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Hello. I bought a galaxy note on 28th november. After only 2 weeks of absolutely normal and careful use, my screen is scratched and broken. Ok, it is a small crack, but it is not good.
It never fell and it never hit anything. After only 2 days, i noticed some scratchs and some other came in the days after. Then, the part of the screen between the upper edge and the speaker broke in two, with a crack (small, 5mm but still a crack) going from the edge to the speaker. I can't post a photo as i sent it back to samsung for repairs (it had also display issues). Do you know a reason for it? It should be gorilla glass, and i only kept it in my pockets without anything inside apart the smartphone. Do you think samsung will repair it since it happened during normal use after ONLY 2 weeks? I'm really annoyed and disappointed.
Anyone experiencing glass resistance issues?
Thanks
Call samsung and send it in they will fix it..
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Yes, i did it and i'm waiting, and i also adressed the lines issue and the green/banded screen, but i am in italy and i'm not sure if it is covered by warranty, it should: they can say i broke it.
The Corning Gorilla Glass was one reason I went with the SGS2.
The other reason was fear of provoking the wrath of God for having such a sensationally beautiful device (the Note). It's an awesome device, really.
But God smote those who worshiped a golden calf, too.
lol Sorry, I'm not really a religious fanatic. But yeah, sucks about your screen. Hope Sammy fixes that one up for you.
Welcome Nickelsilver and please don't take this personally and in NO way I'm defending Samsung or the Note but I have to say the neither scratches or dents/cracks come by their own.
They just don't happen/appear magically by themselves on the phone's screen/body. Maybe someone is messing with you Note without you knowing it?
E.g: I have 1mm small and barely noticeable scratch on the top left corner which I suspect it came from the ONLY 1 time my Note slipped from the passenger's seat and fell in the gap between the passenger's door/seat.
I went through 3 screens on my dell streak. Now that I have the note which is even bigger I was so cautious I treated it like a delicate fragile little flower. Needless to say after 2 weeks I noticed what appeared to be a scratch going up from the bottom middle halfway up. Turns out this is not a magical scratch that sprang out of nowhere but an actual crack on the outer glass screen. I have never dropped it but perhaps it was somehow flexed.
No warranty of course. I have ordered the glass itself from overseas and when it gets here in a month I suppose I will try replacing that piece individually as its only the outer glass that seems cracked. Hopefully they do not glue the screens together like they did in the streak ><
Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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To OP: im sorry to hear that....hope samsung can fix it for you quick.
Ps. Dont listen and worry about this guy...he thinks only his opinions are important and others experiences are just JUNKS and BORING! Not sure why he would even bother to reply, if they really bores him that much. Maybe he really thinks that he BOOFY the witch hunter or something
Plus.. He forgot that he has also once posted a question regarding to his screen problem too here on the forum.
Gorilla glass is bull****. I had dell 5 streak, and I changed the screen more than 5 times. Little drop will result in screen loss. Do not depend on gorilla glass.
My Samsung Galaxy Note are broke
Yesterday I was knocked out of the hands under my 40 days old Samsung Galaxy Note, the cover glass is cracked along its entire length as a spider's web, while the LCD screen is not damaged, that still works, receiving the touch command. The solution I found in the orders of the new protective glass over eBay. Maybe that was too much angry because it happened to me, but NOTE is too amazing, and I somehow survive.. I'll let it be when we come new safety glass
I do not think this is a witch hunt. More of an informative thread on one weakness to an otherwise amazing device. It may be that until an indestructive clear glass is created that we will continually face this on any large phone. Anything this large will flex easily and likely crack. One thing Samsung definately did right was not glue the glass to the LCD behind it. I put a clear screen cover over mine and you cant even see the crack anymore. Were this a dell streak you would have half of your screen blacked out.
This is definitely the best mobile device out there in my opinion, people should just be extremely cautious with where they carry it. Mine most likely cracked in my pocket from slight flexing.
The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
If the glass is breaking frequently on the notes,then I wonder if they really have Gorilla glass.
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The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
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Not proof.
Croak said:
Not proof.
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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That demonstration glass at the beginning of the video is about 3 times thicker than what Samsung uses on the Note/Galaxy S2/Galaxy S SAMOLED panels. And it's quite a bit smaller, height/width wise (it's about iPhone 4 sized).
