alexbanana and HI - Introductions

alexbanana and HI - Introductions

I'd like to say hi. I've been in and out of xda for a few years. Tech challenged. Have managed to root a few phones pre magisk. Fixed a couple of phones in bootloops, and fixed a few near death experiences thanks to what I learned here. Now I struggle with bloatware, dislike google in theory, hated when my battery drains fast but haven't rooted a phone in a long while. I'm back for guidance on rooting blackberry priv. Thanks to the folks/developers and the people who also screw up their phoness

alexbanana said:
I'd like to say hi. I've been in and out of xda for a few years. Tech challenged. Have managed to root a few phones pre magisk. Fixed a couple of phones in bootloops, and fixed a few near death experiences thanks to what I learned here. Now I struggle with bloatware, dislike google in theory, hated when my battery drains fast but haven't rooted a phone in a long while. I'm back for guidance on rooting blackberry priv. Thanks to the folks/developers and the people who also screw up their phoness
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Welcome back then!

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[Q] Debating on making the switch

I'm a current iPhone 3G owner and I'm due for an upgrade. I was at the AT&T store last week buying my girlfriend an iPhone4(ironic, right?) and saw the Captivate. I picked up the phone and fell in love, I love the screen, love the interface, loved everything about it. My immediate reaction was, I need to have this phone, this is going to be my upgrade. I start reading around websites and forums and all I've been reading is negative things about the Captivate.
My question is, is the Captivate an upgrade over the 3G and is there really that many issues with it? I'm growing tired of the same ole, bland ole iPhone and love the customazation available with the Cap.
Thank you.

Of cause it is an upgrade to your 2 year old iPhone 3G. This is the world of tech.
And yes, there is a lot of issues too. Because there is no perfect thing in this world.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

I came from an iphone 3G, and it is definitely an upgrade from the iphone, yet a learning curve because the 2 OS' are completely different! But so worth the switch!!
Sent From My Captivate

If youre techie prone the galaxy is for you.
From rooting, to lag fix, sideloading, tethering, etc... you'll love this phone
I know i do

skizzz said:
If youre techie prone the galaxy is for you.
From rooting, to lag fix, sideloading, tethering, etc... you'll love this phone
I know i do
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I don't think I'll have any problems with anything tech wise, reading around seeing all the issues is what really has detered me from this phone. I think I'm going to make the switch..

You won't regret it. There are fixes for most things, the only issue I have thats still nagging is the GPS problem.

Scalzone said:
My question is, is the Captivate an upgrade over the 3G and is there really that many issues with it? I'm growing tired of the same ole, bland ole iPhone and love the customazation available with the Cap.
Thank you.
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Well, yes, of course the Captivate is an upgrade over the iPhone 3G; the screen alone (nonetheless the rest of its specs) should make that obvious.
Lastly, the only problems I really know with the Captivate is some having GPS issues, and the phone experiencing lag. Otherwise, everything is pretty much an acquired taste due to the switch from iOS to Android. If the Captivate will be your first Android phone, then I can pretty much assure you that that part --switching OSes -- will be the hardest.

I came from a 3GS and felt like it was an upgrade in every possible way, except the Marketplace. It's not quite there yet, but catching up fast.
There are a lot of problems with the phone, but I will tell you this. You will probably have to go through a handset or two (maybe more in some cases) before you find one that works as you expect. Don't be shy about exchanging the handset till you strike gold and don't see anything outside of the GPS issue, which is an admitted software fix from Samsung.
Outside of that, you will be overwhelmed at first. Learning a new OS is always a bit daunting, but when it's an open source OS it's even more so. You have to get yourself into the mindset of how to do things, as opposed to if you can do them. Tons of customization and software choices. The phone really lets you flex your personalization muscles. If you don't like the browser, download a different one. If you don't like the music player, there are 10 more to take it's place.

How reliable is this phone?

I found one on Craig's List and my girlfriend desperately needs a new phone. I plan on sticking to stock OS and not rooting or customizing it because it's for her and I don't want to risk bricking her.
I just want to know, how reliable is this phone?

Personally, this is my last Samsung phone. So... I wouldn't recommend it.

