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[APP] AT&T Touch Pro FM Radio... Does it have the hardware?

Good and bad news about this. The radio works, with headphones that have an FM antenna! Yay!
But
The reception is bad...
and I mean, BAD. Cuts in and out of local stations that I always get 100% signal from a car or any other radio.

Mine works great and I'm 50 miles north of Atlanta.

TwistedTJ said:
Mine works great and I'm 50 miles north of Atlanta.
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You also don't have an AT&T Touch Pro...

Hmmm, the phone obviously recognises the headset is plugged in, but do you defiinitely have the right one?
Mine only works properly with the HTC S300 headset (Diamond and Raphael standard ones). When I tried it with my old Kaiser/Hermes headset, I only got faint radio, and a lot of static...

sub69 said:
Hmmm, the phone obviously recognises the headset is plugged in, but do you defiinitely have the right one?
Mine only works properly with the HTC S300 headset (Diamond and Raphael standard ones). When I tried it with my old Kaiser/Hermes headset, I only got faint radio, and a lot of static...
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Not sure if it's the identical set that came in the box, but I bought it from expansys and it's specifically noted to be for the HTC Touch Pro and include an FM radio antenna... I don't know beyond that.

Black93300ZX said:
You also don't have an AT&T Touch Pro...
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No but I do have an HTC Touch Pro and I would think the FM radio would be the same as yours.

TwistedTJ said:
No but I do have an HTC Touch Pro and I would think the FM radio would be the same as yours.
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Unfortunately, Black's AT&T Touch Pro didn't come with any radio software installed, or a headset, so he's starting from scratch...
I don't think anyone is selling the official Diamond/Pro headset yet, but I would assume that any HTC headset with an antenna should work, so I'm at a bit of a loss, as the software seems to be working and picking up some sort of signal.
Perhaps there actually is an antenna connection between the receiver and the headset that is inside the HTC Touch Pro, but was left out of the AT&T version?

This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.

matchtrader said:
This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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Haha, identical?
1) Different model names
2) No front camera
3) Different keyboard
4) Push to talk button
It's just wishful thinking. We're all assuming/hoping the UMTS radios will all be there, but don't say the radio working is any hint of that. ;-)

matchtrader said:
This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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Even if the hardware is identical and he is using the Radio software designed for Europe/Asia, then the software might be designed to pick up the even numbered bands (102.2, 99.8 etc). The radio stations in North America use odd numbered frequencies (102.1, 99.1 etc). Hence the terrible quality. Just a possibility.

anandoc said:
Even if the hardware is identical and he is using the Radio software designed for Europe/Asia, then the software might be designed to pick up the even numbered bands (102.2, 99.8 etc). The radio stations in North America use odd numbered frequencies (102.1, 99.1 etc). Hence the terrible quality. Just a possibility.
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Well, the other guy here (ATL area or wherever) said he gets fine reception, and that's with a european touch pro... So I don't know why it would be different for mine.
Might be because it's a different headset, who knows. Maybe someday I'll throw another $30 towards the ones that came with the phone.

Black93300ZX said:
Haha, identical?
1) Different model names
2) No front camera
3) Different keyboard
4) Push to talk button
It's just wishful thinking. We're all assuming/hoping the UMTS radios will all be there, but don't say the radio working is any hint of that. ;-)
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All of these are peripherals. Sorry if I was not precise enough in my post, but there has been much speculation on the boards by a lot of very credible folks that the internal radios and chipsets on these units are identical.
I was going to say something smart about your attitude but I won't.

matchtrader said:
All of these are peripherals. Sorry if I was not precise enough in my post, but there has been much speculation on the boards by a lot of very credible folks that the internal radios and chipsets on these units are identical.
I was going to say something smart about your attitude but I won't.
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Well I appreciate you not saying anything smart, that'd be a tragedy. As for the speculation of hardware, I'm fully aware of what's been questioned. All I'm saying is that the FM radio has as much to do with the UMTS radios as the PTT button and the keyboard, we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same but I don't think this should help that argument.