Thickness makes a significant difference in flexibility and shatter resistance. Which is off on a tangent, because the main reason Samsung and others uses GG and similar techniques is not for shatter resistance.
It's almost entirely for the combination of higher scratch resistance vs metals (all bets are off with sand particles) and a better tactile feel (it's smoother) than non-treated glass.
Sure it may not be as thick on the note but you are never going to flex the phone anywhere as much as that demonstration.
My point is that if it is gorilla glass,it shouldn't be that easy to crack the screen given the abuse that it is supposed to be able to take.
All these? Gorilla Glass
And all these? Gorilla Glass
How about all these? Gorilla Glass
Or maybe all these? Gorilla Glass
It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
captainhakan said:
It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
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The weight of the note will count against it during falls compared to say a very light phone like the SG2.Impact is going to be much harder if they both fell from the same height especially given te size of the notes screen.
Until they can make the note lighter,users will just have to be more careful not to drop it.Gorilla glass is not unbreakable.
I get my note tomorrow. Now I'm all paranoid
I finally got my hands on a demo unit of the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 yesterday at the T-Mobile Store near the airport and was amazed of how the device felt in the hand. A lot superior than Apple's iPhone 6 Plus. My eyes couldn't ignore the detail of 5.7" display and all round metal frame. Very refined look. Samsung has come a long way; now only if they could consolidate themselves and keep up a job well done.
What are your thoughts on the Note 4's Build Quality compared to previous Note Series Models?
Never had the previous notes before, but I love the new design. Looks and feels very premium. The metal sides feel great. Only thing I don't like is the gap on the right, I pretty much have to blow dust out quite often. And I have a couple of small scratches at the edge of the metal band, the unpainted part. Other than that one of the best build quality compared to other phones, and I have had quite a few of them.
The built quality is 10/10 on the Note 4. All three note devices used plastic. Apple however remains to still have the best aluminum built quality
I would like to know does anyone have problem with the aluminium edges?
I am hearing that they are getting scratched easily so i wanna know does anyone have similar problem?
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I would like to know does anyone have problem with the aluminium edges?
I am hearing that they are getting scratched easily so i wanna know does anyone have similar problem?
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The only thing getting scratched when handling my phone is my finger that props up the phone from underneath
I did see the iphone 6/6+ in the ATT store a couple of days ago and I have to admit it looks and feels really good. The Note 4 and iphone 6/6+ bit have excellent build quality. That bending crap is blown way out of proportion.
It would have been nice if Samsung went with a different look for the back cover though, maybe something like the One Plus One's Sandstone backcover. But I don't mind it honestly. Hopefully we get some nice third party back covers soon.
Apart from the famous gap at the top and left hand side of the phone the phone feels solid. Love it, I just put a case on it to hide the gap and also coz im scared of it getting scratched.
Where are the potential areas to be scratched. i don't see aluminum anywhere on the Note 4; It's mainly metal with the surprising observation that the metal rim is painted.
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Apart from the famous gap at the top and left hand side of the phone the phone feels solid. Love it, I just put a case on it to hide the gap and also coz im scared of it getting scratched.
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Mine does not have a visible gap. Nor am I able to insert the edge of a business card.
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Where are the potential areas to be scratched. i don't see aluminum anywhere on the Note 4; It's mainly metal with the surprising observation that the metal rim is painted.
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You don't see aluminium, but it's mainly metal...? Erm...
The bits people are saying scratch easily are the un-painted chamfered metal edges - which are aluminium - they do scratch quite easily, but the scratches are always hairline and as the edge is very small, so is the scratch.
Oh, and on closer inspection, yes, I have a gap - a teeny tiny gap that's so small as not to be visible or worrisome. I can barely get the edge of a post-it note in there, definitely not a business card.
It's a beautiful phone, without a doubt the best made phone Samsung have come out with.
The parts which are exposed can be covered with InvisibleShield Skin to prevent the scratches from rising. Do note however, this may make you feel awkward in the public. On the brighter note, at least you have a better chance of selling a device in mint condition. Cheers
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You don't see aluminium, but it's mainly metal...? Erm...
The bit's people are saying scratch easily are the un-painted chamfered metal edges - which are aluminium - they do scratch quite easily, but the scratches are always hairline and as the edge is very small, so is the scratch.
