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Hi guys
My Mi5s is two years old, so, i've started to look for a new device, first, i thought about Poco F1 coz its a good phone and relative cheap, then mi9 dropped significantly its price, it was above $500 when its launched and now, we can find this piece of tech for about $359.
So, when i was willing to buy, i saw two new phones which got my attention, k20 pro ($379) and Lenovo Z6 pro ($389).
Lenovo is the best in specs and battery life
Poco is one year old, but still great and also cheaper of all of them
Mi9 is the 2nd best 2019 phone yet (OnePlus 7 is the best)
K20 pro is a kind of improvement of Mi9 (like Mi9s).
These are my opinion, what about your? could u help me to choice a new phone?
Cheers
I wouldn't post a question like this on a Mi9 forum...
My option would be, Mi9! Surprise!!
Just buy what you think is best for you, and stay offline for the next 2 years, you will always have a better option a few months later.
d.terenzzo said:
Hi guys
My Mi5s is two years old, so, i've started to look for a new device, first, i thought about Poco F1 coz its a good phone and relative cheap, then mi9 dropped significantly its price, it was above $500 when its launched and now, we can find this piece of tech for about $359.
So, when i was willing to buy, i saw two new phones which got my attention, k20 pro ($379) and Lenovo Z6 pro ($389).
Lenovo is the best in specs and battery life
Poco is one year old, but still great and also cheaper of all of them
Mi9 is the 2nd best 2019 phone yet (OnePlus 7 is the best)
K20 pro is a kind of improvement of Mi9 (like Mi9s).
These are my opinion, what about your? could u help me to choice a new phone?
Cheers
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K20 pro is not an improvement . It stands between mi9 and mi9 SE , same processor than mi9 , worst cameras
Nope mi9 is superior than k20 pro in many things
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Perfectdevil said:
Nope mi9 is superior than k20 pro in many things
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Could u point out those main diff between them?
DMart9406 said:
K20 pro is not an improvement . It stands between mi9 and mi9 SE , same processor than mi9 , worst cameras
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According to the specs, cameras are the same, Sony IMX 586 sensor, aperture and size.
d.terenzzo said:
Could u point out those main diff between them?
According to the specs, cameras are the same, Sony IMX 586 sensor, aperture and size.
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to summerize :
Redmi K20 Pro:
• Notch-less display
• 3.5mm audio port
• Larger battery
Xiaomi Mi 9:
• Newer Gorilla Glass screen protection
• Higher telephoto and ultrawide camera resolution with wider apertures
• IR blaster
• Wireless charging support
• HDR10
Why ask a specific phone forum? You will get biased answers.
Even if those who say Mi9 are right hehe
Perfectdevil said:
to summerize :
Redmi K20 Pro:
• Notch-less display
• 3.5mm audio port
• Larger battery
Xiaomi Mi 9:
• Newer Gorilla Glass screen protection
• Higher telephoto and ultrawide camera resolution with wider apertures
• IR blaster
• Wireless charging support
• HDR10
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also b28 lte band in favor for mi9 which makes a big diff in my city!
btw, if they have same processor and theoretically same modem (x24), why do they not have the same bands? its software (firmware) or hardware problem?
Hi everyone I would like to buy a smartphone and I really hesitate between Xiaomi mi 9t pro and Huawei p30 pro what do you recommend me thank you very much
samlis said:
Hi everyone I would like to buy a smartphone and I really hesitate between Xiaomi mi 9t pro and Huawei p30 pro what do you recommend me thank you very much
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Snapdragon 855 > Kirin 980 performance wise but you won't notice much difference in real world. If you're not interested in bootloader unlock/Rooting and stuff and just want a phone then P30 Pro is better. But i personally am not spending on expensive flagships anymore with phones like K20 pro or Realme X2 Pro in market. Personal opinion
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Snapdragon 855 > Kirin 980 performance wise but you won't notice much difference in real world. If you're not interested in bootloader unlock/Rooting and stuff and just want a phone then P30 Pro is better. But i personally am not spending on expensive flagships anymore with phones like K20 pro or Realme X2 Pro in market. Personal opinion
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Thank you, yes I saw that we can do a lot of things with the mi 9t pro what do you think of his camera
samlis said:
Thank you, yes I saw that we can do a lot of things with the mi 9t pro what do you think of his camera
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P30 pro definitely has a better camera although I don't own one. But if you're just a normal user who doesn't often use camera then K20's camera is more than good enough.
