyway, just thought I'd share this. Amazon.com has a vendor of genuine Samsung cables that only cost of few cents more than the generic monoprice ones. I would recommend getting those.
FWIW, my Nokia N97 and N900 charger and USB data cables fit fine w/ my Focus -- I use them daily. I haven't even used the Samsung cables yet.
Michael.
I have found that while the cheap USB cables don't work for sync they do work for charging the phone.
Any brand cable (Samsung, LG, Nokia, etc) will work and they're not that expensive.
Buy cheap ones => what you pay is what you get.
I spent 5 bucks on ebay for 3 mini to micro adapters (since everything I had was mini for my HTC devices) and they work great. They are even 90 degree left and to rear. They took about 2 weeks out of china but no problems yet.
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I have found that while the cheap USB cables don't work for sync they do work for charging the phone.
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it's because you bought a charging cable and not a sync cable.
I have a lot of HTC and samsung cables, the samsung cable are the same as the nokia, when you connect to the pc and connect up, it detects as nokia, the HTC one's looks the best.
they all fit the focus pretty well.
forgot to mention, i too have about 3-4 pieces of the non branded micro usb cable, they all work well.
I have the data cable from my LG Incite. While it charges the phone, it will not sync with my notebook.
I tried those after market chargers, blackberry and other micro usb chargers and they all seem to be ok. My only gripe was with the cheap after market chargers they eventually fall apart where the tip is lol.
The one I got from Monoprice works great...plug into every night.
Stock micro USB cable is the best :|
Working Charger
I bought a "BlackBerry Folding Blade Micro-USB Charger" from Amazon that I had good luck with. I've been using it to charge my Focus at work for about 1 year now, and it fits well.
Hi Folks,
I recently picked up a Galaxy S5 mini for testing as a company handset, and found an interesting issue where it seems to be particularly finicky about the charger used. I haven't seen any discussion about this yet so I figured I'd post my results.
I used the OEM Samsung micro-usb cable where possible (all tests, except yum cha wall charger), and I retested with an oem motorola cable and replicated all results (ie the cable does not make a difference).
I had a Galaxy S5 (full) with me for all the tests, and all these devices charged it correctly.
Galaxy S5 Mini charger compatibility results:
Wall Chargers
Motorola FMP5512A 850mA Works
Samsung ETA0U83EWE (OEM) 1.0A Works
HTC TC U250 1.0A Works
Sprout SACDUSB34AWE 1.0A/2.4A Doesn't Work (both ports)
Yum Cha Doesn't Work
Car Chargers
Motorola CHR-0291 (P513) 950mA Works
Sprout 3.4A Dual USB Universal 1.0A/2.4A Doesn't Work (both ports)
Does anyone have any extra results, or info on why the S5 mini is so particular vs the S5 (full size)?
Galaxy s5 mini SM-G800H charging problems
Hi! I just bought 2 units of the SM-G800H. To my disappointment, I also found out that those won't charge almost with anything other than the wall charger. I used 3 of my car chargers that work fine with my many other phones, and also tried with external batteries with no luck. Also, one of the units seems to have trouble with the GPS not being able to lock in the position frequently. The onl workaraound that I have found is to turn off the phone, connect it to the charger and they turn it back on... it contnues charging but a slow rate. Any help or sugestion regarding this topic will be appreciated.
Finally. I was wondering if the car charger that you mention is this:
Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate
Thanks!!
my experience
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Hi Folks,
I recently picked up a Galaxy S5 mini for testing as a company handset, and found an interesting issue where it seems to be particularly finicky about the charger used. I haven't seen any discussion about this yet so I figured I'd post my results.
I used the OEM Samsung micro-usb cable where possible (all tests, except yum cha wall charger), and I retested with an oem motorola cable and replicated all results (ie the cable does not make a difference).
I had a Galaxy S5 (full) with me for all the tests, and all these devices charged it correctly.