Oh, and on closer inspection, yes, I have a gap - a teeny tiny gap that's so small as not to be visible or worrisome. I can barely get the edge of a post-it note in there, definitely not a business card.
It's a beautiful phone, without a doubt the best made phone Samsung have come out with.
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What are your thoughts on the Note 4's Build Quality compared to previous Note Series Models?
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I got mine about an hour ago, it's white. It looks more refined than my Note 3 and feels more substantial. Is it "OMG! It's night and day!," no. I think it'll be more impressive to people who haven't owned previous Samsung products than those of us that have evolved with them. Even thought both were "plasticky" I think the Note 2>Note 3 evolution introduced a more serious look to the Note's than Note 3>Note 4. Don't misunderstand, I'm very happy with the design/build improvements in the Note 4 they just aren't life altering. I will say this, the tolerances it's built to are impressive. The plastic filler in between the metal trim is laser perfect. As is how tightly the back cover fits flush to the trim. HTC had issues pulling the same thing off.
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Mine does have a gap but its not big enough to really put a peice of paper in. I guess I only noticed it because I was looking for it.
Sometime with gaps, sometime not. I handed on about 4pcs of Note 4 and they have no gaps. Sony Z3 often come with gaps. Note 4 is stronger ( to bend ) than Z3.
Coming from an S4 its a marked improvement. I actually like the build quality better than the LG G3. Maybe it just fits in my hand better.
The gap seems more prominent on the Korean models, especially since initial reports of gap-gate originated from there. The T-Mobile Note 4 is assembled in Vietnam; I'm not sure how much leverage assembly workers there have in respect to minding the gap. Bear in mind the AT&T variant (with Snapdragon 805) is assembled in Korea.
Coming from note 2 it's a substantial improvement.
My note 4 is top notch. No gap anywhere.
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My note 4 is top notch. No gap anywhere.
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The gap on the Note 4 I've handled was the same as the ones found in the s4 and s5; no big deal.
People are blowing this way out of proportion. This was not a problem with the s4 or the s5, it's not a problem with the note 4.
One word... Excellent.
I do have a gapgate style gap at the top end of the glass, it's very small but a few bits of crud have got in there already.. I'm not happy about it but I'm also not going to get fussed over it as I was aware of the issue over a week ago. The other three sides of the glass are flush. The rest of the build quality is perfect, everything is so flush and the way the back fits around the curved metal bezel is just spot on. It's the first time I've felt Samsungs 'leather' back and I really like it, strangely soft to the touch.
I really wish they'd add lens covers to the cameras on these devices but that's a personal preference born out of the Sony Ericsson K series of phones.
So the only reason why I have not pre-ordered, is the potential screen self cracking.
I have used an iPhone 4s for three years before I switched to Moto X. Even though both sides were glass (with aluminum side) that phone was sturdy and really well build. I used a plastic thin case that provides very minimal bulk/protection.
I've dropped it from my lap exiting my car and just falling off my desk. It has hit cement, road, or even tiles. Luckly it never hit face first. The metal band got dinged of and some chips on the edges. The glass however is flawless (except a scratch from keys).
Can anyone provide a honest comparison of the Z3 Compact with a iPhone 4s? Also even with this inconsistent "self cracking" screen, do you guys still recommend me getting it?
We don't really know how widespread the screen-cracking issue is, but I would say the overwhelming majority of people have had no problems with it, so I'm not terribly worried.
In terms of build quality, I don't have an iPhone to compare with, but my Z3c at least feels fantastic. There's no give on any components, nothing loose, everything's flush, no gaps between glass and edges.
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We don't really know how widespread the screen-cracking issue is, but I would say the overwhelming majority of people have had no problems with it, so I'm not terribly worried.
In terms of build quality, I don't have an iPhone to compare with, but my Z3c at least feels fantastic. There's no give on any components, nothing loose, everything's flush, no gaps between glass and edges.
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I should also state that, I am fully aware a dual sided glass phone is extremely fragile when dropped. I just want to hear about peoples opinions of its build quality.
Also one question, I have sat (lightly) on my phone in my back pocket on a office cushioned chair or car seat and nothings ever happened (iphone 4s and moto x). Would the z3 compact be any different? (more prone to breaking?)
I can't answer that. It feels solid, but I'm not going to go out of my way to sit on, bend and twist it to see if it'll break. I keep mine in my front pocket.
It doesn't feel remotely flimsy, if that helps.