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P30 pro definitely has a better camera although I don't own one. But if you're just a normal user who doesn't often use camera then K20's camera is more than good enough.
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Thank you very much for your explanation
samlis said:
Hi everyone I would like to buy a smartphone and I really hesitate between Xiaomi mi 9t pro and Huawei p30 pro what do you recommend me thank you very much
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Huawei no longer issues bootloader unlock codes, so if you ever want to flash a custom rom or modify anything else you won't be able to (except for some paid services which kinds defeats the purpose). That's the reason I sold my View 10 and switched to Mi 9T Pro - and I have zero regrets :victory:
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Huawei no longer issues bootloader unlock codes, so if you ever want to flash a custom rom or modify anything else you won't be able to (except for some paid services which kinds defeats the purpose). That's the reason I sold my View 10 and switched to Mi 9T Pro - and I have zero regrets :victory:
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Thank you, and for the the camera and the battery what do you think
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Thank you, and for the the camera and the battery what do you think
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I didn't have the P30 so I don't know - but battery on the Mi 9T Pro is definitely better than on the View 10. Battery is hard to say, I don't take that many pictures
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I didn't have the P30 so I don't know - but battery on the Mi 9T Pro is definitely better than on the View 10. Battery is hard to say, I don't take that many pictures
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Thank you very much
These two phones are not comparable to me, as they are very different phones. P30 pro is a flagship device by a premium maker with a focus on phototaking, hence Pxx. It uses Hiaweis own chip etc. Mi 9T Pro is a flagship but for a value focused brand and it is an all rounder.
You can unlock K20 pro.
You can't unlock P30 pro.
Both send your data to CCP.
Both have very very slow updates (Official).
You can unlock K20 Pro.
Also the Huawei P30 Pro is almost twice the price of the MI 9T Pro (128gb), in France at least.
Even the 3rd party code sellers have stopped issuing unlock code.
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Main feature differences are:
P30 has SD card slot
P30 has OIS on main camera
9T-Pro has 3.5mm audio jack
9T-Pro has FM radio
P30 has wireless charging & reverse charging
P30 has notch in screen, 9T-Pro has popup cam
touch of jobo said:
Main feature differences are:
P30 has SD card slot
P30 has OIS on main camera
9T-Pro has 3.5mm audio jack
9T-Pro has FM radio
P30 has wireless charging & reverse charging
P30 has notch in screen, 9T-Pro has popup cam
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thanks for all :good: please tell me about overheating in games or internet surfing
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thanks for all :good: please tell me about overheating in games or internet surfing
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I've been playing call of duty with all graphics settings on Mac and get no overheating, in the 3 months I've had this phone I've never felt it over heating, I've watched 4k videos for 1 hour and got no overheating aswell
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thanks for all :good: please tell me about overheating in games or internet surfing
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The only time mine gets hot is when I'm trying to access the internet in a poor signal area, but then that's been true for every phone I've had.
I'm looking for a new phone and it's come down to the Xiaomi mi 9t pro or Realme X2 pro. The Realme is a bit more expensive but looks better in all aspects except for the camera and custom ROMs.
For me the availability of stable custom ROMs is very important and currently there doesn't seem to be anything going on for the Realme X2 pro in comparison to the mi 9t pro which is a deal breaker for me.
Is this because the mi 9t pro has been out for 2 months longer or is it a general problem with the Realme X2 pro?
chrissteffen98 said:
I'm looking for a new phone and it's come down to the Xiaomi mi 9t pro or Realme X2 pro. The Realme is a bit more expensive but looks better in all aspects except for the camera and custom ROMs.
For me the availability of stable custom ROMs is very important and currently there doesn't seem to be anything going on for the Realme X2 pro in comparison to the mi 9t pro which is a deal breaker for me.
Is this because the mi 9t pro has been out for 2 months longer or is it a general problem with the Realme X2 pro?
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Only for Custom rom Availability, I bought K20 Pro.
It' s the best.
chrissteffen98 said:
I'm looking for a new phone and it's come down to the Xiaomi mi 9t pro or Realme X2 pro. The Realme is a bit more expensive but looks better in all aspects except for the camera and custom ROMs.
For me the availability of stable custom ROMs is very important and currently there doesn't seem to be anything going on for the Realme X2 pro in comparison to the mi 9t pro which is a deal breaker for me.
