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There is an iPhone 3G app called VOiPover3G that tricks other iPhone apps into thinking that they are on Wi-Fi even though they are on 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
Is anything like this being looked at/developed for Android phones??
Please post questions about apps in the correct subforum. This will probably get locked...
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
JaboJG said:
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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It would allow programs like sipdroid (the market version) to think it was on wifi and when we finally get something like Fring for Android that would also be able to use the data package to make voip calls, even "real" skype calls.
It is in the wrong part of the forum, but I might as well answer it...
While the iPhone doesn't allow certain services over 3G (e.g. VoIP stuff), the current Android handsets + apps don't do such a thing.
e.g. Sipdroid works fine over edge/umts/wifi (as good as those networks can support VoIP).
It's really kind of a strange question to be honest. If there isn't a problem, don't ask questions about it
JaboJG said:
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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Not to harp on the point made by Diceman4, but it really isn't the correct sub-forum. If you look at the Stickies in the Apps/Games sub-forum, you will see that one of them is regarding request/ideas for applications.
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I don't see any development going on in the first post though. This seems more like a post for the "ideas for apps" thread in app subforum. Although if the op came back with a chunk of code that needed debugging, that would be a different story.
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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
robiom said:
The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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Why? a better bet would be to ask the sipdroid creator to include a user configurable port setting. The point of android is that the workarounds don't need to be workarounds on the phone, but rather workrounds for interfacing with the network.
robiom said:
The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
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The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
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If you use pbxes there are a handful of different ports that will work but I haven't been able to get any to work. Saying that, up till recently I was using Gizmo5 but pbxes have blocked it's use after they (Gizmo5) allegedly stole/used sipdroid code and renamed it as if it was there own.
If any one has had success with sipdroid on 3g etc on t-mob UK please post the sip provider and the settings used.
Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
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Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
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Been there, done that, even got the T-shirt.
The problem is T-mob in the UK are a pain in the neck and are blocking the port 5060.
As someone has already mentioned in this thread, what is needed is a user configurable port so that T-mob UK can't block.
Let's hope sipdroid developers can do something along those lines.
I don't get it... have you tried all the alternative ports listed in pbxes website?
53, 69, 80, 135, 161, 443, 500, 1433, 1701, 1812, 3389, 4500, 5061, 5900, 16999, 26999 and
36999 (recommended)
Note:
Because of the DNS entries for pbxes.org your device may be selecting port 5060 automatically. If you want to use an alternative port enter 188.40.65.148 as SIP server.
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Both of them work as UDP or TCP.
TCP is recommended as it will help with battery life.
If none of these ports work, then It has to be that T-mobile has a Layer 7 filter in place looking for the SIP signaling traffic, and there should be no workaround possible unless you can wrap your sip traffic in a VPN. Nothing can be done to stop that, unless they filter the whole L2TP,PPTP,IPSEC or OpenVPN protocols.
I have tried most if not all of the ports specified and still no joy BUT I'll give it another go. What SIP provider do you use?
If T-mob are killing all SIP traffic how is it possible to use sipdriod over VPN?? Surely that is a major undertaking?
If it was done though, it would be the most robust and bulletproof VOIP app and would never be stopped Brilliant
I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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Changing phones WILL NOT work since it isn't the phone that is causing the problem, it is the provider.
VPN should be fine, but you'll need a VPN server somewhere to connect through, i.e., your home computer.
There is nothing a carrier can do to block SIP over VPN. Everything is tunneled over the VPN connection so they can't know what goes in there.
As soon as we have a reliable VPN service (Donut seems to have PPTP or L2TP, although I'd love to see OpenVPN there) , you'll ve able to set-up your own voip and vpn server and pipe all the voice through it.
There is a couple of VoIP providers who can do that for you. One that comes to mind is callwithus.
On the connection issue with t-mobile, I suggest you try this:
If you have a DMZ linux/cygwin (altough a windows box might make it) host or a shell anywhere you can test if your provider is locking those ports, the pbxes ip or maybe even the SIP traffic.
