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According to this:
http://hispeedcams.com/lenovo-zuk-z2-pro-will-have-960fps-video-confirmed/
ZUK Z2 Pro should be capable of recording video at 960 FPS.
It is probably achieved through interpolation or something, or not at all (see Mediatek and their "[email protected] FPS").
Anyway, when you guys get hands on ZUK Z2 Pro, share your impressions and what the camera is really capable of.
andriman said:
According to this:
http://hispeedcams.com/lenovo-zuk-z2-pro-will-have-960fps-video-confirmed/
ZUK Z2 Pro should be capable of recording video at 960 FPS.
It is probably achieved through interpolation or something, or not at all (see Mediatek and their "[email protected] FPS").
Anyway, when you guys get hands on ZUK Z2 Pro, share your impressions and what the camera is really capable of.
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Yeah it is on official site, there is 960 fps but unfortunately resolution is not mentioned.
Something is written in chinese forum that 960fps is not supported yet because there is no ZUI 2.0 yet.
So we will have to wait a little for a review.
hello everybody, as a student very intersted i made a little calcul. The snapdragon 820 is able to encode 4k video at 30fps, ie 8.29 Mega pixel at 30fps. So the sd 820 encode 248 Mpixels per seconds. So at 960fps, it means that you get about an image of 0.25 Mpixel,which is roughly a 480*640 pic. Not bad. However if some Mediatek CPU encode at 1080p 480 fps, and if the sd820 is considered better, then he can encode more than 2.09*480 Mpixel per seconds, which match 720p at 960fps. hoping for some other resolution/fps solutions from ZUI 2.0. But if there is no breaktrough for the camera then 960fps is impossible to reach( this far this speed is only achieved by pro cameras which cost thousands), meaning it's a false rumor launch by zuk for marketing aims. Wait for the reviews is my last advice. tchao
SD 801 was capable of [email protected] FPS already (h264).
SD820 is capable of 28 MPx/s (4K is 8MPx) , so theoretically, it is capable of much more than just what you mentioned. [email protected] FPS is only HEVC bottleneck.
https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/snapdragon-820-processor-product-brief.pdf
MTK claimed their SoC is capable of [email protected] with the use of a Sony's sensor which didn't even have that capability in it's datasheet.
And honestly, it's been a long time since they announced that and have you seen it ever come true?
The only mobile camera sensor capable of very high FPS up to this moment was Toshiba's T4K82 with [email protected] FPS, [email protected] fps and [email protected]
http://www.androidauthority.com/toshiba-240fps-t4k82-sensor-596203/&ved=0ahUKEwjDx_zy4f3MAhUFORQKHXP1BisQFggcMAA&usg=AFQjCNHi7pL_vdS6wb7F9fnUwtST4ip4IA&sig2=nTEBpX31ZuZS2WzWgj5VAQ
But it never appeared in a phone (or any device really), guess it was not as good as they claimed it to be...
OmniVision's OV13870 is capable of up to [email protected] through cropping and binning. However I have a feeling that they are actually the only one to be honest and admit it is not REAL 1080p. Because every slow-motion recorded with a phone I saw was like of a lower resolution then the file captained to be of. (720p looked like 360p, etc)
In my opinion, 960 FPS video recording is not possible with the mobile camera sensors which are currently at the market... Besides, iPhone always seems to come first with better slow-motion (they introduced 240FPS with a Sony sensor and nobody was able to compete woth that for more than half a year). They haven't even introduced 480FPS yet and somebody claims to have achieved 960 fps? I consoder that highly unlikely.
That is why I am looking for what comes out of ZUK Z2... If it really is a 'scam', then I say that they (ZUK and Lenovo) need to be punished...
Even if they come up with something ugly like frame interpolation.
First samples regarding the slow-motion video recording:
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/06/08/weekend-zuk-z2-pro/
So now it is confirmed - it does not record at 960 FPS. It does not even record at 240 FPS.
It records at only 120 FPS ! 720p is the resolution.. but honestly, it does not even look like 720p... more like 576p.
And the player allows you to set the playback speed... so for 960 FPS they basically play one frame 8 times....
Pretty disappointing...
I wonder if those specs are true. Seems underwhelming to me if those specs were to be true.
Currently I use a Xiaomi Mi5s which (after a mod) shoots FullHD at 60fps. I expected a nex gen phone to have at least 4k 60fps.
Anyway, I know it is way to soon to know for sure, but does anyone have some hopes to mod the Mi8\SE the way to make it shoot at 60fps in 4k?
Thanks for any ideas.
PS: Is it true the Mi8\SE doesnt feature optical stabilization?