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In terms of build quality, I don't have an iPhone to compare with, but my Z3c at least feels fantastic. There's no give on any components, nothing loose, everything's flush, no gaps between glass and edges.
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Personally I would have preferred if the finish was a bit less flush (edge to glass and glass to camera) because without a case there is no lay-on-the-table protection whatsoever against scratches, the camera glass and the sides are at exactly the same level.
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Personally I would have preferred if the finish was a bit less flush (edge to glass and glass to camera) because without a case there is no lay-on-the-table protection whatsoever against scratches, the camera glass and the sides are at exactly the same level.
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I agree! Thats why when I had my iPhone 4s, i normally had a case on it. Otherwise caseless, I kept it in my pocket or on some notebook/paper/cloth. Im feeling more comfortable about buying the phone now!
I upgraded to the Z3c from the iPhone 4S. The 4S took tens of drops varying from 2 feet off a bed onto carpet and 4 feet onto concrete. Only two years later did it finally crack the glass in the corner when dropped on concrete. I owned my Z3c for a week before it slid out of my pocket when sitting down. Falling 1 foot onto laminate tile and cracking horizontally across the back.
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I upgraded to the Z3c from the iPhone 4S. The 4S took tens of drops varying from 2 feet off a bed onto carpet and 4 feet onto concrete. Only two years later did it finally crack the glass in the corner when dropped on concrete. I owned my Z3c for a week before it slid out of my pocket when sitting down. Falling 1 foot onto laminate tile and cracking horizontally across the back.
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:crying::crying::crying:
no case?
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Not yet :'( Was waiting for a nice bumper to come out. Never did I expect it to break so easily.
I have looked at and read about the Z3 C and it has its excellent points( camera etc).
Durability is not one of them, glass on back scratches easily but also is not very flexible, so can crack from flexing as well as impacts IMO.
Also , glass on back is not usually Gorilla or Dragontrail.
To make a Z3C durable, tempered glass screens front and back are needed, plus a case, preferably with rigidity to prevent flex and some shock absorbing later.
Or the,Rhino bumper might work, we will see.
Just my honest opinion.
Meh, Z3c camera's overrated IMO.
But the phone seems as solid as every other phone I've ever had. However, the materials seem a bit less lower quality than the 4s -- plastic sides, for example, and a lot of ports, buttons, flaps etc. which tends to make things feels a little less refined than the more minimalist iPhone. But at the end of the day it's just a functional object, not a design icon to be put on a pedestal.
Having heard the stories of cracking glass on the Z3c, however, I'm gonna be a little more careful with this phone than any of my previous phones (including the Nexus 4, another double-glass phone). But remember the iPhone 4 also had its own glass-cracking problems when launched.
Coming from an Iphone, I can see how you would think
the Z3 Camera overrated.
But I am thinking of Z3 C versus Alpha and took quick
Photos in Mall recently with a new Z3C at Sony Store,
and an Alpha and S5 at.AT&T nearby, same Mall.
Details and sharpness, the Z3C was good in Super Auto,
and slightly above Alpha and S5 in 20.7mp mods.
Just judging for sharpness , detail, and no tweaking just about 4 or 5 shots each one.
Friend's Note 4 was ahead of all , easy to see this.
But the Z3 was very very good, I was surprised,after reading complaints, lol.
This Z3C had the very quiet Speakers, but good,Camera.
IMO the quality control needs to be higher and Software
Optimised for Carriers on 4G to 3G data, texts etc.
messaging, calls....
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Meh, Z3c camera's overrated IMO.
But the phone seems as solid as every other phone I've ever had. However, the materials seem a bit less lower quality than the 4s -- plastic sides, for example, and a lot of ports, buttons, flaps etc. which tends to make things feels a little less refined than the more minimalist iPhone.
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I couldn't agree more with that. I don't have owned a iPhone 4 but a friend of mine have a 4S and it fell already almost dozen times... Soles scratches but no crack at all, it's impressive considering all other iPhone cracked.
But the only that I regret on the Z3c is that it doesn't have the aluminium finish like his old brother and the volume button curved line Z Ultra. Maybe z4 ? Who knows... :sly:
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Hi,
I read few threads about build quality of the Samsung Note 4 but mostly I fount speculations and opinions not supported with facts. I am mechanical engineer and I like to think that I know few thinks about processes that are being used in modern industry.
