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Hi guys!! I was thinking about changing my V20 lg ... changing to Xiaomi. Due to budget issues I would like to know which is the best purchase today. In terms of battery, screen, cameras, community.
Edito: I'm not interested in building materials etc, only that the device yields and is customizable. thank you in advance
You in mi8 section ask. You most likely will get people suggest you mi8
It depends on the price
GodMustaine said:
Hi guys!! I was thinking about changing my V20 lg ... changing to Xiaomi. Due to budget issues I would like to know which is the best purchase today. In terms of battery, screen, cameras, community.
Edito: I'm not interested in building materials etc, only that the device yields and is customizable. thank you in advance
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Other than the price, they have different pros and cons. For example, MI 8 have a slightly better native camera, AMOLED screen that looks awesome (but might live less than an IPS due to oled "burning"), has NFC and dual GPS.
Pocophone have widevine L1 already enabled, that allow you to stream for example Netflix content in FHD (MI 8 may get it in the future but for now only stream in HD), bigger battery on F1, headphone jack, infrared remote control (for TVs, ACs, etc...). Poco F1 also have a better cooling for it's chip, so it will perform better in long game sections. Also worth mentioning, with Pocophone you get a wider community....
If you really aim for that true blacks of AMOLED or need NFC, then MI 8. If not, go for Pocochone F1, it is much cheaper and it is more feature richer in some key areas.
Edit: Screen replacements for Pocophone are much cheaper and Facial Recognition for MI 8 don't work in some regions.
GodMustaine said:
Hi guys!! I was thinking about changing my V20 lg ... changing to Xiaomi. Due to budget issues I would like to know which is the best purchase today. In terms of battery, screen, cameras, community.
Edito: I'm not interested in building materials etc, only that the device yields and is customizable. thank you in advance
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I agree with most everything that @abnogueira mentioned.
Except, that I doubt the Oled will have serious issues. Especially since Dark mode is so prevalent, and with a phone you are not as likely to have static images always on I have have owned several Samsung phones and watches since they came to market and they are still going strong and with zero burn in. I would have expected to see some burn in on my Gear watches but I haven't. Seriously, Amoled is gorgeous and once you have have it, you don't want anything else.
While the Poco is also a very powerful phone, I would be the most concerned about LTE bands. The Poco F1 has very limited range of 4G/4G plus bands you should definitely ensure that it has the bands that you need before even considering it.. Frequency Check is an excellent site for checking the device and its supported bands as required by your carrier.
You can search for your country/carrier and the device that you are considering and it will give you a detailed report
Here is the address: https://www.frequencycheck.com/
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Regarding Worldvine. Currently the Mi8 has L3 Worldvine, The Poco may have L1 but it is my understanding that Poco owners are not yet able to use its benefits of higher resolution due to approval bottlenecks with Netflix.
I own a Le Pro 3 that has had Worldvine L1 support since late 2016 and my Netflix resolution is exactly the same for my Leeco X727 and my Mi8. No I get nothing higher than HD and this is due to Netflix dragging their feet with updating their device approval list : More about the issue and Netflix's limited range of approved devices here: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
At the end of the day, Disney will have their own online streaming service starting in November and that will surely get Netflix motivated to action.
abnogueira said:
Other than the price, they have different pros and cons. For example, MI 8 have a slightly better native camera, AMOLED screen that looks awesome (but might live less than an IPS due to oled "burning"), has NFC and dual GPS.
Pocophone have widevine L1 already enabled, that allow you to stream for example Netflix content in FHD (MI 8 may get it in the future but for now only stream in HD), bigger battery on F1, headphone jack, infrared remote control (for TVs, ACs, etc...). Poco F1 also have a better cooling for it's chip, so it will perform better in long game sections. Also worth mentioning, with Pocophone you get a wider community....
If you really aim for that true blacks of AMOLED or need NFC, then MI 8. If not, go for Pocochone F1, it is much cheaper and it is more feature richer in some key areas.
Edit: Screen replacements for Pocophone are much cheaper and Facial Recognition for MI 8 don't work in some regions.
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thanks for the review. It's a difficult statement, although I miss the amoled I used to use in Samsung. maybe the F1 I like more his battery
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I agree with most everything that @abnogueira mentioned.
Except, that I doubt the Oled will have serious issues. Especially since Dark mode is so prevalent, and with a phone you are not as likely to have static images always on I have have owned several Samsung phones and watches since they came to market and they are still going strong and with zero burn in. I would have expected to see some burn in on my Gear watches but I haven't. Seriously, Amoled is gorgeous and once you have have it, you don't want anything else.
While the Poco is also a very powerful phone, I would be the most concerned about LTE bands. The Poco F1 has very limited range of 4G/4G plus bands you should definitely ensure that it has the bands that you need before even considering it.. Frequency Check is an excellent site for checking the device and its supported bands as required by your carrier.
You can search for your country/carrier and the device that you are considering and it will give you a detailed report
Here is the address: https://www.frequencycheck.com/
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That's a real problem, because here in Argentina, the F1 would force me to use a lot of the time H + and not 4g ... That's a desperate detail. Thank you very much
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You in mi8 section ask. You most likely will get people suggest you mi8
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Mmmm no ... While mi8 attracts me a lot. I appeal to the sincerity of this forum, section mi8 or F1. Does not matter. Thanks for your attention
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That's a real problem, because here in Argentina, the F1 would force me to use a lot of the time H + and not 4g ... That's a desperate detail. Thank you very much
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No doubt, and just so you know I updated my post on Worldvine, if your weren't aware. L1 is coming to the Mi8 the issue is truly with the streaming services at this point.
