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Streamfurious update-now fills memory

After running Streamfurious for a few hours today my internal memory is totally full, and Apps manager doesn't have a a "clear cache" option for this app.
I'm using CM 3.6.8.1, with apps to SD. This never happened before this update.
Is there a way to clear out the memory using the Terminal app?
Thanks.

Streamfurious memory issues
I have been happily running StreamFurious Pro on my G1 for several months, with almost no problems. However, in the past couple weeks Streamfurious has been very flaky. It just quits after a few minutes. If I try to restart it more than 2 or 3 times, it crashes. I keep getting low memory messages from the G1. When I review the applications, Streamfurious takes up more than 128 MB! The next closest is about 2.3 MB. Usually the cache is around 25MB. Clearing it does not seem to help at all.
If I don't hear anything or get an update, i looks like I will have to give up on Streamfurious, which is really too bad because it has been a very reliable workhorse up until this month. If this problem is resolved I will post the news.

I saw the same memory-filling behavior a few days ago. It was soon after receiving an update for the free version of StreamFurious. I think this update was a mistake by the dev, since it had the advanced features I assume came from the full pay version. When it ate all my internal memory, I deleted the app and then re-installed from the Market. It was fine after that, though not long after this, the dev posted another update that took away the pay features again. It's been fairly stable since, though maybe a bit more prone to dropping active streams.

I was using the pro version, but it recently stopped working correctly. Is there a way to install an older version?

highvista said:
I saw the same memory-filling behavior a few days ago. It was soon after receiving an update for the free version of StreamFurious. I think this update was a mistake by the dev, since it had the advanced features I assume came from the full pay version. When it ate all my internal memory, I deleted the app and then re-installed from the Market. It was fine after that, though not long after this, the dev posted another update that took away the pay features again. It's been fairly stable since, though maybe a bit more prone to dropping active streams.
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Thanks highvista - uninstalling and reinstalling did help. Still, Streamfurious is nothing like it used to be. Now it is always dropping the stream. I am definitely looking for a replacement to Streamfurious. Anyone know a good one that I can use with custom URL's (one of my main stations is Radio Swiss Classic)http://www.radioswissclassic.ch/en/webradio

I used streamfurious a long time. Im having the same issues and reached the point of uninstalling it.
Someone on the market (under the streamfurious comments, of all things) suggested "Cherry Rplayer". Its free.
Ive only had Cherry Rplayer a day or so, but I can tell you from what I have seen so far it has none of the streamfurious issues.
Blade

Blade10,
Thanks for the recommendation for Cherry Rplayer. I will reserve final judgement until after several days of testing, but so far, so good. It appears to be vastly superior to Streamfurious. Not a single dropout. And it works perfectly with custom URLs and AAC, two of my most important requirements. Thanks again for jumping in and letting me know.

The author released a new version of streamfurious last night that supposedly reverts back to the old streaming engine. I haven't tried it yet to confirm.

5spot said:
The author released a new version of streamfurious last night that supposedly reverts back to the old streaming engine. I haven't tried it yet to confirm.
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Seemed to solve the memory issues. Works great for me

But the old Streamfurious didn't support AAC, so why go back to that? Plus I'm still more than a little irked that they would put out such a piece of untested junk.