Galaxy S5 Mini charger compatibility results:
Wall Chargers
Motorola FMP5512A 850mA Works
Samsung ETA0U83EWE (OEM) 1.0A Works
HTC TC U250 1.0A Works
Sprout SACDUSB34AWE 1.0A/2.4A Doesn't Work (both ports)
Yum Cha Doesn't Work
Car Chargers
Motorola CHR-0291 (P513) 950mA Works
Sprout 3.4A Dual USB Universal 1.0A/2.4A Doesn't Work (both ports)
Does anyone have any extra results, or info on why the S5 mini is so particular vs the S5 (full size)?
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Hi, for what I've found, I'm in the strange situation as I can't charge my s5 mini with this pocket battery
Mophie Powerstation XL
Compatibility: Smartphones, Tablets & USB Devices
Battery Capacity: 12,000mAh
Warranty: 1 Year Warranty
whether I can charge Ipad, S3, Nokia Lumia, etc
So looks like they limited on purpose this phone to charge with specific parameters (which I'd really like to know)
cleary said:
Car Chargers
Motorola CHR-0291 (P513) 950mA Works
Sprout 3.4A Dual USB Universal 1.0A/2.4A Doesn't Work (both ports)
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Confirmed that the Motorola CHR-0291 works. Many thanks for doing the test! I was also going crazy trying to find a charger that worked.
I went ahead and purchased the DEX for my Note 9. I have the ZeroLemon 10,000 mAh case and I also purchased an extender cable because the male plug on the DEX will not reach the female end of the ZeroLemon case, fully. I then went ahead and purchased an extender. While the extender does "kind of" work without the case, it will not work with it. Without the case, it works, but it shorts out a lot by just tapping the wire.
Not sure if this has anything to do w/ it, but with the ZeroLemon case on, I'm able to use the Samsung cable and connect to my Windows PC and transfer files. I've tested at least one third party cable, which does not work in this instance. I'm therefore assuming that DEX should work with the right cable.
Any thoughts on this? Or has ZeroLemon come out and specifically said DEX is not supported?
ive 3 zerolemon cases (cuz I have 3 note 9s) and i also have the current dex model for the note 9.
the zerolemon case does NOT PASS THRU data so dex will not work. had I known this i would not have purchased the case for the spare note 9 i use solely for dex. i also could not get any files to pass through the case, but i was using the charger cable that came with the galaxy 360 camera and not the stock sammy one. perhaps I should go try again since you were able to pass files....
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ive 3 zerolemon cases (cuz I have 3 note 9s) and i also have the current dex model for the note 9.
the zerolemon case does NOT PASS THRU data so dex will not work. had I known this i would not have purchased the case for the spare note 9 i use solely for dex. i also could not get any files to pass through the case, but i was using the charger cable that came with the galaxy 360 camera and not the stock sammy one. perhaps I should go try again since you were able to pass files....
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I'm wondering if one can get a modded Samsung USB Type C cable to get DEX to work on the ZeroLemon. I don't have the skills to mod cables. I could not find a Samsung Female to Male USB Type C adapter/cable. Maybe there's something special about the connecting pins with Samsung cables? Again, I would "think" that DEX could work if file transfer works. I seem to remember from my old phone something about an extra PIN in the connector. Not sure if this was from the Note 4 or even before that....The DROID RAZR MAXX (which is Motorola, not Samsung). It's worth some investigating. I purchased two other adapters, they should arrive by Wednesday. I'll report my findings.
So Far, Not Compatible
I had purchased three different Female to Male adapters/cables for my Samsung Dex Pad in hopes of seeing if The ZeroLemon 10,000 mAh battery case was compatible. Long story short, so far, it is not, and I give up on it for now. I may try the DEX cable, but I assume I'll have similar results. I was hoping to use the DEX pad so i wasn't limited to only 5 open windows.