Concerning the battery. My battery life is excellent. Although the battery is 3400 mah instead of 4000, the software for the Mi8 is quite different from the OS on the Poco. I have a lot of friends who own Poco's and they have switched to the EU beta Miui rom because its better optimised. My battery life is just as good as it is on my LePro 3 which also has a 4000msh battery. I am currently using the Miui Pro rom and according to GSAM battery manager my SOT 8.5 hours. SOT is great on pretty much all of the Miui based roms.
tsongming said:
No doubt, and just so you know I updated my post on Worldvine, if your weren't aware. L1 is coming to the Mi8 the issue is truly with the streaming services at this point.
Concerning the battery. My battery life is excellent. Although the battery is 3400 mah instead of 4000, the software for the Mi8 is quite different from the OS on the Poco. I have a lot of friends who own Poco's and they have switched to the EU beta Miui rom because its better optimised. My battery life is just as good as it is on my LePro 3 which also has a 4000msh battery. I am currently using the Miui Pro rom and according to GSAM battery manager my SOT 8.5 hours. SOT is great on pretty much all of the Miui based roms.
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I really thank you very much since you are dissipating many doubts about it. Just super thank your help and ... off topic: I'm crazy about mi8 in white
GodMustaine said:
I really thank you very much since you are dissipating many doubts about it. Just super thank your help and ... off topic: I'm crazy about mi8 in white
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I almost bought the white one. But it wasn't available from Amazon when I was ready to purchase. I ended up buying the blue one and I definitely have no regrets with purchasing the Mi8, I truly do love this phone.
BTW, I have purchases 4 different cases, I posted links for my favorite ones. Should you decide to go with the Mi8 you can rest assured that these cases are also great.
360 aluminium case : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G2Z628X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Lightweight case with finger ring that has lasted for months and is still tight : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H7VB7VC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Take Care, Should you get the phone feel free to message me if you have any questions.
Edit : Forgot to mention that we have something else in common. I am also a Metalhead and grew up with Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden etc. Mustaine has been a big influence and one of the reasons why I started playing guitar.
The early reviews seem to be mixed. Has anyone managed to source two together to give a verdict what is the latest and greatest amongst the two in all aspects not just performance.
CPU seems similar, GPU better on the SD. Exynos won't be similar on GPU until it gets AMD GPU next year.
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CPU seems similar, GPU better on the SD. Exynos won't be similar on GPU until it gets AMD GPU next year.
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Once it gets the AMD GPU it will destroy the Snapdragon and possibly finally level up with the Apple. Maybe not CPU wise, but definitely on the GPU front against Apple.
Edit. Wrong thread. Apologies.
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This man is not accurate because the test he ran only on one device by his own and he let another person to perform same test on that person's device then he compared both even though the one with Exynos 2100 was set to QHD and the one with SD888 was set to FHD only!! I mean this could impact the tests negatively!! The test conditions should be exactly the same!!
Listen to this guy, he is from HK and he've got the Snapdragon 888, in this video at 3:38 he mention that he don't understand how the american youtubers claims a 1.5 day battery life while his own experience in much less than that (almost half of that) .. so many youtubers unfortunately lies about the battery life and obviously this fool people who buys that device with Snapdragon 888, many of them put the phone only on Wi-Fi and not on cellular, it's not good and not nice when they claim something which is so badly incorrect. Note that BEN from the video below is using the phone with a SIM card, not with wi-fi only!
Review for SD888
nightoooo said:
This man is not accurate because the test he ran only on one device by his own and he let another person to perform same test on that person's device then he compared both even though the one with Exynos 2100 was set to QHD and the one with SD888 was set to FHD only!! I mean this could impact the tests negatively!! The test conditions should be exactly the same!!
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Where is the source for your info?
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Where is the source for your info?
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So in all fairness, I did go back and look at the speed test video he did between the two and noticed a few things
Looks like different people kicking off the tests (based on the table they are on and skin colour).
SD is in aeroplane mode and Exynos is connected to cellular but no wifi/mobile data.
Resolutions are very slightly different, but both look like they are in FHD, but the SD has a slightly lower resolution as the navigation bar is different and makes the screen slightly smaller. QHD makes a minimal difference to battery life unless you're doing something GPU intensive.
In all fairness, I've seen mixed reviews of both chips, but no idea how people are setting up their phones (always do a clean install!!!). Have to wait and see how it performs when the phone arrives.
mtm1401 said:
So in all fairness, I did go back and look at the speed test video he did between the two and noticed a few things
Looks like different people kicking off the tests (based on the table they are on and skin colour).
SD is in aeroplane mode and Exynos is connected to cellular but no wifi/mobile data.
Resolutions are very slightly different, but both look like they are in FHD, but the SD has a slightly lower resolution as the navigation bar is different and makes the screen slightly smaller. QHD makes a minimal difference to battery life unless you're doing something GPU intensive.
In all fairness, I've seen mixed reviews of both chips, but no idea how people are setting up their phones (always do a clean install!!!). Have to wait and see how it performs when the phone arrives.
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Have you gone for snapdragon or exynos. I am on the fence for buying either and can't decide. Not enough reliable info but if its anything like last year then I would rather import 888 into the UK.
