I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
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It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
i4m5up3rm4n said:
I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
Rooting your Bootlocked Pixel Phone (Verizon Edition)
I bought a new Pixel phone on Ebay a couple months ago for testing an Android app i’m developing. To my surprise,the phone I received in the mail was not the...
joshspicer.com
It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
xunholyx said:
You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
you need to unlock the bootloader to use magisk v22+
Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
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Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
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That could be slightly deceiving. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked that's it. It does not mean you can unlock the bootloader. So technically you would need an unlockable bootloader device not merely an unlocked phone. You can buy an unlocked Verizon phone with no way of unlocking the bl as witnessed by the OP.
True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
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Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
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ProjectAlly said:
True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
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It wasn't really meant to be critical of you, I'm sure you know all that. I've just seen too many horror stories of buying an unlocked device and not being able to bl unlock due to restrictions the carriers put on. Some have been lucky and paid off the device, begged tech support to allow bl unlock and succeeded in that request. And then there are those devices that are carrier unlocked and will never be bl unlocked like the Verizon models. So as you say, ask questions and make sure you know exactly what you are buying.
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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You can't just say that with no proof and think anyone will take it seriously. So prove it, we're all ears.
Hell, if that were true, I would ONLY buy Verizon phones
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Provide instructions then. You just saying it can be done without providing them is a moot comment.
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
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Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update. You can think this and that is impossible, but you are sadly wrong. You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update.
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
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You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
It's sad how things like this can become so twisted and turned and convoluted. It doesn't do any good does it? None that I can see.
I'm guessing, but anyone talking about a vzw being unlockable is probably referring to someone who got a vzw 'in the box', unopened and never activated.
I just got a pix3 in that condition, and yes, remove vzw sim, boot up minimal except connect wifi, enable dev and turn on oem unlock... it does work.
But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
cheers
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
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If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
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Nothing about that statement is correct, sorry. It's been proved time and time again.
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If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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What's your definition of "hack"?
If you really can do this, why don't you offer to do it for people? I'm sure more than a few would be happy to throw you some $$ to get their Verizon devices unlocked. I did this back in the days of the HTC devices when a Java card was the only bootloader unlock method. You'd also get less blowback than effectively saying "Nah nah I know how to do this but I'm not going to tell you."
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When I searched for this I saw many posts from last year, and so I'm not sure if anything has changed. This is likely a stupid question, but I can't seem to find a straight answer.
I have an HTC One M7, and the screen is literally falling out of it. I want to pull the trigger on a nexus 6, and looking on Ebay I see that the AT&T version is the cheapest. I've read that these are locked, but that (at least a year ago) AT&T were letting people unlock them. Is this true? Should I buy one of these phones can I go to an AT&T store and get it unlocked to use a different carrier? I'm on Verizon and since the status of my unlimited data is always in limbo, the less I have to talk to them the better. I'm aware there is a site that will unlock phones, but if I can do it for free, that seems preferable.
Also, aside from doing it myself is there any place I can get my sim card cut? Someone said that bestbuy used to do it, but the nearest one is a long drive for me, and I'd hate to make the trip for nothing.
in order to unlock an att n6 thats sim locked, the phone has to be 100% paid off(to att). if the person is selling it, it might be, or might not. thats the very first thing that i would ask the seller. if it isnt, id avoid buying it, as it could be stolen. if it was stolen, att will never unlock it for you.
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Interesting, a lot of the sellers are re-sellers of used phones, how could you actually check to see if it's paid off or not?
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Interesting, a lot of the sellers are re-sellers of used phones, how could you actually check to see if it's paid off or not?
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there are a few places online that you enter the imei number and itll say if its been reported stolen or not, or if its been placed on the list. if it has been placed on the list, then every US carrier will not let you use the phone on their networks. but the only way to tell 100% is ro buy it and try it(but i dont recommend this way).
Well, the seller (of the phone I'm looking at) claims it's a clean IMEI, literally in the title, but that doesn't alleviate the problem of finding out if it's been fully paid off, right?