Need help solving an issue, play store misbehaving on my SM-T810

Hello, I hope I can post this here.. i tried, i searched... can't find any solution to my issue.
Model : SM-T810 , with Samsung 128GB UHS microSD. OS : stock Nougat from Samsung.
Here is the problem :
On the play store, if there are pending updates, they only install one at a time, and then it won't do more. Like if there is 5 pending updates, it will maybe do one, and then the other 4 stay pending. It might only do the download portion of the first one and not go to the install phase. If there's no pending updates, and i try to install an app, only the downloading portion of the process shows up, it stops after that, it doesn't go to installing. I have to close the store and go back in for it to install, but if there's a queue of downloads (updates or asked to install multiple apps), I have to close the store for the same amount of apps in the queue for them to install one by one. Now I noticed that every once and a while, 2 or 3 will have updated overnight but that's it!
I closed the process, I cleared the cache, I cleared the data, I cleared the download manager's data and cache, i rebooted, i forced a wrong date and time then set it to auto-date and time to retry, etc.... I uninstalled the Play Store updates, nothing worked!!!
The next step was to do a factory reset. I did not want to lose some progress on some games, AND I have an app to read PDF files and did not want to lose read/unread status of my files...
So I used Odin to flash TWRP, did a backup, rooted, used Titanium Backup to backup my apps.
Then I did factory reset. Store behaved normally again! Installed a few apps, waited a few hours, still good. Did a restore of my apps from titanium backup, everything seemed fine, then a few hours later, store still was not updating or installing the apps right...
Did another factory reset, store worked fine, only restored a couple of backed up apps (the critical ones that i wanted to keep the saves from), everything worked fine. Over the course of 24 hrs, i re-installed a bunch of my regular apps via the play store. Play store worked fine. I did to another Nandroid backup with TWRP just in case.
Then all of a sudden, it started to lag a bit between clicking install, to downloading, to installing. And then a few hours later, issue completely came back, store won't install without me closing it between the download finish and install.
Now one of the last steps I did before it started acting up again was moving ONE app to the SD card (not using any root features). I'm not sure if that caused the issue to come back.
I did notice that Android left a bunch of files on my SD card, some Android folder, with a bunch of subfolders.
I'm wondering if the SD card could be the culprit... I will do one last restore from my last working Nandroid backup and not move anything to the SD card.
If it comes up again, i think i will move the data that i have on my SD card that I dont want to loose (my PDF, pictures, etc.) on to my NAS, and do a factory reset without the SD card installed. Maybe even re-flash with Samsung Kies... and forget about my Titanium Backup saves...
It's my last resort so I was hoping anyone would have any idea on what else to try before doing that?
One last point : yes the stores kinda slows down at some point where the download process takes a few seconds to kick in, and then a few seconds to installing, up to the point where it never does. BUT the rest of my tablet still is really fast, no slow downs anywhere else... All apps launch fast
Thanks!

Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.

Niii4 said:
Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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Auto updates of the apps? Or the OS?
Apps i can see... but still... If I turn that off, that solves the issue of the auto-updates. But then if I want to update a bunch, they will only do one by one, i have to close the store and open again after each updated app.
But even with app auto-updates, if i want to install one new app on my S2, it will only download, but not install, i have to close the store and open it again for it to install. Then the next time that I want to install an app, I have to do the same thing again, close and open. It's like the download manager doesn't tell the Play Store app to do the install (or tell whatever app or service to install the APK...)

Niii4 said:
Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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What a bunch of nonsense. Please stop spreading misinformation.
@stefer09 A logcat reader may help you determine the cause of the issue.

Niii4 said:
Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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fonetyk said:
What a bunch of nonsense. Please stop spreading misinformation.
@stefer09 A logcat reader may help you determine the cause of the issue.
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Thanks, that's new for me, I'll read into it!

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Thanks, that's new for me, I'll read into it!
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I am having the same issue on my sm-t810 as well hope you find a solution and post it.

Tabpro8.4 said:
I am having the same issue on my sm-t810 as well hope you find a solution and post it.
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After more research i've seen other people on other devices with same issue... no answer or solution in sight
if i find something ill come back here for sure

I had an OTA update last night to NRD90M.T810XXU2DQCL and the play store is working better now but it is still slow to update.

Tabpro8.4 said:
I had an OTA update last night to NRD90M.T810XXU2DQCL and the play store is working better now but it is still slow to update.
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Thanks for the info.
I would check for OTA update but since i rooted mine, it won't do them...
I'd have to flash the stock rom from samsung again and loose my saved data... which right now i might be OK living without...
Anyone knows if I loose TWRP if i flash a stock rom with odin ? If so... am i better using Kies?

Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.

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Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
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Wooooh, DON'T jump to conclusions here.
I was running the STOCK out of the box Android for the S2, no root, no TWRP. The issue started after one year of usage, and not only included updating apps but installing FRESH NEW ONES TOO.
The "flash this and that" came AFTER i ran into issues.
I also have a Note 5 supplied from work and for that reason I'm still runing stock, not rooted, and never will root it. I have over 100 apps on there, 5 email accounts (2 professionnal, 3 personnal), multiple google calendars, multiple outlook calendars, auto-update is on, it's been over a year and a half, if not more, and never ran into this kind of issue, ever! It's synced with my CPAP, my smart watch, and my headphones. And it's still goes the same speed and gives me the same performance as when i took it out of the box.
My tab S2 is my second Android tablet, before I had a Tab 3 that never gave me issues like that either, and always had auto-updates on.
Sometimes you need updates. Some online services might not work right or at all if you don't have the app that matches the features, like evernote, facebook, onedrive, dropbox, etc...
Or you get new hardware that requires an update.
Yes sometimes they include bugs ... which are fixed in a later version.

