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I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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What are some of your cons for the device?
I've heard various things about it, such as there's some faint line down the side of the screen on most all models.
Some people claim that the speak on speaker call sucks.
etc etc. Anything you don't really like about the phone that could be most people's gripe about it?
Mine works great. Nothing to complain about...
pside15 said:
I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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First, fingerprint sensor. I need security but entering pin/code every time I wanted to unlock the phone was cumbersome.
Second, is availability at the time of purchase. It wasn't apparently available with carriers in Canada.
Third, popularity, and community development and support. Galaxy s6 has more users, and therefore, more developers working on its rom.
Fourth, availability of accessories due to Galaxy S6 owner population vs Active.
I can overlook all other points, but missing the fingerprint sensor was a deal breaker for me.
For me, the lack of a fingerprint scanner isn't a deal-breaker. I guess I'm 'old school' or something. Though I understand the convenience of it.
I'm on the edge of picking up this phone, but, kind of worried about what type of specs the S7 Active will have and will it be worth the wait.
Currently with the S6 Active, my concerns are:
No Root (not a deal breaker)
Slowness of AT&T updates (not a deal breaker if ODIN is reliable and we can get timely firmware updates outside of AT&T)
Length of time it's taking to get to Marshmellow
Quality of speaker and using the speaker phone (I've heard that it's not too hot)
Lack of accessories (agree with you on this, doesn't seem a lot out there)
What I don't like about S6 Active:
Placement of the audio jack port. Really should be on the bottom, like the S6
No expandable memory option
No removable battery option (Not really a deal breaker if the battery has no issues and will remain effective for at least 3-4 years.)
Not enough bands to support international carriers and carrier aggregation support to the fullest by having as many bands possible (Not really a deal breaker, as I'll get a few where I am).
Touch-Wiz. Rather to to some stock android OS rather than have all the crap on the phone. (relates to having a root)
But beyond all of the above, the phone looks really really nice and I'll likely pick it up anyways, for lack of anything better, IMO.
I was thinking Nexus 6P, but it's just too big for me.
Nexus 5X, just kinda of too weak for me. (has less bands than Nexus 6P, actually)
I was thinking just a regular S6, but like the Active design better.
Just bought one,for durability, came from the V10 and loving it so far.
Succumbed
Well, I picked up this phone(64GB Version). Got it to update to 5.1.1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this phone is simply beautiful.
The weighting and feel is also very very nice.
It's a quite zippy and fast phone.
So far, on the whole I'm liking this phone alot.
However some points I've come across. Any suggestions or resolutions welcome.
Minor Dislikes:
Forced to see carrier's name on top-left of lock screen (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I'd prefer to see useful icons on the status bar(left-hand side) during the phone being locked.
Notifications Management
└ In order to remove Heads UP notifications, I've had to download an application like: HeadsOff└ Some applications, in order to see the icon in the status bar, the rectangular static notification remains on the lock screen, wasting screen real-estate. There's no way to remove this static notification from the lock screen without adjusting the settings to remove notifications from the app, and then that removes the icon in the status bar.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
Headphone Jack Location (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I still don't see why phone makers are putting the jack at the top of the phone. Many people put their phone in their pocket. The natural insertion direction is the way one is holding it at the time of use, the top goes into the pocket first. Yet if the audio cable/jack is jutting out from the top, it makes it hard to put in the pocket, as well as decreases the life of the cable, etc. (not a deal-breaker, but an annoyance for sure)
Touchscreen SUPER sensitive
└ I've found that the screen is simply overly sensitive to touch and find myself many times mistakenly activating something else, before my finger even touches the screen.└ Currently I do not have a screen protector for the phone, so not sure this will matter.
Other's Pain points:
Speaker Location/Quality
└ While the speaker isn't in the best of locations, I haven't really noticed and sound degradation/quality. It's a mini speaker. We can't expect blasting Dolby 7.1 haha
Active Key easy to press accidently
└ I have not found any problem with this, and I typically don't encounter having this button activated unintentionally with my day to day use.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
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Well, I picked up this phone(64GB Version). Got it to update to 5.1.1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this phone is simply beautiful.