Invincible29 said:
Have you gone for snapdragon or exynos. I am on the fence for buying either and can't decide. Not enough reliable info but if its anything like last year then I would rather import 888 into the UK.
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I pre-ordered the Exynos, trade in deal for my s10+ was good and I was in the market for some earbuds anyway.
I won't send my current phone in until I'm happy, 28 days should be enough to determine if the Ultra is worth keeping or not. (although won't get much of a chance to test out and about!).
I have considered SDs in the past, just a bit concerned about replacing it via insurance if it gets damaged (have to take it to a Samsung store). Seems like this year the SD isn't worth the hassle unless you constantly play demanding games which I don't. I would wait for the AMD S22, but I'm too impatient/tech whore sooooo couldn't wait.
The problem for me is trying to avoid Chinese phones (for ethical reasons), doesn't leave much choice!
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So in all fairness, I did go back and look at the speed test video he did between the two and noticed a few things
Looks like different people kicking off the tests (based on the table they are on and skin colour).
SD is in aeroplane mode and Exynos is connected to cellular but no wifi/mobile data.
Resolutions are very slightly different, but both look like they are in FHD, but the SD has a slightly lower resolution as the navigation bar is different and makes the screen slightly smaller. QHD makes a minimal difference to battery life unless you're doing something GPU intensive.
In all fairness, I've seen mixed reviews of both chips, but no idea how people are setting up their phones (always do a clean install!!!). Have to wait and see how it performs when the phone arrives.
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Thanks a lot of sparing me time to get the info again, obviously the differences are there and i get so sick of people claiming they are doing something huge while they just needs to get more publicity than giving the pure truth to everyone!!
For my opinion, i will not accept any of the videos to let me purchase or not the S21 Ultra, because they always run the phone in "lab" conditions, not real conditions that could affect the whole experience!
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Have you gone for snapdragon or exynos. I am on the fence for buying either and can't decide. Not enough reliable info but if its anything like last year then I would rather import 888 into the UK.
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I was in the same seat of you, not sure to get the Exynos 2100 in Sweden or i go for SD888 from HK. I have today S20 Ultra Snapdragon model and very happy with its performance & battery life but not the camera with the auto-focus issues and also for the macro pictures. So i was looking at all tests, feedbacks, reviews, i am now more sure that Exynos 2100 is for me this time because of the battery life and also the good performance, i know the GPU is weaker but for my part, battery life is more important, so with SD888 and its bad battery life there is no reason to buy it, i don't play games with my phones so i will be fine with Exynos 2100!
BTW, the Exynos 2100 gives me what i need, from full support for 5G network as my carrier has kicked off here in Sweden unlike the SD888 which lacks the important Band 40 and 42! Also the SD888 lacks the eSIM functionality!
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I was in the same seat of you, not sure to get the Exynos 2100 in Sweden or i go for SD888 from HK. I have today S20 Ultra Snapdragon model and very happy with its performance & battery life but not the camera with the auto-focus issues and also for the macro pictures. So i was looking at all tests, feedbacks, reviews, i am now sure that Exynos 2100 is for me this time because of the battery life and also the good performance, i know the GPU is weaker but for my part battery life is more important, so with SD888 and bad battery time, there is no reason for me to buy it, i don't play games with my phones so i will be fine with Exynos 2100 for now.
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I have been watching Gary's videos as well. Its a close call this time and I don't play games on the phone. Leaning towards exynos due to warranty and not having to import plus buds and tag as freebies etc. Just conscious of what happened last year and the difference was huge. Also samsung is not selling mmwave snapdragon or exynos outside of the US which is mean as mmwave is only a year or two away from landing in Europe. Why not treat all of its customers equally! I think with the recent history snapdragon had a novelty factor to it but others are catching up. Let's hope snapdragon doesn't become intel of mobile world.
nightoooo said:
Thanks a lot of sparing me time to get the info again, obviously the differences are there and i get so sick of people claiming they are doing something huge while they just needs to get more publicity than giving the pure truth to everyone!!
For my opinion, i will not accept any of the videos to let me purchase or not the S21 Ultra, because they always run the phone in "lab" conditions, not real conditions that could affect the whole experience!
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Yea it's not exactly like for like but can't imagine it makes loads of difference. I'm also more fussed about battery life, so will test it once I get it and see how it goes, battery life is just so dependent on personal usage, although I will say Phonebuff do a better job of testing, i.e. standby times and such, which gives a better idea of relative performance.
Andrei from Anandtech does really good reviews as well, but so in-depth that they don't usually release in time for pre-order
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I have been watching Gary's videos as well. Its a close call this time and I don't play games on the phone. Leaning towards exynos due to warranty and not having to import plus buds and tag as freebies etc. Just conscious of what happened last year and the difference was huge. Also samsung is not selling mmwave snapdragon or exynos outside of the US which is mean as mmwave is only a year or two away from landing in Europe. Why not treat all of its customers equally! I think with the recent history snapdragon had a novelty factor to it but others are catching up. Let's hope snapdragon doesn't become intel of mobile world.
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Yes, for sure you are getting 2 years warranty with Exynos 2100 in UK (i think) because we get that in Sweden too, additionally you are getting the pre booking freebies (Galaxy Buds Pro + Smart Tag), then you don't need to compare Exynos 2100 with the extremely bad Exynos 990 because the CPU is exactly the same as in SD888.
