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I love this phone and all it's features, but the battery power and problems getting old.
The battery life seems to fluctuate to whatever it wants. Sometimes i can go from 12 hours one charge, to 48 hours the next with almost the same usage.
I use msn on my phone for about 30 mins and the battery rating drains from 70% to 20%. But, that 20% ends up lasting me another 10 hours.
I just don't get it, is the problem with the battery or the phone?
I just ordered a 2400 mah battery, which is almost double the 1340 that is in there right now, so i guess i'll see how that works out. Kind of afraid at how big the phone will be though with the extended cover.
Any help will be appreciated or i'm going to dump this phone and get something else quickly.
hey guys, hows your battery doing with heavy usage ?
and whats the idle power draw with screen off? because desire s has 20 mah... thats not exatcly right.. should be 6-7 mah tops imo.
Yup, power draw shows most on the display on mine too. Wonder why, but the battery life is kinda good though.
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Yup, power draw shows most on the display on mine too. Wonder why, but the battery life is kinda good though.
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well tbh that wasnt exatcly the question. its kind of obvious the display uses most power
but how long does it last on lets say heavy usage ? and the other thing- what is the power draw with the screen OFF ? in mah
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well tbh that wasnt exatcly the question. its kind of obvious the display uses most power
but how long does it last on lets say heavy usage ? and the other thing- what is the power draw with the screen OFF ? in mah
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Had a couple of boring days at work, and managed to take at least 80% of the battery life in a 8 hour day with moderate to heavy use.
Not as good as the iphone 4 I had before, but better than the Desire, Galaxy S etc... decent but not mindblowing battery life.
Excuse me for my bad English
I think the battery is consumed by heavy programs or let's say programs consume battery like Live Wallpaper.
Live Wallpapers consume a lot of battery that many experts say don't use it if you don't want it.
I didn't buy the phone yet but I will after two weeks.
For more battery tips and programms running in the background also see topic:
Battery Consumption from jkolner. 5-1-11
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Gladly reporting that the battery life on the IS is extremely satisfactory considering the display and other capabilities.
Got the phone a couple of days back, the first day i charged fully.
The usual setting up of the phone, bluetooth transfers, internet via 3g & wi-fi, gaming, and of course the regualr calls & sms.
The battery lasted me over 13 hours.. still had 14% when i decided to charge again.
now with the usage a little lesser that the excitement has gone down a tad bit, the battery is really efficient.
close to a day (maybe more) with above average usage.
btw, also noticed the battery usage does not seem to vary much with the usage of any task killers
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Gladly reporting that the battery life on the IS is extremely satisfactory considering the display and other capabilities.
Got the phone a couple of days back, the first day i charged fully.
The usual setting up of the phone, bluetooth transfers, internet via 3g & wi-fi, gaming, and of course the regualr calls & sms.
The battery lasted me over 13 hours.. still had 14% when i decided to charge again.
now with the usage a little lesser that the excitement has gone down a tad bit, the battery is really efficient.
close to a day (maybe more) with above average usage.
btw, also noticed the battery usage does not seem to vary much with the usage of any task killers
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cool +10
My battery life so far has been pretty good, my old iphone used to die mid/late afternoon with the sort of usage I put my IS through yesterday (first charge)
Went to work around 8 am, checking emails and facebook every 30 minutes aswell as texting on and off all day. Watched movies and listened to music through lunch hour, downloaded apps. Continued the same as the morning through the afternoon.
Got home and was on it constantly (ebuddy, doubletwist, facebook, market) from 5 till around midnight when it finally died.
Very happy with it.
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My battery life so far has been pretty good, my old iphone used to die mid/late afternoon with the sort of usage I put my IS through yesterday (first charge)
Went to work around 8 am, checking emails and facebook every 30 minutes aswell as texting on and off all day. Watched movies and listened to music through lunch hour, downloaded apps. Continued the same as the morning through the afternoon.
Got home and was on it constantly (ebuddy, doubletwist, facebook, market) from 5 till around midnight when it finally died.