Listen in a port using netcat:
netcat -n -l -vvvv 5060
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Launch the Terminal Emulator in your android phone and test if you can connect to your host:
nc <your_hostname> 5060
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Type something... if you can see the text, they have a L7 filter in place.
If you can't see anything, they are blocking the port.
Now change the listening port to 36999 for instance.
Try to connect again. It should work.
Now in Sipdroid, add your hostname, give it any username, any password, use the 36999 port and select TCP connection and keep the netcat running on your listening host.
If you see a connection in your listening host and some signalling traffic, pbxes should work for you.
If you don't, then there's a really advance L7 filter between you and the internet and they can block anything they want to.
In this case, the only solution (and there's nothing they can do unless they also block it), is to use a VPN.
Thanks guys for all your suggestions. I'll try and go through all the procedures you've suggested stickman and I'll post the results
OK, this took a lot of trial and error, some bravery on my part, and SEVERAL calls to AT&T, but I finally got it working!* I am not a Dev anywhere CLOSE to the likes of DG, but I do have extensive knowledge of hacking mobile devices in general, GSM networks, CS/PS infrastructure, and industry experience from the NOC side of several MSOs (aka ISPs), so I tackled this problem from a "what would I implement if I were AT&T and wanted to force a tethering package on subscribers?" Point of view, and worked backwards from there.
Many have tried the solution already posted, and I give credit to the poster of that original "fix" while respectfully pointing out that using this "fix" accomplished AT&T deleting my data package twice, and provisioning a tethering plan automatically once, all automatically done by the system. This was not the solution I was looking for.
So, without further introductions/banter on my part, here is the step-by-step... I will try to keep explanations to a minimum for now, if they are asked for I will put them in post #2.
*Prerequisites: ROOT
*Tools required: Root Explorer, SQLite Editor (both available in market, yes they are paid apps but they are WORTH EVERY PENNY!)
----note: this can also be accomplished using adb and a sqlite database editor on your pc, but requires many, many more steps, and won't work after reboot unless you have a working busybox and can successfully chown/chmod the .db file after you copy it back to the device, and even then I still had trouble with it after reboot, so... I had success with these paid apps, so I'm writing the tutorial assuming you have them. If there is enough demand I'll write an alternate tutorial on how to do this using free tools.
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++++++++++++ Edited, now shorter! Thanks to all for testing these settings, the new steps are confirmed working!
*(if you used the steps prior to my editing them, you're good, your settings will work fine, the changes reflect a different, shorter way to do this)
1) Create a NEW access point setting using the following settings: (SETTINGS>WIRELESS AND NETWORKS>MOBILE NETWORKS>ACCESS POINT NAMES> {press menu} NEW APN
Name: whatever you like here, I use att
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy:
Port:
Username:
Password:
Server:
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication Type:
APN Type: default,agps,fota,supl,fota,tether,mms
(all settings I left blank, leave blank, make sure you press menu, save to save)</br>
2) Enable Airplane Mode
(hold power button for three seconds, select Airplane Mode)
3) Open Root Explorer
4) Navigate to: /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/
5) Click on "telephony.db"** (this should open the db using SQLite Editor)
6) Select "carriers"
7) You should see a long list of APN settings for various carriers, the ones you are interested in are rows 4, 6, and 7. Scroll ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT and the last column should be labeled "preloaded." You will notice that each is labeled "true" press and hold the word "true" in row 4 and select "Edit Field" from the pop up menu. Change the "true" to "false" and click "Save". Repeat this step for rows 6 and 7.
7b) Edit the type field of row 6. Right now the field says "tether". Change it so that it says "default,agps,fota,supl,fota,tether"
7c) Change the APN field in row 6 from BROADBAND to wap.cingular
8) Press back twice to close the SQLite editor and you should be back in Root Explorer. Close Root Explorer.
9) Disable Airplane Mode
10) Go back to the list of APNs you saw in step 1. You should see that the "locked padlock" is now unlocked on the preloaded APNs named AT&T US, AT&T US HSDPA, and AT&T TETHER. You now need to edit the one labeled AT&T TETHER. Change the following settings:
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy:
Proxy port:
APN type:
Press menu, save.
