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Hello everyone!
Creating this thread in order to clarify some details about our device.
I recently bought it (Europe version-xt1085,3Gb RAM/32gb) but instead of a SD625 it has a SD626. How is it possible? And giving the fact that there are rumors that also note that our camera sensor is a Sony IMX 258 Bayer and not a samsung CMOS makes me doubt much of the initial information provided or found. Can somebody please post different screenshots from the first page of CPU-Z and also to check system/etc/camera for camera msm Sanders XML for those who have the device rooted? I do not want to root it yet as Oreo updates are rolling in a couple of days.
I also want to find a solution to exceed the limitations of the software processing of the camera to the full potential of the sensor (if it is a Sony one indeed).
Thank you
Also take a look at the attachment.
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SD 626 too
Mine also says Snapdragon 626, it's a CPU-Z bug. But regarding the camera sensor I have no idea if there's any way to improve the image quality via modifying the image processing.
Aptony said:
SD 626 too
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Do you have a XT1085 or XT1084?
And could you please pull out the files i requested?
The ones in the camera foldee that write Msm sanders or so. The ones who show the real camera sensor.
AhReLocazo said:
Mine also says Snapdragon 626, it's a CPU-Z bug. But regarding the camera sensor I have no idea if there's any way to improve the image quality via modifying the image processing.
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I checked with different applications. You might be right. It is very odd tho.
What about the camera files?
If you go to Moto G5 Plus's theming and modding forum, you'll see a thread explaining how. And how it gives rise to possibilities of other devices as well.
Sniper Killer said:
I checked with different applications. You might be right. It is very odd tho.
What about the camera files?
If you go to Moto G5 Plus's theming and modding forum, you'll see a thread explaining how. And how it gives rise to possibilities of other devices as well.
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Mine is an XT1806, and it's not rooted so I don't think I can get those files. Let me see
Sniper Killer said:
Do you have a XT1085 or XT1084?
And could you please pull out the files i requested?
The ones in the camera foldee that write Msm sanders or so. The ones who show the real camera sensor.
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XT1800 Latam
Aptony said:
XT1800 Latam
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I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.
Sniper Killer said:
I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.
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Btw I remember you from the Galaxy Ace i days
Aptony said:
Btw I remember you from the Galaxy Ace i days
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Wow that is so nice! And nostalgic. Its been a few years of my absence. I am back with this device now and it is intriguing me a lot to develop again. Currently waiting for the Oreo update and then I'll do my full research on the device.
Sniper Killer said:
I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.
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Are you sure thats not the selfie cam? Pretty sure the dual camera has been 100% confirmed a sony sensor already
(Link) This guy contacted moto directly and they said it was the IMX258 / IMX258 Mono
William1020000 said:
Are you sure thats not the selfie cam? Pretty sure the dual camera has been 100% confirmed a sony sensor already
(Link) This guy contacted moto directly and they said it was the IMX258 / IMX258 Mono
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You can see clearly the name S5K3L8 as the rear sensor (mono&rgb). And at the other screenshot, the name S5K4H8 which is a selfie samsung sensor. You can google both of these sensors and their details are going to match our device's details.
There are also two files of the IMX258 in the camera folder but they're useless or maybe they put it to fake the users who, like me and many more, would be pissed off if they found out what a crap of a sensor they would have in their device.
The dev of the camera improvements of G5 Plus told me that the only way of improving it is by copying the tuning of other S5K3L8 sensors used in other devices. But it is used in Xiaomi Redmi 4 and its camera is worse than ours so i don't think that is going to be a good idea. Another way actually is by modifying the libs yourself. Which i cannot do at the moment.
Just use Google Camera for taking pictures atm. Its HDR+ mode is a touch of magic.
Sniper Killer said:
You can see clearly the name S5K3L8 as the rear sensor (mono&rgb). And at the other screenshot, the name S5K4H8 which is a selfie samsung sensor. You can google both of these sensors and their details are going to match our device's details.
