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I have friends who have the Vibrant, Epic, and Captivate. All the screens look good, but the Captivate already has a tiny scratch.
Now nothing is indestructible, but then i found this video on youtube which made me think, is the glass different on each phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimSyAIuDoI
I put an invisible shield on my phone which made it "orange-peely" and finally after seeing a number of tests on the glass, including putting the phone into a bag of metal shards and nails and screws and mashing it up, I decided to take it off. I have been using the phone since it was released now, with only a couple days in invisishield and I've had it in my pocket with my keys the whole time and the screen is flawless. Dropped it at least a couple times (I have a case on it, but nothing protecting the screen otherwise).
I dunno. It would suck major ass to get the screen scratched, so it's probably smart to put one on, but the screen seems solid. I don't know if I'd trust a video from the company that makes invisishield, honestly. It's kind of like the cigarette companies telling congress that they swear, they aren't harmful or addictive.
Mine was in the boot of a moped I laid down a couple weeks ago in the bahamas...not a mark.
Also in my shorts' pocket with grains of sand through the vacation (it's sticky down there)...i wouldn't put my keys in the same pocket though, that's just asking for trouble.
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I too had a screen protector I bought from Seidio. They really have a poor implementation of how to apply the plastic and I could never get the edges to stick even after applying pressure for 15-20 mins. Anyway, I ended up taking the screen protector of after seeing a Korean video of a I9000 getting demolished in various ways and not getting a scratch (up until the moment when they applied a knife directly to the screen and when they dropped it from about 5-6 ft). I have an Amzer case and for the past 3 weeks I have not had a single scratch. That includes incidents with keys or my wallet chain, or the occasional faceplant to the floor. I really think the captivate has at least comparable glass to the gorilla-class glass.
LMAOOO dude in video says "lets make this natural as if you dropped it", then presses and slides it accross concrete...
LMAOOO nothing can withstant a scratch from that not even steel.lol
I have a small scratch after dropping a coin on the screen tried to put invisoble shield but it is ****ty, so i decided to keep it naked, still better than with bubbles and dust..
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I can tell you that the samsung rep shows off the glass to at&t reps, and they rscratch it with kruss to show the durability. It is as advertised.
Mine is scratched, and I didn't do anything except put it in my pocket. No keys and no coins. So this gorilla glass stuff isn't impenetrable.
Paladuck said:
Mine is scratched, and I didn't do anything except put it in my pocket. No keys and no coins. So this gorilla glass stuff isn't impenetrable.
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Same here. No idea how but I managed to get two scratches on the screen. No big deal.
I had a screen protector, but got sick of it quick. It s been 3-4 weeks and no scratches. Only protection I have on it is the Bodyglove case. I try to make sure I don't put it in the same pocket I have my keys in though. I'm guessing the scratches a lot of people get are from the sharp edges of a key. A razor will scratch gorilla glass and I've had keys in the past that were pretty sharp on some of the points.
Wait until PETA finds out they're making glass out of gorillas!
skinien said:
Wait until PETA finds out they're making glass out of gorillas!
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The iPhone gets superior glass made out of endangered mountain gorillas, while we are stuck with inferior product made from the common lowland gorillas.
Hate to break it to you, but Gorilla Glass isn't magical. Just look at the iPhone 4. It's a scratch magnet. Definitely the easiest iphone to scratch by miles. The captivate is the exact same glass, and guess what??? It's scratchable.
From everything I've seen, Gorilla Glass (or the coating on the glass) is very succeptable to micro scratches. Usually vertical scratches (along the grain of the glass) around 1mm to 2mm long. That's what my first Captivate screen did within a day of normal use. I took it back and got another phone and a butt load of screen protectors. My iPhone 4 did the same thing, but seemed to be much easier to scratch. My buddy's Captivate has a scratch that is almost identical to my first Captivate, but more toward the middle of the screen.
I think Gorilla Glass is as close to a full on failed experiment in mobile devices as we've seen recently. I would take the material that the iPhone 3GS screen was made of any day of the week.
I expect to be using this hand-held for the next two years, so within a few days I put on a shield dry as instructed. Hated the bubbles for two weeks before trying water; not much better. Then tried some glasses cleaner from the WalMart vision center; can't even tell the shield is there. Water beaded, but the clener coated and squigyed ou nicely.
Any glass will scratch and out here in the country I don't live or work in a clean environment...
Divinedark said:
Hate to break it to you, but Gorilla Glass isn't magical. Just look at the iPhone 4. It's a scratch magnet. Definitely the easiest iphone to scratch by miles. The captivate is the exact same glass, and guess what??? It's scratchable.