11) Select the radio button for the APN you created in step one. AT&T Tether.
12) Reboot phone.
13) Enjoy! Mobile Hotspot should now work first time no issues!
Note: (Due to some pre-existing (bug?) in the software, you do need to have wifi turned on BEFORE you enable Mobile Hotspot for it to set up properly. If you forget it will hang until you enable wifi.)
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After staying up all night to figure this out, I have confirmed that using the Webtop without dock MOD combined with mine you CAN use webtop with your 3G/H+ connection!!! No wifi required!
Steps to make this work:
1) Connect Webtop
2) Using the window that allows you to control the regular phone interface, navigate to the ACCESS POINT NAMES menu described in step 1 above.
3) Select the radio button next to "AT&T Tethering"
Done! Open firefox and enjoy!
Credits to Fenny, author of the MOD to enable Webtop without dock!
Also designgears, author of Adeo, which is necessary to run aforesaid MOD!
And to t0dbld, who contributed significantly and led the discussion that resulted in said MOD.
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If this helped you great! I'm glad I could help! I am not asking for donations! If you still feel like this saved you enough money to buy me a beer, my paypal email's in my profile.
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Thanks for the tutorial. Does this allow the laptop dock and media dock to work without using wifi?
airbillion said:
Thanks for the tutorial. Does this allow the laptop dock and media dock to work without using wifi?
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It should, though I personally own neither, and therefore have not tested that particular functionality. There is no way that I am aware of that AT&T SHOULD be able to tell any difference between traffic from tethered devices and traffic from the device itself, so unless they are packet sniffing (illegal for ISPs, somewhat hazy regulation on wireless service providers, but would be a BIG shock to me if they were) or there is something in the actual webtop ubuntu software that would inform AT&T that webtop is being used somehow (also HIGHLY unlikely, as it would be a HUGE invasion of privacy) the answer is YES!
PLEASE if you have access to either of these $$$$$ expensive docks if you wouldn't mind test this for me and report back to confirm that indeed it does allow use without wifi.
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It should, though I personally own neither, and therefore have not tested that particular functionality. There is no way that I am aware of that AT&T SHOULD be able to tell any difference between traffic from tethered devices and traffic from the device itself, so unless they are packet sniffing (illegal for ISPs, somewhat hazy regulation on wireless service providers, but would be a BIG shock to me if they were) or there is something in the actual webtop ubuntu software that would inform AT&T that webtop is being used somehow (also HIGHLY unlikely, as it would be a HUGE invasion of privacy) the answer is YES!
PLEASE if you have access to either of these $$$$$ expensive docks if you wouldn't mind test this for me and report back to confirm that indeed it does allow use without wifi.
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Cool thanks for the info. I have the hd dock and will give it a shot and post the results . I hope it works!
@airbillion
Thanks for your help!
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ah crap, i accidentally deleted the ATT Tether profile, can you give me the settings please?
Thanks!
or even better, attach the original sq file?
I hate that you are probably on final steps, but... You cannot re-create the AT&T Tethering profile manually, as this will break the functionality of the script that Mobile hotspot uses to "Verify" that you have a tethering plan...
Please go to your APN list, and press MENU>Restore Default Settings
Then (sorry) start over from step 1
richhed said:
I hate that you are probably on final steps, but... You cannot re-create the AT&T Tethering profile manually, as this will break the functionality of the script that Mobile hotspot uses to "Verify" that you have a tethering plan...
Please go to your APN list, and press MENU>Restore Default Settings
Then (sorry) start over from step 1
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ahh didnt see that, thanks!
I can confirm that this works great - you no longer get stuck at "setting up data link" (so no more changing APNs to fix that).
Although, I tried the newly found webtop hack which allows you to just connect the HDMI cable to a TV and run webtop - it does not work without wifi. If you try turning off wifi and use 3g, it says "communicating with ATT to see if webtop something something" and nothing loads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980193
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I can confirm that this works great - you no longer get stuck at "setting up data link" (so no more changing APNs to fix that).
Although, I tried the newly found webtop hack which allows you to just connect the HDMI cable to a TV and run webtop - it does not work without wifi. If you try turning off wifi and use 3g, it says "communicating with ATT to see if webtop something something" and nothing loads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980193
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Good work richhed!