The weighting and feel is also very very nice.
It's a quite zippy and fast phone.
So far, on the whole I'm liking this phone alot.
However some points I've come across. Any suggestions or resolutions welcome.
Minor Dislikes:
Forced to see carrier's name on top-left of lock screen (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I'd prefer to see useful icons on the status bar(left-hand side) during the phone being locked.
Notifications Management
└ In order to remove Heads UP notifications, I've had to download an application like: HeadsOff└ Some applications, in order to see the icon in the status bar, the rectangular static notification remains on the lock screen, wasting screen real-estate. There's no way to remove this static notification from the lock screen without adjusting the settings to remove notifications from the app, and then that removes the icon in the status bar.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
Headphone Jack Location (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I still don't see why phone makers are putting the jack at the top of the phone. Many people put their phone in their pocket. The natural insertion direction is the way one is holding it at the time of use, the top goes into the pocket first. Yet if the audio cable/jack is jutting out from the top, it makes it hard to put in the pocket, as well as decreases the life of the cable, etc. (not a deal-breaker, but an annoyance for sure)
Touchscreen SUPER sensitive
└ I've found that the screen is simply overly sensitive to touch and find myself many times mistakenly activating something else, before my finger even touches the screen.└ Currently I do not have a screen protector for the phone, so not sure this will matter.
Other's Pain points:
Speaker Location/Quality
└ While the speaker isn't in the best of locations, I haven't really noticed and sound degradation/quality. It's a mini speaker. We can't expect blasting Dolby 7.1 haha
Active Key easy to press accidently
└ I have not found any problem with this, and I typically don't encounter having this button activated unintentionally with my day to day use.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
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Add another dislike:
Samsung Touchwiz and how it handles, doesn't allow handling of LED definition.
Unfortunately, Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, have blown up their Touchwiz and made it virtually impossible for applications like Lightflow, to define custom LED colors for applications.
The best that can happen is that some 'workaround' by the author of Lightflow can be used, but that just leaves the Badges and Notifications icons on the status bar for you to clear out manually, after reading your email or messages.
Price to pay to have any control over LED.....
Just one more reason I want root....
I don't know how much longer I can put up with Samsung. I've been with them since the note 1 and it's so bad now. Everything from poor software to faulty hardware. GPS seems like its never worked correctly, no matter what they do. Updates cripple their phones. Their camera has certainly gone backwards in quality since the note 4 camera. The phone is lagging and slow always. Even in safe mode. The battery life is 3 hours at best, which is unacceptable. They force updates now, like Microsoft. They bundle things that you can't remove like facebook and instagram, but make you separately download their media players? That's backwards. The reception is horrible compared to other phones. Wi-Fi drops all the time, even next to my router. It has to warn me every single time I plug in headphones that it could damage my hearing. It has to notify me every single time I open the camera that location is either on or off. Charging is slow. Games shudder and lag no matter what I do. I can remove huge, useless apps like facebook. I can't root because of the locked bootloaders. I can't ever quickly see my new facebook messages because it has to now group multiple notifications and there is no way to turn off the "open chat heads" nonsense. The only thing mine doesn't do is over heat it seems like. That green battery ic9on update with the ultimate new UI completely compromised my Note. T-Mobile won't take it back without paying $50 either.
Samsung seems to have turned their backs on what their actual fans want in favor of being an iClone. Why does every single app and menu have a search bar now? Annoying. The drop down menu and notifications have severely dropped in quality since ICS. Does anyone else feel this way at all? It took me a long time to swallow my pride and get the note 2 way back when. Now I regret that I did. I can't find a way around these issues and no one will help.
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So I'm coming from a 5X that had a nice RGB LED, I was able to set different colors for different apps and could tell from across the room what if any notifications I had - no need to look at it for more than a second or 2 or pick it up or anything. I could then respond accordingly: White - email, probably just spam ignore it; Green - text, get to it when not busy; Pink - tinder, drop the baby and run for the phone.