Essenar said:
I found one on Craig's List and my girlfriend desperately needs a new phone. I plan on sticking to stock OS and not rooting or customizing it because it's for her and I don't want to risk bricking her.
I just want to know, how reliable is this phone?
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I got a Captivate for my gf and she loves it, but the stock OS pissed her off due to lagging and bloatware.
We installed Cognition 2.3b8 which was very easy and now she really loves it as her daily driver. All you do is put an update.zip for Clockwork on the root of SD. Reboot into oem recovery, reinstall packages twice to get to Clockwork, then wipe data and flash Cognition. Couldn't be easier.
Honestly, if you can find a Nexus One for AT&T (if you have AT&T the T-mobile version will be Edge only!! You need an AT&T Nexus One) I think that's your best bet, but with a little bit of modding and care the Captivate is a great phone. My gf LOVES the giant screen and beautiful display.
That said, the more I learn about it the more pissed off I am with Samsung. Different revisions, ODIN, Kies, Download Mode, etc. Rooting this thing is way more complicated than it needs to be. I'm running a MT4G and SOOOO glad I didn't buy the Vibrant. Shudder...

The only problem I've ever had with my cappy is the GPS, which, after reading the GPS fixes thread has been absolutely perfect.
To me this is the perfect phone. Fast, reliable, pretty. I don't even want anything faster anymore. If phones peaked in speed right now and started focusing strictly on battery life (I get about 1.5-2 days right now, I'd like to get 3-5), I'd be perfectly happy with that.

Craig's List? Buyer beware!

Here is where I am at:
This phone is probably not the best choice if you are planning on giving it to your wife without a custom ROM. If you plan on giving it to you wife with a ROM it is a good choice regardless of what ROM you choose however it is better if you use one that is as close to stock as possible: cognition, perception, or Andromeda (1.00).

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Craig's List? Buyer beware!
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I've got several great phones off CL. Do your due diligence as a buyer and you'll be just fine.

If you can get it for a decent price, then go for it.
Here's a simple pro & con list:
Pros
-Super AMOLED screen makes pictures and videos gorgeous
-1 GHz Processor that can be overclocked to 1.28GHz (stable) and undervolted to improve battery performance
-The xda devs are constantly providing the Captivate support that Samsung has failed to give us.
-Did i mention the Super AMOLED screen? Yes, yes I did.
-Swype makes texting a lot more fun to type on the phone once you get past the 1-minute learning curve
Cons
-Developed by Samsung and so the customer support for the phone is terrible
(see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913045)
-The stock AT&T Rom is filled with bloatware that takes up space and attempts to get you to spend more money on AT&T services.
-AT&T has disabled the ability to sideload apps (install apps from outside of the market) on the stock ROM, and so you won't be able to install third-party apps if/when you come across them.
-No official 2.2 froyo release from Samsung, despite promises from them as well as AT&T to have it released by the end of 2010 (this is when the store rep told me to expect the update when i bought my phone. derp).
-Some GPS Issues
Conclusion based on my personal opinion.
Overall, I love this phone and I'm glad I chose it over the iPhone 4 due to the ridiculous customization available. However, if not for the xda devs creating amazing custom ROMs, I would have probably returned it for the original Jesus phone.
My advice? Get the phone, pick out a launcher from the market (LauncherPro, ADW Launcher, or for the minimalist: Zeam) and grab handcent while you're at it. Then give her the phone and she should be happy with it.
More advice? Sure. Root the phone, flash Cog 3.02 onto it with the firebird 2/Glitterball kernel and JK4 modem.
Sorry if this post seems a bit jumbled and scattered. I'm currently doing about 4 different things at once and posting from my Computer Class at the local community college haha

Dont' buy it. GPS problems, shutdown issues, and, based on the general lack of reliability so far, probably more issues to come as the phone ages. If it weren't for the beautiful display and the custom ROMs here on xda I'd have little good to say about my phone. Since you don't plan on modifications the screen is really all you'd get. Does that screen outweigh the hardware problems I've noted?

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Rooting this thing is way more complicated than it needs to be.
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SuperOneClick -- The program is called "SuperOneClick". That is literally all it takes to gain root on a SGS phone. So, personally, I think rooting is not nearly as complicated as it could be!

yourname146 said:
SuperOneClick -- The program is called "SuperOneClick". That is literally all it takes to gain root on a SGS phone. So, personally, I think rooting is not nearly as complicated as it could be!
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Let me rephrase that. Custom ROMs are more complicated than they need to be. I've used SOC on my MT3G, works well. It's ODIN, Kies and manually flashing modems and kernels that annoys me. I've flashed radios and roms on my mt3g and I'm comfortable with fastboot and adb so I'm not a total noob. HTC just seems simpler to me, but maybe that's because I'm used to it.

The only beef I have had with this phone is the GPS issue. otherwise it's a great phone. Beautiful screen, sleek design and fast with a good ROM such as Cognition.

