Hello, I'm looking to get a new Android phone and I really like how the Sony Xperia 1 ii sounds, but, I really don't want the pre installed apps and I would rather fully delete them then just "disable for the current user".
If I rooted a Sony Xperia 1 ii then deleted the apps I didn't want, and I unrooted the phone, would it be as secure is it was before root? Also, would the apps I just deleted come back with future OTA updates?
Since I don't want to maintain a rooted phone and have to keep up security myself while it is rooted.
If you update it after that there's no telling what could happen is my guess.
Maybe do some ADB edits and call it good.
Or use Package Disabler for non Samsung phones and bypass all the monkey business entirely. Phone remains stock.
adb tools can fully delete pre installed app.
rooted phone cannot use some bank app.
If you want to rooted the phone,
you must unlock bootloader before root,
this step will clear all user data in your phone.
And when you want to get OTA and unroot,
you need relock bootloader.
And you need to flash firmware once before relock bootloader.
If not, you cannot boot into system.
So, your preinstall app will be back after relock bootloader.
bkk99213 said:
adb tools can fully delete pre installed app.
rooted phone cannot use some bank app.
If you want to rooted the phone,
you must unlock bootloader before root,
this step will clear all user data in your phone.
And when you want to get OTA and unroot,
you need relock bootloader.
And you need to flash firmware once before relock bootloader.
If not, you cannot boot into system.
So, your preinstall app will be back after relock bootloader.
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Thank you for your reply.
I read on another forum that removing apps with ADB only "removes" for the current user. Not fully deleting off of the phone.
Is this not correct?
8bitKyle said:
Thank you for your reply.
I read on another forum that removing apps with ADB only "removes" for the current user. Not fully deleting off of the phone.
Is this not correct?
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No, it's fully uninstalled.
But the install file (apk) is continue in your phone. So, if you add a new account(or use adb) , they can come back.
After use this method to uninstall app, just storage will be use (apk file) . The pre-install app will never use any ram and battery.
(I use adb method to delete "file" app before, but I cannot re-install it by adb.
Finally I need to make a clean flash by newflasher to bring it back. )
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Hi! I have little questions...
1) I think is a stupid one: if I root my phone, can I install updates normally, or I have to flash them in a strange way (CMW recovery) ?
2) And if the answer is "yes", I have to do again and again the root's process (every time I do an update)? It means that every update does a sort of "unroot"..
3) And last question, it is not important, but I want to root my phone because I want to install this app that needs root.. i think is not very useful, but is great
Do you know apps that are very useful, and it need root permissions to work? (if I have to root my device only for 1 app, I won't do! )
suggest me please!
1) you can flash new firmwares with Flashtool
2) yes, you need to repeat the rooting procedure
3) bucketloads of them, my favs are Titanium Backup (great for backing up apps) and Paragon NTFS (can read NTFS drives, including disks connected to OTG)
And why is rooting the phone for 1 app a problem? If you want to use that one app, go for it. Not to mention that with rooting you can remove bloatware or unnecessary system apps
robogo1982 said:
Not to mention that with rooting you can remove bloatware or unnecessary system apps
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You can also just flash a stock ROM without rooting, which will get rid of bloatware.
1)it should look for your bootloader(BL) is locked or unlocked ,if your BL is locked ,you can update normally via PCC or SUS
otherwise you can't update normally and you have to flash new firmewares
2)yes ,you have to root again after update your phone
3) LMT will ask your root permission ,if you are not rooted ,LMT will work with Home function ONLY ,so root is needed to run LMT perfectly
i'm using LMT too ,same reason i choose to root my phone ,CAUTION that you don't unlock your BL ,because you will lost warranty and BE2 ,so be aware of
your BL.
I just bought a new Z3 compact phone and looking on how to install gmail 5.0 because Inbox is not what i need. I read that you can't unlock bootloader or root without losing DRM (or am i wrong?) Is it possible to maybe backup everything (including drm), root the device and whenever time comes and 5.0 is introduced officially go back to the backup (so you have the drm again).
Or another way to just install gmail 5.0
wardpeet said:
I just bought a new Z3 compact phone and looking on how to install gmail 5.0 because Inbox is not what i need. I read that you can't unlock bootloader or root without losing DRM (or am i wrong?) Is it possible to maybe backup everything (including drm), root the device and whenever time comes and 5.0 is introduced officially go back to the backup (so you have the drm again).