Wifi hotspot works, but it does not seem to work with the hd dock over 3g only with wifi. There must be another check somewhere along the way. Too bad, hopefully we canfigure it out soon though.
I'm using the Atrix in Australia on the 3/Vodafone network, is there a way I can get it to work?
richhed said:
OK, this took a lot of trial and error, some bravery on my part, and SEVERAL calls to AT&T, but I finally got it working!* I am not a Dev anywhere CLOSE to the likes of DG, but I do have extensive knowledge of hacking mobile devices in general, GSM networks, CS/PS infrastructure, and industry experience from the NOC side of several MSOs (aka ISPs), so I tackled this problem from a "what would I implement if I were AT&T and wanted to force a tethering package on subscribers?" Point of view, and worked backwards from there.
Many have tried the solution already posted, and I give credit to the poster of that original "fix" while respectfully pointing out that using this "fix" accomplished AT&T deleting my data package twice, and provisioning a tethering plan automatically once, all automatically done by the system. This was not the solution I was looking for.
So, without further introductions/banter on my part, here is the step-by-step... I will try to keep explanations to a minimum for now, if they are asked for I will put them in post #2.
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great find on unlocking there crap !! btw if you delete the apn type or the apn all together for the tethering etc you wont have to do the wifi on off thing, you have to do that because sometimes its still defaulting to the apn that is strictly tethering
airbillion said:
Good work richhed!
Wifi hotspot works, but it does not seem to work with the hd dock over 3g only with wifi. There must be another check somewhere along the way. Too bad, hopefully we canfigure it out soon though.
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Yes it does , i would check your settings again , jsut because the blue tethering active comes up does not mean it is tethering an active connection, recheck your settings and try again, working fine here
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Yes it does , i would check your settings again , jsut because the blue tethering active comes up does not mean it is tethering an active connection, recheck your settings and try again, working fine here
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Have you tried it on the laptop dock or the hd dock?
The wifi hotspot works for my ipad.
I'll check again, but for me when I start up firefox on the hd dock it hangs on: checking att for plan....
Edit:
Just tried it again on my hd dock after a reboot and it now works! Thanks
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If there is enough demand I'll write an alternate tutorial on how to do this using free tools.
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I for one would be interested in a tutorial with the alternative method!
Nice job! This hack is based on the same principle as the TBH NVRAM tether hack that we released for Droid devices except yours is done by changing the APN in the system and ours is done by changing the Tethered NAI(Network Access Identifier) strings in the NVM because that is where the carrier data authentication components are actually stored in CDMA phones. With GSM all of that is stored in the SIM card itself and is not accessible in the NVM.
The change does functionally the same thing, that being making all data use appear to the network as internal data rather than flagged as an externally tethered device.
Congratulations!
uhm I tried this, when i launch with internal viewer, i cannot edit. but when i try to launch with the db editor, it wont open cuz it says no network connect (since we turned on airplane mode)
EDIT: nvm I needed to download the editor from the market since I didnt have one installed.
Can we delete all of the other APN settings without ill-effect?
ikenley said:
I'm using the Atrix in Australia on the 3/Vodafone network, is there a way I can get it to work?
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ikenley,
I am less familiar with your network, and I'll also need more information:
1) Are you using a US, AT&T branded Atrix?
2) What are the DEFAULT, working APN(s) for 3/Vodafone "smartphone" data plans?
3) Do these APN(s) require login credentials, and
4) Do they proxy their smartphone data plan
Unfortunately, if the answer to #4 is yes, then the answer is no, it (probably) won't work. Also, if they require a login, it depends on the type.
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I for one would be interested in a tutorial with the alternative method!
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LOL, I was hoping that you wouldn't say that
Every time I personally tried I couldn't get it to stick on reboot, I think I may have been doing something wrong with the chown or something. Give me a few days I'll keep at it ;-)
BTW, if you have a basic knowledge of adb, and bash or busybox or any linux based command line terminal, basically you follow all steps the same except when you are editing the .db you'll need to copy that file to the sdcard, then to your pc, then edit it, then copy it back to sdcard, then back to /data/data/com.android.provider.telephony/databases/ and THEN you have to use adb shell to chown/chmod the file to the proper settings. I think it may be that the group ownership is changed to sdcard when you move the file... Anyway I'll work on it.
