Hi, I've bought a sealed p4xl off eBay and the battery life seems "ok" compared to my p3xl.
But I've noticed a major battery drain with soli radar on (ambient display always off), I have the music gestures and the reach to wake.
Is that what's causing the drain? Or is it because of the "tap to wake"? (Also why is it tap to wake instead of tap twice?)
Some reviews from users that have tried with/ without the functions would be nice.
xDontStarve said:
Hi, I've bought a sealed p4xl off eBay and the battery life seems "ok" compared to my p3xl.
But I've noticed a major battery drain with soli radar on (ambient display always off), I have the music gestures and the reach to wake.
Is that what's causing the drain? Or is it because of the "tap to wake"? (Also why is it tap to wake instead of tap twice?)
Some reviews from users that have tried with/ without the functions would be nice.
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In my experience tap to wake does not cause any excessive battery drain. Music gestures and reach to wake ( or anything soli related really) will cause extra battery drain. Lift to wake may as well.
Hey. I have a Pixel 4 XL and the battery lasts for a day, and I charge it over night.
I have ambiente EQ, 90Hz, motion sense, tap to wake and lift to wake enable and various apps running on the background. I usually get 5 hours of screen on time.
I would recomend you to download Accubattery and see the battery health. Maybe the battery needs to be replaced. Mine is at 92% of health(almost new). If it is below 80% you should consider replacing it. Here you have a link to ifixit webpage. For heating I use a hair dryer instead of their special kit. It gives the same result.
If you still need more battery, maybe turn off Motion Sense and turn on battery saver mode. Do you have adptive battery turn on?
Maybe there is an app using more battery than what it should or it is crashing and drain your battery.
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I've turned everything off (Wifi, GPS, Sync, brightness, and autorotate by mistake) in an attempt to increase my battery life just like everyone else. The only item I leave on is Bluetooth for my car. The last couple of days my phone lasted all day. I can live with that.
This morning I went onto a web page and turned my phone sideways to read the screen a little better and it didn't flip. That’s right I turned the autorotation off so I turned it back on. Use the phone and set it down. I picked it up about an hour ago to check an email and the battery level was at 68%. At this rate I'll need to charge it sometime after lunch.
Could this feature be draining the battery this much?
Just an observation that seemed strange to me.
I would have never guessed that it would use that much battery. I assume it is constantly looking at the sensors which could be leading to the increased battery usage.
Leaving it off seems to be helping me get through the day without charging.
Dave
My battery life seems pretty similar on perception, I'll be running without auto rotate for awhile to check the graph. Will let you know. FYI Screen Filter has made my battery last an extra few hours+.
it could just be that your battery meter is not reporting the percentage properly. an easy remedy for this is recalibrating the battery by allowing it to discharge completely until it shuts off and then proceeding to charge it back to full without unplugging it. autorotate is definately not a battery drain, but the screen definately is.
Quick question: with always on detection whether the screen is on or off, is there extra battery drain on the N6, or is there some sort of low power processor like the ambient display that keeps the battery drain to a minimum?
Thanks in advance!
I haven't noticed any additional drain. I always get over 5 hours SOT with it on.
There will be battery use, but it probably wont be very noticeable.
I'm using better battery stats and i see the awake screen off time is always exponentially higher than my actual screen on time, slowly it balances out as i near towards 0% , i check kernel wake locks partial wake locks everything looks fine, what's causing this ghost bug to keep the phone awake when screen is off? is doze not working? on my one plus 3t, there was no major 'awake screen offf' stat in bbs it was always a low percentage but on the note 8 it's always top 3 ... what gives?
Are you using AOD?
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Are you using AOD?
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Nope. Have edge notifications turned off as well
downloaded wkelock detector, besides the standard google wakelocks, IFTT is waking up the phone thousands of times.
How can i tell IFTT to chill ?