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Well, the seller (of the phone I'm looking at) claims it's a clean IMEI, literally in the title, but that doesn't alleviate the problem of finding out if it's been fully paid off, right?
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nope. ask them, the most direct way to get an answer. and ask them if they got it unlocked, if it is paid for.
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nope. ask them, the most direct way to get an answer. and ask them if they got it unlocked, if it is paid for.
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Well, the answer they gave me is that AT&T phones cannot be unlocked. So either they never tried, or they just don't know it's possible.
squat251 said:
Well, the answer they gave me is that AT&T phones cannot be unlocked. So either they never tried, or they just don't know it's possible.
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lol, ive never heard that one before, of all the ridiculous things that ive heard said before. funny that att would put up a "fake" website for requesting unlock codes then https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
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btw..
General Requirements for All Unlock Requests
The device must be designed for use on, and locked to, the AT&T wireless network. (For help see Device Unlock Support )
It must not be reported lost or stolen.
It’s not associated with fraudulent activity.
All the device’s service commitments and installment plans are completed, and all early termination fees are paid in full.
The device is not currently active on a different AT&T customer’s account.
If you performed an early upgrade, you must wait the 14-day buyer’s remorse period before you can request to unlock your previous device.
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lol, ive never heard that one before, of all the ridiculous things that ive heard said before. funny that att would put up a "fake" website for requesting unlock codes then https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
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THe at&t only phones can't be unlocked, please keep an eye i may update the listing with unlocked devices, waiting to see if they can be unlocked or not.
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His response after telling him I needed to know if it had been paid off (and why).
Perhaps that means he's tried and they cannot be unlocked, I'm not sure he wasn't all that clear.
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His response after telling him I needed to know if it had been paid off (and why).
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well, if he gets it unlocked, then id say go for it
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well, if he gets it unlocked, then id say go for it
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I'd say if he manages to unlock it, he's going to price it the same as everyone else with unlocked phones the goal was to avoid that lol.
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I'd say if he manages to unlock it, he's going to price it the same as everyone else with unlocked phones the goal was to avoid that lol.
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oh, hope not! btw, what was he offering before?
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oh, hope not! btw, what was he offering before?
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265 for an A+ condition used phone. unlocked phones are going in the 300+ range, I can get one brand new for 300 and change from http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-6-smartphone-xt1103-unlocked-32gb-cloud-white-284542/
I recommend you avoid buying from Expansys, check around at least first.
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I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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Return it, and buy an unlockable device.
If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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I got it from T-Mobile
quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model
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If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock
TechOut said:
He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock
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My mistake, thank you for clarifying.
TechOut said:
You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model
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Is that just for now or a certainty?
quantum88 said:
Is that just for now or a certainty.
Well it didnt happen on the s9 that i know of so.....
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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quantum88 said:
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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Your BL is locked, there is nothing for you to gain be enabling OEM unlock. The people with unlockable devices have to enable OEM to flash twrp...you cannot therefore it is pointless.
Well at least in my point of view, why do you want to enable it?
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t mobile sm-n960u unlock ???
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
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is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available
The simple answer is that you can't unlock the bootloader on the US market phone. You haven't been able to do so since the Galaxy S7. I think it likely has a lot to do with KNOX integration for security reasons. The complicated answer is that there were ways to root the S7 by flashing a developer bootloader (engboot or something like that). The catch is that while you could root it, the phone would run like crap, overheat, bad battery life, etc. Some claimed to have decent success with it though. Likely something similar will happen with the Note 9 as well as. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked, meaning you can activate it on any supported carrier. It has nothing to do with the bootloader.
Long story short, no, you can't unlock the bootloader, no, you can't flash twrp, and you'll find actual development for the US market phone to be essentially non-existent. If that is important to you, return this phone. Coming from rooting and flashing all of my phones prior to the S7, I honestly don't miss it. IMO, there's nothing to be gained, and it's a huge time suck. Life is too short and I'm too busy to spend an evening setting things up for the 5th time, troubleshooting battery life issues, etc. Not to mention that my job related security apps aren't going to work on a rooted phone.
