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Is there any rom that provides the option of adaptive refresh rate? Is it possible to provide this option is a rom? Or is there another way to do so?
Full time 120Hz consumes a lot of battery.
Thanks!
You can enable the video toolbox for the application you want to use 120hz with and enable the adaptive refresh rate in the toolbox.
what is tollbox ?
i'haven't adaptive refresh rate....
Search for video toolbox in the settings. But yes I am seeing now that they removed that option for adaptive refresh rate.
It is kind of adaptive on 120hz, it drops to 60hz every chance it gets while not interacting with it.
This made myself and others here to lock it on 120hz.
Frag1le said:
It is kind of adaptive on 120hz, it drops to 60hz every chance it gets while not interacting with it.
This made myself and others here to lock it on 120hz.
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Is this just on miui or others rom do it too? Especially Arrow os!
Stan m said:
Is this just on miui or others rom do it too? Especially Arrow os!
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I don't understand your question.
You said that it drops to 60 hz whenever it gets the chance. So is this feature only in MIUI or others have it too? For eg Arrow os
Hey everyone i tried 120 hz but cant notice any difference. Used in 120hz for month and now on 60hz but barely find any difference. How can i experience 120hz and 60hz difference. i want to feel difference but cant.
mysteryrom said:
Hey everyone i tried 120 hz but cant notice any difference. Used in 120hz for month and now on 60hz but barely find any difference. How can i experience 120hz and 60hz difference. i want to feel difference but cant.
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Overclock your eyes.
Now, seriously, some people can't manage to feel the difference between 60 and 120 hz, for me, it's like day and night, for my father, it's the same.
ImHorizon said:
Overclock your eyes.
Now, seriously, some people can't manage to feel the difference between 60 and 120 hz, for me, it's like day and night, for my father, it's the same.
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is there any specific app or moment to find the difference. Tried changing between 60hz and 120 hz to find difference but cant.
mysteryrom said:
is there any specific app or moment to find the difference. Tried changing between 60hz and 120 hz to find difference but cant.
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Almost every app that doesn't involve videos works with 120hz, you can feel it in your own OS
ImHorizon said:
Almost every app that doesn't involve videos works with 120hz, you can feel it in your own OS
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So should I switch to 60hz while watching movie to preserve battery or it automatically only displays 60?
Stan m said:
So should I switch to 60hz while watching movie to preserve battery or it automatically only displays 60?
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It switches automatically
Many users of this device (including myself) have noticed bad touch input sensitivity when using the 144Hz mode, but not in 60Hz or Auto. I have found quite an odd solution that at least fixes the issue on my end, and I'd like more people to test this, so please, comment down below.
Okay, for this I don't believe you need root. Go to settings and enable USB debugging, find the Motorola Edge 20 USB drivers online and ADB & Fastboot of you choice.
Once you have done all of that, open ADB & Fastboot in a terminal and write the following without the quote marks and the comments that start with a dash (make sure your display is on and the phone is connected to the computer):
"adb devices"
-this command will make a message pop up on your phone asking you if you allow the current computer to access your phone, press allow
"adb shell settings put system peak_refresh_rate 120"
-this will make it so that your max refresh rate can be 120Hz. Keep in mind you can set this to either 48, 60, 90, 120 or 144.
"adb shell settings put system min_refresh_rate 120"
-this will set your minimum refresh rate that the phone will default to when it thinks that it doesn't need the maximum refresh rate. Again it can be set to 48, 60, 90, 120 or 144.
Note: You do not need to reboot, the changes are instant. You can freely use the power saving feature (it sets the refresh rate to 60 when enabled) as turning it off retains the parameters set. The parameters also remain after rebooting. You will have to re-introduce these commands only if you switch the refresh rate option in the settings. This is for the most part a one-time fix.
What this basically does is set the refresh rate parameters for your phone. Android has adaptive refresh rate that oscillates based on the content you watch. The "min_refresh_rate" is the lowest refresh rate your phone will use when conserving power (e.g sitting idle on a .pdf file or watching a 60fps video) and the "peak_refresh_rate" is the highest refresh rate the phone will reach when doing tasks it deems appropriate for 120fps. At least in theory. The reality is that setting any sort of parameters that aren't a fixed refresh rate (e.g 144Hz peak with 90Hz min) will be refused by your device, and it will choose to switch to 60Hz when it feels like it even if you have specifically set it to not do that.
