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Ubuntu/Linux realease for mobile devices planned soon

The release is planned for October, but there are bound to be betas beforehand.
Normally with Ubuntu there are major new releases every six months(ish) and with being open source there is no risk of anyone spitting the dummy at libraries of ROMS.
http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-for-mobile-internet-devices
For the benefit of those wondering WTF ubuntu is - its already been voted one of the top 100 products of 2007 in PC World. (Can products be free?)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131935-page,13/article.html
It is also being offered now by Dell as an alternative to Vista...
http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/05/01/13147.aspx
...prompted by Michael Dell using it on his home PC for years.

Well, if I'm not mistaken, the Mobile Internet Device referred by the news, are UMPCs (e.g. fully functional PCs). As such, porting the OS over is easy job, as compared to porting it over WinCe devices.
However, having said that, it is not all lost. With Intel on the market with Linux, chances are, probably there will be more applications written for Linux based OS and will then encourage the dev on Linux on WinCe (if you google, there is a Linux for Wizard project running already).

As far as I know there have been a few shots at linux for the wizard (et al), although the benefit of being ubuntu would be a far wider range of developers, the release structure they favour, and the finances to back it.
I still have a windows 98 boot (for some specific software than runs badly on any newer versions) and if you look at the spec of machines from then (I swapped the board, processor and memory from a Cyrix 166 with 32meg, to a pII 450 with 128 meg about late 1998), the older machines spec does not look particularly good compared to the wizards.
The xubuntu flavour of ubuntu is quite capable of extending the life of older hardware, by running more efficiently - and I have set up a few older machines I was given as scrap to play games for friends' children - to introduce them to 'proper computers' when it does not matter as much when they discover jacobs crackers fit in the floppy, or a CD rom cannot close with enough force to cut off action mans legs.
Anyway - returning to the plot - I would suspect xubuntu is currently not too far from working in a PDA - but the xubuntu project has far lower funding than ubuntu, but could be an excellent platform to adapt.

Well, as far as I know, Linux based systems do not 'really' run more efficiently. The primary reason that Linux OS is able to utilize older hardware is that it is lightweight. Thats like running DOS on older hardware.. it works well.

die, bill, DIE
hanmin said:
Well, as far as I know, Linux based systems do not 'really' run more efficiently. The primary reason that Linux OS is able to utilize older hardware is that it is lightweight. Thats like running DOS on older hardware.. it works well.
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Nah, its my experience that ALL windows OSs are resource hoggging pigs and linux isn't and it makes much better use of system resource than winblows
take a web server running apache under winnt, replace the os with a flavor of linux and the same machine running apache has more throughput than before.
and there are distros that run very well on just about any machine, put xp on a 200mhz pentium mmx and see if you have a useable machine, that same puter with linux will work great for the average joe blow who just, web browses, emails, does word processing/ doc. creation.
linux will put computing power in the hands of people who cant blow 1000$ every 2 years to get the latest greatest pc. I wont even go into the ridiculous amounts of cash micro$oft charges for new versions of the bug ridden code they pass off as a finished product, then release 4 service packs to band-aid it together.
thanks linus, you should get a nobel peace prize or some sh1t...
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bhang said:
Nah, its my experience that ALL windows OSs are resource hoggging pigs and linux isn't and it makes much better use of system resource than winblows
take a web server running apache under winnt, replace the os with a flavor of linux and the same machine running apache has more throughput than before.
and there are distros that run very well on just about any machine, put xp on a 200mhz pentium mmx and see if you have a useable machine, that same puter with linux will work great for the average joe blow who just, web browses, emails, does word processing/ doc. creation.
linux will put computing power in the hands of people who cant blow 1000$ every 2 years to get the latest greatest pc. I wont even go into the ridiculous amounts of cash micro$oft charges for new versions of the bug ridden code they pass off as a finished product, then release 4 service packs to band-aid it together.
thanks linus, you should get a nobel peace prize or some sh1t...
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Here's a good example of some everyday anti-Microsoft rhetoric.
Linux on a slow computer won't make it do anything more than it could do running a Microsoft product. Sure, a finely customized (read: limited) Linux system might use a little less memory, but a slow computer is a slow computer.
Back on topic, I'd look more towards the already-existing Linux projects for the Wizard being useful before any Ubuntu branded distributions would be available. The BlueAngel Linux project from a couple of years ago got pretty far, I wonder if the Wizard is really all that much tougher to get working.