Now, as far as "junk apps" not sure what you mean. These phones are now pretty clean actually, and most things can be uninstalled or disabled from within stock android. And as I found out many times in the past, if something is unable to be disabled, it's probably for good reason.
As far as ads, also not sure what you mean. Web browser ads can be blocked through extensions that Samsung browser supports. In app ads can be eliminated by paying for the app. Really, if you can't afford $3 for an app that you frequently use, I'd question how you can afford a $1000 phone.
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now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
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That's incorrect. The unlocked version is fully compatible with T-Mobile.
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So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
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Samsung has been locking bootloaders since the S7? It's been a few years. Even when someone found a way to beat it, it was severely limiting to your device. You said you're not new here. This is pretty common knowledge with Samsung devices.
MerlinTT said:
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
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Uh, what ads? That's not a samsung thing, I think you just installed some ****ty apps.
MerlinTT said:
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
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Hoooo boy. You might want to look into HTC phones before you buy one.
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is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
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Yes. And they've been working on the S9 too, which still can't be beaten. And a proper way to unlock the S8, without limiting your battery to 80%.
And why exactly is T-Mobile "junk"? Maybe you need a different carrier.
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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If a color is challenging your sexuality, you have deeper problems than an unrootable phone.
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I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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I think your problems go well beyond the color of your boot screen. Seek help. The kind of help you need we're not qualified to provide here. How often do you see the boot logo screen anyway?
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Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
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is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available
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There are two types of "unlocked": carrier and bootloader. BestBuy meant carrier unlocked, or the N960U1. The hardware is equivalent to the carrier version (N960U; there's only one model now for all the carriers), and the only software difference is that it doesn't come with the carrier bloat. Same hardware and firmware means it supports B71. However, it cannot be bootloader unlocked.
You have two options if you want a bootloader unlock: the N9600 or the N960F. Neither supports B71, but both do support B66. Remember, B71 isn't all that important yet. It's only been rolled out in a few places and TMO is concentrating more on 5G right now.
The N960F has a mod you can flash to enable TMO WiFi Calling and VoLTE and the other carrier features. I'm running it now and it works fine. It did sort of convert my phone to a Chinese variant, which meant I was stuck with the super aggressive Smart Manager instead of Device Manager, but I modified it to let me use Device Manager again. I might be posting the modified version if I can get permission.
The fact is that, yes, Samsung kind of beat the rooters. However, anyone who really wants to root usually just gets the F or 0 variant, and those who can live without make do with the plethora of non-root tweaks. There are actually quite a few adblockers and package disablers designed for TouchWiz that work without root, such as DNS66 or notSABS.
I don't know anything about flashing modified TouchWiz ROMs on the U variant, but it might be possible. It won't have root though.
Really, if you want a rootable Samsung, go with the N960F. You can get it on Amazon new with Prime for under $900 (without Prime it's $800). It has TWRP and Magisk works fine. If you want WFC PM me so I can share my modified mod (heh). I'll also be working on a set of other miscellaneous modifications to TouchWiz.
SM-N960U
So in old slow world of us phone dummies that try to keep up with all the brain power that this site has been good for in unlocking phones over the years, oh ya and when you all talk that doctors language and write it
to where us dummies have to read and reread over and over again and again to unlock are phones after you all figured it out!!
So what you are saying in the current Samsung world rooting is a thing of the past! Samsung won the hacking war!!! and us pe-ons are mostly stuck with carrier banded phones or unlocked that loses carrier bands and options!
Unless we pay some merc to kidnap you and have some doctor transfer your brain power into are brains so we have the brain power to hack and mod are locked phones then if we are kind have that brain power transferred back to your brains!!!!
