Hello guys i know this is threath about Mi A2 but i cannot decide and maybe someone can help?. I am on Mi A2 about year now. I pretty happy with it. Camera is awesome with gcam, Fast, great battery but i wanna upgrade.
And i am chosing beetween Mi 9 SE, Mi 9 Lite, Mi A3, Note 8 Pro. On Note i am not sure about MediaTek because MediaTek cannot use gcam but maybe basic camera is great i am not sure.
I am looking for great camera in that price range, i dont gaming much on phone, just camera and social networks so lot of multitasking.
What you choose from those or maybe another Xiaomi device?
Thanks for any advice
Olmaik said:
Hello guys i know this is threath about Mi A2 but i cannot decide and maybe someone can help. I am on Mi A2 about year now. I pretty happy with it. Camera is awesome with gcam, Fast, great battery but i wanna upgrade.
And i am chosing beetween Mi 9 SE, Mi 9 Lite, Mi A3, Note 8 Pro. On Note i am not sure about MediaTek because MediaTek cannot use gcam but maybe basic camera is great i am not sure.
I am looking for great camera in that price range, i dont gaming much on phone, just camera and social networks so lot of multitasking.
What you choose from those or maybe another Xiaomi device?
Thanks for any advice
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I would go with Mi 9 SE
MI 9T, new fast 730sd, 6GB RAM, super amoled, big batery.
Well Mi 9T Is awesome but in my country is out of my budget.
In this case go to Mi 9 Lite, 4030mah battery, super amoled, 3.5mm jack/sd card.
But Mi9 lite it's just ~ 10% faster than A2.
Your choice, my advice it's better to wait some time.
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Basic camera isn't great, that's why you upgraded to gcam on the a2 also.
All of the models mentioned by you have miui but the a3. So prepare for bloat and jibber, unless you're used to miui.
The only one to one equivalent is the a3 (mostly os wise) but careful with that, despite the amoled it's only 720p and the pixels are so big they scratch your nose.
Go pixel 3a imho if you want stock android of course. Price/quality ratio is great and you'll have your gcam (natively).
If not, whichever floats your boat.
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Martin213 said:
Hi guys. I need an advise on wich phone to choose Mi 9T pro or Redmi note 8 pro. I'm not a heavy gamer. For me most important is camera,battery and community support (yes i know about 8 Pro Helio soc). Watched many videos in YouTube and still can't decide which device to choose. Seems both have a good camera's and decent battery life. Help me to choose ?
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My biggest influences was that I didn't want a notch or punch hole and wanted to ensure a decent level of custom ROM support.
It sounds like MTK are looking to be a bit more dev friendly, but personally I would want to see that happen first before considering an MTK device.
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Martin213 said:
What about camera between these two? I prefer better camera over notch/punch hole (i don't like those too) but community support Is most important for a long term usage...
Maybe i have to wait a bit longer and see what will happen with 8 Pro and development.
Thx
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The jury is out, with regards the camera. DXOmark didn't think it was anything special. There is a limit to how many pixels you can cram in such a tiny space and I reckon the Samsung ISOCELL chip had pushed things too far. It will be relying, too much, on post processing to remove the noise. Keeping around the 48MP range of the Sony and of their earlier ISOCELL sensor (so 12MP effective for most shots), with the larger sensor size could have given them a sweet spot.
Hey all,
I've question about photo quality in new firmware version. When i took first photos it looks great, very similar to P40 PRO - here are samples from both phones https://mega.nz/file/yI4TwASb#vujZkwIElbtdujE_yReCCFXiDciXZVd9u0P7U44T9fA
I don't know if was any update, but photos i took today looks more blurry and i'm not happy with results - Can You upload some sample photos from MI11 Ultra with new China firmware? Currently i think P40 PRO is better camera than MI 11 Ultra, especially in night and zoom capabilities. I wanted post samples here in forum, but there is error - files are too big.