tone007 said:
Here's a good example of some everyday anti-Microsoft rhetoric.
Linux on a slow computer won't make it do anything more than it could do running a Microsoft product. Sure, a finely customized (read: limited) Linux system might use a little less memory, but a slow computer is a slow computer.
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Yours will be a good example of a .. anti-old PC rhetoric?
I beg to differ. A PC's speed heavily depends on how many instructions it is running. The number of instructions run per second for any PCs is fixed, but having less unnecessary instructions to runs, yields a faster PC. Try running Vista with all fancy eye-candy enabled and browse the internet. Do the same with Windows 95. A slow PC is slow when you run something heavy on it, hence 'a slow computer is a slow computer' isn't true.

hanmin said:
Yours will be a good example of a .. anti-old PC rhetoric?
I beg to differ. A PC's speed heavily depends on how many instructions it is running. The number of instructions run per second for any PCs is fixed, but having less unnecessary instructions to runs, yields a faster PC. Try running Vista with all fancy eye-candy enabled and browse the internet. Do the same with Windows 95. A slow PC is slow when you run something heavy on it, hence 'a slow computer is a slow computer' isn't true.
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When Ubuntu for Mobile phones is in 20 years of development, then I will consider it, however for my everyday needs, WM6 has me covered. Thanks, but no thanks. This is just the beginning for Linux on a phone, it has a LONG way to go to keep up.
Not only that, you have to find someone WILLING to create the software for FREE and well, you get what you paid for.
If you are a C++ programmer, Linux on a Mobile Phone will be a welcome challenge, but there is no market for Linux on a phone YET. Only reason anyone one the market will choose to switch is due to a CHANGE from what's already out there. I do not feel it compares at all to WM6 yet.
Sure, you can run faster, once you remove all of the graphics, background processes, etc, but you can do that with WM6 too. That's what people are creating their own roms for.
Water down any OS and you will find that it runs really fast and really well.

I wonder if there will be Blackberry support? It might be interesting to toy with.

NeoDMD said:
When Ubuntu for Mobile phones is in 20 years of development, then I will consider it, however for my everyday needs, WM6 has me covered. Thanks, but no thanks. This is just the beginning for Linux on a phone, it has a LONG way to go to keep up.
Not only that, you have to find someone WILLING to create the software for FREE and well, you get what you paid for.
If you are a C++ programmer, Linux on a Mobile Phone will be a welcome challenge, but there is no market for Linux on a phone YET. Only reason anyone one the market will choose to switch is due to a CHANGE from what's already out there. I do not feel it compares at all to WM6 yet.
Sure, you can run faster, once you remove all of the graphics, background processes, etc, but you can do that with WM6 too. That's what people are creating their own roms for.
Water down any OS and you will find that it runs really fast and really well.
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So that's why Motorola already have, and Palm are developing linux mobile phones?
Linux on a mobile device is going to be here on mainstream handsets very soon, within the next 12 months guaranteed.
The reason?
Licensing costs.
If you develop an open source OS, and set of codecs to handle media, you don't have to pay so much to all the companies you traditionally hand money over to when you sell a phone.
People who buy a mobile phone rarely care if it can run Microsoft's pocket office apps, or RIM's office apps, or anyone elses, just as long as they can write that document, or email, and easily send it, or get it onto their PC.
People also don't care if it runs WM6, Symbian UIQ, S60, Linux, Palm, or Blackberry, they just care if it can do xyz functions, looks nice, and they can afford it.
We care, but we are not the majority of the market.
And lets be honest, out of all the mobile OS' out there, which is going to be the most hackable?
Linux on our HTC devices is always going to be a hobby more than a real alternative OS, since it's based on who wants what, and has the time to develop it. But on a commercially available device sold with it, it's already here, and more are on the way!

Linux is faster - especially non GNOME distros.
There is also Ubuntu light on the horizon.
I read this article which to me is a good summary...
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40532
...and to reiterate my aforementioned point in addition to the seeking of fees - who requested the removal of the rom library here? So greater control with open source to the savvy end user.
Additionally - many of us are running linux without even realising - as its often the OS running in your routers/wireless modems.
Finally - if Windows kit for PDAs/smart phones was any good - would there be a reason for a forum like this to improve upon it, or are we all just really pernickety people?