I should have stayed with my note 4
oh ya my man hood is just fine they hang lower then yours but that happens with old age how low??
it is great with the younger ladies big is a big deal today
like older ladies with big you know what age affects them to and the younger guys can not stop looking
just do not like pink
Grumpy
I have to root my phones (not wanting to pay $30 for Verizon tether), is anyone aware if the Pixel 4 XL from Verizon will have the bootloader locked, and unable to be rooted? In addition to that, would we see a root for the unlocked version? Thanks
Pretty sure most carrier devices are going to remain locked until you pay it off. At least, that's the logical rationale. I can't imagine they want people unlocking devices they haven't paid for. As far as root, that should be a simple process of just patching the boot.img
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Pretty sure most carrier devices are going to remain locked until you pay it off. At least, that's the logical rationale. I can't imagine they want people unlocking devices they haven't paid for. As far as root, that should be a simple process of just patching the boot.img
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the lock not something they ever lift? My current 2 XL was paid retail but they never allowed me to unlock the bootloader. They do allow for any carrier SIM to be used in it.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the lock not something they ever lift? My current 2 XL was paid retail but they never allowed me to unlock the bootloader. They do allow for any carrier SIM to be used in it.
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If you bought the Verizon Pixel 2 XL it had a locked bootloader. Since it was exclusive to Verizon. The unlocked version directly from Google did not have a locked bootloader. That was the same for the Pixel 3 and 3 XL. I am not sure about the Pixel 3a and 3a XL since it was not exclusive to Verizon.
Does anyone know if the Pixel 3a or 3a XL came with a locked bootloader?
EDIT: There's a thread over on the Pixel 3a XL where a bunch of carrier and non-carrier devices had locked bootloaders. I would be careful which device you buy going forward until you hear others chime in on the greyed out unlocked button.
When in doubt, buy directly from Google.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the lock not something they ever lift? My current 2 XL was paid retail but they never allowed me to unlock the bootloader. They do allow for any carrier SIM to be used in it.
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This is correct. Verizon is a mofo. Doesn't make much sense. I mean, you paid for the device, you should be able to do what you want with it
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This is correct. Verizon is a mofo. Doesn't make much sense. I mean, you paid for the device, you should be able to do what you want with it
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This right here has been the case with Verizon going ALL the way back to the Verizon Galaxy Nexus. **** Verizon!
Yep, never buy the carrier modesl unless you have absolutely no other option. In the case of Tmo with OnePlus and similar phones you could get an unlock (both carrier and bootloader) after the device was paid off. You still have to deal with a little bloat and later updates along with lesser issues. AT&T will have this one and their policies are similar to Verizon so I wouldn't go that way unless you hate yourself. No idea on Sprint, that have nothing in my area so I haven't paid attention. The previous posters were 100 prevent though, buying unlocked is the way. Tmo if you must to get a deal but only after verifying the bootloader can be unlocked.
krabman said:
Yep, never buy the carrier modesl unless you have absolutely no other option. In the case of Tmo with OnePlus and similar phones you could get an unlock (both carrier and bootloader) after the device was paid off. You still have to deal with a little bloat and later updates along with lesser issues. AT&T will have this one and their policies are similar to Verizon so I wouldn't go that way unless you hate yourself. No idea on Sprint, that have nothing in my area so I haven't paid attention. The previous posters were 100 prevent though, buying unlocked is the way. Tmo if you must to get a deal but only after verifying the bootloader can be unlocked.
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I currently have a one plus 7pro from T-Mobile that is still financed. The bootloader was locked until you paid off your device and waited the mandatory 45 days. Some were able to talk to T-force and got their devices unlocked early whether they financed or not. I was one of the unlucky ones that could not negotiate with T-force to unlock my device. Luckily there was a nice person that worked for TMobile that was in the forums and was able to unlock my phone. We will see what happens when we get the devices and start working on them. I will be financing my phone with them again next Thursday.
I purchased the Unlocked model. I currently have Pixel 2XL Verizon (Bootloader Locked), not a huge issue. But there are times where I wish I had a rooted phone. Not making that mistake again.