Very happy with it.
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and lol ! if you did all that on the first charge of the phone ... you do know that the battery life increases significantly after a few weeks of usage ?
Today I took my phone off charge at 3.30pm, I'm on 50% with adaptive brightness off. My SOT is 2hrs 10mins, during which I've used WhatsApp, texted, used Chrome, played some music and YouTube videos, and played Temple Run for 20mins. I also have Facebook running, but I haven't used it. It's 7.45pm now, and my phone is at 51% with an estimated time of 5hrs remaining.
So that's 3.5hrs off charge, with about 2hrs SOT time, and I'm on 51%.
Does this sound average for the Nexus 6 or is my battery draining more so than normal?
That sounds way below average. I'm at 49% after 10 hours of heavy use. At least 2 hours internet and 45 min of talk time.
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That sounds way below average. I'm at 49% after 10 hours of heavy use. At least 2 hours internet and 45 min of talk time.
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I have a super hard time believing that you had 10 hours of heavy use or we think heavy use are two different things.
To OP check out the battery life thread in general, could be a variety of rogue apps that are draining in background. If you don't turn things off I'm not surprised if you get around 4.5 hours of SOT
Is there a way to tell how many hours since charge? I just see that I have 12 hrs left
Yes, that is low in my opinion. On similar usage I typically get 6+ SOT 100% to 15%. Probably 75% WiFi, 25% LTE. Auto brightness.
This is about right. On my 3rd nexus 6 and they all exhibited the same behavior. I'm a heavy user as well and lucky if I get 5 hours sot. I had a short stint with a 6+ where I measured bit one day to give me a freakish 9.5hrs when I got down to 4%. I only hope things would get better for the battery as time passes. This is the perfect phone for me in every way except battery life.
LordGrahf said:
This is about right. On my 3rd nexus 6 and they all exhibited the same behavior. I'm a heavy user as well and lucky if I get 5 hours sot. I had a short stint with a 6+ where I measured bit one day to give me a freakish 9.5hrs when I got down to 4%. I only hope things would get better for the battery as time passes. This is the perfect phone for me in every way except battery life.
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You cant accurately measure SOT on iOS so I have a hard time believing this. I have several friends with the 6+ that barely get through the day here at my university, then again I can't vouch for what they do on their phones.
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You cant accurately measure SOT on iOS so I have a hard time believing this. I have several friends with the 6+ that barely get through the day here at my university, then again I can't vouch for what they do on their phones.
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Believe me, on a holiday break without anything better to do you can easily measure it lol
Its incredible battery wise and may be as a phone if you ca stomache iOs, i couldnt.
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Believe me, on a holiday break without anything better to do you can easily measure it lol
Its incredible battery wise and may be as a phone if you ca stomache iOs, i couldnt.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
This question makes no sense, as every battery thread. Battery is subjective, there is no such thing as "average" battery life. It all depends on how you use your phone and how your phone is set up. Everybody has their own kind of apps, setups, carriers.
The better signal strength you have in terms of carrier cellular data, the better battery you'll have.
Depending on what you do on your phone determines battery life. Yeah you can have 6+ hours SOT, but if you play games or watch videos then your battery life will be different from everybody else. Does that mean you have "poor" battery life? No, you just put your phone to more heavy tasks that consumed more battery life.
The way I see battery life, if I was able to end the day without my phone going down to 0% then it did its job. If I have problems with battery life, I'm only 15 minutes away from a quick Turbo Charge up to ~60% or get a portable charger if you don't have access to a wall outlet.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
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No offense taken at all. Quite the opposite, i completely inderstand where you're coming from. I have doubts myself when someone says they're heavy users on nexus 6 and get 8hrs sot. Everyones usage is pretty unique to them and can shift their sot numbers considerably to either side.
That being said and that i got that out of the way lol, what I meant when i said I had a lot of time on my hand is that i really had a lot of time towaste, that 9.5hrs was spent in one sitting believe or not. Most of it was binging on Netflix and the remainder was browsing on safari. I pretty much use my Nexus 6 the same way where its strictly split between Netflix/yiutube and chrome. Most if it on Wifi.