Or another way to just install gmail 5.0
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Why would you require root to install an App? Get it, install it. Done.
sxtester said:
Why would you require root to install an App? Get it, install it. Done.
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Not sure because the guide for gmail 5.0 tells me to rename some files in system/app which I can't because of no write access and mounting doesn't work due permissions.
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Hi,
I have a Nexus 6 that I am going to start using for work.
My work has a policy that they do not allow rooted devices.
I rooted my Nexus 6 simply to get LED LightFlow to trigger the hidden LED.
When I rooted I used the Nexus Root Toolkit from Wugfresh. I did not use a Custom Recovery and I kept the stock OS (5.0.1 LRX22C)
I really would rather not have to do a wipe/reset if I don't have to. I just need the device unrooted to adhear to company policy.
(and ideally to be able to get the 5.1 OTA when it is released later this month)
D.
GADGTGUY said:
Hi,
I have a Nexus 6 that I am going to start using for work.
My work has a policy that they do not allow rooted devices.
I rooted my Nexus 6 simply to get LED LightFlow to trigger the hidden LED.
When I rooted I used the Nexus Root Toolkit from Wugfresh. I did not use a Custom Recovery and I kept the stock OS (5.0.1 LRX22C)
I really would rather not have to do a wipe/reset if I don't have to. I just need the device unrooted to adhear to company policy.
(and ideally to be able to get the 5.1 OTA when it is released later this month)
D.
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Um how will you work know? do they have software they put on the phones? also if your worried just use root cloak. It hides root from set apps.
You can flash the images from the Google Stock image file, and skip userdata - that will restore your phone to stock, without wiping data. Look at the stickies in the general forum for N6
the_rooter said:
Um how will you work know? do they have software they put on the phones? also if your worried just use root cloak. It hides root from set apps.
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They push a BES client that checks. They already told me they know the phone is rooted. (big brother)
jj14 said:
You can flash the images from the Google Stock image file, and skip userdata - that will restore your phone to stock, without wiping data. Look at the stickies in the general forum for N6
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Thanks for this info....
I just noticed that in SuperSU there is a feature called: Full unroot
Can I simply do this and presto... the phone is unrooted?
Since I kept the stock OS and didn't put a custom recovery on the phone... do you think this might do the trick?
D.
GADGTGUY said:
I just noticed that in SuperSU there is a feature called: Full unroot
Can I simply do this and presto... the phone is unrooted?
Since I kept the stock OS and didn't put a custom recovery on the phone... do you think this might do the trick?
D.
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It may - but it still won't get you direct OTA (since OTA now checks for any change to system files)
GADGTGUY said:
[snip]I just noticed that in SuperSU there is a feature called: Full unroot
Can I simply do this and presto... the phone is unrooted?
Since I kept the stock OS and didn't put a custom recovery on the phone... do you think this might do the trick?
D.
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Just to echo what jj14 said. The "Full unroot" option in SuperSU will remove root, but it won't (at least it hadn't on the last version of it that I tried) revert one file that root modifies, so, while you won't have root, and the BES client should work, the update checks the entire file system, so it will fail. A quick flash of only the system.img file using fastboot will remove root and leave everything else untouched.
Thanks for all the advice guys!
I appreciate the assistance... this is why this community rocks!
D.
I should have paid closer attention to the Nexus Root Toolkit from WugFresh.
There is a built in option that unroots without a refresh.
D'oh
D.
GADGTGUY said:
I should have paid closer attention to the Nexus Root Toolkit from WugFresh.
There is a built in option that unroots without a refresh.
D'oh
D.
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Many of us would recommend you learn fastboot commands manually rather than relying on toolkits. This helps you get out of trouble when things go wrong. That said, its too late now
Good day!
I am new here and I am interested with rooting my HTC ONE M7.
My purpose is to install a certain app which requires it. (XMOD games)
Before I do this I just want to ask a few questions and I hope you can help me.
1. Is it required to unlock the bootloader? or there is an option to not unlock it?
2. Granting that I have rooted my HTC ONE, can I still get updates on my OS if it prompts me to update it?
3. I watched some videos here and learned I need to unlock and then root, is that all I need to get the XMOD games app working?
