Today, all of a sudden, I see 5G showing up on my HK model G9980. I just did the big update Doesn't feel faster than LTE. Does anyone else know about this?
Has TMOB got additional 5G banks that work in the US ? Did they just switch them on? It means this is now a US and much of ROW 5G phone.
It's Low Band 5G on Tmobile, as you stated not much different than 4G LTE. Tmobile doesn't offer super fast mmWave 5G, only Verizon and AT&T but at this point their coverage is very limited. Since there's not much difference between Low Band 5G and 4G LTE it might be better to stick with 4G LTE as 5G consumes more power. You can check compatibility with your IMEI Number here.
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Yes, but the point is the 9880 doesn't have band 260 and 261, and up until today I never had 5G in the US on this device.
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Yes, but the point is the 9880 doesn't have band 260 and 261, and up until today I never had 5G in the US on this device.
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It's likely 5G Band N41 anchored to 4G LTE on Band 2. Both of these are functional on the SM-G9980 and utilized by Tmobile.
Can you explain what you mean? I would like to understand better.
I notice there's a developer option called 5G Network Mode (SA + NSA etc). What is that all about?
Wonder why it showed up after the latest update...
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Can you explain what you mean? I would like to understand better.
I notice there's a developer option called 5G Network Mode (SA + NSA etc). What is that all about?
Wonder why it showed up after the latest update...
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NSA anchors the control signaling of 5G Radio Networks to the 4G Core, while the SA scheme connects the 5G Radio directly to the 5G core network, the control signaling does not depend on the 4G network.
It says 5G most of the time now but speeds are essentially the same as 4g in the US. So it isn't real 5G?
OP just got his juices flowing.
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I've noticed significantly better speeds in Chicago.
Have the new 5G UC Icon
rockky said:
I've noticed significantly better speeds in Chicago.
Have the new 5G UC Icon
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On the 9880??? Which device do you have?
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anyone managed to get into and activate it
even with root, we can't use that menu
s10 exynos has crappy signals on t mobile
hoping i could change that
There is no way to change Samsung Exynos Carrier Aggregation. This is EU/Global model and i think it doesn't support CA with US Bands.
You can check supported bands and CA support when you collect log from your device: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g-supported-ca-combinations-from-your-android-phone/ . Please share log to https://cacombos.com/contribute then could list bands and combinations supported in US:
I have already some listed here: https://cacombos.com/device?model=SM-G975F but could missing some.
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anyone managed to get into and activate it
even with root, we can't use that menu
s10 exynos has crappy signals on t mobile
hoping i could change that
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I have TMobile and have no signal issues. Even the US unlocked S10 doesn't support carrier aggregation, you'd have to buy the Tmo branded S10. I purposely went out of my way to get a G973F so I can have an unlocked bootloader and root. The only band missing from the G973F for Tmo is band 71 which is only a big deal if you live in rural areas. I'm in Massachusetts and there is no band 71 here at all. Considering the G973F has all the same bands as the G973U besides band 71 I doubt you would be getting any better signal with it unless you're in one of the few remote areas with band 71.
It mostly comes down to what your carrier provides in your area. For example where I am (Western NY) Verizon & AT&T I can get it however with TMobile I can't even get a 4g signal. I had an s9 (g960F) when I tested this and the same is showing for my s10e. I would strongly recommend trying AT&T.
is CA is working on snapdragon model
Hi I have Verizon Pixel 5 and have no 5g nationwide I went down to the US Bank Stadium and got 5g uw and it is fast 1,483- 1,730 mbps down and 86-95 mbps up. but I have tried all over and can not get 5g nationwide just LTE anybody getting 5g ????
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Hi I have Verizon Pixel 5 and have no 5g nationwide I went down to the US Bank Stadium and got 5g uw and it is fast 1,483- 1,730 mbps down and 86-95 mbps up. but I have tried all over and can not get 5g nationwide just LTE anybody getting 5g ????
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If you got uw then you were practically standing on top of it. I've seen 5g on my phone but no huge boost in speed. I get about 65Mbps d/l and 12 u/l.
I have a business account with over 700 lines with verizon and had an in-depth conversation about 5g with my rep as I didn't want employees asking for 5g phone because they hear it was so much faster. I'm glad I did as it is not ready yet for everyone.