Try using "force doze" app, from playstore, also search for it here in xda for how to fine tunning it, I am getting ~ deep slepping 80% of the idle time with AOD edge clock, that translates in 0.7% per hour of idle with the screen off
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Try using "force doze" app, from playstore, also search for it here in xda for how to fine tunning it, I am getting ~ deep slepping 80% of the idle time with AOD edge clock, that translates in 0.7% per hour of idle with the screen off
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Okay I'll try that, I assume greenify would do the same thing?
Overnight results
So I used force doze and still have high awake times while screen is off
This is driving me insane been using bbs for years and never had this show up this high before
still having the same problem, i used to get 6-8 hrs of SOT i can barely crack open 5hrs of SOT now, can anyone using better battery stats confirm they are getting lower screen off awake time?
I removed force size app and installed greenify 4 magisk. No diff in results
Anyone?
All I'm asking is for competitive better battery stats screenshots of screen off awake time
Sorry to revive this old thread.
@masri1987 - where you able to find a solution to this?
Just curious, if having Motion Sense on hurts battery life much? I only have the minimal of Motion Sense enabled, just Reach to check phone only. Skip songs off. Silence interruptions off. Always on display off.
And my Display settings I have Reach to check phone On. Tap to check phone On. Lift to check phone On.
Do these settings effect battery much, or not at all? What do you recommend for best battery life for Motion Sense and Display settings?
I have my settings exactly like you do actually. I can only assume they are helping battery life vs having all the motion sense settings on. I have no need for the others for my usage currently though that may change.
It's a 10% drain overnight sleeping with literally nothing swinging above it. For me that's a huge drain that I will not put up with. I disabled everything just like you and it was the same, doesn't matterwhat's feature your enable or disable, if you have it enabled it rains cuz it's constantly trying to send motion above it. At least that's what my testing showed.
I have it disabled altogether because that function is literally useless. When you can enable "turn screen on pick up" or "turn screen on with a tap"
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I turned off Motion Sense couple days ago, but in my battery use, showing which things used the most, #2 on the list was Ambient Display. But with Motion Sense off, what's using Ambient Display?
I did turn AoD back on, so is it the always on display draining?
I was having great battery life yesterday, at end of day, bedtime I had like 5h 30m SoT with like 33% battery life left. I didn't charge overnight, and this morning checked the phone and it was at 19%. I was like, how the heck did the phone lose like 10% overnight, when not in use, but unplugged. It's on WiFi. Does Always on Display kill it?
I initially used it but eventually just turned it off. I have a couple of trusted devices set up (my watch and my car) so my phone is never locked when I'm near it. Also, since the screen touch to activate works so well, I can tap the screen to check notifications so having Soli turn on the screen before I can touch it, but still needing to reach for it, it just didn't seem to be worth feeding it electrons just for that. Perhaps when they work out some more useful functions, like volume or muting, I'll turn it back on.
My battery life is like Zorachus (though I keep it on a charging stand overnight so I don't care about idle drain). I did this in the first couple of days of owning the phone before battery usage stabilized so I don't really know if it drains it significantly or not. Maybe I'll turn it on one day just to see.
With motion sense off but always on display on throughout the day yesterday and evening I was getting really good battery life I think I was just concerned cuz I left the phone at like 35% last night before bed I purposely didn't plug it in just to see and when I wake up and it had like 20% battery life so it went down over 10% while I was sleeping and I have everything pretty much turned off no location finder no push notifications I've got it stripped down pretty good on Wi-Fi so not sure what happened?
Mine dropped that much overnight Saturday but that was also the weekend I went 46 hours between charges and got 5-something hours of screen time (the only thing shut off was Soli and NFC (WiFi, BT, data, Location services, AOD, etc. were all on). Idle drain of ~1-1.5% per hour doesn't sound that bad to me.
hmmmm after reading this i turned motion sense totally off and AOD back on and will see the battery life over the next two days and compare.