For now I am only interested with using that app.
4. After unlocking the bootloader, it says it will be back to stock settings, can I restore my backup in my HTC SYNC manager and then proceed with rooting next? or I need to unlock + root and then restore?
I want to restore my back up using the HTC SYNC manager so that I wont have to install the apps and lose some other info.
TIA
jaypeeb0917 said:
Good day!
I am new here and I am interested with rooting my HTC ONE M7.
My purpose is to install a certain app which requires it. (XMOD games)
Before I do this I just want to ask a few questions and I hope you can help me.
1. Is it required to unlock the bootloader? or there is an option to not unlock it?
2. Granting that I have rooted my HTC ONE, can I still get updates on my OS if it prompts me to update it?
3. I watched some videos here and learned I need to unlock and then root, is that all I need to get the XMOD games app working?
For now I am only interested with using that app.
4. After unlocking the bootloader, it says it will be back to stock settings, can I restore my backup in my HTC SYNC manager and then proceed with rooting next? or I need to unlock + root and then restore?
I want to restore my back up using the HTC SYNC manager so that I wont have to install the apps and lose some other info.
TIA
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1. yes you need to unlock
2. you must be full stock to update, but rooting requires flashing of a custom recovery first, recommended is the latest version of TWRP recovery: http://dl.twrp.me/m7/ then put this on your inernal storage and flash it to get root: http://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/ you will need stock recovery back to update, however, no one is sure if the M7 is going to get anymore updates yet, its pretty EOL
3. see answer 2
4. yes unlocking wipes the phone / factory reset, so backup everything first, unlock, flash recovery, root, reboot and restore.
I need more reading to pull this off without any problem. I've been reading some nasty stuff and I need to be careful.
I was under the impression that rooting is easy breezy. lol
Thanks a lot for answering my questions mate.
Ive uploaded a fully working root method of kingoroot that roots the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 LMY48B firmware
I have used it myself with uk stock nexus 5 and all works just thought i would upload so other people can benefit from this instead of using a pc enjoy
anyone tested this yet? i am to scared to try xD
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anyone tested this yet? i am to scared to try xD
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working fine.. tested by me
Yes, this can also root from COMPLETE stock without the need of a computer of any kind. May want to add that to thread title if possible to let others know it can be used to root LMY48B(At Least) without the need of a computer to unlock bootloader first and without the need of a custom recovery first. Just install Kingroot then use KingUser(I Believe That Is The Super User App It Installs, Do NOT Install Another SuperUser App Yet Until After Custom Recovery Installed) and use KingUser to allow custom recovery App permissions to install recovery then use that recovery to install SuperUser binaries properly.
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Why? It's a Nexus.
fastboot oem unlock
flash supersu zip file.
GldRush98 said:
Why? It's a Nexus.
fastboot oem unlock
flash supersu zip file.
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He just said why on the first post...lol
So you dont need a pc
Its just an easier method if you ask me and for unlocking bootloader you just need to download the nexus 5 unlock bootloader app from google play to unlock bootloader then just install twrp manager from google play and theres your root bootloader unlock and custom recovery but thats upto the user as other people do it there way
It's remarkable what I'm willing to download and install from XDA sometimes.
Anyway, it certainly rooted my device without needing to hook it up to a PC. Threw two "this is bypassing android security" messages. Hope it didn't do anything else :/
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This also leaves you with an app called Kinguser, which is used to grant root permission to other apps, which can't be removed.
I think I'll feel better if I wipe and start over...
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This also leaves you with an app called Kinguser, which is used to grant root permission to other apps, which can't be removed.
I think I'll feel better if I wipe and start over...
All you do is use KingUser to grant permission to TWRP Manager to install TWRP and then use SuperSU to install SU through recovery THEN you can easily use SuperSU to grant permissions to any app that'll allow you to remove KingUser. That way you always have an app that can grant SU at all times without going ANY time at all without a SuoerUser app
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All you do is use KingUser to grant permission to TWRP Manager to install TWRP and then use SuperSU to install SU through recovery THEN you can easily use SuperSU to grant permissions to any app that'll allow you to remove KingUser. That way you always have an app that can grant SU at all times without going ANY time at all without a SuoerUser app
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Tried that but SuperSU kept failing to install. Ended up just wiping and going from scratch. The whole Kingroot sending data home to a server just didn't sit well with me. I know they've addressed that they do it to keep track of success rates and don't collect any personal data.