Ubuntu is a really amazing OS.
I have been running it for a while already, and I love it (except sometimes I screwed up, need to resetup).
U should all try it

Straight from the disk it saw and set up everything - including setting the two hyperthreading processors as 4 processors (I have the non server disk version too).
Only problem so far is its not happy with my Sandisk U3 Titanium.
Another point worth mentioning is the lightest/fastest/most secure browser is purportedly 'Dilo' which is written for Linux - but I have not tried it yet. (Although the security is based on the 'you cannot hijack it - if we dont support it' school of thought.)

Linux rocks, I have ubuntu running on one of my desktops and am seriously considering dual booting my other with Fedora KDE. It really did a lot to speed up my old compaq, and i am not running a "watered down" version, I have more aps and programs on this than i did on xp, and it still boots faster and i have yet to have a weekly crash like i did with xp. I really would like it on my wizard, but in the meantime i'm going to watch palm's develpment and look in that direction.

Linwizard
If you want to play a bit this works on my wizard. Still a long way to go but I can say I have linux on my wizard. And I don't have to change anything or lose my current setup. Just extract the folder to your SD and run the app. I haven't figured out how to exit the program with out a soft reset, but big deal. Also there is no touch screen support or shifted or symbol support for the keyboard.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linwizard/
Cheers...

Want to try Linux...which version?

Hey guys, first off Happy New Year.
Out of curiosity, I want to try Linux for myself and see what the hype is all about.
On http://www.linux.com/download_linux there are tons of different versions. I'm not a developer, just a Linux-newbie looking to explore around to see what's up. I don't plan on replacing my current OS with it, just run it at the same time and play around with it.
So, which Linux distribution would be best for me? And can I use something like Vmware Player to boot it?
edit: Forgot to mention
Using a Dell Inspiron E1505 running Windows Vista Home Premium.
Anything else you need to know? Ask.

Ubuntu
good place to start IMO
good luck and have fun
and a happy new year to you in la la land
p.s...always use a live cd...this way your see if it works ok with your dell before installing
Ubuntu lets you install inside windows....and its so easy...my mom could install it
so you keep vista and have Ubuntu....then just choose which one you want to use on boot up

I used this site : http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
I need openSUSE 11.1, apparantly.
Ta
Dave

thanks for that dave
never seen that before
its told me
Fedora, Mandriva, OpenSuSE or Ubuntu....so i was right...well for me any how

liamhere said:
never seen that before
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Fedora, Mandriva, OpenSuSE or Ubuntu....so i was right...well for me any how
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I wanted a new linux distro to throw on my old machine instead of smoothwall, so I just google "linux distro chooser" or something similar and found it
I've downloaded and burnt it to DVD, I just need time to set it up
Dave

vicjan88 said:
Hey guys, first off Happy New Year.
Out of curiosity, I want to try Linux for myself and see what the hype is all about.
On http://www.linux.com/download_linux there are tons of different versions. I'm not a developer, just a Linux-newbie looking to explore around to see what's up. I don't plan on replacing my current OS with it, just run it at the same time and play around with it.
So, which Linux distribution would be best for me? And can I use something like Vmware Player to boot it?
edit: Forgot to mention
Using a Dell Inspiron E1505 running Windows Vista Home Premium.
Anything else you need to know? Ask.
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UBUNTU is very popular an the community provides great support. Personally, I really like a distro that is a fork off of the UBUNTU distro called LINUX MINT. MINT is setup where many of the multimedia formats that don't work in UBUNTU by default because of licensing issues will work anyway. Decreases startup time.