She mentioned that ultra is not available in all areas as of now and that standard 5g is being run on top of the LTE network. She did say that standard 5g is a little faster than LTE.
This being said when I see 5g I am seeing up to 150 up and 20 down.
They needed to compete with Tmob and att since they are all doing the same thing and put it on top of LTE until they can have ultra 5g in most areas.
I hope this is helpful info.
Got the update today on my Verizon pixel 5 and I now have 5G Nationwide sure hope the battery life stays the same
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Got the update today on my Verizon pixel 5 and I now have 5G Nationwide sure hope the battery life stays the same
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Nope! 20% less.
shopman59 said:
Got the update today on my Verizon pixel 5 and I now have 5G Nationwide sure hope the battery life stays the same
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After a week on 5g I can definitely see 5g using more battery
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I have a business account with over 700 lines with verizon and had an in-depth conversation about 5g with my rep as I didn't want employees asking for 5g phone because they hear it was so much faster. I'm glad I did as it is not ready yet for everyone.
She mentioned that ultra is not available in all areas as of now and that standard 5g is being run on top of the LTE network. She did say that standard 5g is a little faster than LTE.
This being said when I see 5g I am seeing up to 150 up and 20 down.
They needed to compete with Tmob and att since they are all doing the same thing and put it on top of LTE until they can have ultra 5g in most areas.
I hope this is helpful info.
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I am on AT&T and I get the "5Ge" instead of LTE, which is basically LTE Enhanced.
Please can anyone who knows about cellular bands and sims tell me why my US Unlocked Pixel 4a 5G somehow shows
a 5G signal with a VZN 4G sim? How is that possible? Thanks.
Because there's no such thing as a "4G/5G SIM", your sim card tells network what phone number you are and that's it.
Thanks. I shouldn't have assumed that VZN's enhanced 5G network needed a different sim card.
you might want to consider upgrading to a new SIM - the one you have might work with "non-standalone" 5G, but might not work for standalone 5G. Probably not something you need to do in a hurry, but probably worth considering for future-proofing
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you might want to consider upgrading to a new SIM - the one you have might work with "non-standalone" 5G, but might not work for standalone 5G. Probably not something you need to do in a hurry, but probably worth considering for future-proofing
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This is pretty much flat untrue, the phone holds the antennas capable of getting service from 5g. All the sim does is tell your carrier what phone number you are, if it blocks you from 5g it's because your carrier has you blocked from 5g.
I was blocked from 5g cause I didn't tell my carrier I had a 5g phone now but one phone call and they added "5g access" to my account.
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This is pretty much flat untrue, the phone holds the antennas capable of getting service from 5g. All the sim does is tell your carrier what phone number you are, if it blocks you from 5g it's because your carrier has you blocked from 5g.
I was blocked from 5g cause I didn't tell my carrier I had a 5g phone now but one phone call and they added "5g access" to my account.
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It's not just about radio frequency reception... 5G has encryption and security algorithms that are different to 4G, and newer '5G' SIMS support that. So a 4G SIM that works on 5G now might stop working depending on how VZN implements things in the future. Currently most US network's 5G also requires simultaneous connection to 4G for various aspects of the connection
I bought the unlocked 4A5G on launch day and am a Verizon user. I purposely did this as it was 100 bucks cheaper, and the only difference between the unlocked and VZW specific model is the MMwave antenna (short range, high speed) which is the 5G variant that Verizon has installed at football stadiums and in some city center locations. I don't care about either of those, and didn't care to pay an extra 100 for something I don't care about.
On Google's product page for the unlocked 4A5G, it clearly states that the unlocked version will work on Verizon's sub6 (what they call Nationwide 5G), which shares spectrum (DSS) with the existing 4G/LTE that they use. Its really not much faster than existing 4G/LTE.
This is why you're getting 5G. There is no such thing as a 5G SIM as far as we all know. It all has to do with how Verizon (or any other carrier) provisions your account with the combo of the SIM and IMEI. In my case, I had an older SIM that said 4G/LTE on it (marketing actually), and the phone worked fine, but it was provisioned by Verizon years ago on god knows what phone I had at the time. I did not get 5G with that SIM, but likely could have had it been reprovisioned by Verizon. But it was easier to get a new SIM rather than try and explain it to the Verizon 1st like tech.
