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Does the US, UK or Australia Samsung Pay work on Note 8 SM-N9500 or SM-N950FD models?
Anyone tested or confirmed this? With the S8's seems like it will work if you have the UAE model of the phone and you sideload the samsung pay app (not sure about the HK version). The note 8 UAE model is SM-N950FD which is also a global model so it might work on this if similarly one has the UAE firmware on it + sideloads Samsung Pay? SM-N9500 even work at all?
No one has used or uses or has tried to use Samsung Pay on SM-N9500 or SM-N950F/DS models anywhere? Can't be possible.
I have a SM-N9500, and Google Play claims Samsung Pay is not supported in my 'device country'. But indeed it is supported in the country where I leave and where my Google account is based (and by my bank). As I understand, SM-N9500 is a Chinese version (not my country), and yet Samsung Pay is well supported in China as well.
In any case, it looks like Samsung Pay will not work on this phone.
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On a second thought, did you try to edit build.prop to spoof your device number? The hardware platform of those models is the same as any phone supporting Samsung Pay. So I cannot think for any reason it would not work other than country support.
@younoob
did you try it? did you try different sim card and reset? did you try sideloading Samsung Pay 2.7.03 (apk from apkmirror) and Framework 2.7.51 immediately after reset?
I tried resetting my google play localization, but it did not work. So I failed to install Samsung Pay at all. My problem is, if there is ever an apk that I do not want to install from an unofficial source, that's Samsung Pay. It has direct access to credit cards...
Resetting localization will not work. Sideloading SPay is not an issue now really is it if all you want to do is confirm whether it works to start with or not. And there is nothing wrong with sideloading in general so long as you are careful with your choices.
evangelionpunk said:
Resetting localization will not work. Sideloading SPay is not an issue now really is it if all you want to do is confirm whether it works to start with or not. And there is nothing wrong with sideloading in general so long as you are careful with your choices.
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Resetting localization indeed did not work. N9500 is a Hong Kong and China version. Any exported phone should come from Hong Kong -at least mine is. I am sure that Samsung Pay works abroad as well, no matter the country. So my guess is that if one installs and runs it in Hong Kong, then it should work in other supported countries as well. Isn't it? Maybe one can spoof the location somehow, not sure how to do that without root. Any idea?
As for sideloading, of course there is nothing wrong with it. Just, for something like Samsung Pay, you really really need to trust your apk source. A malicious person may get the original apk and somehow engineer a modification (basically send all the data to a server), and your bank cards AND identity would be totally compromised. At the best of my understanding, this can be done without any need to crack the Samsung Pay security features.
younoob said:
Resetting localization indeed did not work. N9500 is a Hong Kong and China version. Any exported phone should come from Hong Kong -at least mine is. I am sure that Samsung Pay works abroad as well, no matter the country. So my guess is that if one installs and runs it in Hong Kong, then it should work in other supported countries as well. Isn't it? Maybe one can spoof the location somehow, not sure how to do that without root. Any idea?
As for sideloading, of course there is nothing wrong with it. Just, for something like Samsung Pay, you really really need to trust your apk source. A malicious person may get the original apk and somehow engineer a modification (basically send all the data to a server), and your bank cards AND identity would be totally compromised. At the best of my understanding, this can be done without any need to crack the Samsung Pay security features.
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Well according to what I read and some I asked, no. Samsung Pay may be localised via the model number and active sim card on first boot. You managed to spoof the model number?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/how-add-samsung-pay-to-sm-g950fd-dual-t3600699
You will see in above thread that the exynos model with XSG firmware is able to have the framework and samsung pay sideloaded and it works with US cards. On the Note 8's this likely means we can buy any SM-N950F/DS and do the same whereas the SM-N9500 SPay would work in HK and apparently if I read correctly HK has some more advanced SPay features... Now if only Samsung would release a 128 or 256gb mode of SM-N950F/DS already!
Actually changing the location in payments.google.com partly worked. I located myself in Hong Kong, then cleared Google Play data and rebooted the app. It took more than one day for Google to update the status, but now Samsung pay just appeared as one of my (preloaded) apps. Yet, basically only American Express will work worlwide (and Hong Kong cards). On the good side, you can successfully upload all the fidelity cards and other magnetic cards that are not related to your banks.
I did not spoof the model since the last time I checked taking root on Qualcomm note 8 looked risky and N9500 is not even mentioned in the thread. Did you get root?