USB C Male to USB C Female Adapter Extension/EASTWILD Type C Extender for Samsung DeX, Compatible with Galaxy S9/S9 Plus/Note 8/S8/S8 Plus Macbook air and Macbook pro and All USB C Devices - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074M77HJK/
Plugs all the way into both the DEX and ZeroLemon battery case
Does not charge, therefore no connection for DEX
TUSITA Type-C Extender Dock for Lifeproof Otterbox Case, Female to Male Extension Charger Video Audio USB C Adapter for Samsung Dex Station Galaxy S8 S9 Note 8 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M30824S
Plugs all the way in to the ZeroLemon battery case but not the DEX male plug
Considering the obstruction of some of the plastic doesn't allow it to fully plug in, it does not charge.
UGREEN USB C Extension Cable Type C Extender Cord Male to Female Compatible with Thunderbolt 3 Compatible for Nintendo Switch, MacBook Pro, Google Pixel 2 XL, Samsung Galaxy Note 8 S8 Plus (1.5FT) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074K318JK/
Fully plugs into both the DEX and the ZeroLemon case
Does not charge, therefore no connection for DEX.
I have confirmed that all three adapters/cables tested are not malfunctioning, by plugging them into my charger cable.
If anyone finds something that does work, please chime in.
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I had purchased three different Female to Male adapters/cables for my Samsung Dex Pad in hopes of seeing if The ZeroLemon 10,000 mAh battery case was compatible. Long story short, so far, it is not, and I give up on it for now. I may try the DEX cable, but I assume I'll have similar results. I was hoping to use the DEX pad so i wasn't limited to only 5 open windows.
USB C Male to USB C Female Adapter Extension/EASTWILD Type C Extender for Samsung DeX, Compatible with Galaxy S9/S9 Plus/Note 8/S8/S8 Plus Macbook air and Macbook pro and All USB C Devices - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074M77HJK/
Plugs all the way into both the DEX and ZeroLemon battery case
Does not charge, therefore no connection for DEX
TUSITA Type-C Extender Dock for Lifeproof Otterbox Case, Female to Male Extension Charger Video Audio USB C Adapter for Samsung Dex Station Galaxy S8 S9 Note 8 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M30824S
Plugs all the way in to the ZeroLemon battery case but not the DEX male plug
Considering the obstruction of some of the plastic doesn't allow it to fully plug in, it does not charge.
UGREEN USB C Extension Cable Type C Extender Cord Male to Female Compatible with Thunderbolt 3 Compatible for Nintendo Switch, MacBook Pro, Google Pixel 2 XL, Samsung Galaxy Note 8 S8 Plus (1.5FT) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074K318JK/
Fully plugs into both the DEX and the ZeroLemon case
Does not charge, therefore no connection for DEX.
I have confirmed that all three adapters/cables tested are not malfunctioning, by plugging them into my charger cable.
If anyone finds something that does work, please chime in.
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DeX mode won't work while using the case, because the USB-C connection inside the battery case is not designed to output the data needed.. I assume it is not able to output video...
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DeX mode won't work while using the case, because the USB-C connection inside the battery case is not designed to output the data needed.. I assume it is not able to output video...
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What about the case is it? Is there a missing pin in the connector? Does it have anything to do with the fact that the case doesn't support fast charging and therefore no DeX support or is there even a correlation there?
By the way, yes, it is a very real and weird coincidence that my previous updates were always on the 11th of a month as well.
Update 3 (September 11, 2022):
I used the CalDigit SOHO Dock for a real purpose for the first time. I used its HDMI port to hook up to my 4K LG TV, and I wanted to charge the tablet at the same time as I knew it would be drawing a lot of power.
I used the USB-C cable that was included (~1 foot) with the CalDigit SOHO Dock to go from the Dock's output USB-C port to the tablet.
I tried both the 6-foot Anker Powerline+ II and the 3.3-foot JSAUX cables to go from the Anker 736 100W charger to the CalDigit SOHO Dock's USB-C charge port.
I had a 6-foot HDMI cable going to the TV (I also tested it with a 10-foot HDMI cable just to see, and it also worked fine).