I ended up getting another SIM, got with Verizon tech support, they reprovisioned the phone with the new SIM and bang... 5G reception.
Hi All,
I have recently bought an Unlocked US snapdragon version of Galaxy S21 ultra 5g but I live in UK. Since the day 1, I have never experienced 5G icon on notifications area here in London. I only see LTE. My SIM is 5G enabled. Is there any difference between the US snapdragon 888 version and UK Exynos 2100 as I am not seeing this 5G icon.
OR, if someone knows if there is a chance to get benefit of 5G here in London with my US version.
I look forward to getting your answers...
Thanks,
If your version is dual sim, try putting the sim on 2nd sim card slot. Otherwise, I would contact Samsung about it.
I thought the US and UK used different bands and that is why Samsung use the different chipsets based on the countries 5G bands. There is a small overlap in the high bands around 27/28 Ghz but that would depend on the bands you Uk provider uses. That is why they do not recommend buying devices from abroad.
The US unlocked won't get 5G in Europe
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If your version is dual sim, try putting the sim on 2nd sim card slot. Otherwise, I would contact Samsung about it.
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It's a single SIM device...
lywyn said:
I thought the US and UK used different bands and that is why Samsung use the different chipsets based on the countries 5G bands. There is a small overlap in the high bands around 27/28 Ghz but that would depend on the bands you Uk provider uses. That is why they do not recommend buying devices from abroad.
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Does it mean, I will never get a chance to to see 5G icon on my device ? Or I can get the 5G in the future when the 5G rolls out fully in the UK with different bands or frequencies? Please comment on this. Thanks
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Is it for now ? Or I will get a chance to see 5G on my device in future ?
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Does it mean, I will never get a chance to to see 5G icon on my device ? Or I can get the 5G in the future when the 5G rolls out fully in the UK with different bands or frequencies? Please comment on this. Thanks
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It would depend on many things, 1) The SD support your carriers 5G band, 2) the firmware supporting the 5G, 3) your plan with carrier supporting 5G.
(1) and (2) may be supported depending on the carriers bands, you would need to ask your carrier.
(3) for example, previous EE plans do not include 5G in the plan and only if you upgrade to a 5G plan can you connect at 5G. My last phone did not do 5G so the plan was a 4G plan, upgrading the phone meant I had to upgrade the plan.
It's not whether your carrier will add 5G, it's the bands that they add that matter. European 5G bands are not the same as US 5G bands. Samsung doesn't include both in a single version of the s21 (apple does). You either have the US version or the various global versions. I have the HK version. It's a snapdragon like the US (and dual sim) but it only gets 5G in Europe (and HK of course).
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It would depend on many things, 1) The SD support your carriers 5G band, 2) the firmware supporting the 5G, 3) your plan with carrier supporting 5G.
(1) and (2) may be supported depending on the carriers bands, you would need to ask your carrier.
(3) for example, previous EE plans do not include 5G in the plan and only if you upgrade to a 5G plan can you connect at 5G. My last phone did not do 5G so the plan was a 4G plan, upgrading the phone meant I had to upgrade the plan.
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Thanks for the detailed answer. I contacted my carrier which is EE here in the UK. They said we are running different bands of 5G as compared to the US 5G bands.
And they confirmed that my plan is 5G enabled...
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It's not whether your carrier will add 5G, it's the bands that they add that matter. European 5G bands are not the same as US 5G bands. Samsung doesn't include both in a single version of the s21 (apple does). You either have the US version or the various global versions. I have the HK version. It's a snapdragon like the US (and dual sim) but it only gets 5G in Europe (and HK of course).
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Hi, Thanks for your reply, I contacted them, and Yes, they said we are running different 5G bands here in UK as compared to US 5G bands and your US version supports the bands currently US carriers are providing in the US.
So, it means, when they (EE UK) add more 5G bands in their service like more frequencies of 5G then I can get the benefit of my 5G Snapdragon US version in the UK ???
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The US unlocked won't get 5G in Europe
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@ekerbuddyeker I hope you're okay. Could you specify the technicality(s) why it won't work?