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But I have a 128gb model, and where I live Samsung did not yet realise 128gb official models
younoob said:
Actually changing the location in payments.google.com partly worked. I located myself in Hong Kong, then cleared Google Play data and rebooted the app. It took more than one day for Google to update the status, but now Samsung pay just appeared as one of my (preloaded) apps. Yet, basically only American Express will work worlwide (and Hong Kong cards). On the good side, you can successfully upload all the fidelity cards and other magnetic cards that are not related to your banks.
I did not spoof the model since the last time I checked taking root on Qualcomm note 8 looked risky and N9500 is not even mentioned in the thread. Did you get root?
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But I have a 128gb model, and where I live Samsung did not yet realise 128gb official models
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Not surprised that work as you got a HK model and enabled SPay HK. See if the same is possible for US or your own country.
A root was released just few days ago for qualcomm models that will not trip knox apparently but charge shows 80% or something.
Did you root? As they do not mention N9500 in that thread
I have 9500 hk version. It had samsung pay preloaded. My location is taiwan and using taiwan sim. When i open samsung pay it had a restore previous card option. (i used samsung pay on a previous samsung phone) i restored it but had to activate the card again. Have used it here in taiwan and no problem. The only downside is promotions on the app and store membership cards are all still hong kong.
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Just flash XSA unlocked Australian firmware. Just bought a SM-N950F/DS and it has a limited version of Samsung Pay that works just like it did on my S8 950F and my S7 Edge 935F. Don't be in a hurry for updates on XSA still on August security patch but white pages works.
Panzerapple said:
Just flash XSA unlocked Australian firmware. Just bought a SM-N950F/DS and it has a limited version of Samsung Pay that works just like it did on my S8 950F and my S7 Edge 935F. Don't be in a hurry for updates on XSA still on August security patch but white pages works.
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Can't flash XSA on N9500. What do you mean by limited version of Samsung Pay on your SM-N950F/DS? What cards/banks are working on it and what aren't?
evangelionpunk said:
Can't flash XSA on N9500. What do you mean by limited version of Samsung Pay on your SM-N950F/DS? What cards/banks are working on it and what aren't?
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I am sorry I thought you were looking for answer for either model so I posted regarding my experiences with the F model.
Samsung Pay features work off of your devices CSC. When I first set up my Samsung Pay account it was on a S6 Active obviously a US Model. With that said my F model devices have Samsung Pay with MST support, Membership Cards and that is it for options that I can us in the US. So I get Australian promotions not US promotions on and no rewards or gift cards. I still get rewards points when I use my F models but I have to access them through my ATT Note 5 or see the points through my Gear App for my Gear S3. Basically a huge cluster f#ck and hopefully they will make Samsung Pay dependent on your SIM not your CSC I highly doubt it though.
I have a Citi Visa and Citi MC on my phone and Gear S3. Samsung did change things around so you can import cards which worked on my Note 8. When I moved from my S6 Active to S7 Edge F model I had to setup all the cards and they worked. So the guess off the top my head would be any card that currently supports Samsung Pay should work but it is Samsung Pay so it is a guess.
Panzerapple said:
With that said my F model devices have Samsung Pay with MST support, Membership Cards and that is it for options that I can us in the US. So I get Australian promotions not US promotions on and no rewards or gift cards.
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Have you tried the XSG firmware method that apparently is reporting success? Appears to involve flashing XSG and then sideloading framework and samsung pay app after which supposedly everything works fine.
evangelionpunk said:
Have you tried the XSG firmware method that apparently is reporting success? Appears to involve flashing XSG and then sideloading framework and samsung pay app after which supposedly everything works fine.
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Ran XSG on my S7 Edge for a while and flashed XSA. XSG you get the Ramadan calendar, no white pages and you have to screw around side loading and worry about an update breaking it. That is why I gave up on XSG it updated and broke my work around . Unless something has changed I don't recall having rewards or gift cards but that might have changed. XSA is just flash and your done Samsung pay updates with no issues. For me I need a backup device so to get all Samsung Pay features it is just as easy firing up my Note 5 to access them.
Panzerapple said:
Ran XSG on my S7 Edge for a while and flashed XSA. XSG you get the Ramadan calendar, no white pages and you have to screw around side loading and worry about an update breaking it. That is why I gave up on XSG it updated and broke my work around . Unless something has changed I don't recall having rewards or gift cards but that might have changed. XSA is just flash and your done Samsung pay updates with no issues. For me I need a backup device so to get all Samsung Pay features it is just as easy firing up my Note 5 to access them.
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On XSG you couldn't sideload white pages? What firmware are you running on your note 8?
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On XSG you couldn't sideload white pages? What firmware are you running on your note 8?