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Is this out yet i really need tether so i was wondering if its out or be out soon for native tethering thank you
i tether on tmobile all the time. i have an unlimited high speed data plan, that comes with 3gb tethering. i use the default tether app until i hit my 3gb limit. after i hit my limit, i use the wifi tether router app(need root). using that app, tmobile has no idea im tethering.
Which app is that I tried an app it says my carrier has blocked it or something thank you
bambam126 said:
Which app is that I tried an app it says my carrier has blocked it or something thank you
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wifi tether router. its not free, but its worth the small price. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.snclab.wifitetherrouter&hl=en
I tried that didn't work
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I tried that didn't work
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did you set it up or use it as-is? you need to set it up.
I set my PW and name
Sorry if I sound like a noon :/
bambam126 said:
I tried that didn't work
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Developer asked that I test, and I can confirm that the latest version of WiFi Tether Router is working.
Settings he provided:
Interface wlan0
Method 2
Channel 1
Encryption wpa2-psk
"No Firmware Reload" <- UNCHECKED
Then reboot, then give it a try, it should work (root required, it resets the radio).
Does this really work on the Nexus 6? i have tried editing the build.prop but that didnt work. I sure hope this works.
You can use native tethering without T-Mobile knowing with the sqlite edit. You don't need an app.
Does the sqlite edit of adding in tether_dun_required work for unlimited tethering as well? I've only used 3.5gb of my 5gb in my plan. I have T-Mobiles unlimited LTE data plan and I want to make sure it will allow me to tether without any additional apps.
Pilz said:
Does the sqlite edit of adding in tether_dun_required work for unlimited tethering as well? I've only used 3.5gb of my 5gb in my plan. I have T-Mobiles unlimited LTE data plan and I want to make sure it will allow me to tether without any additional apps.
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It uses your unlimited data plan, not your tethering allotment.
There are two easy methods:
1. Go to Settings-> "More..." (under Data Usage) -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names
Click the APN "T-Mobile US GPRS" (or whichever is selected), scroll down to "APN Type", click that, and add ",dun" to the end of the list (so the
list should say "default,mms,supl,dun")
then hit okay.
*2 .Open the following file in SQLite Editor (or transfer to computer and open there):
/data/data/com.android.provider.settings/databases/settings.db
Open the "global" table and add the following entry:
label: tether_dun_required
value: 0
Exit and reboot
*Depending on your method of choice, there are SQLite Editors, free and for purchase, for both Android and computer.
bambam126 said:
Is this out yet i really need tether so i was wondering if its out or be out soon for native tethering thank you
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All you need to do is execute the following command:
Code:
adb shell content insert --uri content://settings/global --bind name:s:tether_dun_required --bind value:i:0
Just make sure you enable adb and have proper drivers to make it work. No root needed, no special edits needed either.
Pilz said:
Does the sqlite edit of adding in tether_dun_required work for unlimited tethering as well? I've only used 3.5gb of my 5gb in my plan. I have T-Mobiles unlimited LTE data plan and I want to make sure it will allow me to tether without any additional apps.
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I have the truly unlimited with no tethering allotment, and I can tether perfectly with the sqlite edit.
PaisanNYC said:
I have the truly unlimited with no tethering allotment, and I can tether perfectly with the sqlite edit.
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That's good news, I'm going to use and abuse it on my road trip in 2 days. My wife is still on Att until her Moto X 2014 Pure gets here and then she will be on T-Mobile with me. I was going go use my hotspot for her while driving so she doesn't waste her data.
Thank you so much the ,dun worked!!! Enjoying endless internet at home!!!
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AkumaZeto said:
Thank you so much the ,dun worked!!! Enjoying endless internet at home!!!