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I currently have a one plus 7pro from T-Mobile that is still financed. The bootloader was locked until you paid off your device and waited the mandatory 45 days. Some were able to talk to T-force and got their devices unlocked early whether they financed or not. I was one of the unlucky ones that could not negotiate with T-force to unlock my device. Luckily there was a nice person that worked for TMobile that was in the forums and was able to unlock my phone. We will see what happens when we get the devices and start working on them. I will be financing my phone with them again next Thursday.
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Did you try calling in multiple times? That often works although some people can't seem to catch a break on it. I've been on a number of OP devices and I'm familiar with what you're talking about; Saw it most recently on the 6T but it goes back further. I had them unlock a SGS6 the day I bought it, I paid cash but still the word was it couldn't be done without a dwell period, I remember it being 30 days at that time but maybe it was 45, been a while. In any event the very next year was the one were it turned out Tmo couldn't unlock your bootloader, came from Samsung they said. I remember there being an exploit coming out for that but I had already given away my S7 and moved on to the next thing before they figured that out. Not much over a year later Samsung started the BS with bootloaders on their international unlocked phones and I didn't keep the Note 8 long either. IMO if root is a must it's a good idea to let someone else be the guinea pig and profit from that information unless you've got enough ching to walk away without worrying about it.
I'm pretty sure this phone will also be exactly as you describe on Tmo and I agree with you BTW, just saying the smart money if a man needs to be careful is to wait for the first phones to meet their owners a few of who will unlock and root or attempt to do it. Or as I said in my first post, buy unlocked direct from Goog or Fi if possible.
There is not likely to be any bootloader unlock for the P4 and P4XL for carrier versions unless an exploit is found (which doesn't seem likely anymore). Google does not provide carriers an interface to change the device type, nor do they provide that interface to their own customer service and support teams. It's not a matter of hounding customer service or posting on the right forum because they can't help you. It's an obligation that Google has to meet if they want to keep their big carrier contracts in the United States.
The only unlocking requirement for carrier specific versions is having the ability to SIM unlock the device for portability between networks. Most carriers will do this upon request if you have international travel plans or have completed a certain percentage of your device financing.
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There is not likely to be any bootloader unlock for the P4 and P4XL for carrier versions unless an exploit is found (which doesn't seem likely anymore). Google does not provide carriers an interface to change the device type, nor do they provide that interface to their own customer service and support teams. It's not a matter of hounding customer service or posting on the right forum because they can't help you. It's an obligation that Google has to meet if they want to keep their big carrier contracts in the United States.
The only unlocking requirement for carrier specific versions is having the ability to SIM unlock the device for portability between networks. Most carriers will do this upon request if you have international travel plans or have completed a certain percentage of your device financing.
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So, the devices are shipped to the carriers already locked? Interesting. for some reason I always thought it was the individual carriers that lock them down and then would unlock it when you fully paid off the device. So you're saying, even if you fully pay off the device, you will never be able to unlock a carrier pixel 4/XL? Wow, that's a bummer.
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So, the devices are shipped to the carriers already locked? Interesting. for some reason I always thought it was the individual carriers that lock them down and then would unlock it when you fully paid off the device. So you're saying, even if you fully pay off the device, you will never be able to unlock a carrier pixel 4/XL? Wow, that's a bummer.
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Correct. Enthusiasts have a channel to bootloader unlock, which is buying directly from Google where Google provides it's own support.
Carriers are only looking to sell you a device that's stable to work on their own networks. What do the carriers have to gain at all from controlling the bootloader unlock? They have nothing to gain from it except a support migraine.
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Correct. Enthusiasts have a channel to bootloader unlock, which is buying directly from Google where Google provides it's own support.
Carriers are only looking to sell you a device that's stable to work on their own networks. What do the carriers have to gain at all from controlling the bootloader unlock? They have nothing to gain from it except a support migraine.