I didn't install any apps on top of stock in either phone except for google maps on iOS and adaway/titanium/greenify on nexus 6. I use the browser for everything else like facebook etc. And i dont play any games on my phones. May be my sot on the 6+ would've been different if my usage was different, but for my use case and setup the 6+ had the much better battery life.
However i ended up going back to the nexus 6 because its the better phone overall imo. I just need to find a way to improve the battery. I was hoping greenify would help a lot, but it didnt help much so far. My galaxy nexus had horrid battery life BUT the battery was replaceable and that made all the difference in the world, whuch this phone sadly lacks.
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No offense taken at all. Quite the opposite, i completely inderstand where you're coming from. I have doubts myself when someone says they're heavy users on nexus 6 and get 8hrs sot. Everyones usage is pretty unique to them and can shift their sot numbers considerably to either side.
That being said and that i got that out of the way lol, what I meant when i said I had a lot of time on my hand is that i really had a lot of time towaste, that 9.5hrs was spent in one sitting believe or not. Most of it was binging on Netflix and the remainder was browsing on safari. I pretty much use my Nexus 6 the same way where its strictly split between Netflix/yiutube and chrome. Most if it on Wifi.
I didn't install any apps on top of stock in either phone except for google maps on iOS and adaway/titanium/greenify on nexus 6. I use the browser for everything else like facebook etc. And i dont play any games on my phones. May be my sot on the 6+ would've been different if my usage was different, but for my use case and setup the 6+ had the much better battery life.
However i ended up going back to the nexus 6 because its the better phone overall imo. I just need to find a way to improve the battery. I was hoping greenify would help a lot, but it didnt help much so far. My galaxy nexus had horrid battery life BUT the battery was replaceable and that made all the difference in the world, whuch this phone sadly lacks.
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I see, thank you for clarifying your usage. If you want better battery life I recommend trying Franco kernel with Vomer Tweaks. I had 7.5 hours SOT with 25% battery left before I flashed a updated ROM and made a TWRP backup. I could have easily made it to 8.5-9hours SOT, however it was already 2300 and I didn't feel like staring at my screen until 0100 just to see if I could get more SOT. My phone was on all day since 0730 that morning, including time I used Bluetooth for GP music at the gym and some casting to my Nexus Player. Good battery life is possible but as you said everyone is different.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
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I see, thank you for clarifying your usage. If you want better battery life I recommend trying Franco kernel with Vomer Tweaks. I had 7.5 hours SOT with 25% battery left before I flashed a updated ROM and made a TWRP backup. I could have easily made it to 8.5-9hours SOT, however it was already 2300 and I didn't feel like staring at my screen until 0100 just to see if I could get more SOT. My phone was on all day since 0730 that morning, including time I used Bluetooth for GP music at the gym and some casting to my Nexus Player. Good battery life is possible but as you said everyone is different.
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Wow that sounds impressive and really all that i need as sot goes. I'll def read up on how to do it and give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the replies guys.
Okay, so went to bed, phone was at 79% battery. This morning it was about 74% or so. Been on Chrome checking stuff, it's dropped to about 65% in half an hour. Screen brightness is around 30%. WiFi on, half cellular signal. I'm not doing anything intensive. My SoT so far is 1hr 40mins. Standby time is 12hrs.
So tl;dr - dropped 5% over 12hrs on standby, then 9% in half an hour with the screen on at 30% brightness using mainly Chrome.
I guess am just a little concerned in case I have a defective battery or something. I've alrady had one replacement already due to the camera arriving damaged.
What do you guys think?
zingxao said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Okay, so went to bed, phone was at 79% battery. This morning it was about 74% or so. Been on Chrome checking stuff, it's dropped to about 65% in half an hour. Screen brightness is around 30%. WiFi on, half cellular signal. I'm not doing anything intensive. My SoT so far is 1hr 40mins. Standby time is 12hrs.