From everything I've seen, Gorilla Glass (or the coating on the glass) is very succeptable to micro scratches. Usually vertical scratches (along the grain of the glass) around 1mm to 2mm long. That's what my first Captivate screen did within a day of normal use. I took it back and got another phone and a butt load of screen protectors. My iPhone 4 did the same thing, but seemed to be much easier to scratch. My buddy's Captivate has a scratch that is almost identical to my first Captivate, but more toward the middle of the screen.
I think Gorilla Glass is as close to a full on failed experiment in mobile devices as we've seen recently. I would take the material that the iPhone 3GS screen was made of any day of the week.
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The iPhone is not Gorilla Glass. iPHone uses a hardened silica glass, and Gorilla Glass is made by corning and in their demos is superior to soda glass and silica glass.
Gorilla Glass is not indestructible, but it is also not in the iPhone 4.
I just got a captivate that had a ton of little scratches on the screen out of the box. So much so that the screen has a very rough texture to it. Needless to say I'm returning it, but it just goes to show that the gorilla glass is definitely susceptible to scratches.
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I sure would love to see some photos of all these scratched screens. I was in the AT&T store today and three were on display all beaten to hell but the glass was still flawless.
Now, having said that, the easiest way to scratch this (or any) glass is to put another piece of glass on top of it. Say, for example, laying the phone face down on a glass table. The glass will pull towards one another and if there are specs of dust, dirt, etc on either of the pieces, guess what's going to get dragged across the surface when you go to pick it up...
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The iPhone is not Gorilla Glass. iPHone uses a hardened silica glass, and Gorilla Glass is made by corning and in their demos is superior to soda glass and silica glass.
Gorilla Glass is not indestructible, but it is also not in the iPhone 4.
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From what I've read, the aluminosilicate screen is so similar to Gorilla Glass that it's still unverified if Corning isn't behind the iPhone 4. I'm not contesting your point. I was just going off of what I read. Either way, they both scratched in near identical ways, in nearly the exact time frame, from the same type of usage...
http://www.tested.com/news/whats-so-special-about-iphone-4s-aluminosilicate-glass/429/
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I sure would love to see some photos of all these scratched screens. I was in the AT&T store today and three were on display all beaten to hell but the glass was still flawless.
Now, having said that, the easiest way to scratch this (or any) glass is to put another piece of glass on top of it. Say, for example, laying the phone face down on a glass table. The glass will pull towards one another and if there are specs of dust, dirt, etc on either of the pieces, guess what's going to get dragged across the surface when you go to pick it up...
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I would be more than happy to send you a picture of the phone I took back to the store for the scratched screen... The device was working perfectly at the time, so I was in no rush to get rid of it. The scratch was too distracting to live with.
I'm mostly curious what people are doing with their phones to get so many scratches. I've had mine since release, no screen protector and still no scratches. Have dropped the phone a couple times were it landed face down. I do have a cheap silicon case but that's it heh. Usually carry in my front pocket. Occasionally it ends up in same pocket with my keys/change. So how are so many other people getting scratches, I just don't get it heh.
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Just wanted to get some thoughts / experience from you guys on this please.
Gorilla Glass is tough, but it's not the indestructible thing a lot of people think it is. I still have the factory protector in place.
Cheers Rusty!
Was asking as I'm generally pretty careful with my devices and was thinking it should be durable enough for my jean pocket.
Durable, yes, scratch proof, no. Even people that are gentle get scratches once in a while. If one grain of sand gets in your pocket with the phone you could end up with scratches. Do yourself a favor and get a good quality protector that you will never notice once its on. I use Steinheil protectors.
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crzycrkr said:
Durable, yes, scratch proof, no. Even people that are gentle get scratches once in a while. If one grain of sand gets in your pocket with the phone you could end up with scratches. Do yourself a favor and get a good quality protector that you will never notice once its on. I use Steinheil protectors.
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Thanks for the advice crzycrkr - you make a fair point, I'll take a look at the Steinheil.
Cheers, H
my only problem is with protectors I can't make the same slick swipe movements, that I used to make on the glass surface... the film just sticks to my fingers, and sliding on it is just not so fluent...
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my only problem is with protectors I can't make the same slick swipe movements, that I used to make on the glass surface... the film just sticks to my fingers, and sliding on it is just not so fluent...
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You have not tried any good protectors then. Stick with dry application ones. The wet applications are more rubber like. The Steinheil is called the Ultra Optics I think. Have one on my Transformer and you can't even tell its there and can slide across it just like the glass. I used Boxwave in the past, but they scratched too easily. There are a lot of good protectors out there, just do some reading and stay away from Zagg Invisible Shields no matter what you do.