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Yeah, that makes sense when you put it that way. Just took me by surprise when OP and it's carrier phones pretty much allow you to do whatever you want to the device, once it's paid off. Still can't stand OP, but I have to admit, that's a check mark in their corner
Keep in mind Google does not require it like Samsung does so it's left up to the carrier. Tmo has been unlocking similar devices and there is little reason to think it wont happen here. In the opposing camp you have Verizon which demands a locked bootloader and few exploits have been found to circumvent it on recent devices. Meanwhile something to consider is that even the unlocked straight from google device is not really unlocked in the way some people think: Before you can unlock the bootloader it absolutely must phone home. Don't give the phone that connection and you cannot unlock it. Samsung does the same thing. We are not in control of our devices anymore, they can pull the plug on unlocking any time they want simply by denying it via that same connection even if you have already unlocked it. Samsung did this a few years ago in just that way and to this date no one has found a way around it that doesn't cause real pain with the wait a week and all that BS.
I called several times and got on with T-force sever times and no luck. I got lucky when the post I described about unlocking and got mine done. I always device finance because of the 0% apr and jump on demand so all I need to is bring my phone, get my new phone and profit.
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Pretty sure most carrier devices are going to remain locked until you pay it off. At least, that's the logical rationale. I can't imagine they want people unlocking devices they haven't paid for. As far as root, that should be a simple process of just patching the boot.img
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"simple process" "just patch the boot img" come on man.. Ask the people that own a pixel 3 from Verizon. Please don't spread wrong info
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"simple process" "just patch the boot img" come on man.. Ask the people that own a pixel 3 from Verizon. Please don't spread wrong info
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You mean, ask the people who were dumb enough to buy a locked down device? I'll pass. People that have purchased Verizon's in the past, as you have stated, would obviously know this doesn't apply to them. I was more referring to, since we don't have recovery yet, you would have to patch the boot img manually.
Honestly, I ALMOST got me and my wife's from Verizon (she definitely jumped on the pixel bandwagon). They have a buy one, get one free. Sooo, I kept thinking about root, but ultimately decided I'd rather save $900. Evidently, there's some caveats. One, the get one is for a new line. No biggie, I'll just cancel the one number and add a new one (her phone is paid off, I don't think there's a termination fee after two years). Two, you have to sign up for an unlimited plan. That piece completely wiped the price difference and then some for me. Sooo, I smiled a bit and bought them unlocked from Google. The only reason I would buy directly is for a huge price savings.
Another thing I thought of too, there is an early upgrade fee with V if I were to decide to upgrade to the 5xl next year. So, that's another caveat. I'm glad I just went with unlocked. Hoping it doesn't take long to root.
This time around I placed a pre-order with Google Fi.
All their Pixels are both SIM & Bootloader Unlocked even on
financing, same as Google Store.
I am junior here at XDA and am aware of the protocols for posting (search, search, search before asking), My query doesn't match anything I looked for because it is a combo of different things. Hence, this new thread
a) I've bought an ATT G020J on Ebay that will work with Cricket (that's what the listing said) and I am on Tmob. It is without contract, so I am assuming it is unlockable. Has anyone here tried crossflashing IMG files previously between these two exact carriers; is that even poss?
b) In cue, anyone care to share experience with ATT folks unlocking P4XL specifically, for other carriers?
b) Did October update/patch ruin face unlock for most or only few?
I will return or keep the item based on your generous/helpful replies.
Once again, I apologize before hand if I missed any existing thread that might have alluded to these three issues.
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I am junior here at XDA and am aware of the protocols for posting (search, search, search before asking), My query doesn't match anything I looked for because it is a combo of different things. Hence, this new thread
a) I've bought an ATT G020J on Ebay that will work with Cricket (that's what the listing said) and I am on Tmob. It is without contract, so I am assuming it is unlockable. Has anyone here tried crossflashing IMG files previously between these two exact carriers; is that even poss?
b) In cue, anyone care to share experience with ATT folks unlocking P4XL specifically, for other carriers?
b) Did October update/patch ruin face unlock for most or only few?
I will return or keep the item based on your generous/helpful replies.
Once again, I apologize before hand if I missed any existing thread that might have alluded to these three issues.
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Can I ask why you didn't just buy the correct carrier specific Pixel? Also, buying an unlocked version avoids all of this experimentation. Prices are down right now and you can get an unlocked Pixel for not much more than a carrier locked version.