Regarding the MMwave, i don't care about it right now as it is not implemented yet in the networks here in Sweden, but i do have full 5G support for the rest of the bands which give me an advantage when the 4G is fully loaded.
I think Snapdragon will not be the intel of mobile world because Samsung is getting AMD help and involvement in the coming products, this will change the game!
This e sim is really important as you can add profiles without the need for physical sims. I had double checked this with HK version and it does not seem to be on the spec sheet. Yes band 40 will be gold once o2 pull their finger out in the UK for 5g. I think the decision is made for me that its going to be exynos for me plus also get samsung pay to work which is really handy for store cards. I'm using s9+ now and I don't know how uncomfortable the size of s21 ultra will be!
mtm1401 said:
So in all fairness, I did go back and look at the speed test video he did between the two and noticed a few things
Looks like different people kicking off the tests (based on the table they are on and skin colour).
SD is in aeroplane mode and Exynos is connected to cellular but no wifi/mobile data.
Resolutions are very slightly different, but both look like they are in FHD, but the SD has a slightly lower resolution as the navigation bar is different and makes the screen slightly smaller. QHD makes a minimal difference to battery life unless you're doing something GPU intensive.
In all fairness, I've seen mixed reviews of both chips, but no idea how people are setting up their phones (always do a clean install!!!). Have to wait and see how it performs when the phone arrives.
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What would you consider a clean install? Can you import settings from your samsung profile? I generally don't transfer with the USB, but I download all my apps after the phone is booted up from the original install. Only after the phone boots up and finishes the setup do I get the apps from the play store.
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What would you consider a clean install? Can you import settings from your samsung profile? I generally don't transfer with the USB, but I download all my apps after the phone is booted up from the original install. Only after the phone boots up and finishes the setup do I get the apps from the play store.
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I would start fresh, download apps manually, most have a cloud back up that they use themselves to restore once they are installed. From a settings perspective I'd do that all again fresh and let the system determine sleeping applications etc.
Basically avoid smart switch!
Tbh it's a good sort of audit process to work out which apps you have that you don't even use anymore
I don't think I was prepared for quite how big this phone is dwarfs my s10+ in size and weight
here's the minireview (after i bought it so late, knowing there's no Note21 coming, and written some summary about rooting):
Looks: who cares, it's hidden in the case, every phone nowadays looks the same. Thou naked, Note10 is the hottest phone, and this one looks similar to it. How does it help? You can enjoy it on the internet, like a window shopper. Your ugly case will decide its fate! For truly unique look,. get a foldable.
Body: heavy as hell, what can I say. Ultraultrathin case on the way to compensate. You have three choices: X-Level case, pitaka case, or give up. I miss the Bixby button to program it in Xposed Edge and there's no Lockdown option anywhere. On 1+ I could use unique wakelock geatures or unique fingerprint menu to trigger some stuff. Here there's no immediate shortcuts unfortunately.
Battery: hesitated for a month reading horror stories about battery. With A11, root, usual wakelocks (AOD, dt2wake, raise2wake), bluetooth & location tracking & VPN running nonstop and 1:1 data and 200 apps as on all past phones, and even without 1+ aggressive RAM cleanup, i must claim the battery is fantastic on Exynos. 3 days easy with my relaxed usage, which is just like OnePlus 6-7-8 I used to have.
Charging: pretty fast for a single battery. You saw the results on gsmarena. Not bad for an emergency topup. Highly compatible with many chargers (unlike 1+). Of course it can't match 8T or 1+9 speed, but very close to 8Pro. But you have tons of chargers around the world at your disposal. Shame on 1+ for this "Apple" type of strategy. In my huge collection of cables and USB testers I have just one of each which supports "Warp". I charged each 1+ at 8W thanks to this as I refuse proprietary methods. Still I did have their Qi charger to celebrate the addition of Qi, and interestingly Note20 won't charge from it.
Fingerprint: better than S10, potentially faster than Oneplus, however it's killed by a massive sluggish response to unlocking. Simply put, finger is recognized very fast but then there's a huge delay til screen is unlocked or app accepts it!
Camera: took an hour to carefully analyze few pics made in the same place, under 2x zoom I couldn't fault it and only found issues on 1+ side. The 1+ 8Pro, which is my reference flagship of 2020, featured issues: yellow tint, massive hair artifacts which look like compression, massive transition artifacts (like a botched Bokeh on a picture which is not even portrait mode!), less detail in each pic, lot of extra noise, highlight clipping. On the other side, this Note didn't have any issue. I'm bit shocked, i expected more balanced battle. Not like 10:0 for Samsung. It's just one mode tested: AUTO on main camera. Nothing else matters because thats how pics are made by people (that's what Xperia owners don't get: "but but you need to use the Pro mode" ). I don't make pics, but i can see the phone will be inheritable within family very easily as they love cameras.