With the x4 I seem to have taken a step backwards - the screen lights up with the clock and an icon for whatever notification (but I have to be standing right by the phone to see the specific icon). But the bigger issue is it only lights up once when the notification comes in - I really don't need to know I have a notification when it comes in (I heard the chime or vibrate) but I would love to be able to walk away from my phone, glance at it and know if I missed anything without having to pick it up. I'm not sure a world where I have to move my phone every time I come back to it could be considered convenient.
From what I have seen online it described the phone has breathing (pulsing every now and then) when you have an active notification, but this was earlier Moto models - I get just one notification at the time it comes in and nothing else ever. Unless I move the phone - which brings me to the 2nd issue, the sensitivity of the motion sensor, I can have the phone on my desk or couch cushion next to me and just placing a remote down near it or typing the phone is constantly lighting up (even when I don't have a notification) I have the Approach for Moto Display turned off and it definitely has to be moved, but just the tiniest of amount - I get the feature is designed for people that want to grab the phone to see the time and not have to turn it on, but there is a huge difference between the slight vibration from typing on a keyboard next to it vs. actually picking the thing up.
If Motorola/Lenovo is going to want people to embrace Moto Display at least make it so it isn't constantly flashing away for no reason.
Anyway are my experiences the norm? While I would love to be able to turn the motion sensor off for Moto Display my big issue is lack of persistent notification notifying without any interaction from me.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/themes/app-frontflash-notification-v1-7-t3740066
Yea, it's working "as intended". It was a poor choice really to disable the notification LED from the phone. I think it's fine on Amoled displays that can have the breathing without affecting battery life too much, but it's not the case here.
Although I generally like the high sensitivity of the Moto Display. I leave the aporoach feature disabled, and everytime I go by my phone when it's in a table or something I just push it slightly to check the notifications, it's way more convenient than to use the power button and gives more information than a RGB LED.
Thank you both, yes I did some more digging and seems like they did away with the 'breathing' feature.
I'll try that front flash app,
This whole thing just seems a little poorly thought out - disable the breathing so as not to reduce battery life, but make the user pickup the phone periodically which decreases battery life.
I get if they want to do something different than a notification LED but not everyone wants to pick up there phone every X minutes to see if they missed something.
Least I now know when it periodically turns on the Moto Display its not to remind of a current notification its just the stupid motion sensor being way to sensitive.
It is normal. In my opinion the Moto display on the new Moto are not as sensitive as older models like the Moto x pure. You were able to literally wave your hand over the screen to see notifications and time and battery level. However I still love the active display. But I also miss the notification light. But because of the active display they felt like their was no need for led notification. The Moto x4 is still a great handset with features that many people actually use like active display. I have used Samsung and Sony and lg and always had issues. Since the Moto x first came out and bought it I have never had issues with hardware or software. Sure the updates may take a lifetime however Motorola in my opinion is the bear handset for me in terms of quality. It helps tho that even with Android one or Nexus out their that Moto has almost near clean stock of Android than any other manufacturer.
I can see the argument for not needing a LED when MotoDisplay would 'breath' and periodically show the notifications, but now they have done away with that it seems like an LED would really help. That being said I am trying to adjust and get into the habit of nudging the phone when I come back to it.
Hi all,
I recently upgraded from the S10+ to the S21 Ultra and I'm having this weird irritating issue and I can't seem to find the culprit.
On my S10+, if I'm watching a full screen video such as in Youtube or Netflix and I get a text/facebook message/snapchat/etc, I get no brief pop-up, and the notification just goes into my notification tray and doesn't get in the way of the video. On my S21 Ultra, no matter what I seem to do, unless I disable pop-up notifications entirely, I can't seem to make them not come up while I am in full screen videos like they did on the S10+.
I've gone through setting by setting with the phones side by side under notifications, app specific settings, everything and nothing seems to solve the issue. I've even tried to use smartswitch and import all of my settings from my S10+ and it still doesn't fix it.
Did Samsung remove the ability for pop-up notifications to not disturb full screen apps/videos? Or am I missing something very obvious here? I'm sort of losing my mind as I've been trying to figure this out for a few days now.