As far as your question, It's not going to work by your logic. Your not going to be able to flash anything that will carrier unlock or switch the phone, otherwise everyone would do it and every Pixel would be unlockable (which they aren't)
My suggestion is return the phone and buy an unlocked Pixel.
October patch didn't harm my face unlock in any way. I haven't Heard any widespread issues regarding have unlock and the October patch.
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I am junior here at XDA and am aware of the protocols for posting (search, search, search before asking), My query doesn't match anything I looked for because it is a combo of different things. Hence, this new thread...
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The phone will likely come both carrier locked and bootloader locked. There are quite a few threads on XDA about carrier locked phones. Hopefully you can return and get your money back. Best of luck.
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Can I ask why you didn't just buy the correct carrier specific Pixel? Also, buying an unlocked version avoids all of this experimentation. Prices are down right now and you can get an unlocked Pixel for not much more than a carrier locked version.
As far as your question, It's not going to work by your logic. Your not going to be able to flash anything that will carrier unlock or switch the phone, otherwise everyone would do it and every Pixel would be unlockable (which they aren't)
My suggestion is return the phone and buy an unlocked Pixel.
October patch didn't harm my face unlock in any way. I haven't Heard any widespread issues regarding have unlock and the October patch.
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Why?-- Bands are exactly the same across ALL variants here in the US, other than carrier-locked OEM pickle. So, once it is out of contract, the question was meant to see if anyone has had experience requesting and getting unlock code from the orange carrier.
---Magenta versions are more expensive, based solely on condition of the phone
--- dependable and reputable seller I have bought multiple times in the past had a 9.9+/10 condition with original packaging for $379. Could not pass that up.
(You are right, in that I could have bought the unlocked version. Not sure about you but I pay outright but for previous years' flagships, but only when they are in the $400 range, which is the most I can afford to cough out at once. I don't like doing installments unless they be for a car or house because that's just me)
Sammy's galaxies, albeit Exynos not SD, are often flashed across each other, despite the company's stranglehold on their version of Android. Google being the 'truer' open sourced company, my idea was if, again, anyone had done boot image flashing across different models but once out of contract and unlocked
Thank you for the last bit as well. There was a Reddit thread complaining how the security patch had ruined the face unlock/sensor. But your statement is assuring.
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The phone will likely come both carrier locked and bootloader locked. There are quite a few threads on XDA about carrier locked phones. Hopefully you can return and get your money back. Best of luck.
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okay, thank youI shall look into it. I have a thirty day return window, so if nothing, I can return it within few days of researching to get it unlocked. The unit is assuredly out of contract for sure even if it is meant for AT&T network.
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okay, thank youI shall look into it. I have a thirty day return window, so if nothing, I can return it within few days of researching to get it unlocked. The unit is assuredly out of contract for sure even if it is meant for AT&T network.
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"Out of contract" doesn't mean anything. The market is flooded with locked phones for sale cheap. Could be stolen, could be broken contract, could be blacklisted, etc. Because it is carrier locked you *will have to* go through AT&T to get it unlocked. If the seller was legit, in good standing with AT&T and had simply upgraded to a new phone they could have easily had AT&T unlock it for free OTA and it would have been more valuable/marketable. There are also several threads here on XDA that will give you some insight on trying to get an AT&T phone carrier unlocked. I wish you the best of luck, but you are in for an uphill battle.
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"Out of contract" doesn't mean anything. The market is flooded with locked phones for sale cheap. Could be stolen, could be broken contract, could be blacklisted, etc. Because it is carrier locked you *will have to* go through AT&T to get it unlocked. If the seller was legit, in good standing with AT&T and had simply upgraded to a new phone they could have easily had AT&T unlock it for free OTA and it would have been more valuable/marketable. There are also several threads here on XDA that will give you some insight on trying to get an AT&T phone carrier unlocked. I wish you the best of luck, but you are in for an uphill battle.