Software: bloated into oblivion, had a lot of work with the guide so expect some serious time burnt on debloating this monster as 1+ owners laugh into your face. Rooting and updating will be only with cable and via Odin, as you can't even enter recovery and DL mode without PC anymore. So the sd card will not save your arse when abroad. However unlocking bootloader is without "agreement", so the warranty is still valid in EU. As bragged earlier, lot of functionality forces you to login and the account demands even your phone number aaaaand I couldn't even fake email and phone! They're so dedicated to capture your real identity so it's best to stay logged out. Even the frikking wallpapers which are ugly this season cannot be changed. But on the other side, the OneUI OS gives you way more than bland 1+ or Xperias, there's always some extra for you. Like the hints in Settings, one hand use, the SmartStay, the cool magnifier, the Spen actions, voice control of camera, camera minivideos, the kid mode, the notif reminder, e-z split screen, the conversation bubbles, richer AOD, rotating wallpaper, Bixby routines, Edge panel etc. Notifbar is full of shortcuts which usually indicates how rich OS is. There are even apps, like video or song browser, something that no longer exists in many OS. Notably the firewall is missing. So overall, after debloating it's stronger perhaps more productive than those vanilla OSes. I love the split screen can be done with dragging from Edge panel.
Speed: massive improvement vs s10 generation i'd say. For the first time, i see Samsung device can be snappy. But don't expect 1+ speed, it's not THAT fast. It's still just Exynos. I even noticed lagging animations here and there, but it's not nonstop like on gen10.
Display: 8Pro and Note20 were rated as the best displays by several ranking agencies and im not paranoid enough to claim their rankings are bogus. Just like i don't hate Dxomark or even positives boasting DisplayMate. Having quite many flagships in past I can see Samsung is always more readable than any other brand. I appreciate the brightness during the day and night. It doesn't force you to increase brightness manually every single night. Now the dark environment use: the backbleeding isn't obtrusive like on Tab S* or OLED TVs, it doesn't have status bar burnt like 8Pro, and it's pretty uniform. With gray color and low brightness I could see the screen blink once which was scary but couldn't replicate it anymore. Well in any case, we do NEED new display technology to replace this pulsating OLED nonsense. No problem with swiping like on Xperia5ii or ZFlip, not many mistouches, the curve is gentle. The resolution is limited at 120Hz but I will say it again: i cannot see more pixels or any detail better under physical magnifier. FullHD is better than Xperia1ii [email protected] any time that's why I couldn't buy that Sony. I do lower resolution on every phone, incl 8Pro which can run 2K @120Hz.
Network: another improvement since S10 is improved network, just like notebookcheck reports, it's in back to top league with 8Pro. WAN speed averages for me: 482/290 on Note20U, 440/234 on 1+8Pro, 481/147 on S10. Pure WiFi AC speed averages were 600/709, 648/706, 610/696 respectively. Making S10 quite good for LAN despite initial horrible S10,S10+,Note10,Note10+ results on notebookcheck, well i'm testing them in same exact position at the same time, so my results are more real at this point.
SD card: nothing exciting here happened over a decide except when they remove this feature. No advancements were made to utilize UHS2 or UHS1+ speed of Extreme cards. Benchmark is 61MBs, so it's not capped like Xperia to 30MBs. Again, can't use sd card to recover your ROM, but rather to store encrypted backups (from OAndbackup currently as 3C can't encrypt and TitaniumBackup is dead).
Overall gen.10 Samsung owners (S10,S10+,Note10,Note10+) have every reason to update their midrangers. Others will buy S21 as it's finally got a decent Exynos. I personally won't buy 227 frikking gram brick without sd card. For 1+ owners it's a preference of freedom to root, (insert "irrational" in EU) fear of losing warranty, "i'm tired with Samsung", properietary charging (1+), sd card, too much bloat, lot of extras vs vanilla etc. Both are strong flagships, didn't expect such good battery and camera result here. After disappointing Z Flip and Xperia5ii, and a decent pause in Samsung ownership (I didn't keep Note9 and S10 for myself so my last longterm device was S8) i'm keeping this as a main driver. I can clean it up very well, there's no snitching, there's zero Samsung connections active and battery clearly proves it. So for rooted users this device is a gem. Nema problema.
Thanks for sharing.
Keep in mind that it's just your personal opinion, and other users might have different opinions.
There is a note 21 coming. Not sure where you got that from but they said it some timr ago when rumors started circulating that a new note IS comimg
And how the hell are you getting 3 days of use?! When i use my phone super light for two days i barley make it to thr second night and even somethimes i need to give it few mins of juice in thr car or somwhere just so i can make it. And that id with very light use.
What bloat are you reffering too, do tou have a contract pgone or sim free? I have sim free and the only bloat i have is the odd sammy software that i occasionally rven use.
Ps. OneUI is not an OS but skin.
Re speed i am an owner od s10, note21 and s21 and i see verry little differrnce between thr s10 and note21, although i do not play games but i use photoshop, lightroom, drawing software and some other similar there is not much difference to say it is massive. There is, it is normal but not massive for sure and all 3 phones feel snappy as hell. Started using sammy with the s7 again and from that point on one from each generation and all felth at their time spanny and very goos.
The only bad thing i have expirianced with my s10 is wifi connectivity, it was poor compared even to my older phones, and with the note 20 ultra 4G is very VERY poor. Or the regular pgone signal. I constantly loose wifi or 4G in places where my other friends do not on all 3 of my phones since the s10 including my note 20 ultra.
As a previous one plus owner i can tell you that the only difference in quality for comparing Oneplus and samsung is thr camera. Nothing else. Onepkus makes solid phones, and they are getting expensive to a point where you comoare them with the top hitters of samsung but the camera is light years behind, there are not even in the same ballpark to compare there.
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Thanks for sharing.
Keep in mind that it's just your personal opinion, and other users might have different opinions.
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No harm in having different opinions we are all different people after all.