Niii4 said:
Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
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In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.

Tabpro8.4 said:
In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.
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I saw multiple posts of people having different phones running stock having this exact issue for a while with no solution in view. I think it has to do with Nougat too... But my Note 5 is on Nougat and no issue... it might be brought on with specific services or apps running while on Nougat.

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In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.
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Thanks for letting me know about the OTA update. Since i was rooted, i can't get OTA updates, would have needed to wait for the 7.1 Rom to flash...
I ended up taking screenshots of the stuff i didnt want to loose (read/unread status of my pdf files, nevermind the save games) and then i used Samsung Smart Switch to reflash the whole thing back to strictly stock, lastest firmware. So far so good, crossing fingers

I*was*running the STOCK out of the box Android for the S2, no root, no TWRP. The issue started after one year of usage,
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Fair. So in this *year of usage* you never ever updated the OS?
And auto-update was of course *off*, right?
If that's the case, then clearly there must be some other issue with your s2.
Otherwise, you have merely confirmed what I have told in the very beginning: updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
By the by, apps like evernote and facebook track and spy on you.
About your Note 5, maybe there weren't so many updates..

Niii4 said:
Fair. So in this *year of usage* you never ever updated the OS?
And auto-update was of course *off*, right?
If that's the case, then clearly there must be some other issue with your s2.
Otherwise, you have merely confirmed what I have told in the very beginning: updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
By the by, apps like evernote and facebook track and spy on you.
About your Note 5, maybe there weren't so many updates..
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Yes in that year of usage I upgraded the OS from 5 to 6 to 7. Yes auto-update was on, for Android and for my apps. By stock rom i meant nothing flashed "this and that" like you said.
If you would read my other comments, you'd also realize that another member helped me more by letting me know there was an OTA update that helped him. I reflashed my S2 with Samsung Smart Switch and haven't had any issue with the Play Store since... that proves that updates do fix issues.
There's no OS versions, app versions, firmware versions on any devices that don't have any issues whatsoever. Updates might bring bugs but they also fix the ones from previous versions. If you think that anything stock out of the box never have any issues whatsoever, you're wrong.
Apps like evernote and facebook spy and track you? Really? And you're on a forum for Android based product and don't think that Google tracks what you do? If you dont sign in with your google account and only browse the web with your tablet, that's your business, but you can't go on forums and admonish people for doing otherwise.
Besides, this is a forum where a good part of the posts are about custom roms, flashing different boot/recovery loaders, different kernels, unlocking phones... and you're judging me because i do app updates, and flash "this and that" ?
Come on...

No judging here. Just pointed out the probem at hand.
You did update the OS at least twice.. see?
OEM updates = bad in general.
Sure, new updates fix what *previous updates* screwed up to begin with; sometimes.
I totally agree that there is no OS version that is 100% issue free, but -- why trying to fix something that seems to work?
You see, that is my whole point.
I told you about evernote and facebook because you mentioned to have them on your Note 5 which happens to be your professional work phone?!
Just be aware that Evernote steals content just like the FB messenger. And I mean literally. Your creative ideas become their property. You did agree to their terms! FB also records the mic(s) 24/7.
Certainly Google tracks and spies as well. Then again, you can deactivate or block (firewall) those services/apps.
Just remember, things that are *free* come with a price.

Niii4, I tried to subtely pass the message that I did not want any of your help when I said that SOMEONE ELSE helped me with their input and update.
I didn't say that I was using evernote and facebook on my Note 5 from work. Jumping to conclusions again.
You want to know what are the biggest secrets in my Evernote notes ??? RECIPES!!!!!
Oh no... they can read the oh so secret lemon crinkle cookies recipe that is available with a quick online search! Here's the link btw : http://www.laurenslatest.com/lemon-crinkle-cookies/
I came here after trying a lot of troubleshooting steps, when everything that I've tried failed. And someone else helped me.
All you brought to the table was misinformation about updates in general and spread paranoia on who is spying on who.
fonetyk asked you to stop that, and I asked you to stop that. So far my issue has been resolved and i'm thankful to the user Tabpro8.4 for his comment.
Please, please leave my thread.