So tl;dr - dropped 5% over 12hrs on standby, then 9% in half an hour with the screen on at 30% brightness using mainly Chrome.
I guess am just a little concerned in case I have a defective battery or something. I've alrady had one replacement already due to the camera arriving damaged.
What do you guys think?
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Sounds about right. 9% in half an hour would give you 5 hrs SOT, and thats about average.
If you were doing Franko kernel with volmer tweaks that would be low. They do a lot to slow processor down and reduce capability to save battery, but you probably wouldn't be able to tell except for the occasional lag while scrolling a web page.
I get about 3.5-4 hours SOT. Seems fine to me. I don't do anything whatsoever to save battery. I keep the screen brightness how I like it.
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Wow that sounds impressive and really all that i need as sot goes. I'll def read up on how to do it and give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
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Here is mine so far today. The reboot is from when I updated Franco kernel to r4. I used google play music at the gym and Bluetooth in my car driving to and from the gym and store. Battery life can be as good as you want it to be.
Edit: also I was only on WiFi for 40 minutes and LTE the rest of the time
I know it's a large battery that's why I'm asking this question. My p9 plus drops from 100-95 relatively quickly just by using whatsapp and instagram. like less than an hour. Is that normal or is it just me?
Sorry but that is bad?
Which mobile are you coming from???
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Sorry but that is bad?
Which mobile are you coming from???
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errr..? the huawei p9 plus? Cause some people say they could get more than a day out of this phone with normal usage but I can't seem to do that haha. I could if I keep the screen off like most of the time but definitely not normal usage.
A lot depends on the phone signal, if you move into areas where the signal is poor the phone is constantly looking to better that signal... Using more power. 5% an hour is pretty good by my reconning.. Will give you around 20 hours to zero.
I am coming from samsung A8. Comparing A8 the p9 plus is better in battery back up for me.
Mine is good too. Comparing with Xperia Z1 Compact is much much better. I have 5 to 6 hours of SOT and above average usage. With normal usage usualy I have close to 7 hours and 3 to 5% juice in it.
my battery life is amazing, best I've ever had on a phone, I would install wakelock detector and see whats eating your battery, I recently got over a 100 hrs between charges which is amazing, SOT was 7 hours 26 min, I do have greenify installed though which helps.
2 days and 1 hour here with 22℅ left and 5 hours SOT
This thing is just amazing
For me battery is perfect, mostly 2 days between charge and 6 hours SOT, no root pure stock for now all with normal usage.
Best battery I've ever had on any phone, even the ones with 4000mAh battery can't match this. This thing just rocks! After 3 full charging cycles I am stable on 2 days between charging with most of the time on wi-fi or 4g/3g and gps on when needed and my SOT is 8hrs up. Righ now I have 11%batt remaining and 8hrs 01min SOT.
Huawei P9 Plus (VIE-L29, stock-rom b170)
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Best battery I've ever had on any phone, even the ones with 4000mAh battery can't match this. This thing just rocks! After 3 full charging cycles I am stable on 2 days between charging with most of the time on wi-fi or 4g/3g and gps on when needed and my SOT is 8hrs up. Righ now I have 11%batt remaining and 8hrs 01min SOT.
Huawei P9 Plus (VIE-L29, stock-rom b170)
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What do you mean full charge cycle? And 2 days with 6 hours screen on time meaning your battery can last 2 days inclusive of the 6 hours SOT? cause for mine, I plugged it out at 9am and now it's already at 49%. Screen on time probably about 3-4 hours so far.
That is insane amount of screen on time. If this for was 2k screen I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. I have to wait for the P10 Plus
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What do you mean full charge cycle? And 2 days with 6 hours screen on time meaning your battery can last 2 days inclusive of the 6 hours SOT? cause for mine, I plugged it out at 9am and now it's already at 49%. Screen on time probably about 3-4 hours so far.
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i think he means that he load the P9 Plus 3 time from 0 to 100%
Dropping from 100% to 95% after using Whatspp and Instagram for an hour is normal. My P9 Plus can last me more than 1 day with noramal browsing, emails, SMS and Whatsapp. It is way better than my LG V10.