Is this because the mi 9t pro has been out for 2 months longer or is it a general problem with the Realme X2 pro?
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Why are you not considering the OnePlus 7T? If you're happy to pay the extra for the Realme, then the OnePlus is more or less the same phone (it's really just the camera modules that differ), but has much more community dev support.
Personally, I've moved away from OnePlus because I didn't like how they've continually moved their prices way north, but they are still the most developer friendly and have the most active developer community.
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Why are you not considering the OnePlus 7T? If you're happy to pay the extra for the Realme, then the OnePlus is more or less the same phone (it's really just the camera modules that differ), but has much more community dev support.
Personally, I've moved away from OnePlus because I didn't like how they've continually moved their prices way north, but they are still the most developer friendly and have the most active developer community.
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The realme is already a bit over budget and the oneplus is even more expensive and also without a headphone jack.
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The realme is already a bit over budget and the oneplus is even more expensive and also without a headphone jack.
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I'm the same as you, in that I won't buy a phone with no custom ROM development.
Having just looked at the Realme X20 Pro forum, there is zero development, only the legend Mauronofrio has provided a TWRP, but otherwise there's tumbleweed blowing through the dev section. Personally I wouldn't touch it as things stand. If you prefer the Realme and can wait, then hang on and see if things improve in a month or so.
You could also see what the Mi 10 brings (assuming that will be the next Mi phone), it can't be far off. Maybe Xiaomi will include UFS 3.0 and 90Hz, now their competitors are doing this I imagine Xiaomi will follow suit.
X2 Pro arrived very late, not many have bought it tbh, if they can release their next phone parallel to K30 pro then it will be fun. But for now if rather have K20 pro
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I have to buy a new phone and have to choose between the Mi 9 of the Mi 9t pro. I prefer the 9t pro but red that they have stopped producing it, my question is: wil the mi 9t pro receive updates as long as the mi 9 or not ?
tuytel said:
I have to buy a new phone and have to choose between the Mi 9 of the Mi 9t pro. I prefer the 9t pro but red that they have stopped producing it, my question is: wil the mi 9t pro receive updates as long as the mi 9 or not ?
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Actually, I think both are out of production.
Remember that Mi9 T Pro has been presented 6 months later Mi9, so Mi9 is the older one.
I have a Mi9, it's a good device, snapdragon 855 is super fast and every app work fine.
If I should buy a device today, I would go with the Mi9 T Pro, here are the main big advantages:
Newer
Bigger battery (4000 vs 3300)
Popup camera (Mi9 has a notch on the screen)
And about updates yes, quite similar.
Both are on MIUI 11 and will receive MIUI 12 in the next months. So, no difference.
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Actually, I think both are out of production.
Remember that Mi9 T Pro has been presented 6 months later Mi9, so Mi9 is the older one.
I have a Mi9, it's a good device, snapdragon 855 is super fast and every app work fine.
If I should buy a device today, I would go with the Mi9 T Pro, here are the main big advantages:
Newer
Popup camera (Mi9 has a notch on the screen)
And about updates yes, quite similar.
Both are on MIUI 11 and will receive MIUI 12 in the next months. So, no difference.
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And , better battery life too
none of them, go for the Mi 9 Pro 5G if you can find it...have many pro's over Mi9 and even more than Mi9T Pro.
Mi9 Pro 5G is a Mi9 with bigger battery and 5G, with the same wireless charging and IR blaster and AMOLED like Mi9, is a improved Mi9, if i know today i go for Mi9 PRo 5G and not Mi9 only because battery is gettin short, like 5/6h SoT after 9 months.
Hi.
I had Mi 9t pro and I switch to Mi 9.
Reasons Mi 9 has wireless charging, better set of camera. Wide camera has autofous. Very rare feature, awesome for macro photos. Better telephoto camera.
Worst battery, missing jack 3.5 (I do not care).
But because of smaller battery it has lower weight. 9TPro is little bit heavy.
Pop up camera on Mi 9t pro is good for uninterrupted display, but it is not so good for face recognition.
I do care for cameras and I really like wireless charging. So for me Mi 9 is better chooice
You can go for Mi 9 Pro instead. It's essentially Mi 9 with SD855+ and 700mAh bigger battery, the rest of the specs are similar if not the same.
The Mi 9T has a larger developer community.
I unlock using face detection, with mi9t pro that feature would be too slow/not practical
This phone seems so much better for a better or the same price or lower price
108MP an AMOLED display 120hz even the phone looks much better especially the camera module
good enough chipset
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
historys said:
This phone seems so much better for a better or the same price or lower price
108MP an AMOLED display 120hz even the phone looks much better especially the camera module
good enough chipset
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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Fortunately, I keep thinking that I'll go for either Redmi Note 9 Pro or POCO X3 NFC from last months. But thanks for my "patience skill" so I could save my money to consider this phone.
Edit: Fixing some typos.
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Fortunately, I keep thinking that I'll go for either Redmi Note 9 Pro or POCO X3 NFC from last months. But thanks for my "patience skill" so I could save my money to consider this phone.
Edit: Fixing some typos.
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i'll probably upgrade in 2 or 3 years to the newest redmi phone if they keep getting out phones like this
this phone is absolutely amazing for the price hopefully redmi note 11 will also be the same if not even better
also poco x3 users are absolutely SEETHING
Using redmi note 7 from 2019, was looking for a good option for upgrade. I guess I got the perfect one, Redmi Note 10 Pro.
historys said:
i'll probably upgrade in 2 or 3 years to the newest redmi phone if they keep getting out phones like this
this phone is absolutely amazing for the price hopefully redmi note 11 will also be the same if not even better
also poco x3 users are absolutely SEETHING
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I wouldn't say many poco x3 are seething. spec wise is practically the same except the AMOLED and camera. I'm happy with good panel LCD screen on the x3- won't need to worry about burn-in/bleed if one is a heavy gamer. x3 is still one beast of a phone for the price!
Well Redmi Note 10 Pro (Global) and Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite (Global) are the two phones I'm looking for which for the 6/128 GB variant seem to cost just about the same (~265 €). My focus is on:
DualSIM, dedicated microSD, good stabilized video 1080p and possibly also 4k, very good day and ok night pictures, fast cpu/gpu (Antutu over 250k), Fast LTE with Bands 3,20,7,1,32 (8,38,28a), 3.5mm-Jack.
Both devices have those features. Unfortunately no Snapdragon 8 series devices with dedicated microSD and 3.5mm-Jack exist, so I need to stick to this lower mid-range class.
Redmi Note 10 Pro real advantage of 108 Mpx Samsung5K HM2 f/1.9 over 64 Mpx Sony IMX682 Exmor RS f/1.89 needs to be proven by side by side dedicated picture and video test. With GCam probably because of the slightly better processor in the Mi 10T Lite (Snapdragon 750G) it seems possible to activate EIS for 4k Videos. With Snapdragon 732G this seems unlikely to be possible. Also Mi 10T Lite has 3 of the 4 important 5G Bands in my area, could not find info that a Note 10 Pro Snapdragon Upgrade to 5G will be released (Global, the Note 10 5G is based on MediaTek).
So the advantages of Note 10 Pro (AMOLED, 108 Mpx, Radio FM) currently seem less important then those of Mi 10T Lite. I will wait until detailed camera comparisons are available, possibly with GCam for both devices.
EDIT: I need to correct that Mi 10T Lite (Global) according to several reviews on YouTube has no dedicated microSD (only hybrid DualSIM). Many techsheets online seem to have dedicated. This is a bummer and will leave only Redmi Note 10 Pro (Global) as candidate for my next buy.
5x optical zoom would have sold me, guess ill have to wait for another phone
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I wouldn't say many poco x3 are seething. spec wise is practically the same except the AMOLED and camera. I'm happy with good panel LCD screen on the x3- won't need to worry about burn-in/bleed if one is a heavy gamer. x3 is still one beast of a phone for the price!
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Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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Just sell it, buy Redmi Note 10 Pro and be one of the cool kids.
DoritoPower said:
Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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i had the lg v20 and it was supposedly a "flagship lg phone" but it was just a mess the two screen design didn't look at all and there was a lot of burn in
i didn't even know LCD panels can get burn in until i got that phone
Thing is the redmi note 9 variants have good, stable roms by now but it took months and months to get there, which was an exercise in frustration I'm not going to go through again, so I'm perfectly fine with my 9s and will get this one once/if there are solid roms available with all bugs squashed. Not interested in smelly Mi Ui.
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Thing is the redmi note 9 variants have good, stable roms by now but it took months and months to get there, which was an exercise in frustration I'm not going to go through again, so I'm perfectly fine with my 9s and will get this one once/if there are solid roms available with all bugs squashed. Not interested in smelly Mi Ui.