I would like to focus on metal finish which was a decision maker to upgrade from Note 3.
When I first received my new Note 4, first think I did was not turning it on, but inspecting quality of the new body. After few minutes I already knew that there will be problems. I wasn't mistaken...
Lets sort one think up, because there was a big discussion about it in previous threads. Note 4 is not made out of metal. Main body of the smartphone is made purely out of plastic. To better understand it, remove back cover and remove S-pen. This Grayish plastic you see everywhere is actually the main frame of the smartphone. Visible metal sides of the phone as well, are plastic. Metal finish is only metallic coating. There are few processes that allow to cover plastic with metal and most generally it is called metallization. You may ask - so what? Important that it is looking and feeling good... I would completely agree with you if not for the fact that coating is ridiculously thin. I am very careful with my Note 4, but I don't use any covers and additional protection for device. After only few months after using my smartphone I saw first negative signs such as flaking off black metallic paint where the USB receptacle is. Once it stars it gets only worse. later on you have to be even more careful for flaking will continue even when you scratch it lightly with the nail. I would like to point as well, that under this black metallic paint there is plastic. If you expected metal you will be disappointed. Actual silver chamfers are a little bit thicker - around 0,2+-0,05mm. I am not a fan of Iphone but I appreciate real metal body. It bothers me when I see price of the device. I would expect to see real premium device instead of constant covering up with better materials plastic "Samsung madness". Don't think than I am a Samsung hater, because its completely opposite. I didn't change brand since Samsung Galaxy S, and I had all smartphones from Note series.
After Note 3 I'm disappointed by note 4. At least N3 wasn't pretending anything. Not only from build quality newest note is not a good successor of good old note 3 but from software point of view as well but that is topic for other thread.
I covered only one aspect of poor quality of the phone. There are more but to reduce the length of the post I wont describe them. I will mention only at the end that if you are looking for robust made phone this is not what you should look for. I have a feeling that device is made like this to look like **** after warranty period ends.
Peace
Rbn
The Note 4 is metal, here is a metal test of the frame:
https://youtu.be/d-7Yw_XXviI
Go spew your nonsense somewhere else.
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The black sides of my Note 4 are fine, no flacking, the USB and area surrounding it are also still fine. I have had my Note 4 since launch (got it 2days early). Used it for 8months with no cover, only recently put a cover as I wanted it to fee thicker and more substantial in hand and to protect it as I do drop it a lot.
Is he touching on the metallic coated chamfer or the actual side of the phone?
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The Note 4 is metal, here is a metal test of the frame:
Go spew your nonsense somewhere else.
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The black sides of my Note 4 are fine, no flacking, the USB and area surrounding it are also still fine. I have had my Note 4 since launch (got it 2days early). Used it for 8months with no cover, only recently put a cover as I wanted it to fee thicker and more substantial in hand and to protect it as I do drop it a lot.
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Are you serious with this youtube clip, or it is a joke? I am not sure... He is touching 3cm apart of each other on metallic chamfer which I already said is metallic (if you would read carefully) thickens of the metal he check resistance of i approximately 0,2mm as I as well said before. if he would touch on left and right side there would be no conduction because chamfer are separated in exactly 4 individual points.
Your comment has no sens what so ever apart of some strange attitude.
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Is he touching on the metallic coated chamfer or the actual side of the phone?
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He touched both, 1st the chamfered side and then the side.
He did the video in response to another person who was claiming the Note 4 isn't metal, when in actual fact it is.
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He touched both, 1st the chamfered side and then the side.
He did the video in response to another person who was claiming the Note 4 isn't metal, when in actual fact it is.
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I see words them self do not convince you so pictures will have to (self made).
Few words of commentary if you do not understand. picture ***23 show where the coating ends (probably for antenna connection reasons).
Picture ***43 shows that in fact there is a conductivity, therefore metallic surface (like on youtube video you posted)
On picture ***53 you can clearly see that there is infinite resistance = no metallic connection
If you still do not believe on the picture ***22 you can see that housing is in fact non conductive = non metallic
Stop your nonsense argument please.
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I see words them self do not convince you so pictures will have to (self made).
Few words of commentary if you do not understand. picture ***23 show where the coating ends (probably for antenna connection reasons).
Picture ***43 shows that in fact there is a conductivity, therefore metallic surface (like on youtube video you posted)
On picture ***53 you can clearly see that there is infinite resistance = no metallic connection
If you still do not believe on the picture ***22 you can see that housing is in fact non conductive = non metallic
Stop your nonsense argument please.
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All you have proved is that there are parts of the frame that are not metal e.g. the USB area, where the antennas are and may I add where the 3.5mm jack is, this is party to be expected as even with my iPad these areas in particular will have some sort of plastic within.
The frame is mostly metal. Its winter down here and the frame gets icy cold to the touch vs. the back cover plastic and front glass.
You haven't really made any point, the Note 4 at the end of the day is a well built premium phone, in my experience, Samsung have ensured the areas that shouldn't be metal aren't you can actually see them e.g. around USB port is a tiny bump, same with where the antennas are.
People are not satisfied with anything nowadays...
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People are not satisfied with anything nowadays...
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Indeed.
I can't quite believe you guys are fighting over a mostly plastic phone. I agree with the first poster and what he has posted makes sense. I've also taken my note 4 apart and you can clearly tell it is mostly plastic with the exception being the coated chamfer which is coated with metal then painted and polished, as well as the screws. Ignoring the logic board which contains many elements your left with the screen and glass covering. To be short the phone is mostly plastic and not mostly metal like the users are trying to argue.
Plastic is very inefficient at blocking radio signals, I'm happy.
If it was all metal, someone would say that it is very heavy and signal is poor. If it was glass, people would say it is fragile and a fingerprint magnet. I believe our phone is an ideal blend of premium and other features. I personally love the faux leather back, it is much more robust than a real leathet or gloss plastic.
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If it was all metal, someone would say that it is very heavy and signal is poor. If it was glass, people would say it is fragile and a fingerprint magnet. I believe our phone is an ideal blend of premium and other features. I personally love the faux leather back, it is much more robust than a real leathet or gloss plastic.
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Exactly. This phone is very well built and blend of materials very well thought-out.
The faux leather is brilliant, mine still looks as good as new since launch, while many LG G4 Leather Back owners already have wear and tear within weeks of owning the phone.
While I do think that this is very well designed phone, op is right in his claim that there's not a lot of metal for someone who expected at least outer frame to be aluminum. He is right that under black metallic Paint is only white plastic.
Actually it is amazing how well they have managed to fuse aluminum chamfer, and only that (this is best visible when taking pen out and looking at the cross section). The supposed antenna breaks, on top and bottom, are purely for decoration, and to fool the users into thinking that sections are solid metal and evocative of iPhone of yesteryear that had those cutouts for a reason.
Altogether, there's probably not much more than 5 grams of aluminum on the whole frame. If even that much?
Im just glad that the paint finish on this phone is much more durable than s4 and s5, where even sweat would cause peeling of the fake chrome coating,provided you don't drop phone (it is true that once metallic paints start peeling on certain section, the process accelerates.
All that said, I do agree with polo_i780 last post absolutely.
Note 4 ?
To the op, are you sure your note 4 is not a fake? I mean no disrespect just that mine has been dropped and such without a case, has lots of scratches all around and it doesn't flake as you say. I just tried scratching it with my nails and.... nothing.
If it does indeed have an insanely thin coating then no way would the frame get icy cold as the other poster said (mine does this).
My note 3 never felt like this. Also you're wrong the note 3 did pretend to be something. A leather notebook with the rear cover. But I actually preferred that cover instead of this one lol.
Either way no company is going to please everyone.
I kind of agree with the original poster. There's something "missing" in build quality on the N4, it just doesn't feel as premium as the metal flagships or even the S6. I think it's almost a half and half like Samsung were half way through redesigning their handsets the N4 is the result. I'm not saying it feels cheap or it isn't a nice design, I just don't think it feels like a full premium design.
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Disagree. This phone is designed very well. I don't care for metal.
The OP's analysis perfectly describes the very well known problem of the N4's "metal" sides getting very scratched up due solely to the use of certain cases. If you've just recently picked up an N4, search the forum for "scratched metal" and you'll see no shortage of threads where the issue is mentioned (my search for topics with those terms from the main page of the N4 forum yielded 84 results).