I have used the phone for about a week now with these settings, and I'm positive it is better with 120Hz min and peak. You do not get touch issues at this refresh rate and your phone also doesn't annoyingly switch to 60Hz when scrolling through a web browser or Instagram. It is pinned to 120Hz. Although it sucks that the device is not usable at 144Hz, this is the best solution at the moment until Motorola decides to fix their device.
I unfortunately doubt this fixes the issues with the Indian release of the phone. From my understanding, the Indian market has received a varient that has an AMOLED display that comes with issues far more severe than what I've experienced on my unit. Hopefully it is a software issue rather than a hardware one.
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I'll try this later tonight. Thanks for the tip.
Also, Motorola has announced in their forum that there is a fix coming for the touch issue in a software update.
dannejanne said:
I'll try this later tonight. Thanks for the tip.
Also, Motorola has announced in their forum that there is a fix coming for the touch issue in a software update.
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Yes, I know this. But we all know Motorola is very slow with updates. If we get that fix by the end of the year we'll be very lucky. Set the refresh to 120 and 120 respectively. I feel that the phone is way more usable this way. I'll update the guide too.
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Yes, I know this. But we all know Motorola is very slow with updates. If we get that fix by the end of the year we'll be very lucky. Set the refresh to 120 and 120 respectively. I feel that the phone is way more usable this way. I'll update the guide too.
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My touch still had problems in 144Hz mode after doing this. In auto I never really had an issue. However it is useful to let the phone run at 120Hz all the time.
dannejanne said:
My touch still had problems in 144Hz mode after doing this. In auto I never really had an issue. However it is useful to let the phone run at 120Hz all the time.
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You shouldn't have touch problems with 120Hz fixed.
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You shouldn't have touch problems with 120Hz fixed.
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No I don't, only in 144Hz mode. Didn't have issue in auto mode before fixing the refresh rate either. Anyway let's hope the future update will fix 144Hz mode.
dannejanne said:
No I don't, only in 144Hz mode. Didn't have issue in auto mode before fixing the refresh rate either. Anyway let's hope the future update will fix 144Hz mode.
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Yeah. Let's hope that it's at least not hardware related and can actually be fixed.
Running 144hz no touch issues hear Smooth as butter ,
Hi there, I'd not noticed this before the Android 12 update, but refresh rate appears to drop from 120Hz to 60Hz when using Picture in Picture or Split Screen views. Can anyone else reproduce this please?
You can confirm this by going into developer mode and toggling to always display the refresh rate.
Try a factory reset if you haven't already and it was a OTA upgrade...
I'd rather see if others can reproduce this first - would have thought it's a simple enough thing to test and post your results here, thanks!
Hi SSJ100, I just tested this to confirm for you, it does drop to 60hz immediately and I cannot prompt it to 120hz until I return to full screen view
Further testing, if i have video running in the background, Amazon, netflix or YouTube it stays at 120 with windowed mode on
DS1000RR said:
Hi SSJ100, I just tested this to confirm for you, it does drop to 60hz immediately and I cannot prompt it to 120hz until I return to full screen view
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Thanks for checking! Again though, I'm quite amazed (okay, maybe not quite the word hehe) at how no one has reported this issue in this forum (and at least one other "major" forum). If they have, please excuse my ignorance and I'd appreciate a link to the thread.
I can also confirm that this issue persists even after updating to the so-called bug fixing patch "BUKG".
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Further testing, if i have video running in the background, Amazon, netflix or YouTube it stays at 120 with windowed mode on
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Interesting how bugs like this manifest sometimes huh hehe. I first noticed this issue with Google Maps when I was navigating with it and switching to another app (which automatically forces Google Maps app to become picture in picture mode). Scrolling looks quite different and jittery - it's amazing how one gets used to 120Hz!
Have you tried the tiles app developed by a user on here? It can force refresh rates very easily and just requires an adb permission.....there was a thread the other day
ssj100 said:
Scrolling looks quite different and jittery - it's amazing how one gets used to 120Hz!