First battery cycle and second cycle
WhatsApp all day
1 hour instagram
1 hour eyeem
2 hours lightning browser
Some photos
Easy 6+ hours SOT
The battery is not as good as I expected. I unplugged it at 6.45am and my usage are as follows:
WhatsApp
Facebook
Clash of Clans
Instagram
WeChat
and a little bit of browsing
My battery was 11% when I got home at 7pm. SOT was around 3 hours. Is this normal? I have to charge my phone everyday unlike what others has said.
everyone have different apps installed and we all use our device differently. Waste of time to compare each others battery life.
I have a lot of **** running in the background and i just charge when i need. Nothing i worry about, always a arm length from an electrical outlet. (home, work, school, train etc.)
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The battery is not as good as I expected. I unplugged it at 6.45am and my usage are as follows:
WhatsApp
Facebook
Clash of Clans
Instagram
WeChat
and a little bit of browsing
My battery was 11% when I got home at 7pm. SOT was around 3 hours. Is this normal? I have to charge my phone everyday unlike what others has said.
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Unfortunately all the apps u r running are power-intensive. I suppose if u keep running those apps from 6.45am until 7pm (which is more than 12 hours) and still left some juice on it, this should consider very good battery life already.
The P10 should be a serious contender when it comes out. I am torn between Samsung S8, Sony Zeus and the P10 Plus. I'm really interested to see what the P10 plus and Sony Zeus have to offer.
I just got phone two days now ,At second charge,very satisfied
I know it depends how you using it and so on. But generally?
I think mine is worse then pixel 4 xl. Have only charged it like 4 times but still. Using some Instagram, Facebook, Spotify, news , youtube.
Mostly wifi and feels like battery is dropping really fast.
I'm getting 7-8 hours SoT when battery hitting around 25-30% left. Here's my thread from my first findings.
Battery life?
So I'm coming from a 3 XL, and I even got the battery replaced April 2021, and I was getting about four hours SoT. My 7 in only two days is blowing my mind. Yesterday I had five hours SoT, and today after a full charge, It went from 100% to 99%...
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Today's usage.
its about the same as pixel 6 for me maybe a little less from daily usage...but smoother for sure and the phone is a little bit smaller which is always a plus
My battery sucks ATM. Only had like 3 full charges so might settle and getting better , hopefully
Another quick update. Haven't used the phone that much yesterday or today yet, and I'm happy with standby time. Over 34 hours off the charger with over 4 hours SoT, and still has over 40% battery.
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Another quick update. Haven't used the phone that much yesterday or today yet, and I'm happy with standby time. Over 34 hours off the charger with over 4 hours SoT, and still has over 40% battery.
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Doesn't sound great.
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Doesn't sound great.
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LOL what do you want? 20 hours SoT? Maybe because I'm coming from a 3 XL with a 3430 battery that after 4 hours of SoT, and only being off the charger for 12 hours, not well over 30, my battery would be at 10%, not 40%, but to me this is freaking awesome battery life.
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LOL what do you want? 20 hours SoT? Maybe because I'm coming from a 3 XL with a 3430 battery that after 4 hours of SoT, and only being off the charger for 12 hours, not well over 30, my battery would be at 10%, not 40%, but to me this is freaking awesome battery life.
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20 would be stellar.
Anyone getting battery drain with Spotify?
Was listening for 3h with bluetooth headphones and it said Spotify needed 23% which i feel is quite a lot.
3h display on used 5%
Mine is honestly making me regret buying the phone. Too late, sent my trade in yesterday.
I previously had the Pixel 5a and got around 9.5 hours of screen on time over 24 hours. I think most days I could go about 30 hours before running empty.
My P7 gets around 6 hours of screen time over about 18 hours.
So a battery that's 7% smaller is seeing battery life more than 30% worse.
I'm not very happy with the battery life as you can tell, and I just hope a software update can improve things.