@ekerbuddyeker I hope you're okay. Could you specify the technicality(s) why it won't work?
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I hope you're okay. Could you specify the technicality(s) why it won't work?
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it's set up to receive a different set frequencies than are mostly used in Europe as others have said.
Hey. Ignore the incorrect advice from both your carrier and other users here.
Your S21 from the US includes band n78 support even though it isn't advertised.
You just need to enable it and remove the NR whitelist.
You can do it through the service menu (access through Google Dialer).
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it's set up to receive a different set frequencies than are mostly used in Europe as others have said.
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Yep. We know. I mean do you know which frequency the US version is missing that is required in UK?
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Hey. Ignore the incorrect advice from both your carrier and other users here.
Your S21 from the US includes band n78 support even though it isn't advertised.
You just need to enable it and remove the NR whitelist.
You can do it through the service menu (access through Google Dialer).
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The service menu was unfortunately disabled on the US versions many months ago...
*Edit* - To clarify this, I'm sure that the code is probably the same as before, however, when you type it in on the US phones (using Google Phone, of course), the number instantly deletes itself and doesn't allow the menu to open. This was either just before or after launch (I can't remember which one as I had a Note 20 Ultra and exchanged it for this phone just after it released). But just before I did the phone exchange, all of a sudden, I couldn't access that service menu anymore on my Note 20U as it had just been blocked on the US phones. Furthermore, both of my phones were unlocked, and so it doesn't seem to be a carrier dependent thing =(
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The service menu was unfortunately disabled on the US versions many months ago...
*Edit* - To clarify this, I'm sure that the code is probably the same as before, however, when you type it in on the US phones, the number instantly deletes itself and doesn't allow the menu to open.
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Not really true. Just add a 2 at the end of the old code, click the first menu option, then 3 dot, back. Click the first option, and again, 3 menu, back. And now you've got the old service menu back.
We still have QPST access to if they ever block that second code
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Hi, Thanks for your reply, I contacted them, and Yes, they said we are running different 5G bands here in UK as compared to US 5G bands and your US version supports the bands currently US carriers are providing in the US.
So, it means, when they (EE UK) add more 5G bands in their service like more frequencies of 5G then I can get the benefit of my 5G Snapdragon US version in the UK ???
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Only if they add the specific US bands, which is as likely as the UK Ministry of Transport regulating that the UK will start driving on the left to be in line with the US, but phasing it in, and starting only with Heavy Goods Vehicles first.
Hello Xiaomi community, I am using my Mi 11 ultra(Chinese - yet to flash EU rom) on T-mobile in US. I have a oneplus 8T as well which is connected to the same network. When I test these two mobiles, which are connected to HSDPA right next to each other, I get 40mbps download speeds on Oneplus 8t but only 10mbps on mi 11 ultra. Is mi 11 ultra or MiUi limiting the network bandwidth? Are there any settings that I can adjust to see the same speeds? Both seem to be connected on Band 2. Appreciate any help with this. @olkitu, please comment.
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Hello Xiaomi community, I am using my Mi 11 ultra(Chinese - yet to flash EU rom) on T-mobile in US. I have a oneplus 8T as well which is connected to the same network. When I test these two mobiles, which are connected to HSDPA right next to each other, I get 40mbps download speeds on Oneplus 8t but only 10mbps on mi 11 ultra. Is mi 11 ultra or MiUi limiting the network bandwidth? Are there any settings that I can adjust to see the same speeds? Both seem to be connected on Band 2. Appreciate any help with this. @olkitu, please comment.
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Thank you for the info @avetny . I have checked both the mobiles and here is what I see. Oneplus 8t mostly connected to LTE, and Mi 11 ultra switching between EDGE, HSPA and if I force the setting to NR/LTE only, it shows LTE but can't browse anything and no data connection at all. Am I missing something? Also am sitting right next to the TMobile 4g LTE personal cell booster box with both these mobiles
This is when mi 11 on EDGE n/w
This is when mi 11 on LTE (with 20mbps download speed)
This is oneplus 8t mostly connected to LTE with 60 to 100mbps download speeds
Restart device
When I get into that menu and I change the network type the setting doesn't stick,why?