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White pages is CSC dependent also. It's cooked into all the firmware and you can find it and try activating it through a Nova activity but it would never work. You can download Hiya apk which white pages is built off of but it doesn't integrate with the system like white pages does. I have fiddled with so many firmwares and Samsung Pay and Framework apk just got sick of experimenting.Running XSA and happy with the firmware and my Note 8. And if am wrong on anything I have said someone please correct me because I would like to know.
I can use Samsung Pay on my non-rooted SM-N950F/DS on AT&T as well as GoogleFi.
Hi,
Im from Mexico and I just bought an unlocked Note 8 from amazon(sprint version) because it was really cheap ($650 USD) , i flashed the unlocked rom and now i want to use Samsung Pay which has just been launched in my country but because my phone is from the US i not able to make it work with my cards (as expected). My question is: I have a US Note 8 (Snapdragon) my country is Exynos only so i cant flash the local rom but could i flash only the home CSC from the unlocked Mexican rom to enable samsung pay?
As several threads mentioned Samsung pay is running based on the CSC, I have similar request with you, just want to add different cards from two country
Hello did you got it to work?
I've got a Hong Kong N9500 and have been happily using Samsung Pay in the UK for the last 2 weeks no problems.
The only drawback is that you won't get the local offers and vouchers etc but the card payments work perfectly fine
Hello,
I have bought branded s10 - Vodafone UK. I will change CSC code to remove Vodafone branding from device and I am going to use Samkey. I live in Great Britain so default csc code for my region is XEU. I am familiar with Samsung and years ago I made a research and case looks a little bit complicated. New phones sold directly from Samsung come with BTU csc code, but phones from resellers come with XEU csc. Additionally I experienced on s9 that in Odin flashing BTU resulted XEU. Very strange. There are a lot of threads with question about difference between XEU and BTU with always the same answer - it depends from where phone come. That's quite simple however still very strange.
Anybody has never explain what's the difference in software and services between XEU and BTU. What's the real difference between both of them?
Should I flash XEU or BTU? And why XEU or BTU?
If I know any other country doesn't have more than one csc for non branded Samsung's. Why Samsung released two different csc for UK?
It's really strange. Currently changing csc in samkey require credit so there is no sense check all csc just to see how them works. If you have knowledge what's going on please explain that.
Grimm-reaper said:
Hello,
I have bought branded s10 - Vodafone UK. I will change CSC code to remove Vodafone branding from device and I am going to use Samkey. I live in Great Britain so default csc code for my region is XEU. I am familiar with Samsung and years ago I made a research and case looks a little bit complicated. New phones sold directly from Samsung come with BTU csc code, but phones from resellers come with XEU csc. Additionally I experienced on s9 that in Odin flashing BTU resulted XEU. Very strange. There are a lot of threads with question about difference between XEU and BTU with always the same answer - it depends from where phone come. That's quite simple however still very strange.
Anybody has never explain what's the difference in software and services between XEU and BTU. What's the real difference between both of them?
Should I flash XEU or BTU? And why XEU or BTU?
If I know any other country doesn't have more than one csc for non branded Samsung's. Why Samsung released two different csc for UK?
It's really strange. Currently changing csc in samkey require credit so there is no sense check all csc just to see how them works. If you have knowledge what's going on please explain that.
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if you flash a CSC in Odin and it changes from what you thought you were flashing to something else, then its a multi csc file and the SIM in your phone is telling the phone to go to that CSC.
That's right in almost all case. My region UK is the only one exception with two csc XEU and BTU. XEU comes from resellers, Samsung sales phones with BTU csc code localy. Nobody knows why we have got two different csc for our country and what's the difference between both.
Grimm-reaper said:
Hello,
I have bought branded s10 - Vodafone UK. I will change CSC code to remove Vodafone branding from device and I am going to use Samkey. I live in Great Britain so default csc code for my region is XEU. I am familiar with Samsung and years ago I made a research and case looks a little bit complicated. New phones sold directly from Samsung come with BTU csc code, but phones from resellers come with XEU csc. Additionally I experienced on s9 that in Odin flashing BTU resulted XEU. Very strange. There are a lot of threads with question about difference between XEU and BTU with always the same answer - it depends from where phone come. That's quite simple however still very strange.
Anybody has never explain what's the difference in software and services between XEU and BTU. What's the real difference between both of them?
Should I flash XEU or BTU? And why XEU or BTU?
If I know any other country doesn't have more than one csc for non branded Samsung's. Why Samsung released two different csc for UK?
