After I upgraded my Nexus 6 to LOS 18.1, I discovered that Android Auto is included in the necessary package MindTheGapps. I am able to use AA via USB cable in my car (Hyunday i10/2017) and I am beginning to like it. Controlling the music player is so much better in the car's big screen!
I tried to establish a wireless connection using Bluetooth, because the AA app on my phone offers that option, but I can not make that connection, and I am beginning to think I might have a problem of understanding this technique. So I would appreciate a bit of help and explanation here.
Without the cable, just using BT, I am able to select people in the address book and make phone calls. The control buttons on the steering wheel also working perfectly: take calls, hang up, volume control. I guess this is some sort of typical old school free hand phone call protocol.
Also, when on BT, I get minimum control over the phone's music player with the steering wheel buttons, *after* I started the player on the phone's screen: next/previous track, volume control.
When I plug in the USB cable, AA starts and I get full control over the music player using my car's entertainmane screen: I can dig around in artists and albums list, and I can do any thing I can do on the phone's screen.
As said before: the AA app belonging to the MtG package offers to connect AA through BT, and I very much would like a galvanic separation between my car and my phone. But I can not make it work that way.
So, my question is: am I on the wrong track there? Does AA over BT work at all? Or do I need to make a wifi connection? What conditions need to be fitted on the phone, the LOS version, the GAPSS version and the car?
Many thanks in advance!
Wireless AA uses WiFi, you can not do AA with just BT. Your car does not support Wireless AA. You can connect via USB and use AA (it will use BT, too), or you can connect wireless with just BT, without AA.
Thanks!
I was totally confused there, because the AA app in LOS offers wireless connection to the car using BT. If I am getting it right now, that option only applies to streaming phone calls and music to the car.
Wouldn't it be better to label that option otherwise?
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I just got a new car and it has a spiffy usb hook up where you can plug in an ipod/flash drive/phone and it will play music off of it. The ipod works amazingly with the stereo system, displaying titles and artist as well as making navigation really easy. The display/navigation is **** when hooking up a flash drive/phone.
It would be amazing for my phone to work the same way as the ipod.
Right now there doesn't seem to be anything like that out. I know that I probably can't change anything with the way the car's stereo system recognizes and plays devices, so that means the hack would have to be on the phone. The only way I can think it would work is the make the phone spoof as an ipod when connected to the car's usb hook up.
I'd like to know if anyone has tried doing this before, maybe on a different phone or device? Is this possible at all, and if so, where would I start?
The phone I have now is a Captivate running Serendipity rom and the car is a 2010 Honda Civic.
This would be an excellent idea for an app. I hope this can be made possible
Have you tried putting the phone in USB storage mode? Either through the standard menu items, or enable USB debugging, and enable it after you plug it in.
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The mass storage thing works for just playing music but it displays songs terribly, usually just by track number and the number (not the name) of the folder, sorted by creation date. It's basically impossible to use if you have more than a small amount of songs.
I just connect the phone to my car stereo via BT, plug the phone into a car charger, set the display to always on, place it in my dash mount to the right of my steering wheel and use the phone to see the Now Playing info. My steering wheel controls work the phone just fine so I can skip foward/back and raise/lower volume. When I shut the car off the music automatically pauses until I come back and it automatically reconnects to the radio and I just hit Play again.
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I just connect the phone to my car stereo via BT, plug the phone into a car charger, set the display to always on, place it in my dash mount to the right of my steering wheel and use the phone to see the Now Playing info. My steering wheel controls work the phone just fine so I can skip foward/back and raise/lower volume. When I shut the car off the music automatically pauses until I come back and it automatically reconnects to the radio and I just hit Play again.
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My car doesn't have blue tooth so this isn't really an option right now.
I'm actually willing to write an app for this, but I'm not sure entirely where to start. The biggest unknown is how the stereo system recognizes ithe ipod and what it sends/receives to/from the ipod.
If I had some starter code where someone did something similar or documentation on how the ipod works of usb I should be able to at least start writing an app for this.
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If I had some starter code where someone did something similar or documentation on how the ipod works of usb I should be able to at least start writing an app for this.
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Probably not going to find that in here.
I would look up what kind of stereo the car has and the technology it uses. I can bet there is a forum out there on that type of stereo. Your probably not the only one with this question.... If you can list the specs i will look into it myself.
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I would look up what kind of stereo the car has and the technology it uses. I can bet there is a forum out there on that type of stereo. Your probably not the only one with this question.... If you can list the specs i will look into it myself.
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The car is a 2010 Honda Civic Ex. I don't know what the stereo system is, it's what ever comes stock.
Welcome to proprietary apple exclusive deals. Do you think the ipod integration and lack of android integration is accidental?
By all means if you can write an app that will make android phones work with iphone docks and compatible stereos more power to you.