Thanks in advance
drzewoid said:
Hey all,
I've question about photo quality in new firmware version. When i took first photos it looks great, very similar to P40 PRO - here are samples from both phones https://mega.nz/file/yI4TwASb#vujZkwIElbtdujE_yReCCFXiDciXZVd9u0P7U44T9fA
I don't know if was any update, but photos i took today looks more blurry and i'm not happy with results - Can You upload some sample photos from MI11 Ultra with new China firmware? Currently i think P40 PRO is better camera than MI 11 Ultra, especially in night and zoom capabilities. I wanted post samples here in forum, but there is error - files are too big.
Thanks in advance
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Hello,
I'm still a proud owner of my Huawei P40 Pro and bought it purely for the camera. Initially I was left very disappointed when I compared it with my MI 11 Ultra but I realized the GN2 sensor is still not optimized well enough yet so I'm staying optimistic and patient (while the P40 Pro's firmware is fully matured by now and has stopped getting camera improvements). The latest update makes it a lot better.
I've taken a range of recent shots unedited here on the latest v12.5.4 firmware whcih features a lot of camera improvements (minus low light): https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/initial-impressions-photo-samples-cn-rom.4263469/
Thanks for your reply, will you so kind and share some other photos - i saw this, but it's most buildings, and they looks fine. The problem is when i took pictures of trees, grass - looks very blurry, details have lost.
kyero985 said:
Hello,
I'm still a proud owner of my Huawei P40 Pro and bought it purely for the camera. Initially I was left very disappointed when I compared it with my MI 11 Ultra but I realized the GN2 sensor is still not optimized well enough yet so I'm staying optimistic and patient (while the P40 Pro's firmware is fully matured by now and has stopped getting camera improvements). The latest update makes it a lot better.
I've taken a range of recent shots unedited here on the latest v12.5.4 firmware whcih features a lot of camera improvements (minus low light): https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/initial-impressions-photo-samples-cn-rom.4263469/
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Huawei has a long history of good picture quality (Sharpness, dynamic range, color science, etc...) as well as consistency and continuous improvement of their software for existing models.
Let's hope Xiaomi will progress enough to live up to Huawei's standards.
I have the international version with MIUI 12.0.1 and I can't wait to get 12.5.4 given how much they have improved their photo software.
I would have waited for the P50 if Google was still allowed to provide GMS to Huawei...
drzewoid said:
Thanks for your reply, will you so kind and share some other photos - i saw this, but it's most buildings, and they looks fine. The problem is when i took pictures of trees, grass - looks very blurry, details have lost.
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No problem, I will take some photos of greenery and a bit of wildlife tomorrow - I'll put these in my original thread.
Alcibiade said:
Huawei has a long history of good picture quality (Sharpness, dynamic range, color science, etc...) as well as consistency and continuous improvement of their software for existing models.
Let's hope Xiaomi will progress enough to live up to Huawei's standards.
I have the international version with MIUI 12.0.1 and I can't wait to get 12.5.4 given how much they have improved their photo software.
I would have waited for the P50 if Google was still allowed to provide GMS to Huawei...
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I agree, I still love my P40 Pro and it took better shots than Mi 11 Ultra in all shooting scenarios when I first tried it out. I'll go as far as to say it even takes better photos than the S21 Ultra and iPhone 12 Pro Max or at least match them in most areas. At one point I was actually tempted to sell my My 11 Ultra as I got it really early and wait for the P50 Pro instead.
But I no longer have any regrets after missing Google app support for so long and the 12.5.4 update has already made things look a lot more promising and convincing of what's coming next in the future updates and I look forward to it.
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I agree, I still love my P40 Pro and it took better shots than Mi 11 Ultra in all shooting scenarios when I first tired it out. I'll go as far as to say I feel it takes better photos than the S21 Ultra and iPhone 12 Pro Max or at least match them in most areas. At one point I was actually tempted to sell my My 11 Ultra as I got it really early and wait for the P50 Pro instead.
But I no longer have any regrets after missing Google app support for so long and the 12.5.4 update has already made things look a lot more promising and convincing of what's coming next in the next updates and I look forward to it.
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Thank you for all the info.
I am rather a fan of DXO and tend to trust their benchmarks so I don't doubt 12.5.4 gets you enough quality to not regret your P40 Anyway the S21 has some real issues with noise and iOS is not my cup of tea, so it's not like I have a choice. I'll learn to enjoy my Mi 11 Ultra
Meanwhile I'll be eagerly waiting for the new firmware to arrive on the international version
Alcibiade said:
Thank you for all the info.