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There is a note 21 coming. Not sure where you got that from but they said it some timr ago when rumors started circulating that a new note IS comimg
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well..that's a rumor agains rumor
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And how the hell are you getting 3 days of use?! When i use my phone super light for two days i barley make it to thr second night and even somethimes i need to give it few mins of juice in thr car or somwhere just so i can make it. And that id with very light use.
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yeah im also lightly using the phone.. but it's nonstop connected to PC and watches, VPN, location tracking, all typical wakelocks on. After time, I'd say it's the same as you describe, 3rd day so so. But it's way better than as people described on the forums "horrible Exynos battery". It scared me away from buying for a good month.
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What bloat are you reffering too, do tou have a contract pgone or sim free? I have sim free and the only bloat i have is the odd sammy software that i occasionally rven use.
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well there was a link to debloat. Of course, Samsung is still the leader in bloatware. Heavily bloated like always.
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Ps. OneUI is not an OS but skin.
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let's not nitpick. We could say the same about Linux distros etc. The whole user facing solution is the OS.
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Re speed i am an owner od s10, note21 and s21 and i see verry little differrnce between thr s10 and note21, although i do not play games but i use photoshop, lightroom, drawing software and some other similar there is not much difference to say it is massive. There is, it is normal but not massive for sure and all 3 phones feel snappy as hell. Started using sammy with the s7 again and from that point on one from each generation and all felth at their time spanny and very goos.
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Had S7 to S10, but it wasn't snappy at all. This is first time it feels that way, thou vanilla OSes like Oxygen are snappier and stutterless. Sure enough i will like newer CPU on newer models, but I just did a sanity check - it is quite snappy.
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The only bad thing i have expirianced with my s10 is wifi connectivity, it was poor compared even to my older phones, and with the note 20 ultra 4G is very VERY poor. Or the regular pgone signal. I constantly loose wifi or 4G in places where my other friends do not on all 3 of my phones since the s10 including my note 20 ultra.
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Hmm, that was one problem fixed with Note20. No more moaning from my family about Wifi once upgraded S10->Note20. Connectivity good overall.
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As a previous one plus owner i can tell you that the only difference in quality for comparing Oneplus and samsung is thr camera. Nothing else. Onepkus makes solid phones, and they are getting expensive to a point where you comoare them with the top hitters of samsung but the camera is light years behind, there are not even in the same ballpark to compare there.
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Well, that's only one difference. The main difference for me is the software. This is where OnePlus saves money, by not inveting a penny to enrich the experience and add some productivity gains. This is where OneUI OS shines.
You made a good choice.
The only other one I would consider is the N10+.
I use the SD card as a data drive. You need a V30 rated card for top transfer speeds.
Sorry Sammy, no SD card, no sale
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You made a good choice.
The only other one I would consider is the N10+.
I use the SD card as a data drive. You need a V30 rated card for top transfer speeds.
Sorry Sammy, no SD card, no sale
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i have an SD card, in one of Note20 and Ultra, and it's slow just like in every other mobile (apparently there's no device/appliance with higher speed than 90MBs UHS1 cap other than PC/DSLR - e.g. Sandisk Extreme a.k.a. UHS1+ or UHS2). I mean V30 is very slow to me, both sequential and random access. Given the terrible latency a.k.a. 4K speed, i wouldn't use the SD card for anything but backups and static dead files like music/videos. SD cards are a complete joke versus UFS. Also 60Hz screen, not for me, but OK for the person who received Note20 after S10 and never experienced the 120Hz heaven))
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i have an SD card, in one of Note20 and Ultra, and it's slow just like in every other mobile (apparently there's no device/appliance with higher speed than 90MBs UHS1 cap other than PC/DSLR - e.g. Sandisk Extreme a.k.a. UHS1+ or UHS2). I mean V30 is very slow to me, both sequential and random access. Given the terrible latency a.k.a. 4K speed, i wouldn't use the SD card for anything but backups and static dead files like music/videos. SD cards are a complete joke versus UFS. Also 60Hz screen, not for me, but OK for the person who received Note20 after S10 and never experienced the 120Hz heaven))
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For the N10+ the V30 is around it's top transfer speeds, the N20 is probably good for more.
The N10+ comes with Pie so no scope storage or the other Q nasties.
Lol, 60hz is 30hz faster than I was raised on being a 60's TV child... I'm not greedy
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well..that's a rumor agains rumor
yeah im also lightly using the phone.. but it's nonstop connected to PC and watches, VPN, location tracking, all typical wakelocks on. After time, I'd say it's the same as you describe, 3rd day so so. But it's way better than as people described on the forums "horrible Exynos battery". It scared me away from buying for a good month.
well there was a link to debloat. Of course, Samsung is still the leader in bloatware. Heavily bloated like always.
let's not nitpick. We could say the same about Linux distros etc. The whole user facing solution is the OS.
Had S7 to S10, but it wasn't snappy at all. This is first time it feels that way, thou vanilla OSes like Oxygen are snappier and stutterless. Sure enough i will like newer CPU on newer models, but I just did a sanity check - it is quite snappy.
Hmm, that was one problem fixed with Note20. No more moaning from my family about Wifi once upgraded S10->Note20. Connectivity good overall.
Well, that's only one difference. The main difference for me is the software. This is where OnePlus saves money, by not inveting a penny to enrich the experience and add some productivity gains. This is where OneUI OS shines.
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Where are you from, and is your phonr sim free or not?because my pgone is sim free and i have close to zero bloat (except the odd sammy rmail, web browser etc. That i do not consider bloat). For me personally everything google is bloat that you cant remove (i do not like google as you can see )
Unless you are not sim free the phone it self was pretty clean when i purchased it no adds, no usless software (except 1-2 samsung things that i do not use and cant remove) but that is their pgone... It is to be expected to see their software on it.
Re the battery... To be fair i stopped listening to reviewers and people on the net lomg time ago, turns out many are biased towards this or that and tou cant really get the true story. I am extreamly happy with my battery and my camera, two points that are heavily criticized on the forums anywhere and by reviewers.
I still own s7, s8 and s10... And even now if they are not packed with software they hry are not that bad, but during their prime time they were as snappy as ever dor me. Might be a sim free vs not i do not know. All my phomes are sim free.
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Where are you from, and is your phonr sim free or not?because my pgone is sim free and i have close to zero bloat (except the odd sammy rmail, web browser etc. That i do not consider bloat). For me personally everything google is bloat that you cant remove (i do not like google as you can see )
Unless you are not sim free the phone it self was pretty clean when i purchased it no adds, no usless software (except 1-2 samsung things that i do not use and cant remove) but that is their pgone... It is to be expected to see their software on it.
Re the battery... To be fair i stopped listening to reviewers and people on the net lomg time ago, turns out many are biased towards this or that and tou cant really get the true story. I am extreamly happy with my battery and my camera, two points that are heavily criticized on the forums anywhere and by reviewers.
I still own s7, s8 and s10... And even now if they are not packed with software they hry are not that bad, but during their prime time they were as snappy as ever dor me. Might be a sim free vs not i do not know. All my phomes are sim free.
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From EU, we don't have any locks by law. Still even such Samsungs are full of processes that waste memory, batter, keep connection, and kill privacy. It's not just what you see as icons. It's Bixby, Samsung Cloud, Find, Galaxy Friends, Pay, push service, logging, debugging, location tracking, knoxx, wifi snitching, Phone assistance, and finally sponsored vendor crap with boosted battery priorities. Can't believe you didn't notice until now There must be tons of threads about this.
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From EU, we don't have any locks by law. Still even such Samsungs are full of processes that waste memory, batter, keep connection, and kill privacy. It's not just what you see as icons. It's Bixby, Samsung Cloud, Find, Galaxy Friends, Pay, push service, logging, debugging, location tracking, knoxx, wifi snitching, Phone assistance, and finally sponsored vendor crap with boosted battery priorities. Can't believe you didn't notice until now There must be tons of threads about this.
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Half of those i use, if not more. So do my friends. As i said define bloat. To me bloat is google everything and thr inability to get rid if it easily. To me bloat is not something you buy and you get the brand services, but other services you do not want likr carier services or others like microsoft/google etc.
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Thanks for sharing.
Keep in mind that it's just your personal opinion, and other users might have different opinions.
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That response,
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From EU, we don't have any locks by law. Still even such Samsungs are full of processes that waste memory, batter, keep connection, and kill privacy. It's not just what you see as icons. It's Bixby, Samsung Cloud, Find, Galaxy Friends, Pay, push service, logging, debugging, location tracking, knoxx, wifi snitching, Phone assistance, and finally sponsored vendor crap with boosted battery priorities. Can't believe you didn't notice until now There must be tons of threads about this.
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Indeed, that's why a Samsung 4500mAh battery will never be as comparable as lets say a OnePlus' 4500mAh.
First thing one must do, ADB uninstall the hell out of all the Samsung garbage apps and such. For every Google spyware on ONE UI there is also an equivalent Samsung process running.
I was considering getting this phone but Samsung screwed up with the CPU heatsink big time on some of the same variant and it's random, unpredictable. Only observation of abnormal poor heat dissipation or a tear down can reveal which heat sink is used.
Russian heat sink roulette, perfect
I don't have the patience for this kind of poor quality control. It's getting to be a hallmark of Samsung. Why the hell didn't Samsung use only the copper vapor cooling solution on all of it's models? A sick, expensive joke that can't be easily retrofitted or cure by firmware.
Really?
If yours is running hot this may be why.
Here’s Why Some Galaxy Note 20 Phones Have Overheating Problems & There’s Nothing One Can Do
This is unacceptable.
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Greetings to Pixel 5a owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day. I'm choosing between these two models.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 5a right now? I am excited about its battery life; at the same time, it's not that large and heavy. However, I'm a bit concerned that it has only 6 GB of RAM, and the Snapdragon processor might be not too future-proof, as Google might save some features for their Tensor-based models. What do you think?
Best,
Andrii
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Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 5a right now? I am excited about its battery life; at the same time, it's not that large and heavy. However, I'm a bit concerned that it has only 6 GB of RAM, and the Snapdragon processor might be not too future-proof, as Google might save some features for their Tensor-based models. What do you think?
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Andrii
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Currently I only use my 5a and 6 for testing.
Between the two, I prefer the 5a and plan on switching to it as my daily use phone.
I am still using (and like) my 3a as my daily-use phone.
The 5a is very close in size and style.
Between the camera style and positioning, a dedicated fingerprint sensor, ..
Might be why I prefer the 5a.
Cheers.
Forgot to add - both 6 and 5a are Japanese versions. I have found that the shutter sound can't be disabled; maybe you know any other issues or differences?
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Between the two, I prefer the 5a and plan on switching to it as my daily use phone.