First and foremost, this is a forum and thus other users that may encounter similar or the exact same problem(s) will seek to comprehend the whole issue at hand and not just one side of a problem.
Oh yeah, an OTA update seemed to have fixed it. Seemed.. for now.
Second, this is not exclusively about *helping you*. Apparently you are quite knowledge resistant, especially when facts are being stated that don't conform your general view.
True, you only have hundreds of apps on your work phone. But definitely not FB messenger or whatnot. Whatever. What's right is right, and what's fair is fair.
I suppose, you are probably right, the work you do must be of no interest for anybody in this world; at all. Same for your private life. Now, be a neat little sheep and go on chewing the green.. (while we are watching you).
Oh, and you stalking all my comments, telling people to ignore me is hilarious. Keep up the great whine. ?

Niii4 said:
First and foremost, this is a forum and thus other users that may encounter similiar or the exact same problem(s) will seek to comprehend the whole issue at hand and not just one side of a problem.
Oh yeah, an OTA update seemed to have fixed it. Seemed.. for now.
Second, this is not exclusively about *helping you*. Apparently you are quite knowledge resistant, especially when facts are being stated that don't conform your general view.
True, you only have hundreds of apps on your work phone. But definitely not FB messenger or whatnot. Whatever. What's right is right, and what's fair is fair.
I suppose, you are probably right, the work you do must be of no interest for anybody in this world; at all. Same for your private life. Now, be a neat little sheep and go on chewing the green.. (while we are watching you).
Oh, and you stalking all my comments, telling people to ignore me is hilarious. Keep up the great whine.
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Lol... knowledge resistant. Thats cute.
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Stalking your comments... ah! Maybe you got that dead pixel from trying to plug your bluray player on your tablet. Seriously clueless or just trolling...
My issue is resolved so im unsubbing from this thread.
Bye bye :good:

Oreo vs Pie - a few questions

Morning folks,
Had my Note 9 a few weeks now. Quite happy with it, and haven't updated from stock oreo yet.
Now that people have had a chance to tweak and play with Pie, I have a few questions -
1) how does battery life compare?
2) are you still able to remap the Bixby button? Currently using bxactions.
3) is split screen still available?
4) what functions have been lost, if any?
5) start functions have been gained, if any?
Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers for now,
John

There are threads here already about Pie in general (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792) and about your specific questions (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-battery-life-experience-t3895668).

Jwsail said:
Morning folks,
Had my Note 9 a few weeks now. Quite happy with it, and haven't updated from stock oreo yet.
Now that people have had a chance to tweak and play with Pie, I have a few questions -
1) how does battery life compare?
2) are you still able to remap the Bixby button? Currently using bxactions.
3) is split screen still available?
4) what functions have been lost, if any?
5) start functions have been gained, if any?
Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers for now,
John
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I can give you Information about my device with my personal using, but remember things can be diffrent from device to device and User to user.
1. Battery getting better and better. Atm i get 2.5 Days runtime with 6 h SoT
2. I guess yes. My bixbyremapper ist working fine so far..
3. You mean this app paring that you can use 2 apps together at the screen ? Then yes *Edit* maybe im too stupid but i cant find this function anymore?! ? Strange..
4. Wifi WPS for example.. more i dont know.
5. Hm my Bad english. Dont understand what you mean. I will translate and edit Posting later okay ?

Gary02468 said:
There are threads here already about Pie in general (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792) and about your specific questions (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-battery-life-experience-t3895668).
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Thanks Gary. I've had a look at these and they don't what to have been added to for a few months. Maybe they were for the beta?
John

Treasarion said:
I can give you Information about my device with my personal using, but remember things can be diffrent from device to device and User to user.
1. Battery getting better and better. Atm i get 2.5 Days runtime with 6 h SoT
2. I guess yes. My bixbyremapper ist working fine so far..
3. You mean this app paring that you can use 2 apps together at the screen ? Then yes *Edit* maybe im too stupid but i cant find this function anymore?! ? Strange..
4. Wifi WPS for example.. more i dont know.
5. Hm my Bad english. Dont understand what you mean. I will translate and edit Posting later okay ?
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Thanks for that. I'll keep looking into it.
Cheers for now,
John

Jwsail said:
Thanks Gary. I've had a look at these and they don't what to have been added to for a few months. Maybe they were for the beta?
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No, they're post-beta. Android Pie started distributing to US Note9s in January.
One big problem if you haven't updated yet is that your phone may be exposed to several critical remote-takeover vulnerabilities that have been fixed during the past few months.