I am rather a fan of DXO and tend to trust their benchmarks so I don't doubt 12.5.4 gets you enough quality to not regret your P40 Anyway the S21 has some real issues with noise and iOS is not my cup of tea, so it's not like I have a choice. I'll learn to enjoy my Mi 11 Ultra
Meanwhile I'll be eagerly waiting for the new firmware to arrive on the international version
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According to this source at the bottom of the page which was one of the first to report on the 12.5.4's improvements, Xiaomi will be gathering live user feedback to further improve the camera on May the 7th: https://min.news/en/tech/590f98d68b0fdbb259d5fd644b74d23c.html
I have a good feeling they're trying to do what they can do get their camera performance as strong as possible before the EU release too so hopefully another update isn't too far away again.
Alcibiade said:
Huawei has a long history of good picture quality (Sharpness, dynamic range, color science, etc...) as well as consistency and continuous improvement of their software for existing models.
Let's hope Xiaomi will progress enough to live up to Huawei's standards.
I have the international version with MIUI 12.0.1 and I can't wait to get 12.5.4 given how much they have improved their photo software.
I would have waited for the P50 if Google was still allowed to provide GMS to Huawei...
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Does the latest Xiaomi.EU rom have the camera improvement?
lhubbard0 said:
Does the latest Xiaomi.EU rom have the camera improvement?
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Yes it does. It's derived from the latest CN ROM which has it.
Mi 11 Ultra vs P40 Pro in low light
note: I have the global Mi 11 Ultra, so no 12.5 update yet. I wonder if that update fixes the yellowish tone.
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Hello
I too come from a Huawei P40 Pro and have bought a Mi 11 Ultra. I am with MIUI 12.0.3.
This is the comparison I have made last night. I have used the stock app on both the Mi 11 Ultra and the P40 Pro, in photo mode and in night mode. I have also used GCam on the Mi11 Ultra (it does not work on the P40 Pro)
The obvious thing is that the picture with the Mi 11 Ultra in photo mode is of very bad quality. I first thought that it was cinetic blur because my hand was shaky, but I have tried again with the same result. I really think it is a bug since the night mode should be enabled automatically, I hope it will be corrected soon (because it is annoying to select night mode everytime I take a picture)
By contrast the picture with the Mi 11 Ultra in night mode is better in my opinion than the pictures with the P40 Pro. The pictures with the P40 Pro have a red/purple tint. And there is less details on the P40 Pro picture in photo mode and more noise on the P40 Pro in night mode.
I find the picture with Gcam on the Mi 11 Ultra interesting. There are more fine details than the stock app, I think because the sharpness algorithm is less agressive. The colors are also more vibrant. But there is less dynamic range than the stock app.
Overall I prefer the Gcam picture for now even if the stock app in night mode has a better dynamic range. I hope we will have the best of both world with MIUI 12.5 and the DxOMark improvements.
Mi 11 Ultra stock, photo mode
Mi 11 Ultra stock, night mode
P40 Pro, photo mode
P40 Pro, night mode
Mi 11 Ultra GCam
A few more comparisons (mostly 5x zoom)
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Don't post samples before the update. It's useless.
I had the update yesterday and honestly, I don't see so much difference. The exposure is a little higher, but I don't see anything else...
But the bug that made the night mode sometimes working automatically at night and sometimes not has been corrected I think. Now it always work.
From what I see, I still find that the Mi 11 Ultra is superior than the P40 Pro. Both are good. The most obvious difference is that the mi 11 Ultra has a yellow tint, and the P40 Pro a purple tint.
But when zooming, we can really see that the P40 Pro denoising and sharpening algorithms are too agressive and loose a lot of details compared to the mi11 Ultra.
before the update
after the update
P40 Pro
The hassle of Google keeps me away from Huawei !
If they got that part fixed, I guess They'd rule the world of smartphones.
The update was the 12.5.3. I was told that the DxOMark update is the 12.5.4 so it is logical that I don't see much difference.