There are also two files of the IMX258 in the camera folder but they're useless or maybe they put it to fake the users who, like me and many more, would be pissed off if they found out what a crap of a sensor they would have in their device.
The dev of the camera improvements of G5 Plus told me that the only way of improving it is by copying the tuning of other S5K3L8 sensors used in other devices. But it is used in Xiaomi Redmi 4 and its camera is worse than ours so i don't think that is going to be a good idea. Another way actually is by modifying the libs yourself. Which i cannot do at the moment.
Just use Google Camera for taking pictures atm. Its HDR+ mode is a touch of magic.
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The only way to confirm properly is to look at the hardware. Any idea where we may be able to find images of just the Samsung camera module so I can compare it the the one in my G5S+?
To be honest I'm very happy with the way my HDR+ photos turn out.
My family are convinced this has a better camera than the iPhone SE from using gcam, so the phone must be somewhat capable of good photos Low light photos are crap though, tons of noise.
EDIT: Samsung specs say the S5K3L8 sensor is capable of only 30fps. Given we can record 1080p/60fps maybe it isn't that sensor?
That's strange, my g5s plus can only shoot 1080p/30fps. I don't know if it was after the latest camera update or not.
Edit: my mistake, apparently i was looking at the front camera settings. The rear camera can shot 1080p/60 just fine and are up to 30fps 4k
William1020000 said:
The only way to confirm properly is to look at the hardware. Any idea where we may be able to find images of just the Samsung camera module so I can compare it the the one in my G5S+?
To be honest I'm very happy with the way my HDR+ photos turn out.
My family are convinced this has a better camera than the iPhone SE from using gcam, so the phone must be somewhat capable of good photos Low light photos are crap though, tons of noise.
EDIT: Samsung specs say the S5K3L8 sensor is capable of only 30fps. Given we can record 1080p/60fps maybe it isn't that sensor?
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The samsung sensor is capable of shooting 4k videos but it is not enabled in most devices that are using it. For example in Xiaomi Redmi devices. I do not know precisely why and how but any speculation would bring no improvement to the camera whatsoever.
Hello everybody!
I have just got a new A80 just to see how the camera would perform, especially the wide-angle lens. It was super disappointing.. So I went on the internet to install gcam and I got good results. However, I didn't see a single way to get the wide-angle camera work without rooting the device. The question is;
Is there any GCAM version that can enable the wide-angle lens without rooting on the Samsung Galaxy A80?
Please bear in mind that I must have tried over 30 different versions that have been made for generic use and/or model specific uses for different devices. Even tho those apk's can enable the wide-angle lens for different devices, they did not do that for A80.
I hope there can be somebody with an answer here. Thanks in advance.
Im my opinion GCAM pictures are way better. The only cameras exynos can use gcam is front main and ultrawide. There is much more detail in the main gcam camera. I wonder the difference with the other lenses
That's completely up to Samsung. If more people are interested, they need to go into the Samsung Members app and voice their opinions. Don't actually say it's for GCam though obviously. The trick is to demand RAW access for all cameras since right now only RAW for main and ultra wide are available.
For example: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S21/please-allow-all-cameras-on-pro-mode/td-p/1718372
Yes Gcam pictures are better than stock
Masikj said:
Im my opinion GCAM pictures are way better. The only cameras exynos can use gcam is front main and ultrawide. There is much more detail in the main gcam camera. I wonder the difference with the other lenses
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Which version of GCAM have you used so far, can you share a link please?
beserker15 said:
That's completely up to Samsung. If more people are interested, they need to go into the Samsung Members app and voice their opinions. Don't actually say it's for GCam though obviously. The trick is to demand RAW access for all cameras since right now only RAW for main and ultra wide are available.
For example: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S21/please-allow-all-cameras-on-pro-mode/td-p/1718372
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Isn't that for the US market? Let's organize and pump the EXYNOS forum full of posts on the matter, so they may actually see a large number of people asking for it and possibly listen?
franagan75 said:
Yes Gcam pictures are better than stock
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Can you share a link of the GCAM you are using?
babyboy3265 said:
Isn't that for the US market? Let's organize and pump the EXYNOS forum full of posts on the matter, so they may actually see a large number of people asking for it and possibly listen?
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My particular example was because I'm in the US haha. I would guess that if you make a post on Members, it'll take you to whichever region you're in. You can then share the links too and others can like/comment on it. I'm just mainly saying we should do it on Samsung's official forums since while some Samsung employees do occasionally check XDA, it's pretty rare.
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Which version of GCAM have you used so far, can you share a link please?
Isn't that for the US market? Let's organize and pump the EXYNOS forum full of posts on the matter, so they may actually see a large number of people asking for it and possibly listen?
Can you share a link of the GCAM you are using?
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Zoran: ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03359.apk
Download ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03359.apk by Zoran.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Im using 7.4 version of gcam For me 7.4 version works better than 8.1,8.1 pictures on low light has violet color on borders
franagan75 said:
Zoran: ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03359.apk
Download ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03359.apk by Zoran.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Im using 7.4 version of gcam For me 7.4 version works better than 8.1,8.1 pictures on low light has violet color on borders
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Any changes on setting u use ? , can u provide your settings SS
Does Gcam lets you access portrait mode?
Since the last software update the x3 optical lens on the S21 U has become my favourite lens to shoot from. Its essentially a nifty fifty with f stop down to below 1.4 thanks to the computational photography magic.
I persume Gcam lets you do similar bokeh?
Gzoom82 said:
Does Gcam lets you access portrait mode?
Since the last software update the x3 optical lens on the S21 U has become my favourite lens to shoot from. Its essentially a nifty fifty with f stop down to below 1.4 thanks to the computational photography magic.
I persume Gcam lets you do similar bokeh?
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Not really, Gcam needs to see a person in the shot to give you the bokeh...
Gzoom82 said:
Does Gcam lets you access portrait mode?
Since the last software update the x3 optical lens on the S21 U has become my favourite lens to shoot from. Its essentially a nifty fifty with f stop down to below 1.4 thanks to the computational photography magic.
I persume Gcam lets you do similar bokeh?
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Portrait only works on people
franagan75 said:
Portrait only works on people
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Thanks, is that how it works on the Pixel phones too? Shame to think it woudlnt work on non human subjects.
Anyone have better settings than default for BSG latest gcam for exy version ? Mind share some SS for me ?
Gzoom82 said:
Thanks, is that how it works on the Pixel phones too? Shame to think it woudlnt work on non human subjects.
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No, on Pixel phones portrait mode does work on objects as well.
franagan75 said:
Zoran: ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03359.apk
Download ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03359.apk by Zoran.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Im using 7.4 version of gcam For me 7.4 version works better than 8.1,8.1 pictures on low light has violet color on borders
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Are you using any XML? Can you share it? Thanks!
beserker15 said:
That's completely up to Samsung. If more people are interested, they need to go into the Samsung Members app and voice their opinions. Don't actually say it's for GCam though obviously. The trick is to demand RAW access for all cameras since right now only RAW for main and ultra wide are available.
For example: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S21/please-allow-all-cameras-on-pro-mode/td-p/1718372
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lol maybe Samsung people do read XDA. After sharing that link (which was posted on Samsung Members almost 2 months ago), a Samsung moderator finally tagged it as a feature request the day after!
I've tried the Gcam for the S21 Ultra, and I even find the overall colors on the Gcam pictures better, but it doesn't even support the full hardware with my SD888.
If you're looking to improve a single photo, you're better off using Lightroom or something like it, you'll get better results if you're willing to put a little effort. If you want to just shoot anything and have it look good, you're **** out of luck, maybe consider an iPhone, I'm sure they have a forum around somewhere.