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No, they're post-beta. Android Pie started distributing to US Note9s in January.
One big problem if you haven't updated yet is that your phone may be exposed to several critical remote-takeover vulnerabilities that have been fixed during the past few months.
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I find the new security update really interesting.
Remote takeover? I just wonder who why and how this could be done? I just dont get it

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Remote takeover? I just wonder who why and how this could be done? I just dont get it
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There's plenty of introductory material online that explains how security vulnerabilities work. Also, Google and Samsung publish monthly descriptions of the vulnerabilities they fix.
Remote-takeover vulnerabilities allow others anywhere in the world to monitor and record everything you type on your phone (including account credentials) and everything you read, see, and hear on your phone. Attackers can read, write, delete, or modify any information or media stored on your phone, or send messages from you to your contacts or to others. They can track your location and turn on your microphone and cameras.
You don't have to be singled out. Many attacks these days are automated and unleashed on millions of target devices. Large international crime organizations increasingly carry out such attacks. The most common reason is theft, but blackmail is also a growing concern. Or attackers can use your phone as a distribution center for material that they don't want traced to them.

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There's plenty of introductory material online that explains how security vulnerabilities work. Also, Google and Samsung publish monthly descriptions of the vulnerabilities they fix.
Remote-takeover vulnerabilities allow others anywhere in the world to monitor and record everything you type on your phone (including account credentials) and everything you read, see, and hear on your phone. Attackers can read, write, delete, or modify any information or media stored on your phone, or send messages from you to your contacts or to others. They can track your location and turn on your microphone and cameras.
You don't have to be singled out. Many attacks these days are automated and unleashed on millions of target devices. Large international crime organizations increasingly carry out such attacks. The most common reason is theft, but blackmail is also a growing concern. Or attackers can use your phone as a distribution center for material that they don't want traced to them.
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Is there actually any proof that this has happened?

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Is there actually any proof that this has happened?
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There's proof that some of it has happened and that all of it is easily accomplished using known exploits. What you do about it is a tradeoff, similar to home-security issues. You can leave your front door unlocked and probably not get robbed; or you can use locks, alarms etc. and possibly still get robbed. The tighter your security, the less likely it is for there to be a breach; but tighter security comes at a cost (money, convenience, etc.). So you need to weigh what you stand to lose against what you stand to gain, and that depends on individual circumstances.

Call recording and Swift installer support. Two biggest reasons for staying on Oreo for me.

This update is so bad I can only compare it to Windows ME & Vista. I downgraded thanking God because my bootloader stayed in v1.0.

It really seems like the Note 9 hardware is not built for this One UI Pie.

I'm sorry to be reading all this dislike of the Pie+OneUI update. I just bought the Note9 and really wanted to go straight to Pie+OneUI because of themes and because by now Pie should be in good shape--after all, Android 9 is a year old and has been rolled out to this device for three months? My note has been turned on for about 30 minutes, and I'm applying OS updates as I type. How bad can it possibly be?

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I'm sorry to be reading all this dislike of the Pie+OneUI update. I just bought the Note9 and really wanted to go straight to Pie+OneUI because of themes and because by now Pie should be in good shape--after all, Android 9 is a year old and has been rolled out to this device for three months? My note has been turned on for about 30 minutes, and I'm applying OS updates as I type. How bad can it possibly be?
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Just do the updates to the OS and then factory reset device.
Good as Gold from there on

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Just do the updates to the OS and then factory reset device.
Good as Gold from there on
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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!

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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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In your case you don't need a factory reset, you updated your device straight out of the box which is just as good as a clean install. A factory reset sometimes helps users who have been running apps for a while on the previous version, and restoring user data causes system instability due to the OS major upgrade.
Also, I've done exactly the same thing 3 months ago, and haven't had a single issue [emoji846]
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gruuvin said:
Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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You won't have an issue as you had a new phone with no previous data on it.
Ps of you factory reset a device it won't go back to the OS version it came out of the box. It will remain on the latest version of the update.