Thanks all!
Hmm I have also noticed this behavior, it's very intrusive but I didn't realize it was a new thing with the S21 Ultra. I just assumed it was my fault for not configuring things accordingly, but now that I think about it, yes, it seems incorrect that the S21 Ultra won't respect full-screen video playback
My faithful Samsung S5 Mini finally died and still getting head around quite a lot of things as I've only had the phone for a few days but for the life of me I cant seem to get the edge lighting to work...
The phone was on Color OS 11 but auto updated to 12 (CPH2173_11_C.46), unfortunately I never got the chance to test it on Color OS 11 so don't know if it ever has / did work.
If I go Settings > Personalisations > Edge Lighting there is the option to pick one of three colours, this shows an animation of a simulated effect but doesn't demo it on the actual screen.
Found a few guides online but they seem to be for Color OS 11, the menus are different and many options don't exist any more - I have reset the phone phone as recomented when upgrading to a new Android version but this has made no difference.
Pretty sure It's something simple I've missed like some obscure notification setting but compared to the S5 Mini its a whole new level of complex lol
Rather randomly the AoD works fine, just not the edge lighting.
Thanks in advance
Do you have "wake screen when a notification is received" on? This might disable edge lighting.
The edge lighting is poor anyway, it only flashes twice so blink and you'll miss it.
Plus they massively reduced the options in 12 so it's pretty hard to see. Big backwards step IMO.
Thanks for the reply. Checked the settings and got the mrs to send an SMS whilst i hand the phone in front of me, as you said it flashed twice and that was it - looks like a typical case of operator error as I was expecting it to work in a similar way to a good old fashioned notification LED and flash until the notification had been cleared
Will have a look around for a half decent app that offers something close enough to how I was thinking it worked.
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Thanks for the reply. Checked the settings and got the mrs to send an SMS whilst i hand the phone in front of me, as you said it flashed twice and that was it - looks like a typical case of operator error as I was expecting it to work in a similar way to a good old fashioned notification LED and flash until the notification had been cleared
Will have a look around for a half decent app that offers something close enough to how I was thinking it worked.
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Oh no they don't work like that, in my Samsung S10, the edge lighting worked in similar fashion as the Oppo. I would imagine it would take too much energy if it were flashing until you cleared it (say if you get a message while you are sleeping). Maybe AOD is the better alternatives as you can glance your screen and see any incoming messages or missed calls, and even that, they figured it would drain battery too as now they have a setting to turn off AOD after prolonged period of idle.
I wish LED notification make a come back, but I'm not holding my breath for it.
I cant even get the Oppo to edge light. I have an app Always On Edge (or AOE) from playstore. This is worth the effort.
Fully cutomisable. Try it out.
MrGluggy said:
My faithful Samsung S5 Mini finally died and still getting head around quite a lot of things as I've only had the phone for a few days but for the life of me I cant seem to get the edge lighting to work...
The phone was on Color OS 11 but auto updated to 12 (CPH2173_11_C.46), unfortunately I never got the chance to test it on Color OS 11 so don't know if it ever has / did work.
If I go Settings > Personalisations > Edge Lighting there is the option to pick one of three colours, this shows an animation of a simulated effect but doesn't demo it on the actual screen.
Found a few guides online but they seem to be for Color OS 11, the menus are different and many options don't exist any more - I have reset the phone phone as recomented when upgrading to a new Android version but this has made no difference.
Pretty sure It's something simple I've missed like some obscure notification setting but compared to the S5 Mini its a whole new level of complex lol
Rather randomly the AoD works fine, just not the edge lighting.
Thanks in advance
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You didn't miss anything. I've been on Oppo for years, Edge Lighting always worked until Android 12. Now it straight up doesn't do anything and it's very frustrating.
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You didn't miss anything. I've been on Oppo for years, Edge Lighting always worked until Android 12. Now it straight up doesn't do anything and it's very frustrating.
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I'm facing the same issue after Android 12 update on my Oppo Reno6. I have already tried out all methods, but nothing worked. it's frustrating me.