Black93300ZX said:
Well I appreciate you not saying anything smart, that'd be a tragedy. As for the speculation of hardware, I'm fully aware of what's been questioned. All I'm saying is that the FM radio has as much to do with the UMTS radios as the PTT button and the keyboard, we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same but I don't think this should help that argument.
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Hmmm, fm radio -- internal component, keyboard and PTT buttons -- peripheral and external. I am guessing logic is not your strong suit? Sorry for the tragedy.
By the way, if "we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same" (and who is "we"?) then why the smart-alek comment in the first place? Never mind; don't answer that. I think from the other threads on the forum it is pretty clear why.

matchtrader said:
"we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same"
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Sorry, by "we" I was referring to everyone I've spoken with from the forum who's done research regarding the subject. I spoke with one person who told me he saw a Q&A session with HTC's CEO regarding the Diamond, and something was said to the effect of "the US radio and MicroSD slot had to be removed to make it as small as it is..."
That would be pretty valid information towards saying the US radio should be present in the European Touch Pro.... The fact that I can listen to music on it, to me, isn't. But honestly I don't want to start anything, I'm on thin ice with the mods now as it is. I apologize for any rash comments and let's just be friends.

matchtrader said:
Hmmm, fm radio -- internal component, keyboard and PTT buttons -- peripheral and external. I am guessing logic is not your strong suit? Sorry for the tragedy.
By the way, if "we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same" (and who is "we"?) then why the smart-alek comment in the first place? Never mind; don't answer that. I think from the other threads on the forum it is pretty clear why.
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Last time i checked the hardware for FM radio, and for cellular signal were not the same. If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal, think about it. I do think it's far more likely that they cripple the abilities through software than by stripping out the hardware functions. If the test unit that Black has is able to start working with a simple cab addition then it is likely that scenario will continue with the official models.
I also will say that there is no need for the snarky attitude so many users seem to have here. It is not necessary to mock someone simply because they disagree with you. No matter how many time it gets said it seems that nobody listens...but here goes again "treat other members with respect" always!
Black93300ZX said:
But honestly I don't want to start anything, I'm on thin ice with the mods now as it is. I apologize for any rash comments and let's just be friends.
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Good cause then we'd have to find someone else with an AT&T touch pro to pester with questions.

"If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal"
Just for information - On all phones that have a radio, the wired headphones are always needed for the aerial. This is becuase the antenna in the device is not capable of receiving FM transmissions due to the wavelength of the signal. FM at approx 100MHz has a much larger wavelength thant the GSM signal (900 - 2100Mhz) and hence requires the larger aerial.

Black93300ZX said:
Well, the other guy here (ATL area or wherever) said he gets fine reception, and that's with a european touch pro... So I don't know why it would be different for mine.
Might be because it's a different headset, who knows. Maybe someday I'll throw another $30 towards the ones that came with the phone.
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Have you tried to tune into different stations? When you do scan for stations, does it let you scan the odd numbered ones? Can you manually enter the frequency for a specific radio station? Sorry, I dont have a Touch Pro or a Diamond myself so I cant do these tests.

This is probably a stupid question, but if the wired headphones are used as the antenna, does that mean that Bluetooth headphones can't be used to listen to the radio? There was a review on pocketnow that suggested that wireless headphones could be used (though I wonder if there's some specific HTC set they're referring to). I'm just curious.

ardsar said:
"If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal"
Just for information - On all phones that have a radio, the wired headphones are always needed for the aerial. This is becuase the antenna in the device is not capable of receiving FM transmissions due to the wavelength of the signal. FM at approx 100MHz has a much larger wavelength thant the GSM signal (900 - 2100Mhz) and hence requires the larger aerial.
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That was my point actually, because the person i was replying to was insistent that the cell radio had something to do with the FM Radio, which they really don't. sorry if that was unclear.

[Q] Is Fm Transmitting Possible in Note?

Is fm transmitting possible using our galaxy note? or can it be made possible by the help of devs? Please Help

not as far as i know. you need the actual fm trasmitter hardware to be built into the phone. only nokia seems to do that nowadays.