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Thank you for the reminder. Yes, interestingly, seller should have been able to unlock it if it were out of contract and then sell. Let's see where I end up. I shall update the information here once I go through the grind.
I am currently searching for relevant threads of ATT unlocking Pixel 4XL...
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Thank you for the reminder. Yes, interestingly, seller should have been able to unlock it if it were out of contract and then sell. Let's see where I end up. I shall update the information here once I go through the grind.
I am currently searching for relevant threads of ATT unlocking Pixel 4XL...
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Have you find one of those threads?
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Have you find one of those threads?
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THIS THREAD does a pretty good job of explaining it. If you are able to get AT&T to carrier unlock your phone, you can then unlock the bootloader too, if you wish. Only AT&T can whitelist the IMEI on the AT&T variant. @sdg1980
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THIS THREAD does a pretty good job of explaining it. If you are able to get AT&T to carrier unlock your phone, you can then unlock the bootloader too, if you wish. Only AT&T can whitelist the IMEI on the AT&T variant. @sdg1980
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Thank you so much for that! I found that as well prior to posting this original thread. Seemed to be a mixed bag for commenting members. Persistence paid off for some, even within the contract period. I am chalking that up to luck and probably ill-informed techs who screwed their own employer. Ironically, @jac0b was unsuccessful in requesting unlock from AT&T. I have posed him a question about whether his device was paid off or not when he requested or had any particular hurdle unique to his case. Third party or ATT...,,,neither will unlock at any cost until the device is paid off, bad ESN, prepaid device within two month window, and some more stipulations I can't remember. They are listed on the vendors' websites.
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I'm not a user of sprint, but I want to know is there other methods to unlock bootloader for pixel 4xl sprint
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No. You may be able to carrier unlock, but not BL unlock. I suppose your "allow oem unlocking" toggle is greyed out?
There always is a way, no OS is perfect, though it's very hard. I am working on a way to unlock the bootloader and doing tests on a locked AT&T Pixel 4XL. If I succeed I will let you know
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There always is a way, no OS is perfect, though it's very hard. I am working on a way to unlock the bootloader and doing tests on a locked AT&T Pixel 4XL. If I succeed I will let you know
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tks
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No. You may be able to carrier unlock, but not BL unlock. I suppose your "allow oem unlocking" toggle is greyed out?
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Yeah, but there is a website directunlock, I don't know that can actually unlock my phone. I asked the sprint customer through their web, they said I need a sprint account, but... Well, I'm not in America and don't have sprint card.
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Yeah, but there is a website directunlock, I don't know that can actually unlock my phone. I asked the sprint customer through their web, they said I need a sprint account, but... Well, I'm not in America and don't have sprint card.
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I believe you are in a similar situation as me...
I bought the 4XL and live in Europe, so no way I can get an AT&T SIM, and to get things even worse, the customer didn't pay off the contract yet, so I need another way to unlock the bootloader, and that's what I am working on right now. Hope I don't take too long to create a new guide!
As for that website, you need to be lucky to find one that actually works . What I saw on the web was a lot of people getting scammed by using them, however, I never tried it out.
If you don't mind losing the money, then try it. I prefer to do it for free, even if it takes my time and effort rather than risking my money, but that's a decision it's up to you
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I believe you are in a similar situation as me...
I bought the 4XL and live in Europe, so no way I can get an AT&T SIM, and to get things even worse, the customer didn't pay off the contract yet, so I need another way to unlock the bootloader, and that's what I am working on right now. Hope I don't take too long to create a new guide!
As for that website, you need to be lucky to find one that actually works . What I saw on the web was a lot of people getting scammed by using them, however, I never tried it out.
If you don't mind losing the money, then try it. I prefer to do it for free, even if it takes my time and effort rather than risking my money, but that's a decision it's up to you
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Yes, we are in the same situation, and my phone have an unpaid bill, so it can't unlock. Thank you for your reply, and I believe you will succeed.
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Yes, we are in the same situation, and my phone have an unpaid bill, so it can't unlock. Thank you for your reply, and I believe you will succeed.
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Let's fight for that!