I've decided I'm either going to get her a Nokia N900 or an iPhone (some variation). I can't put a phone in her hands with such a gamble on the GPS (There's no guarantee the fix works and no way to identify which Captivates will work and won't work). Especially since this phone is purchased used and won't have a warranty on it.
I wish her sister would make up her mind about AT&T. If she decided to stay with AT&T I could just buy her something new. If she decided to leave AT&T, I could buy her a new Android device with another carrier.

Essenar said:
I've decided I'm either going to get her a Nokia N900 or an iPhone (some variation). I can't put a phone in her hands with such a gamble on the GPS (There's no guarantee the fix works and no way to identify which Captivates will work and won't work). Especially since this phone is purchased used and won't have a warranty on it.
I wish her sister would make up her mind about AT&T. If she decided to stay with AT&T I could just buy her something new. If she decided to leave AT&T, I could buy her a new Android device with another carrier.
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I can tell you from experience, **** AT&T! T-mobile has buy one get one free for MT4G right now, I have no clue why on earth you would want to stay with AT&T.
Seriously, I have been with T-mobile for 5 years and I'm in love with their service. Every time I call I get an AMERICAN rep on the phone in 5 mins tops.

pizz0wn3d said:
If you can get it for a decent price, then go for it.
Here's a simple pro & con list:
Pros
-Super AMOLED screen makes pictures and videos gorgeous
-1 GHz Processor that can be overclocked to 1.28GHz (stable) and undervolted to improve battery performance
-The xda devs are constantly providing the Captivate support that Samsung has failed to give us.
-Did i mention the Super AMOLED screen? Yes, yes I did.
-Swype makes texting a lot more fun to type on the phone once you get past the 1-minute learning curve
Cons
-Developed by Samsung and so the customer support for the phone is terrible
(see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913045)
-The stock AT&T Rom is filled with bloatware that takes up space and attempts to get you to spend more money on AT&T services.
-AT&T has disabled the ability to sideload apps (install apps from outside of the market) on the stock ROM, and so you won't be able to install third-party apps if/when you come across them.
-No official 2.2 froyo release from Samsung, despite promises from them as well as AT&T to have it released by the end of 2010 (this is when the store rep told me to expect the update when i bought my phone. derp).
-Some GPS Issues
Conclusion based on my personal opinion.
Overall, I love this phone and I'm glad I chose it over the iPhone 4 due to the ridiculous customization available. However, if not for the xda devs creating amazing custom ROMs, I would have probably returned it for the original Jesus phone.
My advice? Get the phone, pick out a launcher from the market (LauncherPro, ADW Launcher, or for the minimalist: Zeam) and grab handcent while you're at it. Then give her the phone and she should be happy with it.
More advice? Sure. Root the phone, flash Cog 3.02 onto it with the firebird 2/Glitterball kernel and JK4 modem.
Sorry if this post seems a bit jumbled and scattered. I'm currently doing about 4 different things at once and posting from my Computer Class at the local community college haha
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This is a very fair and accurate assessment.
Absolutely get this phone if you're comfortable rooting the phone and installing custom ROMs, launchers, etc. The phone will run markedly better than stock and will be a dream to use.
If you're not technically inclined, and need rely on $am$ung and AT$T for your firmware updates, get a different android phone. Updates are either never coming or will be over half a year behind and quite possibly bugged and broken even if you do get them.

kingtz said:
This is a very fair and accurate assessment.
Absolutely get this phone if you're comfortable rooting the phone and installing custom ROMs, launchers, etc. The phone will run markedly better than stock and will be a dream to use.
If you're not technically inclined, and need rely on $am$ung and AT$T for your firmware updates, get a different android phone. Updates are either never coming or will be over half a year behind and quite possibly bugged and broken even if you do get them.
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Thanks
I feel like I should mention that I'm now using Exists Suckerpunch kernel and it's... Well... Amazing. OC/UV support with speedmod's battery battery tweaks is pretty much the best thing ever. And exists (pretty cool guy, eh made my favorite kernel ever and doesn't afraid of anything) updates so often I barely have time to find and complain about any bugs that happen to slip past.
This phone is quite captivating indeed.
Herp derp Captivate XDA App

Phateless said:
I've got several great phones off CL. Do your due diligence as a buyer and you'll be just fine.
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Me too. That said out of the box the Captivate is a very frustrating phone to use. The GPS is spotty and You won't have full access to it's super fast Gee Bees unless you install a custom ROM.