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hmmmm after reading this i turned motion sense totally off and AOD back on and will see the battery life over the next two days and compare.
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Seems Motion Sense is a drainer, but AoD not so much. So for me, using my Pixel 4 XL with no Motion Sense, my battery life lately;
My battery life on my 4 XL seems to be all over the board, but it's never less than 5.5h SoT, and that's at the 10% mark when battery saver kicks in. Some days it seems I can get close to 7.5h SoT if run down to 1%. So I'd say I get on average 6.5h+ SoT.
I get better battery life at work, where my mobile signal is perfect connection, never searching. So that helps keep battery drain down.
- 90hz forced on always ( too nice and smooth not to keep on )
- Motion Sense off
- AoD on ( always on display )
- Location off always. Anything GPS related off
- Lift to reach on
- Tap display to turn on
- Display set to auto brightness always
I've always had it on, so, not sure what the difference is. But, my phone lasts from 6am and still has 30+ percent of battery left at 10pm. Definitely getting a full 20-24+ hours.
I have Soli on full, AOD, smooth display forced on, location on full, lift to wake off, tap to wake on, auto brightness on.
Does anybody use their Pixels with AOD off and Motion Sense on..? How's that affecting the battery..?
And, with that setup, when you reach for you phone, does it turn on the screen when the radar is triggered?
Yes that's the setup I have with only reach to wake turned on. Yes, it does wake up the screen and start looking for your face. Need to check the idle drain overnight.
Cant really say destroyed. It is a little less for me but definitely useable if one really likes the features. And thats coming from a small pixel 4.
Hello,
I would like to ask you guys, what apps do you use to save your battery?
Naptime? Anything else?
Nothing... I don't need to install anything to save battery. That being said, I USED to do this with apps like Greenify on my Galaxy Note 3 (so like 9-10 years ago). But I had stopped doing that a while back as doing so had only lead to even less battery life lol.
to be honest, the best battery saver is to uninstall the native Facebook application from your phone. it eats up battery like anything. you will see a noticeable improvement on your daily battery performance.
I've tried naptime and I've not really noticed a huge difference, at least in repeatable conditions, i.e. overnight. Same with Galaxy max Hz, although i like the additional controls that the latter gives
Love Bixby routines to switch to 2G when at home or activate batter saver when sleeping and not charging. Rly good stuff.
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
dscline said:
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I kind of do something similar. I've got a Bixby Routine to shut off the smart plug that the charger is plugged into when the Battery percent reaches 80. Unfortunately, Bixby routines isn't very reliable.
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I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I use Accubattery as well to monitor temp and charging.
If you use any power management especially 3rd party ones it can cause erratic behavior and may create conflicts that use more power than they save.
I deal with power hogs directly by either adjusting settings, disabling them or firewall blocking them.
Certain apps like Brave, Gmaps I manually close out when done or will they continue to poll the internet in the background and use power.
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to be honest, the best battery saver is to uninstall the native Facebook application from your phone. it eats up battery like anything. you will see a noticeable improvement on your daily battery performance.
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You can just turn off all notification and disable(deep sleep) in Background usage limits.
I’ve been using AccuBattery with IFTTT to shut off a smart plug at 75% for several years now to extend my phone’s battery life. This has been very reliable, it runs every morning before I wake up.
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You can just turn off all notification and disable(deep sleep) in Background usage limits.
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what do you mean disable? add facebook to deep sleep list? I noticed it's not working, even if I but it in deep sleep list I still get notifications. And do rly disabling notifications for facebook app improves battery? any source about that?
mankvl said:
what do you mean disable? add facebook to deep sleep list? I noticed it's not working, even if I but it in deep sleep list I still get notifications. And do rly disabling notifications for facebook app improves battery? any source about that?
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No, no. The first person essentially said to uninstall that crummy, built-in Facebook app and then to put some apps that you don't need notifications for into deep sleep mode. The second person mentioned the same thing with different wording.