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Tried that but SuperSU kept failing to install. Ended up just wiping and going from scratch. The whole Kingroot sending data home to a server just didn't sit well with me. I know they've addressed that they do it to keep track of success rates and don't collect any personal data.
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Failed to install returning SuperSU?
Will this wipe all data the way unlocking the bootloader does?
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ddimple4 said:
Will this wipe all data the way unlocking the bootloader does?
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No, wiping data only happens when you unlock bootloader through the bootloader. . . not through the OS. I believe only of you use the Farnborough method instead of manually doing so inside of OS
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My friend has nexus 5 tmobile. Will this work? If so any additional steps?
Hi. I'm a newbie in root matter. My nexus 5 is already in LMY48b 5.1.1. Hong Kong stock ROM. So far there's only one reason I want to root it, it is to let some call recorder apps to record incoming voice clearly. So at this stage I don't need to flash any custom ROM. I dug for a certain time of course I can find many teaching how to root, but most of them look like it involves many procedures, many terms or apps, unlock bootloader, android SDK, twrp, custom recovery, etc... it makes me so scared even to give it a try. Until I saw this thread and I think the kingroot app probably the simplest one for my case! In fact I can get it done with a Chinese root way, it's also very simple but I also heard that most likely there's spyware inside so I leave it.
So what I want to make sure is my thought above is it correct? I try not to annoy you guys, any answer simply either yes or no is appreciated. Of course if you guys want to tell me more it is most welcome.
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lookgod88 said:
Hi. I'm a newbie in root matter. My nexus 5 is already in LMY48b 5.1.1. Hong Kong stock ROM. So far there's only one reason I want to root it, it is to let some call recorder apps to record incoming voice clearly. So at this stage I don't need to flash any custom ROM. I dug for a certain time of course I can find many teaching how to root, but most of them look like it involves many procedures, many terms or apps, unlock bootloader, android SDK, twrp, custom recovery, etc... it makes me so scared even to give it a try. Until I saw this thread and I think the kingroot app probably the simplest one for my case! In fact I can get it done with a Chinese root way, it's also very simple but I also heard that most likely there's spyware inside so I leave it.
So what I want to make sure is my thought above is it correct? I try not to annoy you guys, any answer simply either yes or no is appreciated. Of course if you guys want to tell me more it is most welcome.
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may be you can try the nexus toolkit, http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
beware that when unlock the bootloader all data will lost (factory reset), you can use something like helium to make a backup first (for back app data)
DummyPLUG said:
may be you can try the nexus toolkit, http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
beware that when unlock the bootloader all data will lost (factory reset), you can use something like helium to make a backup first (for back app data)
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Hi dummyplug, thank you for your reply and your referring. But I actually don't need to flash ROM, that's why I thought that I don't need to unlock the bootloader either. Do I?
lookgod88 said:
Hi dummyplug, thank you for your reply and your referring. But I actually don't need to flash ROM, that's why I thought that I don't need to unlock the bootloader either. Do I?
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The reason to unlock the bootloader is because if it is locked you can't run custom recovery (not flash, just a temp boot up with custom recovery), which is need for the root process, in short, you need to unlock the boot loader before you can do anything.
something like kingroot can bypass the need of an unlocked bootloader, so you actually can use kingroot to root your nexus first, then use those bootloader unlocker from play store to unlock the bootloader, but I will stay away from those tools because I don't trust them.
the toolkit can help you to unlock the bootloader and root, and do something else.
p.s. that means you need an unlocked bootloader to root, meanwhile can keep all other things (recovery, firmware) as stock.
DummyPLUG said:
The reason to unlock the bootloader is because if it is locked you can't run custom recovery (not flash, just a temp boot up with custom recovery), which is need for the root process, in short, you need to unlock the boot loader before you can do anything.
something like kingroot can bypass the need of an unlocked bootloader, so you actually can use kingroot to root your nexus first, then use those bootloader unlocker from play store to unlock the bootloader, but I will stay away from those tools because I don't trust them.
the toolkit can help you to unlock the bootloader and root, and do something else.
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Oh I see. Now I understand! Thank you very much. I got what I want to know.