I ended up getting her an iPhone. I know guys, I know.
To be honest, I didn't feel comfortable giving her a phone with spotty GPS as this will be her primary GPS unit.
Reading the custom rod and GPS thread gave me no assurance that doing the fix and rooting with a custom rom would fix the issue.
I have enough problems dealing with my MyTouch 4g that you may see me on a Bionic or iPhone with Verizon anyway.
But thanks for the advice. I may root and mod her sisters Captivate to score points because I heard she has had for warranty replacements lol.
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gunnyman said:
Me too. That said out of the box the Captivate is a very frustrating phone to use. The GPS is spotty and You won't have full access to it's super fast Gee Bees unless you install a custom ROM.
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Totally agree.
Essenar said:
I ended up getting her an iPhone. I know guys, I know.
To be honest, I didn't feel comfortable giving her a phone with spotty GPS as this will be her primary GPS unit.
Reading the custom rod and GPS thread gave me no assurance that doing the fix and rooting with a custom rom would fix the issue.
I have enough problems dealing with my MyTouch 4g that you may see me on a Bionic or iPhone with Verizon anyway.
But thanks for the advice. I may root and mod her sisters Captivate to score points because I heard she has had for warranty replacements lol.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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I've been keeping my eyes open for an iPhone4 for my gf as well for the same reasons you mentioned. There's also an AT&T iteration of the Evo coming soon. That might be a good device for her.

Phateless said:
I got a Captivate for my gf and she loves it, but the stock OS pissed her off due to lagging and bloatware.
We installed Cognition 2.3b8 which was very easy and now she really loves it as her daily driver. All you do is put an update.zip for Clockwork on the root of SD. Reboot into oem recovery, reinstall packages twice to get to Clockwork, then wipe data and flash Cognition. Couldn't be easier.
Honestly, if you can find a Nexus One for AT&T (if you have AT&T the T-mobile version will be Edge only!! You need an AT&T Nexus One) I think that's your best bet, but with a little bit of modding and care the Captivate is a great phone. My gf LOVES the giant screen and beautiful display.
That said, the more I learn about it the more pissed off I am with Samsung. Different revisions, ODIN, Kies, Download Mode, etc. Rooting this thing is way more complicated than it needs to be. I'm running a MT4G and SOOOO glad I didn't buy the Vibrant. Shudder...
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Really??? Rooting this is as easy as switching off your phone and rebooting. With all the easy stuff available right here in this forum and tons on the net... it is a breeze to root and flash a custom ROM.

Don't ROOT The S4

I am trying to persuade you from ROOTING your phone. Please don't do it!!
Here is my experience with Android.
I have had the following phones.
Nexus One
HTC EVO, HTC EVO Shift, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO 4G LTE
Samsung GS2, GS3 and Note II
I am currently on the S4.
Here is why I will never ever root another phone again. Once I rooted any of these phones from above the following happened.
Stability was trash and out the door. Battery life suffered. I always had issues with GPS. So many FC for the dumbest things also. Pictures never came close to the stock form. I had to work on it and update it constantly. So I decided to go with the Galaxy S4. I rooted the phone and started the same routine as before. So I started having problems again. After my battery life went to the life span of a GS2 I quit. I went completely back to stock.
So here is what stock did for me:
I went on vacation in the mountains. Guess what? No GPS Issues at all and boy was I happy because I would have been in big trouble without it. Calls work great without any issues. I took pictures of my kids and the places we have visited and they are simply stunning. I didn't even have to use my DSLR. The Videos I have taken and bright and beautiful. Never once through our entire vacation did I have any issues with the Phone. Ohh and another thing. The Signal is great on stock ROM. I get full 4G in my office and with absolutely every single ROM in here I barely had 3G in my office. If you want to get tethering then root the stock room and add just that simple feature and walla. Don't mess a perfect beautiful phone by rooting it. I am not trying to offend any of the developers on here at all. They will never be able to match Stock I am sorry but that is the truth. Not even One!!!
If you want to enjoy your phone stay STOCK.