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The first stable (GSI) ROM was from sooti. Other non GSI ROMs weren't maintained long before you had to switch to another ROM. That's a pain.
I hope the Redmi Note 10 Pro or newer Poco phones will get better community support.
DoritoPower said:
Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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you are right
same here
i faced problems with my redmi note 7 screen burn and the battery too
i change it twice but seems not as good as the original
accubattery show me the capacity at 2000mah i cant find where is the problem with those new batteries
i ordered this new note 10 pro and i hope it will be a good choice
if not i will never buy xiaomi phones again
Need to rant again: I do not understand why in every series and also other brands with a better CPU (Snapdragon 8 series) they omit the microSD slot (not even shared) and in most cases also the 3.5mm-Jack. Is Google enforcing this?
The Redmi Note 10 Pro with Snapdragon 888 (865 also ok) and maybe better RAM specs would be awesome.
Don't worry. Exchange it with note 9 pro, you'll get a wholesome discount of 100$ or 9000₹.
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Need to rant again: I do not understand why in every series and also other brands with a better CPU (Snapdragon 8 series) they omit the microSD slot (not even shared) and in most cases also the 3.5mm-Jack. Is Google enforcing this?
The Redmi Note 10 Pro with Snapdragon 888 (865 also ok) and maybe better RAM specs would be awesome.
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this is not a flagship
this is a budget-ish phone
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this is not a flagship. this is a budget-ish phone
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Yeah, but why has it more interfaces-expansion-ports/connectivity then Xiaomi top phones? I would pay more and think the CPU, microSD slot and Jack alone would not make the phone much more expensive (like 600 $ or more). At least Redmi K40 Pro with Snapdragon 888 does cost only ca. 460 $ but has no microSD slot and no 3.5mm-Jack. Since everyone, not only Xiaomi, is doing it I do not understand it: why not use the integration of those two features as advantage to the competition? There must be some hidden policy behind this IMHO
Hah: It almost seems Xiaomi did use the strategy I wanted at least for the Poco X3 Pro (PX3P) presented yesterday! It has a shared/hybrid microSD slot and 3.5mm-Jack paired with a Snapdragon 860 - Antutu ~486k. By comparison the Snapdragon 732G in the Redmi Note 10 Pro (RN10P) has Antutu ~288k - Snapdragon 865 has Antutu ~615k and Snapdragon 888 has Antutu ~730k - so not top flagship performance but solid medium/premium territory, while the Snapdragon 732G now seems more budget level: even the Snapdragon 678 in the Redmi Note 10 (available for under 200$) delivers Antutu ~277k.
In addition PX3P has the advantage of UFS Storage 3.1 against UFS Storage 2.2 in RN10P. But it lacks FM Radio, AMOLED and also has no 5G. The "better" POCO F3 also presented yesterday by comparison is a rebranded Redmi K40 Pro (for Global) with Snapdragon 870 and 5G but no microSD (some sheets say it has Independent SD slot) and no 3.5mm-Jack and also good prices. The Poco F2 Pro at least has the 3.5mm-Jack.
Of course the camera in the PX3P seems disadvantaged with 48MP, f/1.79 IMX582 Exmor for the main lense, but fast CPU and memory are attractive for fast video editing etc. I will try to compare reviews with a focus on 4k EIS and 1080p EIS Video.
It's crazy how Xiaomi is coming up with these phones. Xiaomi is just competing with itself for 350USD and below phones right now
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It's crazy how Xiaomi is coming up with these phones. Xiaomi is just competing with itself for 350USD and below phones right now
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I agree. Some small competitors like Realme and Vivo try to deliver similar price/performance, but because much less models will be selled, much lower community support regarding GCam, CustomROMs (like Xiaomi.eu/mi-globe, AOSP/LOS based, etc.) will be available and so in my case much less attractive at similar price.
OnePlus has left this price territory and other interesting devices from Asus, Google, Samsung, Motorola just miss features and/or cost too much in comparison.
The thing I would like to see on sub 350$ Xiaomi phones is OIS (optical image stabilization) paired with gyroscope EIS stabilization to get top notch videos at 1080p or even 4k and at the same time less shaky/blurry images. But it seems Megapixel of the sensor are the stronger (selling) argument for the time being. In my case a top quality 12-18 Megapixel image is more then enough, I dislike the washed out details at zoom 1:1 of Smartphone best resolution pics on a Monitor screen.