Hello, vicjan88
Well, Ubuntu is nice, but actually teaches you to do things the windows-way. Yeah, it's so. It's a sort of a good place to start, but then you should move on to something more serious and.. less buggy. If you are just a small bit aware of what MBR is and have an idea of how to better partition your drives - i advise you to chose either fedora core or mandriva. They are a good place to start (my first distro was some old red hat,and it was nice). The thing about a distro for a beginner is that it should have good graphical or pseudo-graphical interface to configure everything - so that one can at least make his linux box feel working as good as windows. Experience comes from practice, so when you become quite familiar with your first distro, the rest will go just fine. Actually it is a good idea to start with Debian. But choose the testing version. Neither unstable, nor stable - they have certain problems. Or, ArchLinux. It is a nice distro, but the problem is that there is few software compiled for it, but the wiki and forums are just perfect. Anyhow, write back when you install some distro. Have fun!

coose Ubuntu, the newer editions lets you install "inside windows" its a feature called wubi
so you dont need any knowledge on partitioning or anything else

I think the best thing about linux is, it's not windows, it's different and, to a M$ fanboy like me, it's something new to learn. No point using Linux, if you're going to use it like Windows
@Ather, I've de-creased your post count.
Ta
Dave

Ubuntu is very similar to XP in many ways and is a nice, intuitive way into Linux.

Kubuntu if you want it to look more like win.

NUU! Go with
openSUSE or Ubuntu Ultimate. I personally have the following OS's on my pc;
openSUSE
Ubuntu Ultimate
BackTrack
Win XP

Ubuntu is nice if you are starting out with Linux. You might even find another distro which you like more. I use Ubuntu as a virtual machine if I need it, and standalone on my older machine. I also like having BackTrack 3 on my USB flash drive if I need it.
Dave

ubuntu is great,. i have ever used it once,.

I've always been partial to openSUSE, but the recent release of 11 was somewhat dissapointing for me (perticularly with KDE4) as it seemed a bit half hearted. Ubuntu isn't bad and is certainatly popular and Kubuntu is good if you prefer KDE to GNOME (which I personally do)

I prefer KDE, thats's why I've decided to use openSUSE more.
I just installed new OS's yesterday
newest openSUSE
Ubuntu Ultimate Gamers Edition v2.0
Windows 7 Ultimate
Windows XP SP3

Pick Ubuntu. It's the most user-friendly version out there and that's the one I've always used. It works on all my computers from the old 300mhz P3 to the 1.6ghz dual-core laptop. There are also different versions of Ubuntu with different desktop environnements. Consider Kubuntu (KDE), Xubuntu (XFCE) and the rest.
If you want to put it on a laptop, be ready for a challenge. While everything will work out of the box for desktops, Wi-Fi hardware is a pain in the butt to set up. Once you're done with that, however, there's no going back, Linux is awesome!

To Linux Users: Which Distro Do You Recommend?

I'm looking into moving to linux. Main reason? I really don't like windows 8. Don't flame me, please, i tried living with it since the consumer preview came out, and i just really don't like it.
I have nothing against OSX, its a pretty good system, but i don't want to sell my soul to apple, and a mac is more than i can afford for the foreseeable future.
IMHO Windows 7 is the perfect system. Just saying.
I partitioned 20 Gb out of my HDD to try out windows 8 DP, have been dual booting up until this week, at which i formatted the partition and loaded ubuntu.
My initial reaction to ubuntu was not that great. I have nothing against the system but i'm not a fan of unity and IMHO the orange/purple color scheme is fugly. However i really liked the software center. I tried out Kubuntu today, much more appealing UI, but it kept throwing me off because it looks just like windows but you don't interact with it the same way. I wound up going back to my phone to check my email, it was that annoying. Not confusing just annoying.
I'm sure i could adjust to either fairly quickly but they're just not the best UIs, IMHO.
So, that brings me to what this is about: If you use an OS other than Windows or Mac, what is it and what do you use it/what do you like about it? and would you recommend it to others?

New with Linux? Then mint. If u have some experience then tu debian or arch
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Ubuntu with Gnome Shell.
Gnome Shell is also skinable, so you don't have to live with the fugly color scheme. You can check out some skins at DeviantArt here.
And while we're at it, take a look at this article over at Webupd8. It will guide you through everything after installing Ubuntu. Webupd8 is a really great site that posts great articles regarding apps and other tweaks, so keep an eye on it.
So, i clearly recommend Ubuntu, but if you're a veteran and not a noob in the linux world, then i recommend Arch. But it looks like you're a "noob", so i would go with Ubuntu.

I've been using Linux Mint and it's been very nice. Very stable desktop, a lot of applications in the software download thingie (name escapes me). There is exactly ONE method of installing the android sdk and it works the first time with no issues (unlike the 90 ubuntu ones where 80% of them are messed up or outdated).
Go mint, you won't be sorry.

mint is basically Ubuntu based right?
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I would go with Kubuntu, that's the KDE version off Ubuntu.