Smh OK thanks for the input on xda where this is all custom ROM development/third party.
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Rooting caused these issues? Or unstable ROMs caused these issues?
I have rooted the most recent 3 phones that I've owned, and have installed custom ROMs on two of them - stable, with all the features that I wanted, and none of the bloat that I didn't.
My S4 is stock rooted, with the mods that I want - for now. I've tried CM on my GNex before this - even nightlies, and found that to be as stable as stock.
Yes, flashing custom ROMs always has the risk of unstable code if it hasn't been tested thoroughly. That's why ROMs like CM offer nightlies, and release candidates, and stable. Pick your poison.
If you are happy with staying stock, good for you!
Voila

11secEVO said:
I am trying to persuade you from ROOTING your phone. Please don't do it!!
Here is my experience with Android.
I have had the following phones.
Nexus One
HTC EVO, HTC EVO Shift, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO 4G LTE
Samsung GS2, GS3 and Note II
I am currently on the S4.
Here is why I will never ever root another phone again. Once I rooted any of these phones from above the following happened.
Stability was trash and out the door. Battery life suffered. I always had issues with GPS. So many FC for the dumbest things also. Pictures never came close to the stock form. I had to work on it and update it constantly. So I decided to go with the Galaxy S4. I rooted the phone and started the same routine as before. So I started having problems again. After my battery life went to the life span of a GS2 I quit. I went completely back to stock.
So here is what stock did for me:
I went on vacation in the mountains. Guess what? No GPS Issues at all and boy was I happy because I would have been in big trouble without it. Calls work great without any issues. I took pictures of my kids and the places we have visited and they are simply stunning. I didn't even have to use my DSLR. The Videos I have taken and bright and beautiful. Never once through our entire vacation did I have any issues with the Phone. Ohh and another thing. The Signal is great on stock ROM. I get full 4G in my office and with absolutely every single ROM in here I barely had 3G in my office. If you want to get tethering then root the stock room and add just that simple feature and walla. Don't mess a perfect beautiful phone by rooting it. I am not trying to offend any of the developers on here at all. They will never be able to match Stock I am sorry but that is the truth. Not even One!!!
If you want to enjoy your phone stay STOCK.
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Im sorry to tell you this but rooting a phone only makes it better. I have rooted every android phone I have ever had and never had any problems. Also the issues you are having do not seem like root issues (unless you are flashing unstable rooms). Are you sure you know what you are doing because if you don't its like sky diving without a parachute.

Haha if this isn't a joke.Learn how to control that phone before you root it.What's funny is I see slot of people on xda always crying about certain things not working and my phone lags its the developers fault.Well I say **** that,know what your doing before you root.Learn what mods do what and if you have a problem,fix it.Do not let that hardware become smarter than the user.
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In related news, don't modify your car. Reliability becomes trash and out the door. Gas mileage suffers. You have to work on it and update it constantly.
If you want to enjoy your car stay STOCK.

you can be stock and rooted. my s4 is super awesome. not one complain... well except that it is too thin and light... sometime I feel like the a gust of wind will carry it away.

I think iOS would be perfect for you!
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Im glad you got off your soap box, ya feel better now. and thank you for your advice. I do understand your point of view, and this is why some people remain stock. Its just that you are going off of your own experience. Out of all those phones, and they're mostly decent devices, you couldnt manage to find 1 stable rom? The lesson in this is dont follow your lead, so Im not

I Agree with xxxicu sound like IOS fanboy. He forget to mention that there was someone on the mountains with a GS4 custom Rom that blew he Iphone5 away with features his phone can only dream of.

Prob got his iPhone hooked up to iTunes updating it again to fix security exploits and battery drains.
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Sorry to hear that rooting didn't work out for you. My experience has completely opposite to yours. My S4 (MF9 stock ROM rooted with the Hotspot mod) has been fantastic, especially compared to my previous phone, a EVO 3D (also rooted). I had a HTC ONE for a few days but IMO the S4 is better suited to my preferences. I even use the gestures and ir features. I live in L.A. and get great reception and pull in LTE consistently at the places I go. Based on Speedtest, I see no change in speeds on my phone when it was stock vs now that it is rooted. I travel (domestic) extensively and when using apps like Maps with Me, GPS works fine. I am scheduled to travel to Europe next month and to Asia at the end of the year so I cannot comment on how well it works when swapping SIM cards yet.
As for taking pics and video, I agree that the S4 has a great camera (and significantly better than the EVO 3D I mentioned) and it's convenient to take photos and record with. However there is no way it can replace my DSLR ( Nikon D800) nor do I expect it to. For what I personally do the quality of images when only using a cellphone is not acceptable. Of course if the photos you take on the phone meets your needs and are good enough, then that's all that matters.

Thanks man. I just unrooted my phone after reading the OP!
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mjs2011 said:
Thanks man. I just unrooted my phone after reading the OP!
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+1...I couldnt get back to stock recovery quick enough!!!
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I've been rooting my phones since the OG Epic (although didn't really get serious about it until the EG4T) and I've never encountered any of the issues listed.
I've run into problems on different custom ROMs but found in all those cases all you had to do was inform the developer and they usually put out a fix (if it was in fact ROM related).
It's a shame you've had such bad experiences but I think it's a little excessive to try and warn people away from rooting.