The HDMI display worked fine, other than that the TV cut off the very top and bottom of the image, but it didn't cause many problems, especially with the tablet in Samsung DEX mode. In non-DEX mode, I couldn't see the status bar at all, although using my Bluetooth mouse, I was still able to pull the notification shade down just fine without seeing the top.
However, I had a problem with the charging. The tablet was still losing power faster than it was charging, although it definitely was charging some. I played musical chairs with the USB-C cables and found that the short USB-C cable that CalDigit included, which I believe I had read from their website should handle the dock's maximum of 100W, was the culprit. I know the tablet can only charge at a maximum of 45W, and I know that you can only achieve 45W charging if you're using Samsung's own charger that you have to buy separately, but eliminating CalDigit's USB-C cable out of the equation solved the charging problem. Note that I had hardly touched the Dock since I bought it, except for some basic tests just to make sure it worked, so I doubt if their included cable became damaged - and it was still working for HDMI delivery, just not for a high-enough wattage charging at the same time.
I'm currently using the 3.3-foot JSAUX cable from the dock to the tablet, and the 6-foot Anker between the Anker charger and the dock.
Update 2 (May 11, 2022): Ordered the following:
2x Anker Powerline+ II USB C Cable, USB C to USB C (6ft, 60W) USB-IF Certified Cable, Type C Charging Cable, Fast Charge for MacBook Air, iPad Pro, iPad Air 4, Galaxy, Pixel, and More(Red)
Update 1 (April 11, 2022): Ordered the following:
CalDigit USB-C Gen2 10Gb/s SOHO Dock - Up to 4K 60Hz, HDMI 2.0b, HDR, DisplayPort 1.4, 10Gb/s USB A & USB C, UHS-II microSD and SD Card Readers, Bus Power and Passthrough Charging Support
and
JSAUX USB C to USB C 3.1 Gen 2 10Gbps 100W Cable [3.3ft/1M], [email protected] Monitor Video Cable Thunderbolt 3 Compatible with MacBook Pro, MacBook, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixel and More Type-C Devices-Blue
For USB ports, the dock only has one USB-A port (and one USB-C port available when charging), but I think most of the time this will be enough. Note that the dock manufacturer's site has video and charging firmware updates (from a year ago). I did update my dock to the latest firmware when I received it. As of September 11, 2022, v1.2.7 from December 2021 is still the most recent.
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I intend this thread for anyone to share their experiences with various USB-C hubs they try with their Tab S8 variants, or even what others are looking for in a hub. I'll be getting a Tab 8 Ultra, but it's estimated it'll be another month and a half (~ April 15th) before I receive my pre-order.
Myself, I'm looking for some hopefully not compromised but not break the bank USB-C hub. If a hub had all the features I list below, I'd consider paying more for one.
Features I've been researching for:
A removable Power Delivery (PD - I believe 3.0 is the latest) USB-C cable, preferably higher power for other or future devices, but 45W minimum. I don't like hubs that have a built-in cable. In one way they're convenient, but a) they're short, and 2) if something happens to that cable, you might as well toss that whole device unless you want to start electrically and mechanically modding it. If I find a hub that matches all my other "wants" below, then an attached cable might not be a deal killer, as long as it's a rugged type, and preferably longer but even without being longer or rugged, I'd consider it as a last resort.
Has at least 1x USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 port (10 Gb/s).
Has at least 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 data port or faster. So the device would have the cable going to the Tab 8, a Power Delivery cable powering both the hub and Tab 8, and yet another place for a USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 or faster data connection.
A gigabit ethernet port.
At least one HDMI port.
A MicroSD port - I know the Tab 8 Ultra already has a MicroSD port, and I'll likely keep a card in it, but I still want to be able to access another one natively (not through an additional USB adapter connected to the hub).
It would be nice to have a DisplayPort as well, but I'd consider a hub without one.
A 3.5mm audio port would also be nice. Not necessarily a deal-killer without one, but in lieu of one, I'd require at least one additional USB-C port of any type specifically for using USB-C headphones, although I'm willing to test my USB-A ->USB-C adapter, which works fine with my USB-C headphones on my desktop PC.
I'd prefer either at least a well-known brand (like Anker), or if not well known, then I'd prefer to buy either at a local brick and mortar store like Micro Center, Best Buy, OfficeMax, or even Walmart if I must, or at Amazon.com for easy returns if there's an issue early on.
We'll see if I've forgotten something in this list.
You can safely assume I've already done a lot of looking already, but certainly not uber-exhausted every option.
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https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerExpand-Adapter-Delivery-Ethernet/dp/B08NDGD2V5 is the one I've been considering. I think it checks all your boxes. I have a smaller Anker USB-C dock, but it has no ethernet and I've been thinking of upgrading.
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https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerExpand-Adapter-Delivery-Ethernet/dp/B08NDGD2V5 is the one I've been considering. I think it checks all your boxes. I have a smaller Anker USB-C dock, but it has no ethernet and I've been thinking of upgrading.
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From what I can tell, that one is limited to USB 3.0 (5 GB/s). If it had USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gb/s) I wouldn't hesitate even though it's got the attached cable - at least the cable is ruggedized.
I don't see it on Anker's site so I think it's an old model - might be from before 3.2 Gen 2 was available. They have a model 341 which is much cheaper although doesn't have an ethernet port, and at the same price as that 11-in-1, you can get a newer model that has the 10 Gb/s ports, although no DisplayPort - only HDMI.
It looks to me that the only Anker hubs and docking stations that support at least 10 Gb/s are their model #s in order of the most expensive at the top to lease expensive at the bottom, with the bolded one being the best compromise that I've found so far:
Docking stations - I think the distinguishing feature to separate them from Anker's hubs is that they aren't USB-C powered (I'll add that to my list). That said, I'm not clear if any of them can be alternatively USB-C powered, or at least do so with a limited set of capabilities.
777 (12-in-1) - sold out on Anker's site, available elsewhere but at fairly crazy prices.
575 and 577 (both 13-in-1) - in stock, but although cheaper than the crazy prices for the 777, still fairly crazy.
Hubs:
655 (8-in-1) - Definitely slightly ruggedized built-in cable, in addition to that cable's convenient L-shape, plus an easy place to plug it into to stash when not plugged into a device. Fits most of the bills except only has one USB-C port, which would be in use for powering it and charging your device. Maybe it's possible to at least use some of the features of the device without powering it separately, but I want to be able to power it/charge my Tab 8 and use a data USB-C port at the same time. Definitely a compromise contender. I wish it had one more USB-C port I could dedicate to data or USB-C headphones while still powered/charging.
555 (also 8-in-1) - built-in cable not ruggedized, so to me, not worth the lesser price. I've used non-ruggedized Anker cables before, and I don't recommend them for something that's going to be plugged and unplugged repeatedly, although I do highly recommend Anker in general - especially their ruggedized stuff.
There is also another "old" Anker PowerExpand 6-in-1 with ruggedized cable, but has the two special caveats of not have a MicroSD slot (only full-size, so would always need an adapter), and no ethernet port.
The Anker 655 and 555 are the only ones with a USB 3.2, though you're unlikely to have any accessories that take advantage of that.
Anker 655 - https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delivery-Ethernet-microSD-Charcoal/dp/B09MF6TJLW
Vs the one I linked above, on the 655 you lose out on displayport, only get 2 USB-A instead of 3, and no USB-C at all other than the power delivery input. Maybe they'll make a refreshed version of the 11 in 1 with USB 3.2 at some point.
Pluggable makes a great one that has everything you want including a 3.2 A and 3.2 C port - https://plugable.com/products/tbt3-udz . . . . . . but it's $339!
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The Anker 655 and 555 are the only ones with a USB 3.2, though you're unlikely to have any accessories that take advantage of that.
Anker 655 - https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delivery-Ethernet-microSD-Charcoal/dp/B09MF6TJLW
Vs the one I linked above, on the 655 you lose out on displayport, only get 2 USB-A instead of 3, and no USB-C at all other than the power delivery input. Maybe they'll make a refreshed version of the 11 in 1 with USB 3.2 at some point.
Pluggable makes a great one that has everything you want including a 3.2 A and 3.2 C port - https://plugable.com/products/tbt3-udz . . . . . . but it's $339!
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Yeah, that Pluggable's price definitely is in my "scary expensive" range. It looks like it does require an AC/DC power brick, though, so it's not powered by USB-C either.
I'm definitely coming across some interesting hubs - some even with both detachable & rugged included USB-C cables, but then they don't support any higher than 5 GB/s and/or some other things. I know I expect too much, but I keep hoping to at least find something with all but one of my preferences. LOL!
To think outside the box for a minute, I'm pretty sure I could use two PD hubs, one connected through the other, to get most if not all the features I'm looking for, but I doubt if I'm ready to go down that road of variables.
After bunches more research, I'm leaning heavily towards the Anker 655, at least until/if I need something even better, or something to augment the solution if I really need more ports later on. Let us know if you proceed to get any, and what you think of it.
Out of curiosity, what USB thingee are you plugging in that needs > 5gbit / USB 3.0 speed?
Edit - I honestly like the Anker 555 over the 655. You lose the 3.5mm audio jack, but gain a USB-C for $20 less. Not sure if USB 3.1 gen 2 vs 3.2 makes a difference to you. They're both 10gbit.
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Out of curiosity, what USB thingee are you plugging in that needs > 5gbit / USB 3.0 speed?
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Some of my faster USB-A flash drives, and if I can find an extra USB-C port solution (or use an adapter for USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 -> USB-C 3.2 Gen 2) I'd also like to be able to plug my Pixel 6 Pro into the tablet - if one will see the other properly and be able to access its storage fine.
Another possibility I've been considering is a USB-C monitor. If there's ever a time it would be handy to have an external even larger than the 14.6-inch monitor, it might be most efficient to get one that is both powered by and data connected solely via one USB-C connection. No idea if they make PD USB-C monitors - I'm pretty sure they have USB-C monitors with an extra USB port or two on them. Overkill for just a hub, but would be handy if I really needed an extra monitor.
I do have a cheap USB 3.1 Gen 2 (technically the same as 3.2 Gen 2) male USB-A -> female USB-C adapter. It works great for my USB-C headphones, but I haven't tested its data speed capabilities yet. I doubt, though, if such an adapter would work for a USB-C monitor. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if a USB-C monitor wouldn't work through any hub or docking station that wasn't made with that use specifically in mind.
Pixel 6 Pro's USB port is only USB Type-C 3.1 Gen 1
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Pixel 6 Pro's USB port is only USB Type-C 3.1 Gen 1
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Ah yes, thank you. I think I had read that but forgot. Is there any official source for that information (a link)?
Disregard, found the answer on my own previous thread LOL! https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...en-2-on-the-pixel-6-pro.4350777/post-85815357
@skrowl this is an interesting one, although still doesn't have an extra USB-C port nor a ruggedized cable, but check it out.
Dell USB-C Mobile Adapter – DA310
Dell 7-in-1 USB-C Multiport Adapter - DA310 | Dell USA
Dell DA310 USB-C Mobile Adapter - Shop the widest 7-in-1 ports which offers video, network, data connectivity & upto 90W power pass-through for your laptop.
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What makes any of you think that there's anything in the S8 Ultra pipeline that could possibly come close to testing the limits of USB 3.2 Gen. 1? I think Gen. 2 is totally irrelevant.
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What makes any of you think that there's anything in the S8 Ultra pipeline that could possibly come close to testing the limits of USB 3.2 Gen. 1? I think Gen. 2 is totally irrelevant.
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Although I am motivated to buy a hub as a result of my pre-ordering the Tab S8 Ultra, even if its USB-C port is also limited to 3.1/3.2 Gen 1, I would still prefer a 3.2 Gen 2 hub as there may be other devices in the next five years which would employ 3.2 Gen 2 or faster, that I would also want to use the hub with.
I don't plan on buying another hub for at least five years unless there is a very strong reason to - such as USB 4.0's fastest generations and Thunderbolt 4+ compatibility - if I manage to obtain any combination of devices and accessories that will support the same fast speed.
I can even do speed tests and comparisons if I get a Gen 2 hub, as I have a non-PD/non-charging much simpler USB-C 3.0 hub that I got for free several years ago. For all intents and purposes, USB 3.0 is the same as 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1, and all three are rated at 5 Mb/s. There are so many factors that can affect speed, I'll certainly be curious what the result is, but as I said, even if a Gen 2 hub won't be faster with my current devices' bandwidth limits, that may change.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Although I am motivated to buy a hub as a result of my pre-ordering the Tab S8 Ultra, even if its USB-C port is also limited to 3.1/3.2 Gen 1, I would still prefer a 3.2 Gen 2 hub as there may be other devices in the next five years which would employ 3.2 Gen 2 or faster, that I would also want to use the hub with.
I don't plan on buying another hub for at least five years unless there is a very strong reason to - such as USB 4.0's fastest generations and Thunderbolt 4+ compatibility - if I manage to obtain any combination of devices and accessories that will support the same fast speed.
I can even do speed tests and comparisons if I get a Gen 2 hub, as I have a non-PD/non-charging much simpler USB-C 3.0 hub that I got for free several years ago. For all intents and purposes, USB 3.0 is the same as 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1, and all three are rated at 5 Mb/s. There are so many factors that can affect speed, I'll certainly be curious what the result is, but as I said, even if a Gen 2 hub won't be faster with my current devices' bandwidth limits, that may change.
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Much agree with your forward-looking analysis, and only meant to clarify that the speed advantage isn't relevant to mobile phones at this time. Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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Much agree with your forward-looking analysis, and only meant to clarify that the speed advantage isn't relevant to mobile phones at this time. Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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Yeah, the USB 4 naming structure, even worse than 3.x, is frustrating.
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Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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USB 3.1 Gen 1 is basically the EXACT same as USB 3.0, but it sounds much cooler from a marketing perspective!
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USB 3.1 Gen 1 is basically the EXACT same as USB 3.0, but it sounds much cooler from a marketing perspective!
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And here's the irony: your correction is actually out of date. USB 3.1 Gen. 1 doesn't exist anymore. Now it's USB 3.2 Gen. 1.
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And here's the irony: your correction is actually out of date. USB 3.1 Gen. 1 doesn't exist anymore. Now it's USB 3.2 Gen. 1.
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Not entirely correct. Out of date, yes, as the current spec is USB4, but....
USB 3.1 was indeed absorbed into 3.2; whereas 3.1 had two variants, Gen1 and Gen2, 3.2 has three - Gen 1 for 5Gbps, Gen 2 for 10Gbps, and Gen 2x2 for 20Gbps. Thunderbolt is mechanically and electrically compatible with USB type C, and is compatible with USB 3.1/3.2, but supports 40Gbps.
There's a lot of 1.x and 2.0 devices still in use, and contemporary hardware is still being sold with Type A connectors alongside Type C/Thunderbolt connectors....
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Not entirely correct. Out of date, yes, as the current spec is USB4, but....
USB 3.1 was indeed absorbed into 3.2; whereas 3.1 had two variants, Gen1 and Gen2, 3.2 has three - Gen 1 for 5Gbps, Gen 2 for 10Gbps, and Gen 2x2 for 20Gbps.
There's a lot of 1.x and 2.0 devices still in use, and contemporary hardware is still being sold with Type A connectors alongside Type C/Thunderbolt connectors....
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Disagree, but it's all fruitless/irrelevant as we agree. If not just by mere logical deduction, since USB 3.2 Gen. 1 is exactly the same as USB 3.1 Gen. 1 and USB 3.0 Gen. 1 as previously (hilariously) branded, then the last incarnation of the same tech is the final branding for that generation. USB 4.0 didn't "deprecate" 3.2, it's just the better (and currently almost non-existent) option.
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