Updated to Pie immediately after turning on the Note 9 for the first time, then installed my apps, then installed my sim. This is THE SMOOTHEST, best OS, best battery efficiency, best looking.....
..... it's the best!

is the note 9 Pie's camera quality improved? Still staying on Oreo for months as I have not ever heard of praises for improved cameras and still some users need to install GCam but seems note 9 Pie does not support GCam ?

Question Issue since updating - whatsapp & android auto

Just updated my s21ultra last week. Android 13
Since updating im having the following issue.
Usually if ive just taken a photo or downloaded a image online. When in the process of sending it to a contact in whatsapp 'pressing the camera symbol in a chat' ..the image ive just downloaded use to appear first.
For some reason this is no longer the case...how can this be resolved???

Check permissions. Try clearing the cache or data. Clear system cache on the boot menu.
It might be on WhatsApp end, not up to speed.
It's never a good idea to load any social media apps on the device. Access them through browser login only. WhatsApp, FB, Tiktok are some of the worst. Invasive at best, outright malware at worst.
Always a ongoing security risk.

Thanks this resolved the issue..
I also have another issue..
Android auto - when plugging into my ford via usb, its stating usb not responding/detected on my ford screen. It was working fine prior to updating.
Some sort of setting blocking me out?

Jayar10 said:
Thanks this resolved the issue..
I also have another issue..
Android auto - when plugging into my ford via usb, its stating usb not responding/detected on my ford screen. It was working fine prior to updating.
Some sort of setting blocking me out?
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What resolved it?
No idea but again it's likely a setting or another needed future update. Trust me there'll be more.
Was it worth all this trouble? Although 12 is no gem either.
This one reason I run N10+'s and don't go higher than Android 10; both Samsung and Google been putting out subpar products now for at least 3 design cycles. Google continues to use scare tactics about security to the point where they are crippling the devices and usability. I see no end to this hype rather than performance driven marketing from both these corporations.

blackhawk said:
What resolved it?
No idea but again it's likely a setting or another needed future update. Trust me there'll be more.
Was it worth all this trouble? Although 12 is no gem either.
This one reason I run N10+'s and don't go higher than Android 10; both Samsung and Google been putting out subpar products now for at least 3 design cycles. Google continues to use scare tactics about security to the point where they are crippling the devices and usability. I see no end to this hype rather than performance driven marketing from both these corporations.
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Photos permissions was blocked for whatsapp...
No idea why my android auto isnt working!??

Jayar10 said:
Photos permissions was blocked for whatsapp...
No idea why my android auto isnt working!??
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Afraid not. I never used that app. If it really irritates you and you can't work it out, you can probably roll it back to 12. Try some Google searches include older OS versions and models too. Many issues go back years. Start pouring over the new OS settings; you'll need to anyway.
It helps to have a backup phone.
I got a twin mostly for if this one is down for repairs but also because I committed to using the N10+for another 2-3+ years. I can't depend on either Samsung or Google to be reliable with their product releases anymore so I took control. No more bs.

Downgrading S20 FE 5G SM-G780G Android 13 One Ui 5.1 to Android 11

hello
i've never downgraded/flashed any firmware on this device before, so before i do something that might be fatal/result in bricking my phone i would like to ask is it possible to downgrade a S20 FE android 13 to android 11? while my one ui version is 5.1 i haven't updated the security patch to the april one (the one that changes your binary) it's currently the 1 march 2023 one
i've already checked & downloaded a firmware with the correct binary number so now all i need to do is flash it

Welcome to XDA.
You're limited by the bootloader version to how far you can roll it back. If the bootloader was upgraded too, you're boned. The 5th digit from the rear is the significant digit that determines that. If the rom's 5th digit is the same or higher value you can flash it. If lower, no go.

kiyan_ said:
hello
i've never downgraded/flashed any firmware on this device before, so before i do something that might be fatal/result in bricking my phone i would like to ask is it possible to downgrade a S20 FE android 13 to android 11? while my one ui version is 5.1 i haven't updated the security patch to the april one (the one that changes your binary) it's currently the 1 march 2023 one
i've already checked & downloaded a firmware with the correct binary number so now all i need to do is flash it
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Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage

rgrapow said:
Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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Hello
This will depend on your variant.
on the G780G (binary 3) and G781B (binary 4)
You can download to android 11.
since it has the same binary.
Of course, you should do it from 0.
do not install via CSC_HOME.
The installation must be clean.
before all make backup.