Rooting your phone has absolutely no impact on any of those things you are complaining about. What you do after you are rooted is a different story. I have been rooting for about 4 or 5 years and haven't had any of those problems.
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Rooting breaks phones. Guns kill people. Cars cause crashes. The devil made me do it. Did I miss anything?
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My only concern with this post is that a stock rom is not intrinsically better or worse no matter what phone you have
A stock rom is built until all bugs are fixed and then the devs are usually pushed to work on new software for the next device
A custom rom is built with donations and user enjoyment in mind
I mostly root to underclock and remove some bloat and I would not give up the knowledge of Linux, shell scripting, java, etc. . I have gained for the constant stability of my development device, which is usually my daily driver (separate the two if you're really that concerned)
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Rooting your phone has absolutely no impact on any of those things you are complaining about. What you do after you are rooted is a different story. I have been rooting for about 4 or 5 years and haven't had any of those problems.
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Well put,
rooting = su or admin privileges
It only allows you to write to root directory it's your choice what to do after that
I'd be pissed if I bought a computer that I didn't have admin rights on, how is a phone any different?

Please don't feed the IOS loving troll.

I honestly dont get why people B---- and complain all the time about this. I cant stand non rooted phones. I like my wifi tether and plus the battery life is WAY better than stock if your smart about it and not keep it overclocked. its only common sense. Plus as for GPS fix you could use GPS status to wipe and download the GPS files which helps for some things. But this phone is fast on grabbing GPS signals unlike other phones so i never needed to use it. Plus some of the mods are worth rooting for. Sure this phone is awesome and can do a lot but rooting is awesome for multiple things like removing that trash that loads the phone up with useless garbage and awesome themes as they come in.
Even when i had that pathetic iPhone 4s i had to jailbreak it just to tolerate it otherwise i was throwing it out the window.

Whether to root my Nexus 6? been on the fence for a while

I never rooted / jailbroke any previous devices but can't make up my mind on whether to do it with my N6.
I primarily never fiddled with rooting / jailbreaking in the past because of all the warranty issues in addition to pretty much any device-related product / app usually saying "you're on your own" to customers with rooted or jailbroken devices.
Not a huge issue for me now, as my phone's warranty was voided when I had to send it in for "repairs" after it broke (ie got a replacement phone in exchange for my broken one from motorola).
I'm incredibly intrigued by the countless perks that come with rooting such as customization, permissions, turning off encryption, and so on. However, I love my phone the way it currently is, and as a result am a bit hesitant to set it all up again / risk messing something up since I would need to learn how to do it (ie read one of the many useful guides on these forums).
Besides having better control over every part of the phone, the other main appeal of rooting for me is being able to get rid of the AT&T bloatwear on the phone. I absolutely hate AT&T and would love to rid myself of their presence in my life, even if just by a small amount.
So the issue is:
currently very content with my non-rooted N6 vs. love customizing / controlling everything on my device and hate AT&T with a burning passion, but would have to spend ample time learning how to properly root the phone / set everything up.
If anyone has any opinions I'm all ears. Do you know of a reason I should definitely not root the device that I'm unaware of? Did rooting your phone make your experience with your device so much better that you wouldn't even consider going back to a non-rooted device?
Opinions / thoughts are welcomed as I am pretty much just thinking out loud with this thread anyways :laugh:

Hard part is getting drivers installed but there is an all in one tool kit that does it all for you. Stalk lollipop is missing lots of key features like kill all apps button, and free hot spot. Roms fix this also having all volume sliders is great.

this thread should go into the help/q&a section, not into general..
edit.. it got moved to the right place

Read every post on rooting and watch every video at least two times. Download all files to a folder on your desktop ask all the questions you need to ask then jump in. A phone with an unlocked boot loader is the best place to start rooting. If your phone boot loops cause you messed something up don't worry you can come back from that.

lngwca said:
Reasons i rooted.
1. titanium backup
2. MCR Control (Reverse order of nav buttons. my thumb is too short for back button and i use one handed)
(double tap to wake)
(battery percent in notif bar)
3. Notification light (light flow enables it)
4. Cabinet beta or root browswer
I might be missing something... but those things benefit me on the daily.
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1. I think I already bought that app months ago on accident haha maybe I can finally use it if I root.
2. left handed here, didn't even realize how much of an issue it would be if the button was on the other side, that would be a must if I was right handed lol. Also double tap to wake is something I would love to have.
3. I miss that ittle light, then I saw the LED light when I dropped my first N6 and the screen shattered..not how I wanted to be reunited with it lol. Wouldn't mind seeing it without having to shatter my screen :laugh:
all very helpful, thanks!
bulvine420 said:
Hard part is getting drivers installed but there is an all in one tool kit that does it all for you. Stalk lollipop is missing lots of key features like kill all apps button, and free hot spot. Roms fix this also having all volume sliders is great.
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volume sliders is pretty high up there on the list of reasons I am so tempted to undertake the project of learning how to root. From what I've read so far it seems there are two methods for rooting that most people use, one of which is the all in one tool kit you mentioned? I'll have to check it out in more detail.
bulvine420 said:
Read every post on rooting and watch every video at least two times. Download all files to a folder on your desktop ask all the questions you need to ask then jump in. A phone with an unlocked boot loader is the best place to start rooting. If your phone boot loops cause you messed something up don't worry you can come back from that.
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that would be the plan if I end up rooting. When it comes to tech I get fairly OCD about knowing it all before I start fiddling with something. I've irreversibly broken enough programs / gadgets in my time to know that the slow and studious approach always wins
planning on going through the guides and videos on these forums with a fine-tooth comb once I've had more coffee lol.

phallb said:
I never rooted / jailbroke any previous devices but can't make up my mind on whether to do it with my N6.
I primarily never fiddled with rooting / jailbreaking in the past because of all the warranty issues in addition to pretty much any device-related product / app usually saying "you're on your own" to customers with rooted or jailbroken devices.
Not a huge issue for me now, as my phone's warranty was voided when I had to send it in for "repairs" after it broke (ie got a replacement phone in exchange for my broken one from motorola).
I'm incredibly intrigued by the countless perks that come with rooting such as customization, permissions, turning off encryption, and so on. However, I love my phone the way it currently is, and as a result am a bit hesitant to set it all up again / risk messing something up since I would need to learn how to do it (ie read one of the many useful guides on these forums).
Besides having better control over every part of the phone, the other main appeal of rooting for me is being able to get rid of the AT&T bloatwear on the phone. I absolutely hate AT&T and would love to rid myself of their presence in my life, even if just by a small amount.
So the issue is:
currently very content with my non-rooted N6 vs. love customizing / controlling everything on my device and hate AT&T with a burning passion, but would have to spend ample time learning how to properly root the phone / set everything up.
If anyone has any opinions I'm all ears. Do you know of a reason I should definitely not root the device that I'm unaware of? Did rooting your phone make your experience with your device so much better that you wouldn't even consider going back to a non-rooted device?
Opinions / thoughts are welcomed as I am pretty much just thinking out loud with this thread anyways :laugh:
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You have made your mind up already, if you on the fence, your ready to root!
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481 and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
Download one of the adb/fastboot lite zips, I will look for one for you (try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42407269#post42407269), it just loads whet you need. Then make sure you can connect to your phone, read the 2 links and after some minor settings to your phone, plug it into your PC, go to the dir you dl'ed adb/fastboot to and do "fastboot devices" if you see your device your ready to go. It may not be as easy as that, but its a 1x setup and sometimes it is that easy. Don't use an "all-in-one" tool, you won't learn anything and when you need to know exactly what step to do and you can't use a tool, you will be stuck, its not that complex.
Unlock; you will have to set everything up again, sorry. But if your gonna un-encrypt, do it now. Then root and flash a custom recovery, TWRP. Once you have that setup, boot into the recovery and do a backup. Boom, you can always flash that and your back to where you were. Now try some roms, I'm partial to BlissPop, so many features its insane, I'm also partial to Lean kernel, but Franco is great, but try em out. Flash the Rom/Kernel, you don't like it, restore your backup and your ready to start again.
If your on this site, your hooked, just do it and you won't be sorry, well you may get hooked and become a crack rom'er.

Ehem, crack. Flasher.

I have owned a LOT of phones. I used to root all of them. I haven't bothered with the N6. Just no need for me with 5/L.
I have also found that many times rooting has had adverse affects on the device that outweigh any benefits. Just me though.

thepolishguy said:
I have owned a LOT of phones. I used to root all of them. I haven't bothered with the N6. Just no need for me with 5/L.
I have also found that many times rooting has had adverse affects on the device that outweigh any benefits. Just me though.
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I feel the same way. I owned a galaxy nexus. I was a notorious crack flasher and ultimately in the end the device stopped turning on. Being that lollipop is incredibly buggy, I'm going to stay away from flashing.