It would definitely involve reverse engineering closed source apple code.
Hey guys
So I recently got the Nokia Lumia 1020 after being an android user since day one. Rooted and everything
I have couple of issues and questions that have arise since then.
1. How can I change the search button to bring up google instead of bing? I have read that you have to change your language to Russia but I would not want to do that
2. With my Note 3, HTC one and other previous android devices, I was able to use maps with speech and use the FM radio on my deck together. Android would just mute the FM radio and give me the next direction.
With WP8, it seems like I have to select bluetooth source in order for speech to work, however I can no longer listen to the radio at the same time. Is there a fix/workaround for this?
3. NFC tags.. I recently bought a bunch.. however I noticed that you can't have the nfc tags to change the settings but just launch the settings app? So I would need 3 NFC tags to turn off BT, turn off wifi and enable gps? Seems..... any fix?
Thanks
- Sashi
1: Basically not possible until we "root" the 1020. Maybe if a bootloader exploit is found. Otherwise, only devices sold in markets where Bing doesn't have much presence - such as Russia, I guess - support that option. You can install apps for other search engines, but the button is sort of "hard-coded" to the Bing app.
2: WP7 used the Headset mode of Bluetooth (Hands-Free Profile) for driving directions, but that was built into the OS. Apparently Here Drive can't or won't do that (I consider this a regression, since my car doesn't support the audio profile) so the car needs to be using BT audio (A2DP, I think) to give directions. However, as a work-around, you can of course play media *from the phone* and it should work fine (it will be muted while directions are spoken). Whether you use internally stored MP3s, streaming music from the built-in Xbox Music (formerly Zune Pass), one of many apps (such as Pandora), or the phone's built-in FM receiver (requires that headphone wires be connected, since that's what it uses as an antenna, but otherwise possible), you can have your music and directions both.
3: Yeah, for reasons of their own, Microsoft hasn't exposed any way for third-party developers to toggle various settings directly. With that said, though... There's basically no need to turn either BT or WiFi off; they draw extremely little power when not in use (and by default, WiFi turns off while the screen is off and there's no external power anyhow). As for GPS, unlike Android's incomprehensibly wasteful approach, on WP8 it is *always* inactive unless an app or OS feature is explicitly using it, so as long as you remember to close the navigation app when you're done with it, there's no need to manually turn off location services.
Hope that helps.
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1: Basically not possible until we "root" the 1020. Maybe if a bootloader exploit is found. Otherwise, only devices sold in markets where Bing doesn't have much presence - such as Russia, I guess - support that option. You can install apps for other search engines, but the button is sort of "hard-coded" to the Bing app.
2: WP7 used the Headset mode of Bluetooth (Hands-Free Profile) for driving directions, but that was built into the OS. Apparently Here Drive can't or won't do that (I consider this a regression, since my car doesn't support the audio profile) so the car needs to be using BT audio (A2DP, I think) to give directions. However, as a work-around, you can of course play media *from the phone* and it should work fine (it will be muted while directions are spoken). Whether you use internally stored MP3s, streaming music from the built-in Xbox Music (formerly Zune Pass), one of many apps (such as Pandora), or the phone's built-in FM receiver (requires that headphone wires be connected, since that's what it uses as an antenna, but otherwise possible), you can have your music and directions both.
3: Yeah, for reasons of their own, Microsoft hasn't exposed any way for third-party developers to toggle various settings directly. With that said, though... There's basically no need to turn either BT or WiFi off; they draw extremely little power when not in use (and by default, WiFi turns off while the screen is off and there's no external power anyhow). As for GPS, unlike Android's incomprehensibly wasteful approach, on WP8 it is *always* inactive unless an app or OS feature is explicitly using it, so as long as you remember to close the navigation app when you're done with it, there's no need to manually turn off location services.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for 1 & 3
However with #2, I would like to have my USB that is plugged into my car deck AND driving directions at the same time. With android this is possible... but not with WP8
What? I must be misunderstanding you, because there's no problem at all with having USB plugged in while getting directions. Or did you mean you're getting the music off the USB (you said radio before, which the phone is capable of doing by itself) and hence the USB is a different input that the BT?
My usual approach in my car is cigarette lighter -> USB adapter -> phone -> ripping cable (I'd use BT if my car would do it for music) -> car stereo AUX port, and that works fine for getting both music and directions. Swap out the aux port and the ripping cable for Bluetooth and it will still work fine (as I've found when I had to rent cars).
That's correct, my deck has a Bluetooth source as well as a USB source.
I have to select Bluetooth source in order to get voice directions to the car speakers but if I select USB source the voice navigation no longer works
Yeah, that's a pain. Is there some reason you can't play your music/audiobooks/podcasts/whatever through the phone, though? Yeah, it's annoying to need to change what works, but on the plus side, it's all your media on one fewer device than you're using now.