Souai said:
not as far as i know. you need the actual fm trasmitter hardware to be built into the phone. only nokia seems to do that nowadays.
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according to me when a phone has FM receiver it also habe a fm transmitter with it , coz when u receive a fm from a radio station , then is a small thing which sends a signal to them. this signals are use to count the no of users listening to the fm station. So this is possbile that Note also has a fm trasmitter. Actually a person expert in hardware can tell us the true story

jinnn_1989 said:
according to me when a phone has FM receiver it also habe a fm transmitter with it , coz when u receive a fm from a radio station , then is a small thing which sends a signal to them. this signals are use to count the no of users listening to the fm station.
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No, the radio station can't count their listeners, but the note does have a small transmitter that lets me see what you do in the bathroom. Stop doing that, it's gross.

It cannot be done ,i checked with the hardware integrations of the same. It needs a hardware mod.

http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
Well why note won in music? Because of fm transmiter...
Or that is a lie?

tannduricic said:
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
Well why note won in music? Because of fm transmiter...
Or that is a lie?
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yes, its a lie. notice how thats the only website that says it has an fm transmitter? go onto any samsung website, the note doesnt have an fm transmitter

jinnn_1989 said:
according to me when a phone has FM receiver it also habe a fm transmitter with it , coz when u receive a fm from a radio station , then is a small thing which sends a signal to them. this signals are use to count the no of users listening to the fm station. So this is possbile that Note also has a fm trasmitter. Actually a person expert in hardware can tell us the true story
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I'll have some of what he is smoking! Smoke enough, I'm sure we will find the built in NSA tracker.

tannduricic said:
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
Well why note won in music? Because of fm transmiter...
Or that is a lie?
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Haha! That website also claims 34 days standby time!
Wish my battery lasted that long
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Don't recall the source, but I read somewhere that the Note actually has the required chipset for FM transmission, but the transmission part is disabled.
I really doubt it can be enabled, and if that happens I don't think it would be capable of high quality and above all enough range to be useful. Even Nokias suck on this regard!
Cheers!
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they really dropped the ball their on the galaxy note 2 , I almost bought an note then I noticed that at could not transmit FM like the galaxy s3 could :S
getting sound from the phone into my carputer is no problem , but doing the same in other cars that just have oem stereo systems is another question

There are dedicated fm transmitters you can buy. They are available all over the internet and are very cheap to buy.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note

I have Galaxy Note 5 and I have an FM receiver

FM radio on nexus 6

I called T-Mobile and had them look into the FM chip in the nexus 6. They told me that the nexus 6 does have the FM chip but they will not active it. Does anyone have a patch that actives the chip? This is the website that made me aware that this phone can play FM stations.
http://freeradioonmyphone.org/
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Wow, that would be awesome. I'd love to listen to baseball games at work.

Links to the FCC reports for the N6 are here and here. There is no mention of an FM radio. You can also see the iFixIt teardown here. They also did not mention an FM radio.
As much as I would like there to be an FM radio in the N6, I think this is more likely a case where the CSM you spoke with was mistaken or the information available to the CSM is incorrect.

They called me back after researching it. They started off by telling me no it did not have it. After they researched they said yes it does. They also told me other providers will active it but not T-Mobile
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That might be partly true. Many chipsets these days are multipurpose. I'll use my old Nook Color as an example, because it had a WiFi chipset that did, in fact, include a Bluetooth transceiver. The device's hardware, however, had zero provisions for it. Developers figured out how to turn it on, but without the supporting hardware, Bluetooth range was less than 32 inches, nevermind 32 feet.
I'll wager if it's true, it's the same case with the N6. It very well may have a chip capable of receiving FM radio. That does not, by any means, suggest that it has the required hardware to use it. I doubt very much it has any supporting hardware or antennas to use FM radio.

Who uses FM radio anyways when you can use an app like TuneIn Radio and listen over data without reception issues?

neyenlives said:
Who uses FM radio anyways when you can use an app like TuneIn Radio and listen over data without reception issues?
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People with data limits.
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I mostly use Tunein Radio Pro on wifi.
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Apparently the 805 Snapdragon SoC does support FM support, but there is more to it than that.

neyenlives said:
Who uses FM radio anyways when you can use an app like TuneIn Radio and listen over data without reception issues?
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People who listen to ballgames. The 30 second lag makes apps unusable at live sporting events.