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Just adding dun and I noticed my tethering data is still rising when checking the app, I'm going to try the sqlite edit
p-slim said:
Just adding dun and I noticed my tethering data is still rising when checking the app, I'm going to try the sqlite edit
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You need to do the sqlite edit. Works like a charm.
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You need to do the sqlite edit. Works like a charm.
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Thanks man, greatly appreciate the response
I tried the old Lollipop trick - using an sql editor to dig in /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/
Now, when I looked in that directory, it was empty. Looks like they moved those settings elsewhere to try to force more people to pay carrier tethering extortion fees.
Anyone know how to get a Marshmallow Nexus 6 to tether? Without paying? Hold the sanctimonious lectures.
yes, i tether every day, no issues. but my tmobile plan includes 7gb tethering. if you want to tether illegally, go back to lolipop. oh, btw, i dont have to pay for tethering, as tmobile lets me tether enough, legally.
What's illegal about tethering? The FCC already told Verizon that tethering was not illegal, nor is it theft. Contrary to popular belief, I too pay my phone bill. What's so magical about tethered bits that makes them such a burden on the carriers compared to non-tethered bits?
meldroc said:
I tried the old Lollipop trick - using an sql editor to dig in /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/
Now, when I looked in that directory, it was empty. Looks like they moved those settings elsewhere to try to force more people to pay carrier tethering extortion fees.
Anyone know how to get a Marshmallow Nexus 6 to tether? Without paying? Hold the sanctimonious lectures.
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No lectures. Flash Chroma 6.0 As of now if is basically a stock ROM with very very few baked in goodies.
I just edited my build prop... Same as lollipop
meldroc said:
What's illegal about tethering? The FCC already told Verizon that tethering was not illegal, nor is it theft. Contrary to popular belief, I too pay my phone bill. What's so magical about tethered bits that makes them such a burden on the carriers compared to non-tethered bits?
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its legal unless you have unlimited data. then its legal for the providers to put limits on tethering. tmobile offers all their limited plans unlimited tethering, but their completely unlimited data plans get only 7gb tethering. why only 7gb? because its meant for your mobile devices, not to add data to your home internet. read the law, understand it, instead of just listening to what others are saying. magical, nothing. but those that are tethering for their home internet are ruining the services for others. anyways, im not innocent, but i actually know what the law says. and it is stealing.
I'm on jdx 4.0 on cricket. I tether no problem and cricket says you can't tether.
I tried editing build.prop and changing apn to ipv4 but no luck... Not sure if I was doing it right, I used to do the database edit with sql editor. Can anyone post what needs to be changed/added?
as long as your carrier allows it, Use Root Browser to edit build.prop open with RB Text Editor and add net.tethering.noprovisioning=true at the bottom. Save reboot
jasonftfw said:
I tried editing build.prop and changing apn to ipv4 but no luck... Not sure if I was doing it right, I used to do the database edit with sql editor. Can anyone post what needs to be changed/added?
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you need to set SElinux to be permissive in marshmellow to edit system files. many dont know this, since their custom kernels have it set to permissive already. but you can get an app(not at the play store) or set it via terminal emulator.
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you need to set SElinux to be permissive in marshmellow to edit system files. many dont know this, since their custom kernels have it set to permissive already. but you can get an app(not at the play store) or set it via terminal emulator.
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How can I check my selinux? I thought it was supposed to be listed in about device, or did that move to somewhere else in the new OS?
jasonftfw said:
How can I check my selinux? I thought it was supposed to be listed in about device, or did that move to somewhere else in the new OS?
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its set as enforcing by default. i dont think theres a setting anywhere to check though.
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i posted a link to a SElinux app in this thread.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/issues-editing-build-prop-marshmallow-t3222551
I edited build.prop in recovery and can tether fine.
Sent from my Nexus 6
Works fine on LightRom with T-Mobile for me.
After I edit build.prob and reboot, my tablet will connect to the hotspot, but it had the exclamation over the WiFi icon and won't connect to anything. Any ideas?
meldroc said:
I tried the old Lollipop trick - using an sql editor to dig in /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/
Now, when I looked in that directory, it was empty. Looks like they moved those settings elsewhere to try to force more people to pay carrier tethering extortion fees.