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There is some black magic going on with these 120Hz panels. 60 Hz never seemed to be a problem before these high refresh rate displays started popping up. I remember smooth as butter 60Hz phones (both iphones and android). But now when i use a 120Hz panel at a 60Hz refresh rate, it feels like something inside the phone is in it's death throes, coughing and spluttering - the stutter is jarring! But if I use my wife's OnePlus 6 (which has a fixed 60Hz screen), it doesn't feel so bad. It's definitely not as smooth as 120Hz but the 60Hz on a 60Hz panel feels smoother than 60Hz on a 120Hz panel. Is it only me or has anyone else had a similar experience?
I have the same issue as well..so pissed..using latest BUKG
I'm on Android 11, One UI 3 still, and when my phone displays split screen apps the refresh rate drops from 120 down to 60.
This must be some battery saving feature, because If I toggle performance mode (processing speed) from the drop down quick menu, the fps shoots back up to 120 in split screen.
So an easy fix if you need 120 in split screen.
Gasman said:
I'm on Android 11, One UI 3 still, and when my phone displays split screen apps the refresh rate drops from 120 down to 60.
This must be some battery saving feature, because If I toggle performance mode (processing speed) from the drop down quick menu, the fps shoots back up to 120 in split screen.
So an easy fix if you need 120 in split screen.
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Yes, that seems to "fix" it for split screen. However, it doesn't resolve picture in picture fps drop to 60Hz.
Hmm must be an Android 12 thing. I'm sat here typing this with YouTube playing pip and the screen is holding 120fps even with my finger removed from the screen.
I did try Android 12 when the public version was released, but didn't like it, so downgraded back to the last version of 11, with a clean wipe.
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
Gasman said:
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
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If you're in low ambient light, screen at low brightness, panel will be locked at 120Hz even with adaptive selected. Move to bright area or increase screen brightness and check if you are able to get to 60Hz
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Hmm must be an Android 12 thing. I'm sat here typing this with YouTube playing pip and the screen is holding 120fps even with my finger removed from the screen.
I did try Android 12 when the public version was released, but didn't like it, so downgraded back to the last version of 11, with a clean wipe.
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Yes, I've only noticed this issue since Android 12 with the picture-in-picture scenario. Hopefully Samsung fixes this soon.
Gasman said:
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
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Nothing odd there - as previous poster mentioned, it's always behaved that way when the ambient lighting is low enough. And yes, has always been that way for AOD too. I never understood why 120Hz is required particularly for that!
I think that after android 12, my unlock animation is rendered at 60hz because it is sometimes sluggish. Did a full factory reset and i have the last update. Do you guys experience the same? other than that the phone is perfectly smooth
Still the same issue with BULC December update. Somewhat disappointing, as you'd think this should be quite an easy fix.
Still same issue after BULG update with PIP. As a previous person has noted, split-screen mode appears to be auto-throttled to 60Hz by default, and the only way to change this so it remains at 120Hz is by toggling "High" or "Maximum" "Processing speed".
Pretty sure, my oneplus 10 pro is stuck at 120hz the whole time which drains A LOT of battery. BUT, isn't this phone meant to be LTPO 2.0 technology which has variable refresh rate as low as 1hz. I am so confused why it doesn't drop to 1hz. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP . I tried those stupid apps like smart hertz and they are useless, shouldn't the phone itself drop to 1hz, like bruh
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Pretty sure, my oneplus 10 pro is stuck at 120hz the whole time which drains A LOT of battery. BUT, isn't this phone meant to be LTPO 2.0 technology which has variable refresh rate as low as 1hz. I am so confused why it doesn't drop to 1hz. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP . I tried those stupid apps like smart hertz and they are useless, shouldn't the phone itself drop to 1hz, like bruh
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Hi, in the developper options settings you can toggle on a settings that show you the live framerate of the screen. You will see it drops at 1hz when nothing is happening on the screen. Warning : it drops only to 10hz when brightness is at middle, and stay at 120hz all time at mid brightness
Hope it helps you
Edit : i tried and mine is also stuck at 120hz or 60hz but never dropping below
It was working few months ago
Working fine here
Screen Recorder Doesn't Support 120fps Record
It's stuck on 120hz on my side on lower brightness levels.