Why would someone listen to a ballgame on the radio if they are there in person?

neyenlives said:
Why would someone listen to a ballgame on the radio if they are there in person?
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Many people like to listen to the play by plan while they are at the game. Its very useful when you are really far back and can not see the players to well.

knitler said:
Many people like to listen to the play by plan while they are at the game. Its very useful when you are really far back and can not see the players to well.
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Wow I can see that.... but it must suck to buy tickets and go through all that to not even be able to enjoy the game without a radio...... You can get better at home on TV...

jes24cap said:
I called T-Mobile and had them look into the FM chip in the nexus 6. They told me that the nexus 6 does have the FM chip but they will not active it. Does anyone have a patch that actives the chip? This is the website that made me aware that this phone can play FM stations.
http://freeradioonmyphone.org/
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AFAIK, having an FM chip on a phone doesn't mean you can receive FM radio transmissions on the phone b/c you need a proper FM antenna. The Nexus 6 only has 1 antenna on it and it is designed for use by the GSM/CDMA/LTE radios, not by an FM chip.
So like with a walkman/ipod, you would need to use the headphone wire as an FM antenna BUT AFAIK there would need to be a coupling b/t the headphone jack and the FM chip and there isn't unless the phone was designed to use the FM radio There is in some phones like the Moto G and Moto E, but the phone has to be designed to use the headphone wire as an antenna AFAIK.

knitler said:
Many people like to listen to the play by plan while they are at the game. Its very useful when you are really far back and can not see the players to well.
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Also because in many cities, like Atlanta, the radio guys are just better than the "visual" guys. I often watch the game on tv but listen on WSB AM

One teardown I read (can't remember which) explained that the 805 comes with an FM chip, however there is no wiring from it to the headphone jack for antenna. There is also no system support included by Qualcomm to use it. Unlikely to get that working without serious hardware modification & software integration.

stumpy352 said:
One teardown I read (can't remember which) explained that the 805 comes with an FM chip, however there is no wiring from it to the headphone jack for antenna. There is also no system support included by Qualcomm to use it. Unlikely to get that working without serious hardware modification & software integration.
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Agreed

Sprint Nexus 6 Has FM Radio
The Nexus 6 on Sprint has the FM Radio activated out of the box. You can check the specs on the website, it is called NextRadio.

FM Radio
I'm in the broadcasting industry, and my radio colleagues say there's a conspiracy at work here. They swear that every cell phone made contains an FM radio receiver. But - carriers prefer you use data rather than free airwaves, so most block it.
I don't know if that's true. But I do have one piece of personal information.
I own the Sony Xperia Tablet Z. WiFi only. And yes, it has a built-in FM radio. Even has an app for 'FM Radio,' and it works like a charm. It apparently uses the headphone cord for the antenna.
Then I also bought the Xperia Tablet Z2, with Verizon LTE. And...there is no FM radio access at all. No app, no mention of it, anwhere.
As for the Nexus 6, a thought: aren't they all pretty much identical? So, if one has FM capability built in, won't they all?
Regardless, the issue is bigger than just this phone. The radio industry has been trying for years to get free radio on cell phones. But, it's just not going to happen on some providers, , since they make money on data. But for those that allow it? Bravo.

bdander said:
The Nexus 6 on Sprint has the FM Radio activated out of the box. You can check the specs on the website, it is called NextRadio.
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Not according to nextradio it doesn't. nextradioapp.com/supported-devices
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İs there FM radio

İs there FM radio

Unfortunately not

elmor0 said:
Unfortunately not
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They say no but the ROG Phone 1 and 2 had Radio, so it might but just be hidden if not on stock.

cimbom said:
İs there FM radio
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Nope because it doesn't have 3.5mm jack which serves as an antenna for FM Radio.

spine6 said:
Nope because it doesn't have 3.5mm jack which serves as an antenna for FM Radio.
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Lenovo does not have a 3.5mm Jack but it has FM radio https://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_legion_pro-10224.php

May I ask why do you need FM ?

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Nope because it doesn't have 3.5mm jack which serves as an antenna for FM Radio.
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MrKaon said:
May I ask why do you need FM ?
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Because
to listen to music and listen to sports in an internet-free environment

cimbom said:
Because
to listen to music and listen to sports in an internet-free environment
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Oh ok, I've got it now, but you get plenty ads like that!
I use a modded popular streaming app to listen music online or offline and watch sports with IPTV, there is no internet free area here, [emoji28].
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MrKaon said:
Oh ok, I've got it now, but you get plenty ads like that!
I use a modded popular streaming app to listen music online or offline and watch sports with IPTV, there is no internet free area here, [emoji28].
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Can you name the application where you are offline and have not downloaded it and listened to music and live sports

Do you think we can throw out the FM app of rog 2?

Legion duel doesn't have FM radio i cannot find the app thats why i returned that phone. Is there any way to install ROG 3 fm radio on global version

I couldn't find it so I opened the topic here but nobody is interested. If anyone knows, it would be great if they explain.

cimbom said:
I couldn't find it so I opened the topic here but nobody is interested. If anyone knows, it would be great if they explain.
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I love FM radio, when i choose whatever phone i prefer with fm radio. As data is very costly in dubai comparing India. If anyone can help to install a fm radio in Asus rog 3 i can order that phone, i am currently using rog 2

pramodppd said:
I love FM radio, when i choose whatever phone i prefer with fm radio. As data is very costly in dubai comparing India. If anyone can help to install a fm radio in Asus rog 3 i can order that phone, i am currently using rog 2
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This phone doesn't have the hardware to receive FM. So it's impossible to receive it as there is nothing on the motherboard to receive the FM.

Thank you, i thought SD865 plus have fm radio. It can be used in all SD865 plus devices. Note 20 ultra 865+ us version have FM radio.

pramodppd said:
Thank you, i thought SD865 plus have fm radio. It can be used in all SD865 plus devices. Note 20 ultra 865+ us version have FM radio.
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FM doesn't come from the CPU. You need a tuner and this phone doesn't have one.

Thanks for the clarifications brother

If you really really really want it ... you could try using an SDR dongle.
There are android drivers and apps. But of course this means having a giant usb stick sticking out of your phone (i guess you could use a usb extension if you wanted lol)

What I don't understand is why you need to uninstall the FM radio with rog 1 and rog2..
I think this should be on every phone with money..
And right now there is fear of pandemics and earthquakes all over the world
Why do we have to live connected to the internet all the time?

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What I don't understand is why you need to uninstall the FM radio with rog 1 and rog2..
I think this should be on every phone with money..
And right now there is fear of pandemics and earthquakes all over the world
Why do we have to live connected to the internet all the time?
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As for me this is the opposite, I don't understand why you need FM on the new high tech devices that will drain your battery and use your phone. You can have it with low price FM receiver that can be used for weeks before running out of battery and can keep it for years. With internet you can have digital streaming with much more choice than FM can ever give you.

Radio app for Note 9

I heard that some Note 9 users have Samsung official Radio app. But lots of them (Me) have no Radio app in their phone. Can someone Share the official Radio app (Not the internet Radio) or any method or mod to have it?! I got Rooted my Note 9 ?.

Try NextRadio but i highly doubt it would work. All flagships ditched the radio many years ago. Same with ir blaster. Shame really.

A the Radio apps are asking internet connection. That's the problem.?

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Try NextRadio but i highly doubt it would work. All flagships ditched the radio many years ago. Same with ir blaster. Shame really.
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NextRadio works on my N960U.
Of course, I need my wired headphones connected as an antenna.
As more and more phones ditch the headphone jack, it won't matter if the FM chip is enabled, even if the radio app will work, it won't be able to pick up any stations.
BTW the Samsung Radio apk is on APKMirror, but it won't install on my phone.

Can you share a link to download. Because not working what i downloaded

Error

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The N960U is a SnapDragon powered Note 9. If yours is an Exynos one (like mine) it won't work. I got used to streaming radio stations. Yes some don't have a steam but whatever.

Mmm . Yes I got Exynos :crying: