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For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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There are a number of roms for the 10.1 Pro which has the Exynos does it not? They may be TouchWiz based but still debloated and faster.
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There are a number of roms for the 10.1 Pro which has the Exynos does it not? They may be TouchWiz based but still debloated and faster.
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I guess you're right. For me those modified stock ROM'S never provided enough benefit to make me root my tablet to install. By custom ROM'S I mean ROM'S that include such things as tweaked kernels, ie, Cyanogen Mod.
The reason there was little development for the 10.1 Pro wasn't Exynos, it was because no one bought it. N10.1-14's with S Pen could be had as refurbs for $350 and even at retail they were close to the same price. After the N10.1-14 received 4.4 the only thing missing compared to the Pro was M-UX and to some that was a good thing. The N10.1-14's dev community if fairly decent for a tablet. Samsung's going to sink gazillions of marketing dollars in to the S' and with their AMOLED displays they finally have a distinguishing feature. Whether officially or via neglect the 8.4/10.1 Pro's are dead with the equivalent S' replacing them.
Everyone's claiming confusion about Samsung's tablet line but it's actually pretty clear. Entry level = Tab 4's, premium devices = the S', and productivity/creation devices = the Note's. The non-Note Pro's were apparently just a stop gap until the S' were ready.
Regardless, comparing development for the S' to the 10.1 Pro's is apples and oranges.
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The reason there was little development for the 10.1 Pro wasn't Exynos, it was because no one bought it. N10.1-14's with S Pen could be had as refurbs for $350 and even at retail they were close to the same price. After the N10.1-14 received 4.4 the only thing missing compared to the Pro was M-UX and to some that was a good thing. The N10.1-14's dev community if fairly decent for a tablet. Samsung's going to sink gazillions of marketing dollars in to the S' and with their AMOLED displays they finally have a distinguishing feature. Whether officially or via neglect the 8.4/10.1 Pro's are dead with the equivalent S' replacing them.
Everyone's claiming confusion about Samsung's tablet line but it's actually pretty clear. Entry level = Tab 4's, premium devices = the S', and productivity/creation devices = the Note's. The non-Note Pro's were apparently just a stop gap until the S' were ready.
Regardless, comparing development for the S' to the 10.1 Pro's is apples and oranges.
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Hey BarryH, long time no see. Yep, there will be plenty of development for the 10.5 S as it is likely to be very popular.
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Hey BarryH, long time no see.
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Hey there. For once I'm not lusting after the next "shiny" thing on the horizon; for both my phone and tablet. I have a N10.1-14 that I love and its replaced my laptop 50% of the time. Next time I'm in Latin America I'm going to replace my 3G with a 4G version sold there that works on AT&T. All Samsung's newer high-end tablets are really the same with some s/w and h/w tweaks. With the exception of the Tab S' AMOLED display and finger print reader mostly the former. UI wise, with the exception of M-UX being omitted, Samsung brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro" level with the 4.4 update. If I didn't use S Note/S Pen and was a consumption user I'd be all over the Tab S. Both for its display and color. Who could resist Titanium Bronze? Hope you enjoy yours.
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Hey there. For once I'm not lusting after the next "shiny" thing on the horizon; for both my phone and tablet. I have a N10.1-14 that I love and its replaced my laptop 50% of the time. Next time I'm in Latin America I'm going to replace my 3G with a 4G version sold there that works on AT&T. All Samsung's newer high-end tablets are really the same with some s/w and h/w tweaks. With the exception of the Tab S' AMOLED display and finger print reader mostly the former. UI wise, with the exception of M-UX being omitted, Samsung brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro" level with the 4.4 update. If I didn't use S Note/S Pen and was a consumption user I'd be all over the Tab S. Both for its display and color. Who could resist Titanium Bronze? Hope you enjoy yours.
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I actually do not care for titanium bronze. Looks like dark gray to me. I wanted black but settled for white.
Barry. Your a GOD. you just killed another thread with your amazing insight. Kudos! ?
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I actually do not care for titanium bronze. Looks like dark gray to me. I wanted black but settled for white.
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I was just kidding. I thought the name was funny and more suitable for a Ford or Chevy. I'd probably get white too.
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I was just kidding. I thought the name was funny and more suitable for a Ford or Chevy. I'd probably get white too.
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Although with my white tablet and case I feel a little like Tony Curtis in The Great Race. Just call me Leslie.
Mr Dasher said:
For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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I'm longing mostly for root, so I can dump the bloatware and hopefully get OTG working.
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I'm longing mostly for root, so I can dump the bloatware and hopefully get OTG working.
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I came here looking for root options. Does the towel root from Geohot not work on the Tab S?
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I came here looking for root options. Does the towel root from Geohot not work on the Tab S?
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saw a post in the TR thread in gs5 forum..."Samsung galaxy tab pro 8.4 ,this method does not work, it reboots."
Cant wait to root this sucker myself.
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I guess you're right. For me those modified stock ROM'S never provided enough benefit to make me root my tablet to install. By custom ROM'S I mean ROM'S that include such things as tweaked kernels, ie, Cyanogen Mod.
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Up to individual taste. For me CM is just too bland a interface, I actually like TW and have "cooked" a few ROMs in the past. They are actually "custom" as modified from Samsung, so is CM, modified from Google is "custom"........but each to their own.
Devices running TW firmware do actually have "tweaked kernels", such as my Note 3 is running my own SkyHigh kernel built from official Samsung sources.
When I get my hands on a 8.4 LTE model, that's exactly what I'll be doing too !
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Up to individual taste. For me CM is just too bland a interface, I actually like TW and have "cooked" a few ROMs in the past. They are actually "custom" as modified from Samsung, so is CM, modified from Google is "custom"........but each to their own.
Devices running TW firmware do actually have "tweaked kernels", such as my Note 3 is running my own SkyHigh kernel built from official Samsung sources.
When I get my hands on a 8.4 LTE model, that's exactly what I'll be doing too !
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Its not a TW issue. I think Samsung devices with Snapdragon SoC have the fully custom ROMs. Devices with the Exynos CPU's usually don't.
When it comes to roms there is one thing I look for. Speed. Unless they go crazy with colors, theming or silly fonts I don't care much how it looks since I use a launcher anyway. Although I enjoy CM I miss the Samsung features such as split screen.
I would make Alliance rom for the tab s just need to afford one lol ?
Hey, i was just wondering why hasnt there been any stock android roms for the note 8 yet? I saw the s9 getting a resurrection remix. Is there any technical limitations thats holding back the development or do people just not care?
Because this phone has a pen ana that pen won't work without source code from Samfail
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Because this phone has a pen ana that pen won't work without source code from Samfail
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Stock Android - and especically things like RR actually have pretty solid stylus support. And there's plenty of apps that add features like pen-gestures and replicate the proprietary Samsung stuff.
The problem is likely more to do with the lack of treble support that the S9 has - which drastically simplifies the issue of dealing with proprietary firmware and API's.
And the fact that a large portion of Note 8 users have models with locked bootloaders, which prevent the usage of non-Samsung ROMS. There have been several threads detailing attempts at making AOSP or similar ROM's, but all have fallen silent without much to show in the way of progress:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/unofficial-lineageos-t3686026
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/bounty-aosp-roms-note8-t3686083
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/resurrection-remix-official-note-8-t3756351
Decoding and dealing with proprietary API's and firmware takes a lot of time and luck without sources which Samsung refuse to provide. And the pool of developers that seem interested in such a huge effort for the Note 8 seems to be shrinking.
Aaren11 said:
Stock Android - and especically things like RR actually have pretty solid stylus support. And there's plenty of apps that add features like pen-gestures and replicate the proprietary Samsung stuff.
The problem is likely more to do with the lack of treble support that the S9 has - which drastically simplifies the issue of dealing with proprietary firmware and API's.
And the fact that a large portion of Note 8 users have models with locked bootloaders, which prevent the usage of non-Samsung ROMS. There have been several threads detailing attempts at making AOSP or similar ROM's, but all have fallen silent without much to show in the way of progress:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/unofficial-lineageos-t3686026
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/bounty-aosp-roms-note8-t3686083
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/resurrection-remix-official-note-8-t3756351
Decoding and dealing with proprietary API's and firmware takes a lot of time and luck without sources which Samsung refuse to provide. And the pool of developers that seem interested in such a huge effort for the Note 8 seems to be shrinking.
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SO basically no hope for the future? this thing wouldve been a beast with an aosp rom. Thats really dissapointing i was looking forward to android p (
2000ftt said:
SO basically no hope for the future? this thing wouldve been a beast with an aosp rom. Thats really dissapointing i was looking forward to android p (
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I wouldn't say the situation is hopeless. Just pretty silent at the moment. Some of the groundwork seems to have been done particularly by @SaschaNes and the teams they're a part of. But they've been silent on actual progress of bootable builds for several months now. No clue if they're still working at it or not.
I would say AOSP or Lineage for the Note 8 is achievable it would just take reasons for developers to dedicate their time and effort. And currently, there aren't many for most. Few dev's actually have the device, and even fewer are interested in AOSP for it. Perhaps a bounty might lure one or two - but it would have to be sizeable, and considering the amount of people that seem to have bought this device for the Samsung features - that's going to be hard to organize.
considering the amount of people that seem to have bought this device for the Samsung features - that's going to be hard to organize.
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This, is the reason the note line, for a while now, has not had the development other Samsung phones have. Add to that , snapdragon and its lockdown , makes it difficult to see the note series as a custom powerhouse.
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Which is a shame, considering the legacy of the Note 3,4 and 5 which continue to have AOSP roms built for them to this day - which has drastically extended the lifespan beyond Samsungs woeful EOL. Sadly devs simply don't seem to have the motivation or time to deal with jumping through the increasingly convoluted hoops constantly being errected by google and OEMs.
Because the note 8 is so locked down
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
Useless on a Note !
Enviado desde mi SM-N950F mediante Tapatalk
abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
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By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
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I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
I'm just adding my sentiment. If you want stock Android, get a Pixel device or Motorola or Nokia or almost anything else. You buy a Samsung device for the features they add. If you don't like or use those features, then don't buy something for $1,000 just to essentially cripple it afterwards.
abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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Lineage 15.1 was released yesterday for the note 8, it is in alpha stage though.
Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
sandeepkumar0153 said:
I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
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Couldn't agree more on this. I bought my note 8 after i have used a note 8 port rom on my j7 2016.
And honestly i will prefer the note this way and i haven't even rooted yet. I miss viper4android so much but atleast we have Dolby atmos in N8.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Exactly, you buy a note device for what i gives not what you can mod it into using a custom rom. Root and xposed is an other thing, but custom rom, that too an AOSP ? Completely dumb people out there.
I think it is about choice, not stupidity, like it's said a couple of times here.
Let people do what they want with their phone, like you do.
The thing is i am a university student and thought that i would use the pen.. turned out i didn't use it nor did i use any of the other features..
Second i am not from the US so pixel is not an option unless i would pay around 100 to 200 extra dollar to get it without a warranty.. this goes to the oneplus..
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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You do know that once you install a custom OS on the Note. The camera quality goes down. As custom OSes do not have the same camera optimisation software as the Samsung Stock OS.
I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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Of course yo would, that is the point, once you install a stock android,, the camera will no longer be driven by the samsung software, exactly what iceepyon told you, the samsung hardware is specifically constructed to work efficiently with samsung firmwares
Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
People are not "dumb or stupid" if they're looking for customization options on XDA. They're maybe "wrong" in some cases. Just tell them why.
To answer your question:
These days there are too many flagships and midrange phones out there. Also The oems use different hardwares and barely release their source codes and drivers. Plus, stock roms are way more feature rich and fluid than before. For all these reasons the development of vanilla based roms is limited and less reasonable for most phones. Except pixel phones and Android one phones. Even there, all different roms are lineage-based and basically the same, with same features and same bugs! But different visuall traits!
There is a Lineage os for note 8.0 but in very early stages. About other custom roms (stock based), they do a great job in terms of features and removing so called bloatwares, but personally I recommend you staying on stock because unlike few years ago, stock roms get you better performance, features, battery life, etc. I'm currently using pixel 2 and note 8 and trust me, you get bored by plain android!
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Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
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Now I'm going to watch Taylor Swift music videos and read the comments, when I get home.
Do I have your attention now?
Good.
Hi guys. We were discussing on our A6 group that the regular 7870 A6 gets very little love.
Mainly because it's not a very good phone. But that's why it needs more love than its getting, so that the experience of owning it doesn't suck as much xD
Well, I happened to mention that I love my S8 ROM for the J6 because it is fully featured. Even with Pie released and even with 64bit vendor, I always return to my S8+ ROM. I just love it so much.
So, I offered the opportunity to port it to the A6.
Now, there are a couple of things I need to make clear before actually doing this.
As of now, porting ROMs in Pie is a bit difficult because you can't deodex the whole firmware properly, that is why I have not really done any Pie porting.
This port would be Oreo!
Deodexing Oreo has 0 problems and I can easily try to fix problems that happen due to pop up.
So, what would be the benefits?
Imagine being able to use edge screen! Infinity wallpapers! Smart select, bixby vision, scroll capture!
Sure, you don't have the latest OS, but I think having Oreo is good enough
That being said, I do need some active testers. I don't own an A6 so porting will require somebody with the device to test.
If you are interested, leave your comment here and I will contact you when possible to try to make this a reality.
I'll leave you guys with some captures to see if it motivates you a little
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You got a Private message sir. I am willing to be a tester.
ShaDisNX255 said:
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Good.
Hi guys. We were discussing on our A6 group that the regular 7870 A6 gets very little love.
Mainly because it's not a very good phone.
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A6 a little bit better because exynos base, but the siblings (A6+) far more worse because snapdragon base :silly: .
my target port very limited..only A8star, A9 2018. i have some thought also to port from s8/s9/note8/note9, but all those series must be come from china open/hongkong region (snapdragon) which could lead me to getting more problems.
after seeing that you successful porting from S8 oreo maybe i also will try from s8 hongkong region
currently i also running A9 2018 port and all bugs has been solved (from released version in here).
the feature almost same from your port but i don't have edge lighting
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A6 a little bit better because exynos base, but the siblings (A6+) far more worse because snapdragon base :silly: .
my target port very limited..only A8star, A9 2018. i have some thought also to port from s8/s9/note8/note9, but all those series must be come from china open/hongkong region (snapdragon) which could lead me to getting more problems.
after seeing that you successful porting from S8 oreo maybe i also will try from s8 hongkong region
currently i also running A9 2018 port and all bugs has been solved (from released version in here).
the feature almost same from your port but i don't have edge lighting
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With a full deodex, you can port no matter the SoC. I've ported both SD and Exynos to Mediatek Sammy phone. I think in general, Samsung likes to use very general lib stuff
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With a full deodex, you can port no matter the SoC. I've ported both SD and Exynos to Mediatek Sammy phone. I think in general, Samsung likes to use very general lib stuff
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i don't think so...even in kernel, how it load stuffs, fstab, etc,, SD and exynos is different. maybe if to mediatek it will work as you said, but if from exy to SD or vice versa it will not work.
regarding lib probably until oreo, starting on pie seems so many changes
Will AOD work? If so I would glad to return to Oreo
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I want to be a Tester send me a Private Message with link
Hello guys,I would like to know if the Rom is suitable for the Samsung Sm-A600FN
Complete noob
Could I flash it like stock firmware? And could I obtain camera 2 api? I have A6+ sm-a605fn, it's worth nothing to me if I can't get camera 2 api, so I am more than willing to try, except that I"m a noob and have no clue what deodex is.
Happy to help
Would it be suitable for the SM-A600T1? If so I would be more than willing to aid you in your development and test it for you.
So just bought a galaxy tab a8 10.5 inch.
This is the first model of Samsung Galaxy phone or tablet that doesn't have the option to activate or setup.
Is it possible to install it somehow?
Very disappointing.... Even their most expensive tabs this is the case as well?
Just discovered the same. There appears to have been a secure folder on earlier models with previous renditions of Android, but not my recent June 2023 A8 purchase running Android 13 /One UI 5.
Bit annoyed since Samsung's community help pages shows how to enable it, but it no longer applies.
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Just discovered the same. There appears to have been a secure folder on earlier models with previous renditions of Android, but not my recent June 2023 A8 purchase running Android 13 /One UI 5.
Bit annoyed since Samsung's community help pages shows how to enable it, but it no longer applies.
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I've come to learn it's because this tab has One UI Core, not One UI and with Core features like this are left out
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I've come to learn it's because this tab has One UI Core, not One UI and with Core festures like this are left out
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Yeah, probably because Samsung feels this tablet just doesn't have the resources to run the full version. I know the tablet was considered "laggy" with earlier versions. People should realize that Tab As are "economy" versions and not expect all the features they'd get with a Tab S. It always amuses me when some users try to make "gaming" tablets out of Tab As. And then complain they are "laggy".