But even with the 12.5.3, I already find that the mi 11 Ultra is superior to the P40 Pro
We'll see the difference when I have the 12.5.4
Borh77 said:
Hello
I too come from a Huawei P40 Pro and have bought a Mi 11 Ultra. I am with MIUI 12.0.3.
This is the comparison I have made last night. I have used the stock app on both the Mi 11 Ultra and the P40 Pro, in photo mode and in night mode. I have also used GCam on the Mi11 Ultra (it does not work on the P40 Pro)
The obvious thing is that the picture with the Mi 11 Ultra in photo mode is of very bad quality. I first thought that it was cinetic blur because my hand was shaky, but I have tried again with the same result. I really think it is a bug since the night mode should be enabled automatically, I hope it will be corrected soon (because it is annoying to select night mode everytime I take a picture)
By contrast the picture with the Mi 11 Ultra in night mode is better in my opinion than the pictures with the P40 Pro. The pictures with the P40 Pro have a red/purple tint. And there is less details on the P40 Pro picture in photo mode and more noise on the P40 Pro in night mode.
I find the picture with Gcam on the Mi 11 Ultra interesting. There are more fine details than the stock app, I think because the sharpness algorithm is less agressive. The colors are also more vibrant. But there is less dynamic range than the stock app.
Overall I prefer the Gcam picture for now even if the stock app in night mode has a better dynamic range. I hope we will have the best of both world with MIUI 12.5 and the DxOMark improvements.
Mi 11 Ultra stock, photo mode
Mi 11 Ultra stock, night mode
P40 Pro, photo mode
P40 Pro, night mode
Mi 11 Ultra GCam
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Which g am version did you use ?
rowihel2012 said:
Which g am version did you use ?
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This one
Urnyx05: PXv8.1_GCam-v1.2.apk
Download PXv8.1_GCam-v1.2.apk by Urnyx05.
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Hi, i would like to buy Mi 11,
Is wonder is photo / video (night mode) so good?
Now i have mi 9t and photo is nice, night video is awfull. (i use google camera+configs and miui camera)
Is in mi 11 better? A lot of better photos? and videos?
Haven't taken too many pics/vids, but yeah, xiaomi have imrpoved their cameras since the Mi 9 days!
not top of the line though check out dxomark its in the top 10.
I never understood the DxO-marks. I am happy with my Mi11 but the photo's I would give a 7/10. Night-mode is okay, but nothing in the photo can move. It basically just has a longer exposure so the photo will have more light but also more noise. Zooming in is always a bad idea. My Mi9T Pro (48mp) made the same photos with Gcam as the Mi11 stock. Gcam Mi11 doesn't improve much just yet, maybe in the future.
Overall I am not that impressed with the camera. Selfie-cam is pretty good though..
Hi Guys,
I wanted to change my Mi note 10 Pro for something better with equal/better camera, but I am struggling to do so for half a year already.
I have bought mi 11 pro (which was not so easy considering that I am based in EU and it has not been introduced there) because it seemed that having the same camera sensor as mi 11 ultra, 5000 mah battery and a quick CPU would fit my needs. Oh, how mistaken I was ....
Once it came, I have installed xiaomi.eu firmware (I am using it on mi note 10 pro too) and shot couple of pictures on both devices to compare. Each picture was just: get the phone out of the pocket and take a picture of the same thing on auto settings. In my opinion there are only 2 pictures for which mi 11 pro bested mi note 10 pro. Please crop each image to see how grainy mi 11 pro pictures are. I am totally disappointed...
MI11pro_MINOTE10PRO - Google Drive
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What settings are you using on mi 11? Why there is no exif?? Mine mi 11 is taking much better pictures, why your photos are so small, they're resized and overcompressed?
I used app to batch remove exif data- I am uncomfortable sharing pics with exact location over the web. It seems that it compressed the images.
I don't have the original files, so I will have to take new ones, but I can assure you that I did not fiddle with settings on either phones. Those are just shot out of a pocket.
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What settings are you using on mi 11? Why there is no exif?? Mine mi 11 is taking much better pictures, why your photos are so small, they're resized and overcompressed?
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Feel free to check up the photos now. I have taken the whole set once again and deleted only location data from exif. The verdicts stays the same for me.