It's really strange. Currently changing csc in samkey require credit so there is no sense check all csc just to see how them works. If you have knowledge what's going on please explain that.
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usa also has multiple csc for unlocked devices.. the usa U1 (samsung direct models) have most to all the same csc that the carrier U models have.. for example theres xaa xas xac gcf then all the carriers also such as vzw spr att tmo you get the point.. usually the samsung direct has less bloat but also sometimes certain carrier features might not work such as wifibcalling for example.. usually ull be ok tho..
i suggest looking into chimera tool.. most devices r supported to change csc for free after ubpurchase a license which might b more beneficial in the long run instead of always purchasing samkey credits and you can try em all n see what works best for u.. id check if that features availabls for ur device first tho
Grimm-reaper said:
That's right in almost all case. My region UK is the only one exception with two csc XEU and BTU. XEU comes from resellers, Samsung sales phones with BTU csc code localy. Nobody knows why we have got two different csc for our country and what's the difference between both.
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i think most if not all since S8 contain multi-csc lol
Grimm-reaper said:
That's right in almost all case. My region UK is the only one exception with two csc XEU and BTU. XEU comes from resellers, Samsung sales phones with BTU csc code localy. Nobody knows why we have got two different csc for our country and what's the difference between both.
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you probably have a lot more than 2 lol.. usually each carrier has a csc.. chk ur partitions for example.. they might b in product or odm or somewhere in system.. or get phone info apk should also list them
elliwigy said:
you probably have a lot more than 2 lol.. usually each carrier has a csc.. chk ur partitions for example.. they might b in product or odm or somewhere in system.. or get phone info apk should also list them
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My mistake. Two different csc for unbranded devices. BTU - directly from Samsung. XEU - unbranded phones from resellers like Amazon. I don't understand why they are different. I have flashed BTU and my phone switched to XEU. Yes BTU is multi OXM.
Grimm-reaper said:
My mistake. Two different csc for unbranded devices. BTU - directly from Samsung. XEU - unbranded phones from resellers like Amazon. I don't understand why they are different. I have flashed BTU and my phone switched to XEU. Yes BTU is multi OXM.
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not sure what you mean by multi oxm since i thought oxm was a region code and not csc code necessarily..
@elliwigy,
1. Do you have a link to this Chimera tool?
2. I have a friend with a Galaxy Note 10+ and the CSC on this phone is set to TGY (Hong Kong).
If I understand correctly, call recording is blocked due to this CSC.
Can he use Chimera to change the CSC, and enable call recording?
ericgl said:
@elliwigy,
1. Do you have a link to this Chimera tool?
2. I have a friend with a Galaxy Note 10+ and the CSC on this phone is set to TGY (Hong Kong).
If I understand correctly, call recording is blocked due to this CSC.
Can he use Chimera to change the CSC, and enable call recording?
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It's a tool that isn't free https://chimeratool.com/en
SAMKEY Code Reader SERVER 1, 2, or 3 CREDIT Packs
elliwigy said:
usa also has multiple csc for unlocked devices.. the usa U1 (samsung direct models) have most to all the same csc that the carrier U models have.. for example theres xaa xas xac gcf then all the carriers also such as vzw spr att tmo you get the point.. usually the samsung direct has less bloat but also sometimes certain carrier features might not work such as wifibcalling for example.. usually ull be ok tho..
i suggest looking into chimera tool.. most devices r supported to change csc for free after ubpurchase a license which might b more beneficial in the long run instead of always purchasing samkey credits and you can try em all n see what works best for u.. id check if that features availabls for ur device first tho
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Unless you have a large number of phones you need to change csc for its way less expensive to use Samkey. I found a seller onebay selling 1 and 2 credits which makes it even cheaper. eBay seller name is stai30 you can find his items at link below
1 Credoit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283850219804
2 credits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283854077843
3 credits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283849640785
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ericgl said:
@elliwigy,
1. Do you have a link to this Chimera tool?
2. I have a friend with a Galaxy Note 10+ and the CSC on this phone is set to TGY (Hong Kong).
If I understand correctly, call recording is blocked due to this CSC.
Can he use Chimera to change the CSC, and enable call recording?