What you expect for a 240€ device? OIS with 4K @60fps? The Mi8 SE is nothing in compare to the Mi8. Forget UFS, OIS, dual GPS and so on.
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What you expect for a 240€ device? OIS with 4K @60fps? The Mi8 SE is nothing in compare to the Mi8. Forget UFS, OIS, dual GPS and so on.
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I was asking if the MI8 had 4k 60fps or optical stabilization (maybe with the option to lower the frames to film 4k 30 to still have optical stabilization).
So, I rephrase my question:
1. Does the Mi8 have 4k 60fps? Some sites say yes, some say 4k 30fps.
2. Does the Mi8 have Optical Stabilization at all?
3. Does the Mi8 SE have the same camera/video specs (e.g. optical stabilization, etc.)?
I already own my Mi5s which can shoot 4k at 30fps.... -_-
1. Official soirce sad:
4K 视频拍摄，30 fps
1080p 视频拍摄，30 fps
720p 视频拍摄， 30 fps
慢动作视频，720p 240fps 、1080p 240fps
高帧率视频 1080p 120fps
2. Yes
3. No
Main: 后置 12MP ，1.4um 大像素 ，f/1.9 大光圈，Dual PD 双核对焦
后置 5MP ，1.12um 大像素，f/2.0 大光圈
Front: 前置 20MP，4合1 2.0um 大像素
The problem with 4k @60fps is you can just record few min. and the device get super hot.
Klanac89 said:
1. Official soirce sad:
4K 视频拍摄，30 fps
1080p 视频拍摄，30 fps
720p 视频拍摄， 30 fps
慢动作视频，720p 240fps 、1080p 240fps
高帧率视频 1080p 120fps
2. Yes
3. No
Main: 后置 12MP ，1.4um 大像素 ，f/1.9 大光圈，Dual PD 双核对焦
后置 5MP ，1.12um 大像素，f/2.0 大光圈
Front: 前置 20MP，4合1 2.0um 大像素
The problem with 4k @60fps is you can just record few min. and the device get super hot.
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But other devices can do it. Sure they cost a bit more, but that's what Mi-Devices are known for...to be outstanding. Oh well...have to wait for Mi9 or something...
I wonder if those 60fps can be unlocked somehow...i guess we have to wait for the xda devs to check out the device when released.
PS: Wait, FullHD at 30fps on the Mi8? That's a joke right?
The S845 support [email protected] and for sure you will get this option, maybe directly from Xiaomi.
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But other devices can do it. Sure they cost a bit more, but that's what Mi-Devices are known for...to be outstanding. Oh well...have to wait for Mi9 or something...
I wonder if those 60fps can be unlocked somehow...i guess we have to wait for the xda devs to check out the device when released.
PS: Wait, FullHD at 30fps on the Mi8? That's a joke right?
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You should be able to do it. Either by modifying just the media profile of the device or by modding the camera sensor libraries. However, modding libraries isn't an easy task but it's technically possible to do so if the sensor has the capabilities. If the device has a good and skilled developer community then someone will do it eventually. Also FYI, OP6 is the only new Android phone that can record at 4K on a stable 60 FPS and that's also with a 5 minute limitation. You're expecting too much bud.
Mi 8 - [email protected], OIS
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8-ampp-9065.php
Mi 8 SE - [email protected], no OIS only EIS
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8_se-9219.php
Thanks for replying. Yes, there are 2 websites online who proclaim Mi8 SE having 4k 60fps, but 95% of the web/youtube reviews say it has only 30fps. That's why I was asking, because some websites either don't know about their topic or are blatantly lying.
Does anyone know if the SE (now that the source code has been released) could be modded for 4k 60fps?
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Mi 8 - [email protected], OIS
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8-ampp-9065.php
Mi 8 SE - [email protected], no OIS only EIS
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8_se-9219.php
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Thanks for replying. Yes, there are 2 websites online who proclaim Mi8 SE having 4k 60fps, but 95% of the web/youtube reviews say it has only 30fps. That's why I was asking, because some websites either don't know about their topic or are blatantly lying.
Does anyone know if the SE (now that the source code has been released) could be modded for 4k 60fps?
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60fps recording support is only added on the latest miui10 for some devices, i think we will have to wait a bit more for updated reviews. I'm more interested in the gps for the mi 8SE since it's now selling in my country for a little bit more than the price of mi 6x.
It`s a little shame that phone made in 2018 can`t record 4k 60fps while my old S4+ with SnapDragon 800 (GT-i9506) from sept 2013 can record 4k 30 fps and 4k 20 fps also with default camera app. I ordered Mi 8 from China and phone should be here in few days.
why did u buy it?