Anyone know how to get a Marshmallow Nexus 6 to tether? Without paying? Hold the sanctimonious lectures.
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No they are there in the same place, app needs to be updated to be able to see them or something. I tried different apps, was able to see them with one, forgot which one, but wasn't able to edit with the app.
This module *should* hide you data usage while tethering, allowing you to have, in theory, unlimited tethering. I just threw it together and it is NOT fully tested to see if it 100% prevents monitoring of data usage. Let me know you thoughts.
dustintinsley said:
This module *should* hide you data usage while tethering, allowing you to have, in theory, unlimited tethering. I just threw it together and it is NOT fully tested to see if it 100% prevents monitoring of data usage. Let me know you thoughts.
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Might be a good idea to share the methodology basics you are using instead of folks needing to install and stress test their limited tethering. From what I have seen on my T-Mobile account, creating a noprovisioning custom prop like this https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/how-to-native-tethering-rooted-pixel-3-t3858662 is working and continues to work on Android 10.
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Might be a good idea to share the methodology basics you are using instead of folks needing to install and stress test their limited tethering. From what I have seen on my T-Mobile account, creating a noprovisioning custom prop like this https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/how-to-native-tethering-rooted-pixel-3-t3858662 is working and continues to work on Android 10.
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The method used is my module is exactly the same as your link, with the addition of also editing the T-Mobile APNs to add "dun" to the APN.
dustintinsley said:
The method used is my module is exactly the same as your link, with the addition of also editing the T-Mobile APNs to add "dun" to the APN.
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Good deal. I have been hesitant to add DUN to the apn type since I am seeing no tethering charges. Mind you, I also use it so infrequently that even if they were to see my usage it wouldn't exceed my cap.
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Good deal. I have been hesitant to add DUN to the apn type since I am seeing no tethering charges. Mind you, I also use it so infrequently that even if they were to see my usage it would exceed my cap.
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it seems to work very well with it added...
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it seems to work very well with it added...
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Since I have everything else done already, can you send me the value string you have saved in the APN type?
Hey @dustintinsley, first I appreciate this little mod. Thank you.
I just flashed via TWRP, I will do some testing to see if it's working, but one thing you mentioned, it also adds dun. Well after I flashed and booted, I went to settings mobile data apn and reset the apn, and I'm not seeing ,dun under apn type. Should it be there? Or no?
Thanks Dustin
EDIT: ok, few hours later, after I flashed your mod in twrp.
I watched YouTube for like an hour straight, and I just got a notification saying I used a certain % of my hotspot data. So unless I did something wrong, it's being reported as hotspot and it's definitely not working for me..
I'm on the OnePlus 7 pro, Android 10 on T-mobile. With TWRP 3.3.1-70 by muaranofrio and magisk canary.
Please advise. Thank you again Dustin
No need to reset your APN after flashing. Can you take a screenshot of your APN settings? DUN should be there but I may have missed some APNs so a screenshot could help
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No need to reset your APN after flashing. Can you take a screenshot of your APN settings? DUN should be there but I may have missed some APNs so a screenshot could help
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No problem, appreciate your time.
Ok I didn't reset. Here is the screens of the apn after I flashed your zip in twrp.
Is the module creating a new APN or attempting to modify the existing (grayed out) one?
Sheetzie03 said:
No problem, appreciate your time.
Ok I didn't reset. Here is the screens of the apn after I flashed your zip in twrp.
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Odd. I will have a look at it. I am also on a OnePlus 7 Pro, but on Android 9 still. Maybe it is something with Android 10? I will have to install 10 and have a look.
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Is the module creating a new APN or attempting to modify the existing (grayed out) one?
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Neither. Flashing the mod doesn't change anything in settings apns.
It's greyed out b4 I flash the mod, and greyed out after, with no changes either.
Understand?
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Odd. I will have a look at it. I am also on a OnePlus 7 Pro, but on Android 9 still. Maybe it is something with Android 10? I will have to install 10 and have a look.
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Thank you , sorry for trouble.