blackhawk said:
Welcome to XDA.
You're limited by the bootloader version to how far you can roll it back. If the bootloader was upgraded too, you're boned. The 5th digit from the rear is the significant digit that determines that. If the rom's 5th digit is the same or higher value you can flash it. If lower, no go.
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yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?

rgrapow said:
Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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thank you for your answer & sharing your experience, this is what i've been looking for

kiyan_ said:
yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?
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since it has the same binary.
Of course, you should do it from 0.
do not install via CSC_HOME.
The installation must be clean.
before all make backup.

rgrapow said:
the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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Or if the battery has insufficient charge or capacity. Any time you flash a device you take some level of risk. A power outage with no or insufficient battery backup for the PC would also end badly.
The risk is also greater with Androids because it's not a small couple dozen MB flash that's done in seconds. Lots more time and data for things to go wrong. If my Canon pro cam had a bad flash, Canon would likely repair for free or a reasonable charge. Samsung will do neither of these... repair cost plus a new mobo loaded with the latest firmware. perfect.

mezacorleehone said:
on the G780G (binary 3)
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yes that is my phone variant
mezacorleehone said:
do not install via CSC_HOME.
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may i ask why is that?

kiyan_ said:
yes that is my phone variant
may i ask why is that?
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the CSC_HOME file
comes in the software you just downloaded.
unlike normal CSC.
The CSC_HOME is used to only update the system, without deleting anything.
in your case you are going to downgrade, use the normal CSC without _home.

thank you everyone for the help & answers

kiyan_ said:
thank you everyone for the help & answers
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You are welcome.
where possible we collaborate.

blackhawk said:
Or if the battery has insufficient charge or capacity. Any time you flash a device you take some level of risk. A power outage with no or insufficient battery backup for the PC would also end badly.
The risk is also greater with Androids because it's not a small couple dozen MB flash that's done in seconds. Lots more time and data for things to go wrong. If my Canon pro cam had a bad flash, Canon would likely repair for free or a reasonable charge. Samsung will do neither of these... repair cost plus a new mobo loaded with the latest firmware. perfect.
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I'm referring about samsung devices based on my experience (trial and error), I had a lot of bricks, soft bricks and I was able to solve it with odin.

kiyan_ said:
yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?
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Yes, exactly. Why do you want to roll it back?
If it's a specific issue finding a work around may be easier.
Android 11 is no picnic either. I prefer Pie, Android 10 is ok; I'm running both and will likely never upgrade them.
Regardless you will need to lock it down so it can't do OTA upgrades/updates. That's the first thing I do on my Samsung's... once bitten, twice shy Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.

blackhawk said:
Yes, exactly. Why do you want to roll it back?
If it's a specific issue finding a work around may be easier.
Android 11 is no picnic either. I prefer Pie, Android 10 is ok; I'm running both and will likely never upgrade them.
Regardless you will need to lock it down so it can't do OTA upgrades/updates. That's the first thing I do on my Samsung's... once bitten, twice shy Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.
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other than battery run out faster & the phone feeling a bit sluggish nothing specific....it's just i've already debloated my phone & disabled many features of the phone that i dont use and dont plan on updating my phone anymore and while that does help improve things quite significantly i just thought at this point why dont i just might aswell downgrade the phone
before i had this phone i was fine staying years with a phone that stopped receiving updates after android 6 lol just that it eventually ran its course and after several hardware problems & the phone giving up by itself (every 3 weeks or so it'll get stuck on bootloop for no reason) i assume it was time for me to buy a new one...too bad

rgrapow said:
I'm referring about samsung devices based on my experience (trial and error), I had a lot of bricks, soft bricks and I was able to solve it with odin.
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I'm glad that's working well for you. I use to always be playing with my PC's like that. With Androids I took a more conservative approach; less down time, more play time.
I leave the firmware be on my 2 stock N10+'s. They run very good, fulfill their mission and it's simply not worth the risk or time. I don't allow firmware upgrades or updates. This N10+ in my hand is still running on Pie, firmware is 3.5 yo, and the current load will be 3 yo this June. No malware in all that time; security isn't an issue. Still fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. It's also heavily optimized and running well; I have zero incentive to change the playing field by altering the firmware.
My SQlite scores are lower than they should be in spite of my fast disk r/w scores so eventually I may do a factory reset to try to resolve that. Lol, that's the full extent of my ambition at the moment.