Alienns said:
It`s a little shame that phone made in 2018 can`t record 4k 60fps while my old S4+ with SnapDragon 800 (GT-i9506) from sept 2013 can record 4k 30 fps and 4k 20 fps also with default camera app. I ordered Mi 8 from China and phone should be here in few days.
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It`s a little shame that phone made in 2018 can`t record 4k 60fps while my old S4+ with SnapDragon 800 (GT-i9506) from sept 2013 can record 4k 30 fps and 4k 20 fps also with default camera app. I ordered Mi 8 from China and phone should be here in few days.
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4k 60fps is too demanding for any Snapdragon processor at the moment unfortunately
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4k 60fps is too demanding for any Snapdragon processor at the moment unfortunately
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The S9 and OP6 can do 4k60 although short recording time
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The S9 and OP6 can do 4k60 although short recording time
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Yeah I meant for prolonged amount of times the way you can with 1080p, I think some OEM's think it isn't worth stressing the CPU out just for 3-5 mins of 4k footage
How about Zenfone 5z? Unlimited time 4k 60fps footage?
Have you tried opencamera app ?
I personally don't care about [email protected] however, we should have [email protected]
Any news about it with MIUI 10 ? The hardware should support it. :|
I am on chines developer rom and i have FHD 120 fps mode.
But for 4k it has only 30 fps so far.
Alienns said:
It`s a little shame that phone made in 2018 can`t record 4k 60fps while my old S4+ with SnapDragon 800 (GT-i9506) from sept 2013 can record 4k 30 fps and 4k 20 fps also with default camera app. I ordered Mi 8 from China and phone should be here in few days.
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How do you like it?
Is there a way to enable recording of 240 FPS slow-mo? I really do not mind the video being at quality of 720p, If the phone is capable of 1080p @240, I do not see a reason why it would not handle higher framerate at 720p.
where did you find info that it could handle 240 fps? i thought it was more like 60 (or 120 for 720p max)? don't get me wrong, i would like to see that, but imo this is out of A2's reach.
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Is there a way to enable recording of 240 FPS slow-mo? I really do not mind the video being at quality of 720p, If the phone is capable of 1080p @240, I do not see a reason why it would not handle higher framerate at 720p.
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It records video in 1080p at 60fps or 720p at 120fps.
The 660 chipset on the Mi A2 IS capable of 240FPS @ 720P.
(https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-660-mobile-platform)
The limiting factors here would be either A.) the camera modules or B.) software implementation.
So, in theory, yes but further testing/research would have to go into determining the possibility.
This would best be a question for Xiaomi support:
https://www.mi.com/global/support/contact/
Good luck!
and C) the willingness of Xiaomi of course
^^^ Absolutely this. LOL.
Even Mi 8 lite has 240FPS @720p, it uses the same CPU, so it is a software matter, so there should be a way to enable it.
@ond96
And you're likely right but, as of now, no one on XDA has volunteered to implement such a change.
Please contact Xiaomi and inquire further with them.
I tried to make a video in indoor light in 4K and 1080, 60 FPS, is there a reason why 4K is much less noisy? I did not think that resolution decides how much noise is there.
4K provides you with almost 4 times the resolution of 1080P thus you will most certainly see a difference in clarity.
In running a quick test, at 1080P on the default camera app, it captures the video at a bit rate of 20.0Mbits per second.
In contrast, at 4K @ 30FPS, it captures the video at 41.9Mbits per second.
So the capture size versus the bit rate is certainly going to play a deciding factor.
But there are other ways to achieve an optimal capture rate @ 1080P.
If Xiaomi gave us the ability to utilize the High Efficiency Video Coding (H.265) and dictate our own bitrate, you'd see better capture rates @1080P.
My only other suggestion would be to seek out a third-party camera application (GCAM perhaps?) and test further.
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4K provides you with almost 4 times the resolution of 1080P thus you will most certainly see a difference in clarity.
In running a quick test, at 1080P on the default camera app, it captures the video at a bit rate of 20.0Mbits per second.
In contrast, at 4K @ 30FPS, it captures the video at 41.9Mbits per second.
So the capture size versus the bit rate is certainly going to play a deciding factor.
But there are other ways to achieve an optimal capture rate @ 1080P.
If Xiaomi gave us the ability to utilize the High Efficiency Video Coding (H.265) and dictate our own bitrate, you'd see better capture rates @1080P.
My only other suggestion would be to seek out a third-party camera application (GCAM perhaps?) and test further.
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Is there an app that supports [email protected]? There is no point in recording videos [email protected] if there is 4K, but I like the idea of 60FPS.
Is there any way to shot super slow mo at lower resolution but higher FPS?
I know it shoots natively at 960fps at 1280x720, is it even technically possible to say shoot 640x360 at 4 x 960fps? Could an app be made to do so or no?