@Rubenqben if the edges have become annoyingly scratched, there's a DIY fix that also protects the edges from future damage involving metal polish. Very detailed instructions w/ pics can be found via search, IIRC there have been a few guides in the "General" subforum. I've done this to my device that's now about 7 months old and the edges are even shinier than they were before removing the plastic from the phone (it should be noted that using metal polish on the edges lightens the metal color a few "shades", likely dependent on the specific product that you use... not in a bad way IMO, I actually think that mine looks better with the "Blue Magic Metal Polish Cream" from Amazon).
Now should it be necessary to use potentially damaging chemicals on a $$$ phone so that the edges don't get scratched up by a protective case?
I'm curious what other build quality issues you've discovered that were alluded to in the OP? I've been happy with my N4 overall, but I've definitely encountered some issues that seem like they can only be traced back to hardware design flaws... I'm no engineer though so I'm interested in your other findings :good:
My note 4 is fine its metal and the paint doesnt chip so did you buy a knock off phone.
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the op's analysis perfectly describes the very well known problem of the n4's "metal" sides getting very scratched up due solely to the use of certain cases. If you've just recently picked up an n4, search the forum for "scratched metal" and you'll see no shortage of threads where the issue is mentioned (my search for topics with those terms from the main page of the n4 forum yielded 84 results).
@rubenqben if the edges have become annoyingly scratched, there's a diy fix that also protects the edges from future damage involving metal polish. Very detailed instructions w/ pics can be found via search, iirc there have been a few guides in the "general" subforum.
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I couldn't agree more. I had a Note 3 and with the exact care and usage it was perfectly fine whereas my Note 4 has scratches on the metal sides! Yes the metal sides looks better but they also loves to be scratched, without even trying to, just by changing covers and cases! Even the Samsung Protective cover wasn't able to prevent the scratches! With S6 Samsung has hardened/improved the metal so hopefully Note 5 will not have any metal issues like Note 4. Btw, can you share the exact guide you tested and confirmed it works? Thank you!
Here's a very nice metal bumpercase I've bought at AliExpress. It looks outstanding, offers a decent protection level and the manucaturing quality is on a very high level. Signal quality is perfect like the manufacturer promises. The case is available in serveral color, black, gold, blue, etc. It is offered for a very reasonable price around 15€.
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Especially for you. Added two pictures showing my device with one of your custom AOD backgrounds.
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Here's a very nice metal bumpercase I've bought at AliExpress. It looks outstanding, offers a decent protection level and the manucaturing quality is on a very high level. Signal quality is perfect like the manufacturer promises. The case is available in serveral color, black, gold, blue, etc. It is offered for a very reasonable price around 15€.
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Do you have pics of your phone in the case rather than marketing images?
just wanna make sure your not advertising for them
The last time i used a Luphie case (similar to this) was on my Note 4 and it was terrible.
Looked great on my note 4!
but
1. effected signal badly
2. poor build quality (the lock mechanism was loose and only got looser as time went on)
3. the back glass cracked extremely easily, i didnt even drop it one day i took it out my pocket and it was cracked.
once it cracked it destroyed the only thing it had going for it (the looks) was dissapointed!
if they have fixed all these issues then it looks pretty nice
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Do you have pics of your phone in the case rather than marketing images?
just wanna make sure your not advertising for them
The last time i used a Luphie case (similar to this) was on my Note 4 and it was terrible.
Looked great on my note 4!
but
1. effected signal badly
2. poor build quality (the lock mechanism was loose and only got looser as time went on)
3. the back glass cracked extremely easily, i didnt even drop it one day i took it out my pocket and it was cracked.
once it cracked it destroyed the only thing it had going for it (the looks) was dissapointed!
if they have fixed all these issues then it looks pretty nice
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Sure i could take a picture of my phone within it. If you check my profile in the meantime you'll see that i'm not known for advertising here on XDA
And well, i've not posted a link to any special seller.
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Sure i could take a picture of my phone within it. If you check my profile in the meantime you'll see that i'm not known for advertising here on XDA
And well, i've not posted a link to any special seller.
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Sweet i might be interested in getting one too then if i can find one that inst from China, they look great
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Sweet i might be interested in getting one too then if i can find one that inst from China, they look great
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Added two pictures
And reception is great, no remarkable signal loss.
The case needed two weeks from china to germany. There are several sellers @ AliExpress selling it.
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And reception is great, no remarkable signal loss.
The case needed two weeks from china to germany. There are several sellers @ AliExpress selling it.
