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Remove Youtube APP?

Hi Folks,
Is there a way to remove system applications (not just disable) like YouTube?

sjbayer3 said:
Hi Folks,
Is there a way to remove system applications (not just disable) like YouTube?
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You need root for that. It's impossible to uninstall a system app without root. For now, disabling is your only option on certain apps like youtube.

DaNamesFrank said:
You need root for that. It's impossible to uninstall a system app without root. For now, disabling is your only option on certain apps like youtube.
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you can use this: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
it doesnt totally remove it from the system but it removes it from the user. its like disabling but you can do any app, not just system apps.
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sjbayer3 said:
Hi Folks,
Is there a way to remove system applications (not just disable) like YouTube?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
1. adb shell
2. pm uninstall -k --user 0 <name of package>
youtubes package is com.google.android.youtube
to totally remove it go into settings > apps > youtube and uninstall updates

mweinbach said:
you can use this: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
it doesnt totally remove it from the system but it removes it from the user. its like disabling but you can do any app, not just system apps.
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Yeah i seen the video on xda's yt channel. Honestly i dont find it that much great if you're constantly having to factory reset and doing everything from scratch again but you are right. Not calling you wrong or anything just imo not really an effective thing.

Add non-messenger apps to Samsung Dual Messenger?

So the creation of parallel workspaces is blocked in the Security Policy of 8.0, preventing multiple copies of the same app. However, Samsung's Dual Messenger still successfully copies apps it sees as messenger apps, and allows them to run just fine. So what exactly determines what Samsung is willing to let appear here as "Messenger app", so that I can manually add the non-messenger apps I need multiple instances of.
Thanks

I don't know how Samsung determines their "dual app" policy. But you can use the "Secure Folder" to create another copy of any app you would like, the only problem is that it is secure and you have to use fingerprint/password every time you access the app. That's the only inconvenience.

Moe100021 said:
I don't know how Samsung determines their "dual app" policy. But you can use the "Secure Folder" to create another copy of any app you would like, the only problem is that it is secure and you have to use fingerprint/password every time you access the app. That's the only inconvenience.
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thanks for the feedback, unfortunately secure folder is the first thing to go when you unlock your phone =/

I've found a method that requires ADB. NO ROOT NEEDED.
Step 1: Enable Dual Messenger for an existing app (e.g. WhatsApp).
Step 2: Enable USB Debugging and connect your device to your computer.
Step 3: Open command prompt in your adb folder.
Step 4: Type
Code:
adb shell
Step 5: Type
Code:
pm list users
Step 6: In the resulting list, find the user named "DUAL_APP" and get its number. For example, the number is 95 on my device:
Code:
UserInfo{95:DUAL_APP:20000030} running
Step 7: Type
Code:
exit
Step 8: Copy your desired apk file to your adb folder.
Step 9: Type
Code:
adb install --user 95 desired_app.apk
Remember to replace "95" with whatever number you saw in Step 6.
Wait for the process to finish. A SUCCESS message should be displayed.
The app of your choice will now be installed in Dual Messenger.

@100055
I tried and not successful
Mine has 3 users though. So i use 95 and installed as instructed. But app cannot be found
any idea? here is my list of users.
Users:
UserInfo{0:Artee:13} running
UserInfo{95UAL_APP:20000030} running
UserInfo{150:david si:51020030} running
crownlte:/ $ exit

akuakus said:
@100055
I tried and not successful
Mine has 3 users though. So i use 95 and installed as instructed. But app cannot be found
any idea? here is my list of users.
Users:
UserInfo{0:Artee:13} running
UserInfo{95UAL_APP:20000030} running
UserInfo{150:david si:51020030} running
crownlte:/ $ exit
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I did as I said today, but it didn't work (google translate used)
edit:
I tried again now and the second app appeared in the app drawer. very thanks

this is awesome.. i tried this method to push pokemon go there, it appears in app drawer, but it kept seeking for location permission.
i checked, location permission is granted.. but it still prompts me for it.
checked with wechat, another app i have installed on dual messenger, it is able to use location services without a problem.
any idea how to fix this? if i can fix this, i can launch 2 pokemon go in split view at a push of a button (app pairs).
For now, i am using pokemon go from secure folder and normal installation.. and manually switching it to split view. will be awesome to have it under dual messenger and i can launch both apps at the same time, with split view.