On the Standard refresh rate setting, it's altering between 60hz & 30hz on lower brightness levels.
@regrestbuyingOP10pro are you in quad HD + ? If so try to go back at full HD +, then reboot
On my side variable refresh rate worked again after that, but as soon as I go for quad HD it brake it
Still great battery life with quad HD tho
Edit : tried it again and does not worked this time. I really dont know what's causing that, maybe with debloat I disabled an app nedded for that
Have you used the magisk module, because some time ago, because of some modules, the screen can only switch between 120 and 60hz
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Have you used the magisk module, because some time ago, because of some modules, the screen can only switch between 120 and 60hz
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Interesting, indeed I have some Magisk modules and Lsposed modules. I disabled them all but did not change... Still stuck at 120hz and dropping only to 60 and only when watching a vidéo or with keyboard openend, just as you described. I will restore some disabled system app to see if there is a link
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Interesting, indeed I have some Magisk modules and Lsposed modules. I disabled them all but did not change... Still stuck at 120hz and dropping only to 60 and only when watching a vidéo or with keyboard openend, just as you described. I will restore some disabled system app to see if there is a link
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You can try to remove root to determine the problem
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You can try to remove root to determine the problem
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So i removed root completely, i restored ALL the system apps that i disabled long time ago to debloat the phone, and removed some apps that can changes system settings such as Naptime, 3C toolbox, DarkQ
Rebooted a couple of times and this damn phone is still stuck at 120Hz
I will give up there, except if you have other ideas to test, but i'm too lazy to do a factory reset to see if a ****ter user app is causing this...
Someone have his phone that is dropping fine to 10hz or 1hz with OOS 13 C22, C25 or C26 ?
To know if it is not a system issue of these builds, please tell me
I have never rooted my phone. Refresh rate is working fine for me on C26
Did you try smartherz. Apk
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Did you try smartherz. Apk
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Yep, I can lock some app that were 60hz to 120hz like snapchat, and lock some apps to 60hz
But it don't fix my issue : if I stop scrolling to read something, my screen will never drop hz, and stay still at 120 or 60 depending on how I set it
Hey guys, title says it all. Has anyone else noticed this? It happens on both my X fold and X fold 2. Everything is smooth and great until you start running vids and put them into popup mode and the whole system is slowed to 60hz. Even when you turn it from smart switch to 120. It never happens on my Samsung and Xiaomi devices so it's gotta be something with vivo. Anyone have an idea that could fix it?
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Hey guys, title says it all. Has anyone else noticed this? It happens on both my X fold and X fold 2. Everything is smooth and great until you start running vids and put them into popup mode and the whole system is slowed to 60hz. Even when you turn it from smart switch to 120. It never happens on my Samsung and Xiaomi devices so it's gotta be something with vivo. Anyone have an idea that could fix it?
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it happened to me too all the app i use only run 60 hz exccept home screen and setting its run 120 hz
van1104 said:
it happened to me too all the app i use only run 60 hz exccept home screen and setting its run 120 hz
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Have you set the 120hz mode, then turned on all the apps under the Apps that run in 120hz section too?
I just turned them all on, and even so it'll still drop to 60 in popup mode
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Have you set the 120hz mode, then turned on all the apps under the Apps that run in 120hz section too?
I just turned them all on, and even so it'll still drop to 60 in popup mode
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Have you set the 120hz mode, then turned on all the apps under the Apps that run in 120hz section too?
I just turned them all on, and even so it'll still drop to 60 in popup mode
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hi. i allready did why have to be like this ? this is a joke, thankssss
I wanna say you need to set the performance to maximum somewhere as I had that problem with another phone. I'm not sure how it looks on vivo exactly.
Edit: It was on my Samsung phone
Sanparuzu said:
I wanna say you need to set the performance to maximum somewhere as I had that problem with another phone. I'm not sure how it looks on vivo exactly.
Edit: It was on my Samsung phone
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It's called Boost mode on Vivo and it's in the battery settings. I'll try it now, mess around for a bit and report back
Sanparuzu said:
I wanna say you need to set the performance to maximum somewhere as I had that problem with another phone. I'm not sure how it looks on vivo exactly.
Edit: It was on my Samsung phone
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Just tested it and it still drops. Thanks for the try though.