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Mine is honestly making me regret buying the phone. Too late, sent my trade in yesterday.
I previously had the Pixel 5a and got around 9.5 hours of screen on time over 24 hours. I think most days I could go about 30 hours before running empty.
My P7 gets around 6 hours of screen time over about 18 hours.
So a battery that's 7% smaller is seeing battery life more than 30% worse.
I'm not very happy with the battery life as you can tell, and I just hope a software update can improve things.
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That's the only thing that scares me from getting it.
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That's the only thing that scares me from getting it.
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Other than the battery life the phone is fantastic haha. It's not unmanageable, I do keep good high-watt chargers in most places like home, work, car, etc. But sometimes I go do something all day and I'm not near a charger. Guess I'll just get used to using battery saver mode in those situations.
I do enjoy the phone, but the battery giving me anxiety is not very fun.
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Other than the battery life the phone is fantastic haha. It's not unmanageable, I do keep good high-watt chargers in most places like home, work, car, etc. But sometimes I go do something all day and I'm not near a charger. Guess I'll just get used to using battery saver mode in those situations.
I do enjoy the phone, but the battery giving me anxiety is not very fun.
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Yeah. I guess. Working 10 hrs makes me nervous about battery life. Lol.
dont reference your SOT, reference it to your previous phone, everone usage SOT is different, one person maybe have 5 hours SOT but on the camera for 70% one person may have 10 hours but only use it for texting or internet.
What ways have you guys found to extend battery life during normal use? Without having to severely reduce the functionality of the phone, ie 5g or reducing screen brightness a ton. I feel like a modern phone a lot of the point is the screen and 5g so those I wouldn't want to sacrifice
Are there settings or other apps that can help? I'm fairly new to Android and so far I've been a bit disappointed with the battery life of the P7.
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What ways have you guys found to extend battery life during normal use? Without having to severely reduce the functionality of the phone, ie 5g or reducing screen brightness a ton. I feel like a modern phone a lot of the point is the screen and 5g so those I wouldn't want to sacrifice
Are there settings or other apps that can help? I'm fairly new to Android and so far I've been a bit disappointed with the battery life of the P7.
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What kind of battery life are you getting? I only play around on mine (Instagram, Pinterest, SnapChat, and some Candy Crush games), and my main drain is Clash Royale, and I get around 7-8 hour SoT with 20% remaining. I switched 5G off, and only use LTE because 5G (at least in my area) is bad.
Man, y'all must've been spoiled with like 10+ hours of SOT with your old phones... I get around 6-8 with 30 hrs total which I think is pretty dang good. But like someone else said SOT will be much different from person to person based on device usage. I watched a 2hr downloaded movie from Netflix with airplane mode on and it only dropped 12%. And with adaptive charging, I just charge it all night which it will charge, slowly, till full until my alarm goes off.
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Man, y'all must've been spoiled with like 10+ hours of SOT with your old phones... I get around 6-8 with 30 hrs total which I think is pretty dang good. But like someone else said SOT will be much different from person to person based on device usage. I watched a 2hr downloaded movie from Netflix with airplane mode on and it only dropped 12%. And with adaptive charging, I just charge it all night which it will charge, slowly, till full until my alarm goes off.
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Exactly. My experience is the opposite though. I came from a 3 XL, and by the time I switched from it to the 7 my battery capacity was down to around 2800. My 7 is like a God send for me. 7-8 hours SoT with the same use as my 3 XL, and I still have 30% left, when my 3 XL would be down to 2%. I couldn't be happier.
I came from the OnePlus9 and all around the OnePlus9 is a better device.
Google has a great UI experience, but these Tensor2 chips do not compete in performance or efficiency with the Snapdragon 888s or higher.
Theyre missing a lot of the refinement that Qualcomm has done with the hardware and it shows.
For those coming from a Pixel 3-5 series, yes this is a big upgrade, and many got great trade-in deals which is what made me give this phone a shot. It does not however live up to it's MSRP. Im hoping Google is able to refine things to greatly improve efficiency on these devices.