I've never rooted before myself until now on the n6 and I really can't go back to no root. For me it was mainly for adaway, greenify, and titanium backup. But now that I've used them I don't care much for greenify and titanium, but adaway alone is worth it. I also discovered the super awesome LMT pie plus removing the soft keys, that's one mod I can't live without now.

Seiga said:
Being that lollipop is incredibly buggy, I'm going to stay away from flashing.
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I would think this would be one of the reasons TO flash.
Sent from my SinLess Shamu

jackpollard said:
You have made your mind up already, if you on the fence, your ready to root!
If your on this site, your hooked, just do it and you won't be sorry, well you may get hooked and become a crack rom'er.
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I stumbled upon this site from another.. Once I started reading and seeing what could be done and more reading, I had to try it. I love the ease at which it was rooted; thank you Chainfire... The tricks it does are amazing. :good:

thanks everyone, as some have guessed I think I'm leaning towards rooting at this point. Just need to read up so I know what I'm doing and then find the time to sit down and do it.
All of your feedback and personal experiences / suggestions is really helpful since I'm so new to this topic (rooting and all it entails). Please feel free to keep the opinions, favorite apps / features / why you root or dont root, etc coming.

I've decided not to root at this time, maybe down the road though I'm sure I will. Being on Sprint, my previous phones were the Hero, Evo 4G and then the Note 2, I found myself rooted and running roms soon after buying the phones. My only problem(if it was a problem) I was bored of Sense and Touchwiz rather quickly and loaded up aosp roms within a month or two of owning the phones. Hence why I now have the Nexus 6.
It'll be nice for awhile to not worry about small bugs with my phone, changing kernels, setups.... not that anything runs without bugs but at least I won't worry about it as much.
But if you're interested in having complete control over the phone, I would root asap!!
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Benefit of Rooting and Unlocking Questionable on Urbane?

Hi,
i am very curious. I've just ordered this watch for an alltime low price on a local store in germany and will have the unit tomorrow or friday.
I am quite experienced with custom roms, rooting and modding several smartphones but having a look in this forum especially the rom development section, there's really nothing much to see there except one or two kernels.
So what's the benefit, are there any apps which requires me to have the watch rooted or is there any thing i am missing out there?
What do you think?
Cheers.

endrancer said:
Hi,
i am very curious. I've just ordered this watch for an alltime low price on a local store in germany and will have the unit tomorrow or friday.
I am quite experienced with custom roms, rooting and modding several smartphones but having a look in this forum especially the rom development section, there's really nothing much to see there except one or two kernels.
So what's the benefit, are there any apps which requires me to have the watch rooted or is there any thing i am missing out there?
What do you think?
Cheers.
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When I first got mine a couple of months ago, I rooted and installed the custom kernel pretty much automatically because I always root and mod my phones and I assumed that I would want total control over the system on the watch, too. It went fine, and it was fun to learn about Wear. The kernel definitely improved battery life substantially. With respect to UX modifications, there isn't much that requires root beyond uninstalling bloatwear, which, for me, was just two or three apps.
A couple of weeks ago, I was getting freeze-ups and factory reset with the intention of re-rooting. I got interrupted and figured I would do it when I had time. Well, I have been on stock since, and am pretty happy. I just change watch faces frequently which of course doesn't require root. The crashes have ceased. The battery is not as good as it was on the custom kernel, but it's more than adequate for my use case.
I'll probably get back into hacking it when I have some free time.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Labs

PhilipTD said:
When I first got mine a couple of months ago, I rooted and installed the custom kernel pretty much automatically because I always root and mod my phones and I assumed that I would want total control over the system on the watch, too. It went fine, and it was fun to learn about Wear. The kernel definitely improved battery life substantially. With respect to UX modifications, there isn't much that requires root beyond uninstalling bloatwear, which, for me, was just two or three apps.
A couple of weeks ago, I was getting freeze-ups and factory reset with the intention of re-rooting. I got interrupted and figured I would do it when I had time. Well, I have been on stock since, and am pretty happy. I just change watch faces frequently which of course doesn't require root. The crashes have ceased. The battery is not as good as it was on the custom kernel, but it's more than adequate for my use case.
I'll probably get back into hacking it when I have some free time.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Labs
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thanks.
i have already received the watched and did the setup procedure a few times by now. i unlocked, flashed twrp and rooted ( didn't confirm root so far ) after i upgraded to 6.0.1 ... i'll see how it runs for now before flashing any other kernel or whatever to check out the current performance.

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