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lol maybe Samsung people do read XDA. After sharing that link (which was posted on Samsung Members almost 2 months ago), a Samsung moderator finally tagged it as a feature request the day after!
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Maybe we should find some moderators and message them directly?
Guys please sign this petition so it can grow ASAP and be noticed.
RAW Support for all cameras (inc.Telephoto not only main/ultra.w) on S21, S21 Ultra Exynos
The Samsung S21 series is an amazing flagship phone featured in 2021. It's great in many aspects. Though I think there are issues. The issue is that I don't think that we are getting the most out of this great hardware. Us owners of the S21 are...
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From what I have found seeing post in this forum, it's all about color correction where gcam is good, in that case I would rather fiddle with it myself in ligthroom, once you get used to it, it's a piece of cake, this is what I got from my s21ultra
sanghaviraj said:
From what I have found seeing post in this forum, it's all about color correction where gcam is good, in that case I would rather fiddle with it myself in ligthroom, once you get used to it, it's a piece of cake, this is what I got from my s21ultra
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It's actually not haha. Stock cam does well with man made things with flat, smooth surfaces like buildings and cars. It struggles with nature sometimes though, especially the 10x telephoto. Adding contrast and sharpening is easy, removing it is hard.
Hi All,
GCAM for S21 Ultra. For Exynos, try BSG or Zoran. BSG has recently updated.
Anybody using GCAM on S21 Ultra Exynos variant? Kindly post here which version and config file you're using.
What's working & what are the known issues with Exynos variant?
Same here
I use ZGCAM based on GCAM 7.4
Zoran: ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03387.apk
Download ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03387.apk by Zoran.
www.celsoazevedo.com
What is your settings ? Did all the lenses work ?
dezborders said:
Zoran: ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03387.apk
Download ZGCAM_7.4_V1.03387.apk by Zoran.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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Can you share your settings ? And did all the lenses work ?
iamcgs said:
What is your settings ? Did all the lenses work ?
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Check OP has been updated. You might want to try yourself as others have not replied.
I just checked the BSG version. Main and front lens are mostly not better with GCam. Especially 108 mp mode wipers the floor with anything GCam does in good light. Also dynamic range is better on stock camera. In some cases GCam has better detail than the 12 mp pics from stock, but this is unreliable.
The one thing GCam ROCKS is with the ultra wide lens. MUCH more detail. A completely different outcome. This alone will let me keep GCam as a secondary camera app.
Tele lenses are unavailable. Unsurprisingly so, because not even stock pro cam can access them. Sad. Imagine the 3x cam being as improved as the ultra wide ...
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
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www.celsoazevedo.com
try (com.samsung.android.ruler) #
also its updated regulary
any news on gcam on exy ???
Macro shoot works better with gcam
anujyadava said:
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
try (com.samsung.android.ruler) #
also its updated regulary
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Do you know what are the differences between the versions? What does rules stand for and what are all the rest?
babyboy3265 said:
Do you know what are the differences between the versions? What does rules stand for and what are all the rest?
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Ya me too , i want to know what is the difference between ruler and 3d scan apks
anujyadava said:
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
try (com.samsung.android.ruler) #
also its updated regulary
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Can someone do stock vs gcam for all leneses in some scenarios?
babyboy3265 said:
Do you know what are the differences between the versions? What does rules stand for and what are all the rest?
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iamcgs said:
Ya me too , i want to know what is the difference between ruler and 3d scan apks
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There are no differences, especially with Exynos for now. Samsung on the Snapdragon model allows telephoto to be used, but only with certain Samsung package names. Ruler and Scan3d are real Samsung apps that GCam is pretending to be in order to access the two telephotos.
However, for Exynos, Samsung still doesn't allow access of the telephotos via this method, so you don't need to use the Samsung package names as all of them will work the same.
anujyadava said:
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
try (com.samsung.android.ruler) #
also its updated regulary
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I thoroughly confirm that this version of GCAM manages to pull out visibly better quality and more detail from the Ultra wide lenses. Both in normal mode and night mode as well.