Ubuntu with Enlightment

Ubuntu. Just started using it two moths ago. Windows was starting to get really slow and buggy. Sometimes it took a minute to boot up completely, and sometimes it wouldn't open up Firefox or VLC. I had no viruses(at least not visible to firewalls)
Then I tried Ubuntu. I was suprised how darn fast it was. Everything work, boot-up is fast as lightning, it looks better than Windows etc.
Only problem is Terminal. You need to remember a lot of commands to handle your computer.
I really recommend trying Ubuntu. After all, it's free!
E: And yeah, try KDE desktop if you try any Linux distro. I really prefer it to Gnome or Unity!

ubuntu or DSL (DamnSmallLinux) if on old pc

Ubuntu if you're new to linux, otherwise Debian Wheezy with Gnome Shell

17 days to go till Ubuntu 12.04. I suggest you to try and wait for that.
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ubuntu. I have been using it for 5 years.

Ubuntu User right here. But Mint is also very nice.
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I use backtrack 5. I love it, I have it dual booting with win 7 64bit
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rockstarar said:
mint is basically Ubuntu based right?
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Ubuntu and Mint are both Debian based, I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Still the same old terminal commands lol.

Ubuntu 10.10 is the best for me.. most stable (I tried up to 11.10) and no ugly Unity

PoorCollegeGuy said:
Ubuntu and Mint are both Debian based, I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Still the same old terminal commands lol.
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I looked it up after posting
mint is based off Ubuntu which is based off debian which is based off Linux. mint is a derivative of Ubuntu
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i use ubuntu 64 bits and works awesome!

For personal usage ubuntu, for server i like debian as most stable best (also it is easier because commands/paths from debian and ubuntu are quite identical )

I like SUSE
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What's your favorite Linux distro and why?

I've been switching between Ubuntu and mint for a few years but I'd like to try something new, any suggestions?
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Debian
DistroWatch can help you to compare distris & find new ones.

I started with Ubuntu then switched to Debian then I was curious and tried suse and now I'm currently happy with limuxmint with cinnamon desktop

lnxpro91 said:
I started with Ubuntu then switched to Debian then I was curious and tried suse and now I'm currently happy with limuxmint with cinnamon desktop
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I actually just tried Mint xcfe and am really liking it, yeah for some reason cinnamon just wasn't working for me, not sure why. Maybe I'll give suse a shot.

bulldog4574 said:
I actually just tried Mint xcfe and am really liking it, yeah for some reason cinnamon just wasn't working for me, not sure why. Maybe I'll give suse a shot.
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if you go for suse remember their packaging system is different , they use rpm packages

Just Redhat....Enterprise purpose...But I still prefer Deb :v

Linux Mint rebecca 17.1 cinamon, the beauty and ease of use ...

I run Ubuntu GNOME right now, but have been messing around with arch and have some interest in Debian.
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Linux Mint, because it is a complete and pretty much user-friendly distribution, but I like other distros, too, ec. Ubuntu, Blackbuntu, Remix OS or Elementary OS.

Dono.27 said:
Linux Mint, because it is a complete and pretty much user-friendly distribution, but I like other distros, too, ec. Ubuntu, Blackbuntu, Remix OS or Elementary OS.
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I hate to be an echo, so this is honest. Linux Mint has always been incredible, I started with SLAX, which wasn't a bad distro either (looks like it's been updated quite a bit since I last tried it... guess who's downloading a liveCD)

Lubuntu for old computers and PcLinuxOS for all the rest.

I have only realy tried Unbutu so far, always keep a live disc around.

I've been running Arch for some time now. I really like how it's so minimal, the awesome wiki, and AUR.

+1 for Arch (Architect Linux can help for the installation). I tried Antergos (Arch packages) but I'm on Manjaro now even if all the packages are not up to date.

Tossup between
Lubuntu (noob i know), Xubuntu (noob)
Mint?

saiyaneye said:
Tossup between
Lubuntu (noob i know), Xubuntu (noob)
Mint?
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I tried Mint Cinnamon and I noticed freezes and bad performances mainly when using Android Studio. Give a try to a pure Arch based distribution and you'll feel a serious difference

I use arch btw

Yea, I just gotta let you guys know.