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I use a cloth pouch for my phone and haven't got any scratches since I got it (launch)
Like crzycrkr said, sand and minerals/stones in general are kryptonite for Gorilla Glass, whereas coins/keys/metal are no problem.
So, in my opinion, if you keep the phone in a pouch, you shouldn't face any serious problems.
Unless some sand finds it's way into the pouch, then you're utterly boned.
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Just wanted to get some thoughts / experience from you guys on this please.
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Hey dude. Do use a screen protector, my Nokia X6 has Gorilla glass too. but it has some scratches at the screen even when I put it inside a leather case.
Okay fellas, you've convinced me of the use case. I'll invest in a decent protector.
Thanks for all your comments!
i have no display protectors, imho they are unnecessary...
i believe that because when my o2x fell on the asphalt 3 months ago, faced down, i found lots of scratches on the plastic corners, but no scratches on the display. i could post some photos of the phone.
so, if the phone standed the asphalt, i guess it stands my pockets too
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i have no display protectors, imho they are unnecessary...
i believe that because when my o2x fell on the asphalt 3 months ago, faced down, i found lots of scratches on the plastic corners, but no scratches on the display. i could post some photos of the phone.
so, if the phone standed the asphalt, i guess it stands my pockets too
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Asphalt is not particularly hard. The only people who don't use screen protectors are the ones who haven't scratched their devices yet. Then they curse amd wwonder why they didn't listen. With the quality of the protectors out there, there's not reason not to get one
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I use it since April 2nd and do not use any screen protector or any other protector. I have my phone always with me and most of the time it is in my Jeans front pocket. I just came back from an outdoor trip to the polar circle and generally do lots of outdoor activities and my phones screen still is as new.
Sometimes I have sand in my pocket after I have played Beach Volleyball and still no scratches.
Sand will scratch Gorilla Glass, but it needs some force to do so. It wont scratch it if it only gently slides over it in a pocket.
Think about what you do with your phone before you do it and you won't need a protector. And don't worry, the O2X is really well crafted and not easy to damage.
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I use it since April 2nd and do not use any screen protector or any other protector. I have my phone always with me and most of the time it is in my Jeans front pocket. I just came back from an outdoor trip to the polar circle and generally do lots of outdoor activities and my phones screen still is as new.
Sometimes I have sand in my pocket after I have played Beach Volleyball and still no scratches.
Sand will scratch Gorilla Glass, but it needs some force to do so. It wont scratch it if it only gently slides over it in a pocket.
Think about what you do with your phone before you do it and you won't need a protector. And don't worry, the O2X is really well crafted and not easy to damage.
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Again, congratulations, but you are lucky and just one scratch away from kicking yourself for not putting one on.
Screen protector is just a thin film that'll not affect the screen's responsiveness, unless ofc you have that Sony bulky one. It is also cheap less than a buck. Why take the risk of a naked screen outdoor?
Because for one the scratches or damage in general could also happen on the backside and I wont put my pretty phone into an ugly case. Also I like the touch of glass.
And finally when I will sell this phone sometime in one or two years, the price won't differ between a totally unscratched pone and one with a few scratches.
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Because for one the scratches or damage in general could also happen on the backside and I wont put my pretty phone into an ugly case. Also I like the touch of glass.
And finally when I will sell this phone sometime in one or two years, the price won't differ between a totally unscratched pone and one with a few scratches.
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Just out of curiosity, have you tried a good quality, dry application protector, like a Steinheil ultra clear? 99 out of 100 people wouldn't even know its on, and all 100 wouldn't have a problem with the feel.
No I haven't.
I've used screen Protectors on my former phones and they did statisfy me.
With this phone I still am happy that I don't need one.
First thing I did was taking off the protector when I bought my phone.
Still no scratch, always carrying in my pocket.
The thin protector will not protect the phone from getting scratched for objects which will damage gorilla glass.
Without protector it feels better also.
I don't leave the plastic around the seats in my car also.
Is it possible that the back of some of the Nexus 4's aren't gorilla glass? Mine has a bunch of scratches on it already even though I'm babying it. Its always alone in the pocket, and when ever i put it on a table, i make sure there is something soft under it, and i wipe the area. Its never been dropped. It doesn't seem like gorilla glass should scratch that easily. I mean the drop test video dropped it form 3 feet and nothing happened.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999345
There is another thread discussing this. Maybe read and search first?
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Is it possible that the back of some of the Nexus 4's aren't gorilla glass? Mine has a bunch of scratches on it already even though I'm babying it. Its always alone in the pocket, and when ever i put it on a table, i make sure there is something soft under it, and i wipe the area. Its never been dropped. It doesn't seem like gorilla glass should scratch that easily. I mean the drop test video dropped it form 3 feet and nothing happened.
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its too slippery to not be gorilla glass 2
Fouad1013 said:
Is it possible that the back of some of the Nexus 4's aren't gorilla glass? Mine has a bunch of scratches on it already even though I'm babying it. Its always alone in the pocket, and when ever i put it on a table, i make sure there is something soft under it, and i wipe the area. Its never been dropped. It doesn't seem like gorilla glass should scratch that easily. I mean the drop test video dropped it form 3 feet and nothing happened.
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Gorilla Glass is still glass. From Anandtech:
"The problem with large plane-defining glass surfaces is if the handset gets placed flat on a surface it often can pick up fine scratches (called sleeks) from even dust or grains of dirt between the interface and the glass. I wish the Nexus 4 had a larger lip between the glass and the circular rubber band to raise the glass further away from surfaces and prevent annoying sleeks from forming. On my Nexus 4 review unit the lip is quite thin, definitely under a millimeter, and there are already a number of sleeks."
Basically,toughened glass gets a hardness rating of around 6-700. Sand and other small particles can go over 1000. So Gorilla Glass is scratch proof against everyday objects but not the beach.
@bfspider Sorry I missed that one, i didnt know the discussed the possibility that the back wasn't gorilla glass.
@FatPigs Thanks for the quick reply, i figured that the gorilla glass should be stronger. And i always check that there is nothing on the table when i put it down. I did notice that all of the scratches on the phone are concentrated at a point above the Nexus logo. The also aren't just fine streaks, if i rub my nail on them, i can feel them. They are deep. Maybe my back class is uneven and that's causing scratching or something.
Already a thread like this. Go there and continue the chat
Guys! I'm very Sorry to note that my phone have a lot of scratches in the screen... I think it is caused by nails but my last phone (lg 2x) with gorilla glass 2 havent any scratch... Now I bought a screen protector... And you?
And me.
Same here. Gorilla Glass 3 suckzz... I applied screenguard as my screen was prone to scratches.
Me too, it's sad because first weak and i get a scratch, but my nexus 7 2012 have no scrath at all and i bought it 1 year ago.
No scratches here, and I have never used a screen protector
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no protector here and no scratches either
Wenzo2 said:
Guys! I'm very Sorry to note that my phone have a lot of scratches in the screen... I think it is caused by nails but my last phone (lg 2x) with gorilla glass 2 havent any scratch... Now I bought a screen protector... And you?
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I never used screen protector.
I learned it the hard way on my HTC one X (gorilla glass 2). Never wipe your screen with your cloth. It will contain sand grains and that scratches any glass surface.
On my nexus5, I use glasses wipe, and its still in perfect condition.
Hope this helps.
I've had plenty of phones with Gorilla Glass and ALL of them got scratched if used without a screen protector... people need to understand that Gorilla Glass is only scratch-resistant, not scratch-proof. If you don't want scratches, use a screen protector, no matter what.
or take care of ur phone
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant until we see some sapphire glass covers with 9h-10h they will be theoretically scratch proof seeing I tried to scratch the iPhone 5 sapphire lens cover and nothing .
Buy some tempered glass on eBay I Bought one for 5$ its good overall
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Mine has those microscratches, which apparently are in the oleophobic layer. Tough, but I can live with them. If it get's any worse I might apply a (glass) screenprotector, but I really prefer naked.
Yeah it's bad. Either they used really cheap GG3, or just used a cheap oleophobic coating. Good thing I have tmo so I can just get another phone when it gets really bad...Thanks jump!
SO many minerals can scratch gorilla glass. It stops stuff like keys from scratching the glass, but get a piece of sand 0.5mm big in your pocket, and your screen is toast
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Mine has those microscratches, which apparently are in the oleophobic layer. Tough, but I can live with them. If it get's any worse I might apply a (glass) screenprotector, but I really prefer naked.
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I got rid of some of my scratches that are on the anti-fingerprint layer however the deeper one I could not fix
fixed it with this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Proteger-Sm...t=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item2335b86414
I think the glass screen protectors are the way to go. For $15-$25 you just don't have to worry about it and it's a little extra protection if dropped. Plus it feels naked
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Aenima462 said:
SO many minerals can scratch gorilla glass. It stops stuff like keys from scratching the glass, but get a piece of sand 0.5mm big in your pocket, and your screen is toast
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This ^^^
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It sounds stupid, but I always blow on my screen after it's been in my pocket for a while to get any micro particles off of it. Like somebody else said, all it takes is a single grain of sand combined with a wipe of a cloth or a swipe of a finger to wreak havoc. If I see stubborn particles on my screen, will always dab them with my finger to get them off. I will never wipe them.
I have yet to get a scratch on my screen with the above methods.
never had a screen protector, no scratches. my phone is as flawless as when i first took it out of the box in early Nov.
No scratches on my N5, N4, N7, Xoom etc... is it because I don't put it in the same pocket as my keys and change? That's kind of like, common knowledge...
For all the people saying that a tiny piece of sand can scratch the screen, you're completely right, but some of us on here are comparing it to previous phones that we've owned that haven't scratched in the same environment.
I'm not really complaining too much because I stick my phone with everything else in my pocket (keys, cards, anything else really) and it's still in pretty great condition. (I've had it since it came out)
I haven't managed to make up my mind on which screen protector to get, and despite having a case on it and only placing my phone in soft pockets (not jeans or jackets), there a micro scratches on the screen.
Firstly I would just like to know if you have any micro scratches on your screen and secondly do you think that these scratches are on the oleophobic coating or is the screen glass just a bit scratchy?
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I haven't managed to make up my mind on which screen protector to get, and despite having a case on it and only placing my phone in soft pockets (not jeans or jackets), there a micro scratches on the screen.
Firstly I would just like to know if you have any micro scratches on your screen and secondly do you think that these scratches are on the oleophobic coating or is the screen glass just a bit scratchy?
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i dont know but one thing is sure, nowadays screen takes very easily those micro scratches. ( i had mi9 and same problem than you now)
I think this is due to the new Gorilla glass, which is resistant to cracking but prone to scratching, as it has a softer surface. I managed to get a micro scratch just while unboxing and playing with it for a while. Put on a screen protector like an hour after unboxing and noticed a tiny micro scratch on the display, so... well.
Under close examination, I see none after a week of wearing it in jeans pants, and occasional cleaning the screen by wiping against pant leg. By that measure, it seems no different than my prior phones (it doesn't seem weaker).
Mine scratched as well under similar conditions. Nothing that could scratch the screen (coins, keys etc.) is ever in the same pocket as my phone. Guess jeans are tougher than they used to be - in the pockets at least!
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Mine scratched as well under similar conditions. Nothing that could scratch the screen (coins, keys etc.) is ever in the same pocket as my phone. Guess jeans are tougher than they used to be - in the pockets at least!
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It's not the jeans, it's due to the fine sand in it which are also in regular pants lol. Always clean out your pockets before putting your phone in. Using mine since the day it came out and still no fine , hairline , etc scratches at all.
JJay666 said:
It's not the jeans, it's due to the fine sand in it which are also in regular pants lol. Always clean out your pockets before putting your phone in. Using mine since the day it came out and still no fine , hairline , etc scratches at all.
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Fair enough thought, but none of my iPhones, Samsung or Nexus phones travelling in the same pockets have been scratched in the same way.
All this to say that this isn't my first rodeo. The Huawei P30 Pro screen, or perhaps its coating is very fragile it seems...
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Fair enough thought, but none of my iPhones, Samsung or Nexus phones travelling in the same pockets have been scratched in the same way.
All this to say that this isn't my first rodeo. The Huawei P30 Pro screen, or perhaps its coating is very fragile it seems...
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Well, since they're not using gorilla glass and using their own, it's hard to say. It could be the quality control during production. Some phones may be different from the others in terms of the coating. Even on the mate 20 pro, i never had any scratches on the screen after months of usage. As long as the pocket is always cleaned, it should be fine. Tests on jerryrigseverything shows that it has the same resistance as most major flagships
Not that I notice (which doesn't mean there aren't any, it's probably just my eye sight)
I did however have this unpleasant surprise - I put the phone in a cheapo phone stand, and while I was taking it out (carefully) a thread of plastic just rolled off, right around the power button.... my heart ached :crying:
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I think this is due to the new Gorilla glass, which is resistant to cracking but prone to scratching, as it has a softer surface. I managed to get a micro scratch just while unboxing and playing with it for a while. Put on a screen protector like an hour after unboxing and noticed a tiny micro scratch on the display, so... well.
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I've cracked my screen by accidentally dropping my belt buckle onto the very top of it just left of the notch. Wasn't a hard impact and from a low height. Subjectively I feel the screen is more fragile than my previous phone, Samsung s8.
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