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Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.
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yep. i learned the hard way
i'm quite green at this stuff and at first i just thought "more upgrades & updates means good! i should get the most out of this device" but alas after some serious overheating & battery draining problems over loads of features i dont even use.....

kiyan_ said:
other than battery run out faster & the phone feeling a bit sluggish nothing specific....it's just i've already debloated my phone & disabled many features of the phone that i dont use and dont plan on updating my phone anymore and while that does help improve things quite significantly i just thought at this point why dont i just might aswell downgrade the phone
before i had this phone i was fine staying years with a phone that stopped receiving updates after android 6 lol just that it eventually ran its course and after several hardware problems & the phone giving up by itself (every 3 weeks or so it'll get stuck on bootloop for no reason) i assume it was time for me to buy a new one...too bad
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Anything below Android 9 is suspectable to partition worming nasties like Xhelper. Run Android 9 or higher. Android 9 is relatively secure unless you do stupid things.
All Samsung's should be optimized. You will still have scoped storage running on Android 11 anyway. If you don't mind the UI of Android 13 I would try to find what's causing the issues.
Disable global power management then go after the power hogs on an individual case by case basis. A logging firewall is useful in finding them. Cloud, and social media apps are prime offenders. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps; Google backup Transport, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies of it. Enable as needed. 5G can also suck a lot of power and is inefficient when doing small bandwidth transfers. Wifi isn't needed if you have an unlimited data plan. Use Package Disabler or abd/ladb edits to take out the really problem apps that can't be resolved in settings. Don't go too nuts though; target the hogs and totally worthless apps like Digital Wellbeing. Most of the dozens a small Samsung system apps are best left alone as many modify the UI and consume very little resources. Understand what the app does and it's dependencies if any before disabling whenever possible.
Play with it...

blackhawk said:
Anything below Android 9 is suspectable to partition worming nasties like Xhelper. Run Android 9 or higher. Android 9 is relatively secure unless you do stupid things.
All Samsung's should be optimized. You will still have scoped storage running on Android 11 anyway. If you don't mind the UI of Android 13 I would try to find what's causing the issues.
Disable global power management then go after the power hogs on an individual case by case basis. A logging firewall is useful in finding them. Cloud, and social media apps are prime offenders. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps; Google backup Transport, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies of it. Enable as needed. 5G can also suck a lot of power and is inefficient when doing small bandwidth transfers. Wifi isn't needed if you have an unlimited data plan. Use Package Disabler or abd/ladb edits to take out the really problem apps that can't be resolved in settings. Don't go too nuts though; target the hogs and totally worthless apps like Digital Wellbeing. Most of the dozens a small Samsung system apps are best left alone as many modify the UI and consume very little resources. Understand what the app does and it's dependencies if any before disabling whenever possible.
Play with it...
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i've done all that hahahah
other than youtube i don't have any other social media apps installed and i've already got rid of chrome & switched to a lighter browser
yep i like to experiment, i suppose the flashing stuff is the next step after all of that (yes have tried factory reset several times too, i don't mind as there aren't any important data in my phone but still, possibly getting a priceful item bricked over my messing around isn't something i'm too excited about, that's why i still like to ask around)
also what got me the idea was that i've also read from several people with the same device saying that with every android updates the phone gets even more sluggish

kiyan_ said:
yep. i learned the hard way
i'm quite green at this stuff and at first i just thought "more upgrades & updates means good! i should get the most out of this device" but alas after some serious overheating & battery draining problems over loads of features i dont even use.....
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I learned the hard way with Samsung's too.
After the upgrade to 13 did you do a factory reset? If not, now is the time. Don't use SmartSwitch; do a clean load by importing all the critic data yourself.
At the very least clear the system cache.
I use Package Disabler to disable about 70 apps. It's not as bad as it first seems. Android 10 literally has about 100 more new system apps than 9. Most of those new ones should be left alone. My disable list for the Android 9 N10+ vs the Android 10 one is almost identical though.
Samsung's do lots of cool things so don't be too concerned until you learn more about the features. Bixby got killed right out of the gate; it's a hog and it's EULA is one of the worst I've ever read.