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Chimera is expensive and you have to re subscribe. Also samkey team is way more current with updates and you can even buy 1 credit or 2 credits cheap from ebay seller stai30.
mishaelwillo said:
Unless you have a large number of phones you need to change csc for its way less expensive to use Samkey. I found a seller onebay selling 1 and 2 credits which makes it even cheaper. eBay seller name is stai30 you can find his items at link below
1 Credoit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283850219804
2 credits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283854077843
3 credits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283849640785
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Chimera is expensive and you have to re subscribe. Also samkey team is way more current with updates and you can even buy 1 credit or 2 credits cheap from ebay seller stai30.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83299523&postcount=551
mishaelwillo said:
Unless you have a large number of phones you need to change csc for its way less expensive to use Samkey. I found a seller onebay selling 1 and 2 credits which makes it even cheaper. eBay seller name is stai30 you can find his items at link below
1 Credoit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283850219804
2 credits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283854077843
3 credits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/283849640785
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Chimera is expensive and you have to re subscribe. Also samkey team is way more current with updates and you can even buy 1 credit or 2 credits cheap from ebay seller stai30.
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you cant beat free.. and yes, there is free ways to change csc
Cheaper with Samkey
ericgl said:
@elliwigy,
1. Do you have a link to this Chimera tool?
2. I have a friend with a Galaxy Note 10+ and the CSC on this phone is set to TGY (Hong Kong).
If I understand correctly, call recording is blocked due to this CSC.
Can he use Chimera to change the CSC, and enable call recording?
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I was able to change CSC cheaper (as low as $2.99) with samkey, i found an ebay supplier selling 1 credit and 2 credit packs. Follow links to the items below.
1 Samkey credit http://www.ebay.com/itm/283850219804
2 Samkey credits http://www.ebay.com/itm/283854077843
3 Samkey credits http://www.ebay.com/itm/283849640785
Hey guys,
I'm really intested to get the galaxy watch 3 but sadly in Germany they don't offer the ecg/BP yet. If I buy a watch from a US store, let it ship overseas and activate it in Germany will I be able to use those functions?
There is no BP yet but you do get ECG. If you want everything SPay, BP, ECG and such use the Brazil ZTO firmware.
Korain said:
Hey guys,
I'm really intested to get the galaxy watch 3 but sadly in Germany they don't offer the ecg/BP yet. If I buy a watch from a US store, let it ship overseas and activate it in Germany will I be able to use those functions?
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I don't know the answer to this. The issue is also to check if you have LTE support for watch bought in USA as well if you choose this version.
I know for example where I live on GW3 they will not get ECG and BP in the future so buying in a different market or changing csc is relevant for me as well.
It seems sideloading ECG/BP with the latest firmware is now not so easy.
You can buy the watch in Germany. When you setup the watch you can choose a different region, e. g. Spain. Spain supports BP, ECG, spO2, and Samsung Pay.
I bought my watch in Holland (same problem, no functions released yet, except spO2) and got everything working by choosing Spain as region.
Please do make sure the watch is intended for the German Market. Some retailers import watches from abroad. If the country they imported the watch from is not part of the group of countries Germany and Spain are part of, you get stuck. In Holland, e. g. Coolblue only sells products intended for the Dutch market and are quite reliable. BOL and Amazon work with 3rd party retailers who import from abroad and are not reliable in this aspect. Coolblue is also active in Germany.
You can also buy directly from Samsung.de,which shouldn't give you a problem either.
congusto said:
You can buy the watch in Germany. When you setup the watch you can choose a different region, e. g. Spain. Spain supports BP, ECG, spO2, and Samsung Pay.
I bought my watch in Holland (same problem, no functions released yet, except spO2) and got everything working by choosing Spain as region.
Please do make sure the watch is intended for the German Market. Some retailers import watches from abroad. If the country they imported the watch from is not part of the group of countries Germany and Spain are part of, you get stuck. In Holland, e. g. Coolblue only sells products intended for the Dutch market and are quite reliable. BOL and Amazon work with 3rd party retailers who import from abroad and are not reliable in this aspect. Coolblue is also active in Germany.
You can also buy directly from Samsung.de,which shouldn't give you a problem either.
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Spain CSC has Blood Pressure, ECG, spO2 and Samsung Pay? Spotify and Uber?
I am not aware of any watch CSC restricrions for Über or Spotify.
congusto said:
I am not aware of any watch CSC restricrions for Über or Spotify.
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Some had complained they couldnt see one or the other. Wasn't aware all functions work with Spain CSC as Brazil ZTO had official BP confirmation and other functions.
Hey guys;
I bought the GW3, assuming I'd get the BP and ECG feature because i live in Dubai and i thought they'd have it. It arrived. No BP and ECG, but I do own a Galaxy phone. S10+.
Is there a work around, a firmware to install or something like that, so i can get access to the BP and ECG features??
Thank you.
this worked for me no fuss hopefully it helps others gdrive link is in its description, just sideload 2 apk and wala .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywvkjIAcatI