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[Q] Droid 2 Global/Pro - unlocking?

Does anyone know if it will be possible to unlock the Droid 2 Global or Pro? I know they are CDMA devices by default but as they also have WCDMA SIM cards I would love to use this unlocked on WCDMA networks. I know some BB's on Verizon (and previously on Bell/Telus) were sold like this and unlocked so I'm guessing theoretically possible, but is it likely???

Hi that would be great so when I travel to EU I would just put a pre-paid SIM inside and avoid any Roaming charges.
Does anyone know? Maybe installing Cyanogen will unlock it?

Yes, I just unlocked my D2 Global yesterday. Call VZW Global Support and they will give you the unlock code as long as your line has been active with no late payments for at least 6 months.
There are still some kinks though because when I put in my foreign SIM and scanned for local GSM networks, nothing came up. Others on various forums have reported this issue as well. I'm hoping it's just that this happens while in the USA, but I'm waiting to see if anyone else can shed some light on it.

SGMD1 said:
Yes, I just unlocked my D2 Global yesterday. Call VZW Global Support and they will give you the unlock code as long as your line has been active with no late payments for at least 6 months.
There are still some kinks though because when I put in my foreign SIM and scanned for local GSM networks, nothing came up. Others on various forums have reported this issue as well. I'm hoping it's just that this happens while in the USA, but I'm waiting to see if anyone else can shed some light on it.
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Hi I think you need to turn off CDMA and turn on GSM.

jgor2000 said:
Hi I think you need to turn off CDMA and turn on GSM.
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I wish that were the case lol. It turns out VZW may have somehow restricted access to the 850/1900 MHz GSM/UMTS bands, even though the device has the hardware to support them.

Q: Because it has two unlock codes. One unlocks any Sim card, the second code will be prompted only if the Sim card is not of any US carriers. Thanks

mickliq said:
Does anyone know if it will be possible to unlock the Droid 2 Global or Pro?
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Post #116

Note 8 unlocked

If I buy the unlocked version from Samsung will I be able to use it on ATT and Verizon networks? Will there be a limitations on what LTE bands that the phone can use? Just trying to avoid the bloatware that carriers have on their phones. I have both before mentioned carriers. I really want the note 8 but if I can't use the unlocked version to its full potential. Then I guess I. Will go with the Verizon version. I have been waiting since they took back my note 7 and now I can hardly wait to fill the void lol.
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Dark Jedi said:
If I buy the unlocked version from Samsung will I be able to use it on ATT and Verizon networks? Will there be a limitations on what LTE bands that the phone can use? Just trying to avoid the bloatware that carriers have on their phones. I have both before mentioned carriers. I really want the note 8 but if I can't use the unlocked version to its full potential. Then I guess I. Will go with the Verizon version. I have been waiting since they took back my note 7 and now I can hardly wait to fill the void lol.
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I recently chatted with a Verizon representative regarding this very question. I asked two key questions.
"Does an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 8 work on Verizon networks?"
Essentially the person told me they needed the phone to determine weather or not it would work on the Verizon network; either the MSIN or IMSI number. My belief is there is, most likely, a better answer elsewhere.
"Does Verizon restrict any features on unlocked phone?"
The Verizon representative told me they don't restrict any features for unlocked phones.
I know this still doesn't answer the question you have. Just know that I, and others, also have the same question(s).

mrjmrogers said:
I recently chatted with a Verizon representative regarding this very question. I asked two key questions.
"Does an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 8 work on Verizon networks?"
Essentially the person told me they needed the phone to determine weather or not it would work on the Verizon network; either the MSIN or IMSI number. My belief is there is, most likely, a better answer elsewhere.
"Does Verizon restrict any features on unlocked phone?"
The Verizon representative told me they don't restrict any features for unlocked phones.
I know this still doesn't answer the question you have. Just know that I, and others, also have the same question(s).
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Thanks for the reply on your conversation with a Verizon rep on this issue. I will keep my ears open and hope we all can find that answer.
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Dark Jedi said:
Thanks for the reply on your conversation with a Verizon rep on this issue. I will keep my ears open and hope we all can find that answer.
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This is from my chat transcript with Samsung technical support. Yes, an unlocked Note 8 will work with Verizon's network.
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Amit H: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?
Amit H: Please excuse us for the long hold. We have had an unusually high volume of chats coming in. I would be happy to assist you with any questions you have about our products.
You: If I order an unlocked Galaxy Note 8 phone, will it work on the Verizon network in North America?
You: no worries. I don't mind the wait.
Amit H: Yes, the Unlocked version of Note 8 phone will work with the Verizon.
You: perfect. Thank you!
Amit H: You are welcome.
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on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM

ekerbuddyeker said:
on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM
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From all the spec pages i've looked at, YES the unlocked version has DUAL SIM.

where did you see the SPEC pages. does anyone know where the bands are listed - want to compare what the unlocked and AT&T versions have (or miss)

ekerbuddyeker said:
on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM
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I've also been told that you lose WiFi Calling with unlocked phones on Verizon's network as well. Can anyone confirm this? I know for a lot of people Wifi Calling doesn't matter much, but when cell service is spotty my LG V20 often switches over to WiFi for the duration of the call.
I don't think there are any other Verizon features I use other than WiFi Calling, and I'd hate to lose it. But I also hate all the Verizon bloatware.

Only lose wifi calling and any bloatware that the provider puts on them. That’s all. All the bands are there.
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i was not able to use video calling on my unlocked s7 edge on t mobile. i was able to use wifi calling though

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where did you see the SPEC pages. does anyone know where the bands are listed - want to compare what the unlocked and AT&T versions have (or miss)
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Here is one example from the BestBuy website.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-note8-64gb-unlocked-orchid-gray/6002607.p?skuId=6002607
Click on Specifications, then look under Compatibility.

Does the unlocked note 8 come with a unlockable bootloader?

Be interesting if you could actually get wifi calling to work. I definetly need it as service is spotty in certain places of my house. Have Verizon but I'm paying outright regardless so it'd be the same price.

What about updates? I know for the unlocked S7, the updates were actually slower than the carrier branded, which is actually kinda crazy.
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I jumped on the unlocked version; on T-Mobile. Now I'm wondering if I made the right decision.

I just pre-ordered the unlocked version through samsung's website. I will be using it with AT&T. I was going to order it through best buy but when i visited the samsung site they had the freebies ready to ship with the order as well.

treoreloaded said:
I just pre-ordered the unlocked version through samsung's website. I will be using it with AT&T. I was going to order it through best buy but when i visited the samsung site they had the freebies ready to ship with the order as well.
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Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.

LouK said:
Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.
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I just preordered the unlocked version from Samsung.com as well. http://www.samsung.com/us/galaxy/note8/buy/ It was $960.00 for the Sprint version or $929.99 for Unlocked. I chatted online with customer service and they said the only difference with the Unlocked version was the lack of carrier apps (carrier bloat). Unlocked means Carrier/SIM Unlocked. Unless Samsung had a miraculous change of heart, the bootloader will be locked just like the Snapdragon Note 7, S7, & S8.

LouK said:
Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.
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He means sim unlocked.
There is no bootloader unlocked NA device.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6

When I saw that the unlocked version worked on Verizon, I was surprised until I saw that the processor on the unlocked Note 8 is Qualcomm Snapdragon and not Exynos.

Question Is there a Dual SIM Snapdragon S21 Ultra model?

Is there a Dual SIM Snapdragon S21 Ultra model? If yes, what’s the model number?

The specs at GSMArena say:
Single SIM (Nano-SIM and/or eSIM) or Dual SIM (Nano-SIM and/or eSIM, dual stand-by)
So it looks like at least one of the models is dual sim (and it's mentioned in the description on the Samsung website) - but there's no indication which model it might be.

Samsung support said my unlocked 512gb will be dual sim - but it took a lot of time on the phone researching and calling other people for them to find that info. Not even sure if it’s true at this point. It’s very strange how this is so difficult to figure out

HK unit should have dual sim according to my supplier.

Action123 said:
Samsung support said my unlocked 512gb will be dual sim - but it took a lot of time on the phone researching and calling other people for them to find that info. Not even sure if it’s true at this point. It’s very strange how this is so difficult to figure out
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Are you purchasing it in the US from Samsung.com? Did you buy it already? Is the Dual SIM feature active or did these scummy carriers manage to bully Samsung into not selling a single Dual SIM phone into the market?

China/HK version is SD888 + dual sim

prodigiez said:
China/HK version is SD888 + dual sim
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If I buy it in the US, will it change my updates from Samsung?

Dont waste your money getting TGY version in US.

prodigiez said:
Dont waste your money getting TGY version in US.
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Why? What's bad about it?
It doesn't have software updates at the same rate?
I wonder if local COVID tracking support is present?

Yes. Hongkong version always release with dual sim snapdragon
Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G SM-G9980: https://samfw.com/firmware/SM-G9980

Yes, it supports dual sim

The Hong Kong variant has Dual Physical SIM's but no E-Sim. Regardless of which country you use it in you'll get timely updates as they are provided by Samsung, not your local service provider.

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Dont waste your money getting TGY version in US.
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Why not? No carrier bloatware, dual sim's, unlocked bootloader, fast updates and the only call features you won't have are CA and 5G which at this time is more of a promotional gimmick than a useful feature.

varcor said:
Why not? No carrier bloatware, dual sim's, unlocked bootloader, fast updates and the only call features you won't have are CA and 5G which at this time is more of a promotional gimmick than a useful feature.
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What about the US unlocked version? I don't care about unlocked bootloader, I know how to remove/disable all bloatware. And, the speed of updates don't matter as much as they used to. This isn't 2012.

In India we have the dual sim exynos variant (Sim1 - PHY, Sim2 - PHY or esim) if you put in a physical Sim in the 2nd Sim position then esim gets disabled. If you use esim then the 2nd Sim is disabled.

nixnixnixnix4 said:
What about the US unlocked version? I don't care about unlocked bootloader, I know how to remove/disable all bloatware. And, the speed of updates don't matter as much as they used to. This isn't 2012.
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Nope. I mean, I wasn't aware that it doesn't support dual physical SIM. But right on their website on the S21U page, it says that no US versions support eSIM. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that the answer is, unfortunately, no =/
But the good thing is that (probably with any unlocked version of the phone) you can just carry around both of your SIM cards and the sim pin tool in a really small, durable canister... You'd just have to turn off the phone and then swap the SIM cards whenever you wanted to change your service. It'd be slightly more annoying, but still doable!

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Are you purchasing it in the US from Samsung.com? Did you buy it already? Is the Dual SIM feature active or did these scummy carriers manage to bully Samsung into not selling a single Dual SIM phone into the market?
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from what I can gather, after a LOT of trying . . . there is no dual sim US version samsung phone. This from a lot of searching and phone conversations with several tech and sales personnel on the phone with Samsung. For this reason, I bought a non US version which broke the Samsung Health Monitor app and does not work for 5G within the USA. other than that it seems to be behaving nicely on the Tmobile US based network.

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Nope. I mean, I wasn't aware that it doesn't support dual physical SIM. But right on their website on the S21U page, it says that no US versions support eSIM. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that the answer is, unfortunately, no =/
But the good thing is that (probably with any unlocked version of the phone) you can just carry around both of your SIM cards and the sim pin tool in a really small, durable canister... You'd just have to turn off the phone and then swap the SIM cards whenever you wanted to change your service. It'd be slightly more annoying, but still doable!
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Ive tried that solution and its a lot more problematic than it might seem. I need the extra sim because I travel overseas and my US carrier starts complaining when my roaming data goes large (even tho they advertise "unlimited"). that means i would need to remember to turn off mobile data everytime i change the card. also the tool gets lost and bent and you can actually bend or break those sim trays after a lot of changing . . . not to mention losing sim cards on a bumpy train or taxi. I hate to invoke Murphy, but you can be assured that when a super important call is trying to come in it will not be on the line associated with the sim card currently installed. Sim swapping can also cause minor problems with messaging apps like whatsapp and telegram that could be a whole new thread. The only real viable solution for a frequent traveler is a dual sim phone with sim 2 used for mobile data in the locale physically present in. Second to that is carrying two phones. Least desireable (at least for me) is frequent sim swapping. That's my experience and humble opinion after years of very heavy international travel.

SM-G9980 has dual SIM fully working. I know for a fact because that's the version I have. }
I'm from Chile and the phone does everything I want it to do.

I have the 9980. It is fully dual sim but does not do 5G in the US. Occasionally I don't get data in some places in the US even when I have 5 bars. I'm guessing there are other bands this device misses. But that's rare. Everything is a compromise in life!
One good piece of news is that the T-MOBILE NOTE20 ULTRA now has it's esim activated. So if you are predominantly in the US this is the combo you need as it's dual sim and 5G in the US. The hope is that they do this with more devices including the s21.

Question Firstnet and unlocked s21 ultra

Hello. Has anyone had experience with firstnet carrier and an unlocked s21 ultra or any other unlocked samsung? I tried switching over to firstnet but i was told that since my phone is unlocked that i wont be able to use firstnet so i ended up switching to att. I was wondering if switching over to the att firmware i will be able to take advantage of that network or if its something with the imei on the network side. If anyone could confirm if that is possible or not that would be awesome. Thanks

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Hello. Has anyone had experience with firstnet carrier and an unlocked s21 ultra or any other unlocked samsung? I tried switching over to firstnet but i was told that since my phone is unlocked that i wont be able to use firstnet so i ended up switching to att. I was wondering if switching over to the att firmware i will be able to take advantage of that network or if its something with the imei on the network side. If anyone could confirm if that is possible or not that would be awesome. Thanks
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your phone is unlocked GSM, if firstnet is CDM it won't work,

FirstNet is built off At&t. CDMA is 2010 technology, its almost all decommissioned now.
It does seem like FirstNet sells the phone, so it should theoretically be supported by other S21 variants as well. If you ended up switching to At&t and your S21 worked, IMO it shouldn't be a problem inserting a FirstNet sim and get that to work as well. And with the One UI 4.0 it should potentially be less of a problem.

ErickF said:
Hello. Has anyone had experience with firstnet carrier and an unlocked s21 ultra or any other unlocked samsung? I tried switching over to firstnet but i was told that since my phone is unlocked that i wont be able to use firstnet so i ended up switching to att. I was wondering if switching over to the att firmware i will be able to take advantage of that network or if its something with the imei on the network side. If anyone could confirm if that is possible or not that would be awesome. Thanks
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It uses Band 14 which is First Responder reserved. A lot of ATT phones have it and some aftermarket phones use it but by aftermarket I mean non network locked phones like Doogee etc.
FirstNet probably won't let you bring that phone because it's not Band 14 compliant.

Verizon S20 FE software updates outside US

Saw a reddit post where someone was asking for a solution to his unlocked at&t s20 fe not being able to receive OTA software updates since he was using it outside the usa with a non at&t sim card.
Is this really a thing and does anyone know if the verizon version also has the same restriction? Posted a comment on the reddit thread but it was a couple months old and I doubt anyone will answer.
Thanks

the Verizon version of the 5g has different hardware I've learned. because Verizon use mmwave 5g and pretty no-one else there does, it's gonna be searching for towers it can never find the whole time.
that also means it has it's own firmware compared to other models and with that being carrier firmware, controlled and released by them, they have zero reason to offer it outside the US.

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the Verizon version of the 5g has different hardware I've learned. because Verizon use mmwave 5g and pretty no-one else there does, it's gonna be searching for towers it can never find the whole time.
that also means it has it's own firmware compared to other models and with that being carrier firmware, controlled and released by them, they have zero reason to offer it outside the US.
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Could I flash the unlocked version's firmware on it and bypass the need for an active verizon sim card?
I could simply opt out of 5g connectivity from the settings, no?

Petrit Ziu said:
Could I flash the unlocked version's firmware on it and bypass the need for an active verizon sim card?
I could simply opt out of 5g connectivity from the settings, no?
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I'm guessing that if it even installed the firmware at best it would be unstable with massive radio/modem issues.
I wouldn't suggest trying but if you did make sure to download the latest verizon firmware for after when the unlocked hasn't work!