One other thing that I'm thinking might be important to mention, after flashing ur mod, while there are no changes made to the apn in settings, I did notice there are a bunch of different changes in the apns xml file in system-etc
Thanks again, I'll wait to hear from you. Later
Sheetzie03 said:
Neither. Flashing the mod doesn't change anything in settings apns.
It's greyed out b4 I flash the mod, and greyed out after, with no changes either.
Understand?
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Yeah, that is exactly why I asked. Unless it is editable in the first place, the workaround I thought was always to create a new APN. Your screenshots looked like the module was trying to make in-place edits unsuccessfully.
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Yeah, that is exactly why I asked. Unless it is editable in the first place, the workaround I thought was always to create a new APN. Your screenshots looked like the module was trying to make in-place edits unsuccessfully.
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Yeah I see what you mean.
But this mod is specifically for TMobile and the op has the same device as I do. Maybe it's Android 10. Although didn't you say earlier that on Android 10 there is a way to get it working?
Hope Dustin can work his magic anyway. ?
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Yeah I see what you mean.
But this mod is specifically for TMobile and the op has the same device as I do. Maybe it's Android 10. Although didn't you say earlier that on Android 10 there is a way to get it working?
Hope Dustin can work his magic anyway. ?
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Yes, I am also on T-Mobile and Android 10 just with different phones (Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL). I guess I will stick with what is working. The link is further up in the thread.
Any update on this? Followed another thread here, but looks like there are known issues. I'm on OP6T Android 10 TMobile. Thanks!
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Any update on this? Followed another thread here, but looks like there are known issues. I'm on OP6T Android 10 TMobile. Thanks!
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Same. Also Waiting for Dustin to update hopefully.
As far as the other thread, ill pm you.
Used it while at work today, and can confirm it's working on the OOS Q beta! Ran through about ~20GB of data today, and none was reflected in my hotspot usage. I will note, however, I was using a VPN on my phone all day as well, and everything still worked like a charm (don't know why it wouldn't). Thank you!!
Termux Bypass
I've done this for ever and it's not going to be restricted to who you have but it will 100 percent get around any data throttling.
Download Termux app and install openssh-server on it. Go ahead and hotspot your phone, then run ifconfig inside Termux to get your current tethering local IP. It will be the only 192. spit out when you run ifconfig. Save this. Run sshd -dD inside Termux which starts an openssh server waiting to be connected to in debug mode to audit traffic. Now pop onto a PC or router you can SSH into, whatever and connect it to your hotspot from your phone. Now SSH tunnel all the traffic from the device back through the openssh server your running on the Termux app. Now that you are on the same local network you can SSH tunnel into that IP address you saved earlier. As long as you make sure all your traffic passes through the tunnel it 100 percent shows that all your internet is being used by Termux app not your hotspot app so you need no other spoofing of hops or anything because to your phone and carrier you are just using a bunch of data in termux, you do it right you will never be throttled I've used 150GB data multiple times.
Step by step > https://github.com/RiFi2k/unlimited-tethering
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I've done this for ever and it's not going to be restricted to who you have but it will 100 percent get around any data throttling.
Download Termux app and install openssh-server on it. Go ahead and hotspot your phone, then run ifconfig inside Termux to get your current tethering local IP. It will be the only 192. spit out when you run ifconfig. Save this. Run sshd -dD inside Termux which starts an openssh server waiting to be connected to in debug mode to audit traffic. Now pop onto a PC or router you can SSH into, whatever and connect it to your hotspot from your phone. Now SSH tunnel all the traffic from the device back through the openssh server your running on the Termux app. Now that you are on the same local network you can SSH tunnel into that IP address you saved earlier. As long as you make sure all your traffic passes through the tunnel it 100 percent shows that all your internet is being used by Termux app not your hotspot app so you need no other spoofing of hops or anything because to your phone and carrier you are just using a bunch of data in termux, you do it right you will never be throttled I've used 150GB data multiple times.
Step by step > https://github.com/RiFi2k/unlimited-tethering
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I've never used this before. I checked the instructions you linked, but they really don't add to the clarity of this part:
"Now that you are on the same local network you can SSH tunnel into that IP address you saved earlier."
Do you know of any video tutorial or anything that might help with this?