vash_h said:
this is awesome.. i tried this method to push pokemon go there, it appears in app drawer, but it kept seeking for location permission.
i checked, location permission is granted.. but it still prompts me for it.
checked with wechat, another app i have installed on dual messenger, it is able to use location services without a problem.
any idea how to fix this? if i can fix this, i can launch 2 pokemon go in split view at a push of a button (app pairs).
For now, i am using pokemon go from secure folder and normal installation.. and manually switching it to split view. will be awesome to have it under dual messenger and i can launch both apps at the same time, with split view.
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You can install pokemon go from the Galaxy Store, both apps (gplay and galaxy store) have different package names so you can run both instances at the same time

Thank you very much. I've been using Island to do this but I really prefer the system built in option.

On a second thought, apps installed this way don't have access to any permission :crying:

jimbo77 said:
You can install pokemon go from the Galaxy Store, both apps (gplay and galaxy store) have different package names so you can run both instances at the same time
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I didn't believe you so I went to try.
Son of a gun it works!! Holy sheet thanks bro..
Sent from my SM-G985F using Tapatalk

same problem
DevanirNF said:
On a second thought, apps installed this way don't have access to any permission :crying:
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i have the same problem with pokemon, did you fix it?

lordferky said:
i have the same problem with pokemon, did you fix it?
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I didn't. I gave up and installed Island again

It works!
If you want, after installing the app you want, you could remove the dual messenger from Settings. Your installed app will still be there

I tried this adb procedure for Signal and it works. Permissions do not work initially after doing this procedure, for example, when first starting the secondary Signal it doesn't want to show your contacts. I found a workaround for this.
When going to Apps settings, it shows both Signal instances. Selecting the secondary Signal instance shows that it has no permissions. Clicking through on Permissions directs you to the "App permissions" screen, which shows that the permissions are there. However, the icon shown is for the primary Signal instance. Seems like it mixes up both instances at this point and that it is not possible to access the permissions screen of the secondary Signal instance.
I found that when I go back to the Apps screen and select "Permission Manager" in the menu, then select a specific permission, such as Contacts, it will show a list with all apps that have/do not have this permission. The secondary Signal instance is listed under 'denied'. Selecting it then allows its Contact permission to be set directly. Moreover, selecting "See all Signal permissions" on this screen goes to the correct App permissions screen for the secondary Signal instance, i.e. it shows the icon with the dual app icon badge. Here it is possible to set all desired permissions. Contacts are now visible in the secondary Signal instance and I was also able to access my pictures after allowing access to media.

Hi,
This might help out some of you. I own a Galaxy S21 5G. Wanted to install Signal as a Dual Messenger app, but as of today, Samsung does not officialy supports it.
So I followed VincentThaker steps then forsel's details regarding contacts access.
It worked BUT I needed to do a few things to make it work:
1. Step 9: Getting the Signal app from the website, even if it has same version number as the installed version, does not work as it gives you an '[INSTALL_FAILED_VERSION_DOWNGRADE] error when trying to install.
You have thus to get the same apk file from the already installed Signal app.
To do it, use the following commands:
adb shell pm path org.thoughtcrime.securesms --> To retrieve the path of the .apk file already installed on your phone.
Then with the path retrieved, type:
adb pull <signal_apk_path_source> <your_destination_folder_on_your_pc_path>
For example:
adb pull /data/app/~~K4TFGjn3Sl0Ue-e6zvv8mQ==/org.thoughtcrime.securesms-RaqtFP_b3phb1CaEL3Q5hw==/base.apk C:\Temp\base.apk
Then put this base.apk file into the ADB folder. You can now proceed with step 9
Thanks so much to all that helped me achieve installing Signal as a dual messenger app

DevanirNF said:
On a second thought, apps installed this way don't have access to any permission :crying:
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you can grant them in adb.... i used
.\adb shell pm grant --user 95 com.discord android.permission.READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
to give discord permissions to view my files... you can replace com.discord with the package name for what app you want (.\adb shell pm list packages --user 95 to find it) then look up the name to what permission you want
also im as dumb as you can get and in no way am i knowledgeable about any of this... i slapped together that line from other times i needed to use adb and got it to work soooo :/

ok so i made progress on this... and holly crap i did something...
i checked the packages on dual messenger and there was no play services... no play store without hard work... that means i need to use an alt app store if i dont want to indent my head with random permission grants i dont understand. so i chose to use aurora store because you dont need a google account and it uses the play store servers. now i can download any app on the play store a 2nd time as a 2nd app in dual messenger without adb for each one...
ok so heres how i did it
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/ get aurora store with that link (try it on your phone like a normal apk install first to avoid issues)
get that apk into your adb folder and name it something easy to type like aurora (i used aurora.apk so change that to yours)
adb install --user 95 aurora.apk
go through the setup with the default settings until it asks for permissions
.\adb shell pm grant --user 95 com.aurora.store android.permission.READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
.\adb shell pm grant --user 95 com.aurora.store android.permission.WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
.\adb shell appops set --user 95 com.aurora.store MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE allow
.\adb shell appops set --user 95 com.aurora.store REQUEST_INSTALL_PACKAGES allow
USE GUEST MODE (unless you are in a beta programme)
now you should have the app store installed and it should get perms to install apps (this way was important so its on the dual messenger account and can install inside it)
if you want to install an app it might say that its installed... this is because it is.... on your main account... its just confused to install do this
3 dots on the top right
manual download
type the version number provided
check
confirm the install
this app store uses googles servers so its safe (to my knowledge) and you can even copy a link to the file from google's servers in the apps downloads menu
there is definitely more we can do to make dual messenger work perfectly with any app and any service.... anyone who can contribute please do
EDIT: apps might crash if they aren't on the main account so you should try to install this store with your phone like a normal apk first... also if you are in any beta programmes to apps you will need to log into your google account instead of anonymous so there isn't a version issue.

chicken10dys said:
ok so i made progress on this... and holly crap i did something...
i checked the packages on dual messenger and there was no play services... no play store without hard work... that means i need to use an alt app store if i dont want to indent my head with random permission grants i dont understand. so i chose to use aurora store because you dont need a google account and it uses the play store servers. now i can download any app on the play store a 2nd time as a 2nd app in dual messenger without adb for each one...
ok so heres how i did it
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/ get aurora store with that link
get that apk into your adb folder and name it something easy to type like aurora (i used aurora.apk so change that to yours)
adb install --user 95 aurora.apk
go through the setup with the default settings until it asks for permissions
.\adb shell pm grant --user 95 com.aurora.store android.permission.READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
.\adb shell pm grant --user 95 com.aurora.store android.permission.WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
.\adb shell appops set --user 95 com.aurora.store MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE allow
.\adb shell appops set --user 95 com.aurora.store REQUEST_INSTALL_PACKAGES allow
USE GUEST MODE
now you should have the app store installed and it should get perms to install apps (this way was important so its on the dual messenger account and can install inside it)
if you want to install an app it might say that its installed... this is because it is.... on your main account... its just confused to install do this
3 dots on the top right
manual download
type the version number provided
check
confirm the install
this app store uses googles servers so its safe (to my knowledge) and you can even copy a link to the file from google's servers in the apps downloads menu
there is definitely more we can do to make dual messenger work perfectly with any app and any service.... anyone who can contribute please do
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In step 3 i do get the success messege but when trying to open the app from my phone it doesnt open as it keep crashing the moment i tap on it.

Everything13 said:
In step 3 i do get the success messege but when trying to open the app from my phone it doesnt open as it keep crashing the moment i tap on it.
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does the apk work with your phone if you install it from your phone.. like if you normally installed an apk? also try to close all apps then open it again (i had problems where yt vanced did that)

Youtube app auto reenabled

Hi.
Recently i have tried add another language under Setting > General management > Language and input > Language.
Some apps start update their language including the default Youtube app ( which i disabled, because i use Youtube vanced).
Now that i removed the added language (now it is English only, just like before) but youtube app keep auto reenable itself and there is a notification about the phone is updating language for youtube. I tried disable youtube app again but this keeps happening about once a day.
Can someone help me out?
Ps: I also tried factory reset and clear the cache but nothing works.
Thank you guy.

Dragonfly9091 said:
Hi.
Recently i have tried add another language under Setting > General management > Language and input > Language.
Some apps start update their language including the default Youtube app ( which i disabled, because i use Youtube vanced).
Now that i removed the added language (now it is English only, just like before) but youtube app keep auto reenable itself and there is a notification about the phone is updating language for youtube. I tried disable youtube app again but this keeps happening about once a day.
Can someone help me out?
Ps: I also tried factory reset and clear the cache but nothing works.
Thank you guy.
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try this via adb
adb shell
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.youtube

chetan180 said:
try this via adb
adb shell
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.youtube
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Thanks for reply.
Will this trigger the knox counter and can I still use Samsung pay (sorry, I'm really new here )

Dragonfly9091 said:
Thanks for reply.
Will this trigger the knox counter and can I still use Samsung pay (sorry, I'm really new here )
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no it wont trigger anything

Remove bloatware apps on realme xt [no root]

Hi guys, most of the Realme users aren't a fan of the color OS since its heavy, looks immature, and filled with bloatware. However there is a way to remove all the bloatware in Color OS. NO ROOT IS REQUIRED AND ITS NOOB FRIENDLY.
Code:
* DO NOT REMOVE ANY IMPORTANT SYSTEM APP, I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE IF SOMETHING UNEXPECTED HAPPENS WITH YOUR DEVICE ;_;
REQUIREMENTS:
1. A PC/laptop with drivers and minimal ADB installed.
2. Realme XT, and a type-C USB cable to connect the device to the computer/laptop.
3. Package viewer app that can be installed from Playstore. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.csdroid.pkg&hl=en_US
PROCEDURE:
Firstly, go to settings, click on 'About Phone' and continuously tap the Version until it says that 'now your'e a developer'. Then go to additional settings, developer options, enable it and turn on the "USB DEBUGGING" option under developer options.
1. Now connect your phone to PC/laptop using the data cable, and choose transfer files option from the popup on your phone.
2. Now migrate to the folder where minimal ADB is installed, and hold shift key and right click on mouse button, and click on 'Open Powershell window here'.
3. Now type 'adb devices' on the powershell window, and allow access from from device. A serial code must be shown on your screen.
4. Now type 'adb shell' and press enter. Now a new line should come starting with "RMX1921:/ $" , means we are good to go.
5. Now you have to enter commands to remove apps. The command is 'pm uninstall -k --user 0 package name' then press enter. In the place of package name, you have to type the name of the package which needs to be installed. Now open the package viewer app and look for the package name of the app which needs to be removed. You can remove the built-in bowser, calculator, compass, app market, music, roaming, video, weather, etc.
For example, if you need to remove browser, the command which you have to type is, 'pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.nearme.browser' then press enter. You'll see a message saying success. Bullseye! Happy bloatware removing!!
6. If you wanna install any app again, in adb shell, type "cmd package install-existing <package name>" and the particular app will be reinstalled.
COMMANDS USED:(Type these after typing "adb shell")
*For removing an app,
Code:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 <package name>
*For installing it back,
Code:
cmd package install-existing <package name>
If you have any doubts, feel free to comment. I'll be happy to help you.
Thank you. Cheers.

great bro.. thanks i need it

gou225 said:
great bro.. thanks i need it
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You're welcome.

if i remove browser app and app market will there be any issue during color os system update

Which are the list of applications which can be remove safely
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ssbala said:
if i remove browser app and app market will there be any issue during color os system update
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There won't be any issues, coz the system update won't cause any changes to the apps.

blackyz01 said:
Which are the list of applications which can be remove safely
Sent from my RMX1921 using Tapatalk
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You can remove the apps which are provided by realme, like their browser, app market, compass, roaming, weather etc. Don't remove any system apps. (Google related and framework related apps).