I'm a fellow user of Arch based distros as well (generally Endeavor or Garuda with the blackarch and chaotic aur keyrings installed on top of)

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I'm a fellow user of Arch based distros as well (generally Endeavor or Garuda with the blackarch and chaotic aur keyrings installed on top of)
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Honestly, I prefer the regular arch or arco.

I also use arch btw
Honestly arch is an OS that everyone should use

I use Arch based distros as well XD haha. I use Arch for my servers and Manjaro for my daily drivers at home and work!
I recently convinced one of my co-workers to switch from windows to Manjaro the other day and now he's starting to see the light haha!

ironLink21 said:
I use Arch based distros as well XD haha. I use Arch for my servers and Manjaro for my daily drivers at home and work!
I recently convinced one of my co-workers to switch from windows to Manjaro the other day and now he's starting to see the light haha!
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bad decision man
he'll start hating Linux like hell after a couple of days lmao

NullCode said:
bad decision man
he'll start hating Linux like hell after a couple of days lmao
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Why?? I've been using it for over a year without issues

NullCode said:
bad decision man
he'll start hating Linux like hell after a couple of days lmao
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Actually he loves Linux. There are a couple things here and there that are annoying to him but that's the same on every OS.
He's also been using it for the last couple of months. He loves the CLI. Before he switched he was trying to use the CLI along with WSL on windows and that stuff just isn't quite there yet. I have used them before personally, and can say that with confidence.
He still uses windows in his gaming machine but the funny thing is, when he goes to use windows he gets super annoyed because he wants to change something or tweak something and can't and gets super frustrated with windows.

NullCode said:
I also use arch btw
Honestly arch is an OS that everyone should use
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why??

abuyamizan said:
why??
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Actually I kinda disagree. The installation is pretty difficult and it's highly likely people ruining the system after using it

I use Arch Linux as well! XFCE
Definitely more stable and faster than Windows 10.

SerjSX said:
I use Arch Linux as well! XFCE
Definitely more stable and faster than Windows 10.
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Dammmn, I prefer kde but xfce isn't that bad either.

hellofriendlymanveriosns said:
Dammmn, I prefer kde but xfce isn't that bad either.
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I use XFCE for performance since I have an old laptop, but I would definitely choose KDE when I have a faster laptop.

KDE's great. I use it with Manjaro AND I use it on my old Acer (OEM) Win 7 Mini Laptop and it's quite fast, so @SerjSX you might have better performance with it than you think on your old Laptop

Manjaro has too many mods which causes most of their problems.
Been using Arch openbox and xfce for years now.
Playing with Archlabs for over a year now and enjoying the ride and the find people there.
If you can't install Arch manually the Arch way, you likely shouldn't be using Arch.

sammiev said:
Manjaro has too many mods which causes most of their problems.
Been using Arch openbox and xfce for years now.
Playing with Archlabs for over a year now and enjoying the ride and the find people there.
If you can't install Arch manually the Arch way, you likely shouldn't be using Arch.
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I haven't installed it yet, but I agree and being more of a "purist" at heart, I look forward to installing it when I finally get the chance the way it was intended to be installed

Dual booting all machines with Arch as my primary OS. I keep Windows around just in case. Big fan of Arch, to the point that I have Arch Linux Arm on my raspberry.

I finally had my first glitch with Manjaro. A lib file won't update in Package Updates (Audio related) and it won't allow me to uninstall that file or reinstall over it without an error for Corrupt Package.
This is on my Mini Laptop I use for testing so I might try that Arch build, finally or another Arch-based OS besides Manjaro

HipKat said:
I finally had my first glitch with Manjaro. A lib file won't update in Package Updates (Audio related) and it won't allow me to uninstall that file or reinstall over it without an error for Corrupt Package.
This is on my Mini Laptop I use for testing so I might try that Arch build, finally or another Arch-based OS besides Manjaro
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Started using Arch on a test machine years back before making it my main OS.
It's the best way to learn Linux.

sammiev said:
Started using Arch on a test machine years back before making it my main OS.
It's the best way to learn Linux.
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That's what I'm thinking also. And I'm not new to Linux, just to Arch LOL