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Yeah, that's a pain. Is there some reason you can't play your music/audiobooks/podcasts/whatever through the phone, though? Yeah, it's annoying to need to change what works, but on the plus side, it's all your media on one fewer device than you're using now.
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I would like to use USB because that way I can save the storage on my phone for pictures and stuff
Hi Everyone,
I've been looking all over the net for some answers for a DIY Project i'm trying to do.
Basically I want to have buy either ChromeCast or EzCast and connect to my cars AUX double din head unit to mainly mirror Pandora from my Android Mobile (Sony Xperia Z).
The questions I'm hoping to have answered are the following;
1. Can I use ChromeCast or EzCast in my car without being connected to a wireless hotspot or network? Being a car setup, I wont have a hotspot in my car, unless a LTE/4G Dongle, which I don't intend to.
- Will they work by just directly from my Mobile to the Cast dongle?
2. If mirroring Pandora, will the music or the head units display stop when I turn off my Mobiles display? (I dont want to constantly have my display on as that will drain my battery)
3. Which is better EzCast or ChromeCast Dongles?
If someone would be so kind as to answer the above questions for me, I would be greatly appreciative. :good:
Thanks
Not Chromecast - Chromecast requires Internet connection because it's designed to pull content from the Internet.
No. In the cast of Chromecast, Chromecast itself is the device requesting the stream and playing it. Your controlling device is only a control and can be rebooted, disconnected, turn off, etc.
In this case, given your requirement of not having a hotspot/Internet, I would say not Chromecast. I don't know if EzCast is appropriate, so I'll leave that to others.
bhiga said:
Not Chromecast - Chromecast requires Internet connection because it's designed to pull content from the Internet.
No. In the cast of Chromecast, Chromecast itself is the device requesting the stream and playing it. Your controlling device is only a control and can be rebooted, disconnected, turn off, etc.
In this case, given your requirement of not having a hotspot/Internet, I would say not Chromecast. I don't know if EzCast is appropriate, so I'll leave that to others.
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THIS!
He would be much better off just getting himself an LTE Nexus7, finding a way to mount it that is convenient and wiring it into the Audio system Aux Connection directly or installing a BlueTooth Audio Access point to that aux input that the Tablet or phone can connect to.
Many of today's better Car stereos have an Aux input that will override the input currently selected on the AV unit for use with GPS when it detects an audio signal.
And by dong this you can use the Tablet as a GPS unit as well!
More expensive but you will need the tablet or phone to control the CCast anyway doing what you want to do....
You could just buy a mount that is wired correctly and use your current Phone or Tablet to do this.
Or buy a tablet specifically for this purpose.
Asphyx said:
THIS!
He would be much better off just getting himself an LTE Nexus7, finding a way to mount it that is convenient and wiring it into the Audio system Aux Connection directly or installing a BlueTooth Audio Access point to that aux input that the Tablet or phone can connect to.
Many of today's better Car stereos have an Aux input that will override the input currently selected on the AV unit for use with GPS when it detects an audio signal.
And by dong this you can use the Tablet as a GPS unit as well!
More expensive but you will need the tablet or phone to control the CCast anyway doing what you want to do....
You could just buy a mount that is wired correctly and use your current Phone or Tablet to do this.
Or buy a tablet specifically for this purpose.
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Thank god! Cheers guys for the helpful responses, you just saved me alot of time!
Thing is I have an Alpine INA-W900BT head unit, it has bluetooth, it has GPS, it plays videos(not that I've ever used it lol), reverse camera video and the main thing is it sounds amazing! As an amplifier it reproduces great audio. A tablet can't give you that sound clarity and control with the cars audio system/sub.
Annoying thing is BT audio stream though AUX leaves me with a blank display, so I figure i'll try to "cast" it. Atleast this way I should be able to see pandora on the screen.
Maybe the next car i'll do the Tablet DIY similar to this fellow, don't want to spend to much cash on this right now;
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...xXpXfPR6d9YTlrC62eKMkGw&bvm=bv.69411363,d.c2E
For now, just want to mirror or local cast somehow. You're right though, end of the day I'm still going to have to control it with my phone...
Maybe get a Android Smart Box hmmm....
Does anyone know if Ezcast requires a hotspot?
Why don't you use MHL?
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Thank god! Cheers guys for the helpful responses, you just saved me alot of time!
Thing is I have an Alpine INA-W900BT head unit, it has bluetooth, it has GPS, it plays videos(not that I've ever used it lol), reverse camera video and the main thing is it sounds amazing! As an amplifier it reproduces great audio. A tablet can't give you that sound clarity and control with the cars audio system/sub.
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Well unfortunately that unit is made more for Apple not Android....
If you have an Apple device and plug it into USB I believe it will display video for control of the device to the screen. But it seems to be limited to iPod and Music storage and makes no mention of things like Pandora. It would appear from the description that plugging in via USB turns the iPod or iPhone into a storage device that the AV unit then loads files from into it's native music player.
This seems to suggest that no matter what you try to use, you will not get control or anything but a blank screen when streaming it as it will all have to plug in via the Aux (even if you don't go BT).
The limitation is really how do you get the audio into the AV unit..I'm sure it has no HDMI ports on it,
And any Audio Breakout you use is going to connect to an Aux port.
This unit you have appears to be just a generation before mobile data in the car was expected....
kuri_2k said:
1. Can I use ChromeCast or EzCast in my car without being connected to a wireless hotspot or network? Being a car setup, I wont have a hotspot in my car, unless a LTE/4G Dongle, which I don't intend to.
- Will they work by just directly from my Mobile to the Cast dongle?
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Contrary to what has been said, this can be done, or say at least I did it and I am waiting for someone to reproduce my results and confirm.
You can stream from your phone directly to your chromecast, provided you activated the mobile WiFi hotspot of same phone (no need for an external router).
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791313
Please report your results.
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Hello,
I just purchased and installed a Pioneer AVH-4100NEX. So far it's pretty slick. I'll be using it with my Galaxy S6.
I noticed that when I try to disable the Call Audio Bluetooth profile from the phone side, it re-enables itself... like I HAVE to use the NEX for call audio.
I would like to be able to turn on my BT headset and use that instead, without much hassle. There are definitely times where I'll be in the car with other people and don't want the whole car to hear the conversation. It also presents a call quality issue with the far end being able to hear the system speakers.
Do I have to unplug USB from the NEX to make this work?
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Hello,
I just purchased and installed a Pioneer AVH-4100NEX. So far it's pretty slick. I'll be using it with my Galaxy S6.
I noticed that when I try to disable the Call Audio Bluetooth profile from the phone side, it re-enables itself... like I HAVE to use the NEX for call audio.
I would like to be able to turn on my BT headset and use that instead, without much hassle. There are definitely times where I'll be in the car with other people and don't want the whole car to hear the conversation. It also presents a call quality issue with the far end being able to hear the system speakers.
Do I have to unplug USB from the NEX to make this work?
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I would like to know this also
I have same unit, try having headset connected before plugging in your phone. That may work
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I'm bumping this up. With my previous phone (LG V10) I could select which device use to make phone calls, Android Auto device or a bluetooth headset (Plantronics). Now with a Oneplus 3T that is not possible anymore.
AA automatically rerouting "BT phone" to main AA device. That is really annoying.
If someone knows a workaround to this please give advice, thanks...
You have to have it enabled, in a nutshell the unit (Pioneer) declares that it has bluetooth capabilities and declares the bluetooth mac address when it initialize the connection, than Android Auto (trough Google Play Services which is a system app) will enable the bluetooth, set up a pairing if it doesn't exist and connect to it, so no matter what you do it will always connect to it, the only way to "avoid" this is:
a) Get another phone which connects to the Pioneer bluetooth, then connect the phone (haven't tried this, but probably will do the trick)
b) Alter the pioneer unit so it doesn't send the bluetooth mac and it doesn't declare the bluetooth service (almost impossible, you will need to replace the app on the unit)
I finally managed to get Bixby Routines reinstalled on my phone (it was in the Galaxy store and I somehow either missed it every single time I looked, or they just added it). I am using it to send Spotify to my various bluetooth devices while all my notifications play on the phone. I have it set up with 3 devices - an Anker Soundcore, a pair of SkullCandy Ink'd Wireless earbuds, and my 2015 VW Golf. I'm running into some weird issues, though. Note that all 3 routines are set up the same way - IF BT is connected to X, THEN App: Spotify / Audio Device: Bluetooth
1. Whenever Separate App Sound is initiated, either on the previously connected device or a different device, it throws up the "Change main audio output device?" notification, meaning every time I connect to BT, I have to do that. If that's the case, why bother with the routine and not just toggle the SAS with each device manually since I need to interact anyway? When I do toggle it manually and hit OK on the notification, it works flawlessly, sending Spotify to BT and everything else (IG, Messages, YouTube, etc.) through the phone's speakers.
2. With the way the Golf head unit connects to BT, it kind of connects, then disconnects, then connects again, making the phone get weird mixed messages which triggers the routine in a weird way. Is there a way to delay the BT connection on the phone until the head unit is fully booted up?
The only thing I can figure is that maybe I'm not technically following the "make sure you choose an audio device that is different from your main audio output device." rule since when I'm connected to BT, that's the main audio output.