This is a really good info. Thanks a ton for this procedure of bloatware removal. I was really searching for root to remove these bloatwares. But without root this is awesome.
Tell me one thing, by same procedure can we install any app as system app?

ashman8123 said:
This is a really good info. Thanks a ton for this procedure of bloatware removal. I was really searching for root to remove these bloatwares. But without root this is awesome.
Tell me one thing, by same procedure can we install any app as system app?
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You're welcome.
For installing an app as a system app, you need root access.

A help
Bro i bought Realme XT 4GB 64GB and got it delivered just yesterday..But the Thing is even after 1st reboot,Ram available is around 1.8 GB..is it unusual??? Should i be returning phone..The Realme CC asked me to Reboot it..Now Available Ram is 2.20 GB..Im confused... ? Plz help me.

amrish7799 said:
You can remove the apps which are provided by realme, like their browser, app market, compass, roaming, weather etc. Don't remove any system apps. (Google related and framework related apps).
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Can you please elaborate on this further?
These are the apps I'm planning to get rid of, but due to the lack of adequate information I'm reluctant to actually uninstall them, anticipating whether the action may cause system wide instability.
Clone Phone
Game Center (however, I could NOT find any package name for this one on App Inspaector)
File Manager (I want to replace it with Solid Explorer Pro)
Messages (I want to make Microsoft SMS Organiser as one and only messaging app; hence, this one is important)
Photos (want to replace it by Google Photos)
I tried deleting all of them once - which resulted me unable to select ringtone/notification/alarmtone of my choice - forcing me to factory reset the phone.
Yes, I know I can assign default apps through the app manager setting - but what is the point of keeping two messaging apps (or for that matter, two gallery apps)?
I need to have these information about the cross-dependencies of these apps with the system wide instability issues. Thanks in advance.

could you share the list of maximum number of bloatware, those can be removed safely without tampering os?

SogaBan said:
Can you please elaborate on this further?
These are the apps I'm planning to get rid of, but due to the lack of adequate information I'm reluctant to actually uninstall them, anticipating whether the action may cause system wide instability.
Clone Phone
Game Center (however, I could NOT find any package name for this one on App Inspaector)
File Manager (I want to replace it with Solid Explorer Pro)
Messages (I want to make Microsoft SMS Organiser as one and only messaging app; hence, this one is important)
Photos (want to replace it by Google Photos)
I tried deleting all of them once - which resulted me unable to select ringtone/notification/alarmtone of my choice - forcing me to factory reset the phone.
Yes, I know I can assign default apps through the app manager setting - but what is the point of keeping two messaging apps (or for that matter, two gallery apps)?
I need to have these information about the cross-dependencies of these apps with the system wide instability issues. Thanks in advance.
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Of these apps, you can remove clone phone. It won't cause any issue. You can't remove game centre (since the package name is unknown). Since file manager is linked with the ringtone selection, don't remove it too. Photos and Messages can be removed.
However i would recommend you to remove clone phone and photos app from your mentioned list of apps, since others are framework related apps.

ashman8123 said:
could you share the list of maximum number of bloatware, those can be removed safely without tampering os?
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As i said previously, you can remove the bloatware related to color OS. I can give the list of apps which i have removed, and i have no issues with the OS.
1. App market
2. Browser
3. Calculator
4. Clone phone
5. Keep notes
6. Music
7. Video Player
8. Weather and weather services
9. YouTube.
Do not remove any framework related apps like file manager. I'm not responsible if any unstablity occurs due to the removal of framework apps.

amrish7799 said:
As i said previously, you can remove the bloatware related to color OS. I can give the list of apps which i have removed, and i have no issues with the OS.
1. App market
2. Browser
3. Calculator
4. Clone phone
5. Keep notes
6. Music
7. Video Player
8. Weather and weather services
9. YouTube.
Do not remove any framework related apps like file manager. I'm not responsible if any unstability occurs due to the removal of framework apps.
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Obviously you will not be responsible for any instability occurs...:laugh:
BTW thanks. game center icon can be turned off from app market setting but after uninstalling app market i still able to find game center.

Pankaj0610 said:
Bro i bought Realme XT 4GB 64GB and got it delivered just yesterday..But the Thing is even after 1st reboot,Ram available is around 1.8 GB..is it unusual??? Should i be returning phone..The Realme CC asked me to Reboot it..Now Available Ram is 2.20 GB..Im confused... Plz help me.
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its quite common.. just enjoy the phone

The package name for Game Center is com.nearme.gamecenter but every time I try to uninstall it, the prompt just tells me its failed [delete_failed_internal_error]
Anyone know a way around this?

how to restore uninstalled app later?
I tried pm disable but it is error so uninstall is the only way to do it, it is just to make sure I'm able to restore it if needed or have stability problem later.

addtional APP's that can be uninstalled
ashman8123 said:
Obviously you will not be responsible for any instability occurs...:laugh:
BTW thanks. game center icon can be turned off from app market setting but after uninstalling app market i still able to find game center.
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amrish7799 said:
As i said previously, you can remove the bloatware related to color OS. I can give the list of apps which i have removed, and i have no issues with the OS.
1. App market
2. Browser
3. Calculator
4. Clone phone
5. Keep notes
6. Music
7. Video Player
8. Weather and weather services
9. YouTube.
Do not remove any framework related apps like file manager. I'm not responsible if any unstablity occurs due to the removal of framework apps.
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Hi Amrish,
can we uninstall the below app's also? what do you suggest?
Game canter
game space
ORoaming
phone manager
Photos (Realme)
realme store
theme store
apart from that i see facebook services in package viewer app though i dont use facebook

om4gus said:
how to restore uninstalled app later?
I tried pm disable but it is error so uninstall is the only way to do it, it is just to make sure I'm able to restore it if needed or have stability problem later.
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You can perform a factory reset to restore your phone to original state. All the removed bloatware apps will be reinstalled. Or else, you can just use the command to reinstall the particular app. The command is given in the first post.

Question Remove default music app

Good day fellow vivo owners
I have x60 pro plus chinese variant with latest origin os
I want to remove imusic app or whatever its called. I dont seem to be able to remove it. Also bunch of other vivo apps. Is it safe to remove them? Everytime i connect it to my car it show poo up about music and i dont use it. I use musicolet.
Vivo imusic
Vivo i video ( i chinese**)
Vivo app
Vivo.com app
Thanks a ton.
Is there a possibility to have root? Custom recovery? I think that would be the only way to get funtouchos.
Android auto doesnt work on originos .

It's not required to have root or any kind of modifications to disable system apps, it can be disabled, but for a specific user, if you're not sharing the phone with anyone, then it'll be like if you're just disabling the package completely.
You need to use ADB, run the command:
adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.android.bbkmusic
Or whatever the package name is that you want to disable. Just be careful, sometimes disabling the wrong package may cause bootloops.

Yeah I know thats why I'm asking here if it is safe to disable those apps. Thanks

bsmstar said:
Yeah I know thats why I'm asking here if it is safe to disable those apps. Thanks
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The mentioned apps are safe to disable/remove.

I have removed them and installed pulsar Wich can be set as default music player in app defaults

Anyway to remove bloatware on Funtouch OS11 ?
Funtouch OS 11 has considerable improvements. However, I would like to remove some of the bloatware. Tutorials I found do not work. Anyone know?
forum.xda-developers.com
You can check out this thread. I had found a way to remove the bloatware.