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Thanks I may order one if I can part with the Alcantara for a little while!
Glad your enjoying the Custom AODS, looks great! :good:
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Sure i could take a picture of my phone within it. If you check my profile in the meantime you'll see that i'm not known for advertising here on XDA
And well, i've not posted a link to any special seller.
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I like the way it looks but does it have the text (top and bottom) on the back like the pictures?
"Wireless Signal..."
"0.8MM Tempered..."
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I like the way it looks but does it have the text (top and bottom) on the back like the pictures?
"Wireless Signal..."
"0.8MM Tempered..."
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Yes, just have a look to the last two pictures, that is my Note 8.
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Yes, just have a look to the last two pictures, that is my Note 8.
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I had started my reply before you had posted the pictures. When the phone is face down, does it sit on the phones screen or does the bumper case have a lip?
Thanks for adding those pics.
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I had started my reply before you had posted the pictures. When the phone is face down, does it sit on the phones screen or does the bumper case have a lip?
Thanks for adding those pics.
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It has a lip, something like 0.5 mm. Maybe a little less.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Samsun...tal-Bumper-Hard-Back-Case-Cover-/152587478884
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Samsun...tal-Bumper-Hard-Back-Case-Cover-/152587478884
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On AliExpress
The Ebay seller ships from china too, i think.
How tight fit is this bumper and back glass? I had on the patchworks level ITG case on mine, dropped from a 3ft bathroom sink, landed in the corner and cracked the screen even with the tempered glass on! I could not use the phone for a week until I realized the display was separated from the gorilla glass panel so I pried it up so it can "glue" back. Thank god I got Square trade warranty.
I have yet to find a good case to protect it since. My guess was the more tight fit the case, there is less room for shock absorption so it goes straight to the phone itself.
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How tight fit is this bumper and back glass? I had on the patchworks level ITG case on mine, dropped from a 3ft bathroom sink, landed in the corner and cracked the screen even with the tempered glass on! I could not use the phone for a week until I realized the display was separated from the gorilla glass panel so I pried it up so it can "glue" back. Thank god I got Square trade warranty.
I have yet to find a good case to protect it since. My guess was the more tight fit the case, there is less room for shock absorption so it goes straight to the phone itself.
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Well the phone is not moving around within the case. But the inside of the aluminium frame and the metal frame of the tempered glass back are covered with a foam material. That's necessary to not scratch our Note 8 for sure and it should prevent the phone from being broken if it drops. Anyway this is not a hardcore drop survivor case like the UAG cases are, i think. I've already searched for a drop test, but wirhout success. There are some aluframe test, but not for one of these.
If the community donates me another Note 8 i'll try that for you guys for sure
The Mi Mix i have owned was covered by a Luphie metal bumper having the same material inside. It dropped once out of the carmount between seat and middle console onto the metal mount of the Recaros. Just a tiny mark on the metal frame, but nothing happened to the phone! The corner it dropped onto, perfect condition. Remember, the Mix is ceramic! These frames definitly offer a decent protection. It's for sure a high quality aluminium.
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Do you guys have any pictures of it on your own phones?
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Do you guys have any pictures of it on your own phones?
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Zzzz so it actually has all that disgusting writing all over it? That's the only thing keeping me from actually buying one...
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Zzzz so it actually has all that disgusting writing all over it? That's the only thing keeping me from actually buying one...
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As you can see on the pictures of my phone (last two attached pictures), yes. The rebranded one Zizo offers has a Zizo Text and the bottom text. The top one is missing if i remember right. Well, if you don't like the writing, don't buy this case.
My mother droptested it for me in the meantime. From the wireless charger, around 75cm height, onto a wood floor. Well, everything fine, no scratches, simply zero damage.
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pappschlumpf said:
Here's a very nice metal bumpercase I've bought at AliExpress. It looks outstanding, offers a decent protection level and the manucaturing quality is on a very high level. Signal quality is perfect like the manufacturer promises. The case is available in serveral color, black, gold, blue, etc. It is offered for a very reasonable price around 15€.
@Mr.Ash.Man
Especially for you. Added two pictures showing my device with one of your custom AOD backgrounds.
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Nice case! Just cancelled mine after heaeing feedbacks on the GPS glitch when used with this case on. I wonder if you've experienced that? Especially, when inside the car?