HRD+ (enabled trough the settings) Also gives pretty good result. However the GCAM app doesn't fix up the occasional fish-eye distortion that comes with Ultra wide lenses. (fixable easily is post) While the Samsung cam does it by default.
babyboy3265 said:
I thoroughly confirm that this version of GCAM manages to pull out visibly better quality and more detail from the Ultra wide lenses. Both in normal mode and night mode as well.
HRD+ (enabled trough the settings) Also gives pretty good result. However the GCAM app doesn't fix up the occasional fish-eye distortion that comes with Ultra wide lenses. (fixable easily is post) While the Samsung cam does it by default.
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Thanks for the information. Im also an exynos user. Do you use a lib or xml file? I look to get the most quality out of photos (detail) . Or any settings adjusted?
I do not use any config file at all
Masikj said:
Thanks for the information. Im also an exynos user. Do you use a lib or xml file? I look to get the most quality out of photos (detail) . Or any settings adjusted?
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I haven't ebanbled any config at all. Straight up as it is. I only enabled HDR+ control, which makes a an extra HDR button to appear in the on screen camera controls (little down looking arrow on of screen)
Regardless of hdr. I only used the ultrawide camera a few times. I'm pretty satisfied with the original camera for all other modes.
If a good photos is not too well colored or exposed by default, I use Snapseed to adjust it to my likings. Only takes 10-15 extra seconds.
Hi guys, soon-to-be S21 Ultra (exynos) user here. Has anything changed in regards to auxiliary lenses in apps like GCam? Do the telephotos work, or still just the ultra wide? Thanks.
jericho246 said:
Hi guys, soon-to-be S21 Ultra (exynos) user here. Has anything changed in regards to auxiliary lenses in apps like GCam? Do the telephotos work, or still just the ultra wide? Thanks.
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To my knowledge still only UW and UWW, so no telephoto lenses on GCams.... I'd be very happy if someone could correct me, though
It seems that the S22 Ultra use a lot of the same stuff like lenses, maybe the whole camera setup. So we dont know, if they improve software AI and we also dont know, if that really requires Exynos 2200 or SD8 Gen1.
In the past, there were many things ported from newer models to older models. Even GCAM get a port.
Im interested into the updated camera app from the S22U because of 108MP enhancer mode and less noice in video.
Do you think it is possible and someone will do?
I use the unofficial ExpertRAW heavily and in my opinion it can improve image quality a lot. As long as nobody compare ExpertRAW from both phones, I doubt there will be much hardware upgrades in camera Departement.
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It seems that the S22 Ultra use a lot of the same stuff like lenses, maybe the whole camera setup. So we dont know, if they improve software AI and we also dont know, if that really requires Exynos 2200 or SD8 Gen1.
In the past, there were many things ported from newer models to older models. Even GCAM get a port.
Im interested into the updated camera app from the S22U because of 108MP enhancer mode and less noice in video.
Do you think it is possible and someone will do?
I use the unofficial ExpertRAW heavily and in my opinion it can improve image quality a lot. As long as nobody compare ExpertRAW from both phones, I doubt there will be much hardware upgrades in camera Departement.
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+1, I've been wondering about the same as well,back when I owned an S8+, I remember getting rom ports of the note 8 alongside which you would get the new camera app as well
I know getting the entire rom ported over to the phone,only the camera app should be sufficient here since software updates pretty much bridge any and all difference between phones except for specific apps,like the camera
S22 runs on oneui 4.1, we are on 4.0 probably some of the new features will be available for us once we get an update. To be honest I would wait till that and then see if there is anything "missing".
Probably samsung will restrict something for newest device, but there is a chance that we will get nearly everything as the hardware should not be an issue.
The improvements on main camera seems impossible to port on 21U for the isp on snapdragon 888 can't take one photo in 108MP mode and 12MP mode at the same time which is available on snapdragon 8 Gen 1.