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Restart device
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Tried with various settings few times. Am not sure why the connection stability is low and always switching from EDGE to HSPA to LTE where as oneplus rarely shows me HSDPA. I have a 4G LTE T mobile cell spot sitting right next to me.
In terms of the modem Mi 11 ultra has X60 where as oneplus 8t has X55
Check again settings.
Make sure 5G is preferred.
Make sure 5G Smart Switch is off.
This make help too: 5G battery saver is off.
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Hello Xiaomi community, I am using my Mi 11 ultra(Chinese - yet to flash EU rom) on T-mobile in US. I have a oneplus 8T as well which is connected to the same network. When I test these two mobiles, which are connected to HSDPA right next to each other, I get 40mbps download speeds on Oneplus 8t but only 10mbps on mi 11 ultra. Is mi 11 ultra or MiUi limiting the network bandwidth? Are there any settings that I can adjust to see the same speeds? Both seem to be connected on Band 2. Appreciate any help with this. @olkitu, please comment.
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Well Xiaomi do not support Carrier Aggregation combinations and 5G used in US. Maybe SA only n41 could work but it's by default disabled outside from China.
OnePlus 8T is US model? You should buy device from your own region to avoid issues. As you know you can check on https://cacombos.com website supported bands and carrier aggregation combinations of devices. Make sure it support Carrier Aggregation combinations your carrier use on your area.
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Well Xiaomi do not support Carrier Aggregation combinations and 5G used in US. Maybe SA only n41 could work but it's by default disabled outside from China.
OnePlus 8T is US model? You should buy device from your own region to avoid issues. As you know you can check on https://cacombos.com website supported bands and carrier aggregation combinations of devices. Make sure it support Carrier Aggregation combinations your carrier use on your area.
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Thank you for the response, would flashing a Global ROM gets me all the Band combos? I understand changing the ROM is not going to get me the missing Band 66 from Chinese version phone, but atleast wondering if I flash, the combos listed on Global version would follow? or ROM flashing will not change any Combos? Thank you.
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Thank you for the response, would flashing a Global ROM gets me all the Band combos? I understand changing the ROM is not going to get me the missing Band 66 from Chinese version phone, but atleast wondering if I flash, the combos listed on Global version would follow? or ROM flashing will not change any Combos? Thank you.
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Try the global or Eu ROM
The China one is full of headaches outside china
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Try the global or Eu ROM
The China one is full of headaches outside china
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Am trying NetMonster to see which cell tower and band(s) its connecting and if its using any combo bands. Typically the combo shows up like - (4G. LTE 1900+ AWS-A). I have not seen a combo so far on this with the Chinese ROM, but not sure if Global/EU ROM makes any difference. Unless the Global/EU ROM deals with Band Combos. Am yet to boot unlock, so could not do a quick try.
Were you able to get better speeds or use NetMonster to see Combo bands with Non Chinese ROM?
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Am trying NetMonster to see which cell tower and band(s) its connecting and if its using any combo bands. Typically the combo shows up like - (4G. LTE 1900+ AWS-A). I have not seen a combo so far on this with the Chinese ROM, but not sure if Global/EU ROM makes any difference. Unless the Global/EU ROM deals with Band Combos. Am yet to boot unlock, so could not do a quick try.
Were you able to get better speeds or use NetMonster to see Combo bands with Non Chinese ROM?
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I had great speeds on every ROM but In my city they only use band 78 for 5G and I get about 250-300mb even without line of sight of the antenna, even I'm a restaurant or a mall it's that fast
i haven't been able to spot a 5G tower yet so I can test one in direct line of sight of it but I've read you can get about 700mb/s
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I had great speeds on every ROM but In my city they only use band 78 for 5G and I get about 250-300mb even without line of sight of the antenna, even I'm a restaurant or a mall it's that fast
i haven't been able to spot a 5G tower yet so I can test one in direct line of sight of it but I've read you can get about 700mb/s
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Wow, that's crazy speed. Never heard of those kind of speeds in US. I wish the phone manufacturers just let the users decide what bands they want to enable in their region if the phone is high-end latest and greatest
Not always but here in london at my place i get 500+Mbps