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Between the camera style and positioning, a dedicated fingerprint sensor, ..
Might be why I prefer the 5a.
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thanks for sharing your experience! very helpful!!
As I stated in your Pixel 5 thread, I believe you can still get the 5a new. Here are the main differences between the 5 and 5a:
Screen size: 5a is bigger but only 60Hz, 5 is 90Hz
Battery capacity: 5 has 4080MaH, 5a 4680
RAM: 5 has 8GB, 5a has 6GB
Wireless charging: 5a doesn't have it
They both use the same SoC (Snapdragon 765G), same GPU, and same modem.
There are some additional minor differences - the 5 has Gorilla Glass 6, vs the 5a only uses Gorilla Glass 3. Negligible with a screen protector. 5 is IP68, 5a is IP67.
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As I stated in your Pixel 5 thread, I believe you can still get the 5a new. Here are the main differences between the 5 and 5a:
Screen size: 5a is bigger but only 60Hz, 5 is 90Hz
Battery capacity: 5 has 4080MaH, 5a 4680
RAM: 5 has 8GB, 5a has 6GB
Wireless charging: 5a doesn't have it
They both use the same SoC (Snapdragon 765G), same GPU, and same modem.
There are some additional minor differences - the 5 has Gorilla Glass 6, vs. the 5a only uses Gorilla Glass 3. Negligible with a screen protector. 5 is IP68, 5a is IP67.
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Thanks, buddy, for kindly sharing your feedback in both threads.
I am planning to purchase a new device this week and was trying to get as much feedback as possible within an extremely short period of time.
Initially, I thought about P5 vs. P5A vs. P6.
Only used P5 are in stock, so its battery life is likely even worse than the new P5A and P6. So now, I'm choosing between the latter two.
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Thanks, buddy, for kindly sharing your feedback in both threads.
I am planning to purchase a new device this week and was trying to get as much feedback as possible within an extremely short period of time.
Initially, I thought about P5 vs. P5A vs. P6.
Only used P5 are in stock, so its battery life is likely even worse than the new P5A and P6. So now, I'm choosing between the latter two.
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TBH I haven't handled the P6, but with the physical design and the problems many have had with the new hardware, I'd say stick with the P5a. I doubt the 2GB of RAM will make much difference for you. My wife uses hers pretty heavily for playing games and she's never had an issue with sluggishness.
If you want to be able to root, make sure you buy an unbranded Google device.
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make sure you buy an unbranded Google device
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What do you mean under "unbranded"?
I saw devices sold in open boxes, and their screens are covered by a protective film like on new phones—the semi-transparent on the P5A and the solid white on P6.
I assume they might be the refurbished units. Is there any way to check it?
upd: ##786# and *#*#786#*#* do not work either on my P4A or other phones, and I assume, on P5A and P6 won't work as well
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What do you mean under "unbranded"?
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Don't get a carrier branded device. But since you're in the Ukraine, I'm not sure this would be of any concern.
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I saw devices sold in open boxes, and their screens are covered by a protective film like on new phones—the semi-transparent on the P5A and the solid white on P6.
I assume they might be the refurbished units. Is there any way to check it?
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No idea.
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upd: ##786# and *#*#786#*#* do not work either on my P4A or other phones, and I assume, on P5A and P6 won't work as well
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What are you trying to do with that?
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What are you trying to do with that?
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I have
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No idea.
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Hello, I also from Ukraine, I bought my 5a 2 month ago in stylus. Everything works fine. It's not Japan it's US model.
Thanks, @ipdev, @V0latyle, @[email protected], for your feedback
Today I placed my order for the P5A (US version), and I look forward to receiving it next week! Should I check something when in-store? I'm not confident about the seller, so it's better to find out issues before paying.
The idea was: Everything works for me in my P4A, except its battery drains too fast. P5A is similar to P4A but with excellent battery life. Snapdragon SoC, 60Hz screen, and rear-mounted fingerprint are more pros to me than cons.
Bad thing with this phone is how easily overheats during warm summer days while taking pictures or having video call and gps turned on. Google really made cheapest phone they could.
Also idiots from google didn't enable VoLTE like normal company but they locked it so only "certified" carriers have it. This is my first and last pixel phone.
Battery is great, cameras are standard Google reliable and good.
Clean Android with regular updates is also good and everything just works.
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Bad thing with this phone is how easily overheats during warm summer days while taking pictures or having video call and gps turned on. Google really made cheapest phone they could.
Also idiots from google didn't enable VoLTE like normal company but they locked it so only "certified" carriers have it. This is my first and last pixel phone.
Battery is great, cameras are standard Google reliable and good.
Clean Android with regular updates is also good and everything just works.
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Just install custom and do undervoult for CPU and GPU it will be colder and more battery backup
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Just install custom and do undervoult for CPU and GPU it will be colder and more battery backup
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I am hesitant to do that since I risk lossing banking apps and payments that use nfc. Google is trying hard to disable hiding of unlocked bootloader...idiots.
Only ROM that for now works is pixel experience and rooting will again cause issues with banking and payment apps.
I don't know, magisk is hiding it perfectly
Thinking of buying it for 2023, but it was released only in like 3-4 countries so the communites for ROMs and other development could be far stronger. Rule#1 when future-proofing through custom ROMs: Make sure the phone is widely available.
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Thinking of buying it for 2023, but it was released only in like 3-4 countries so the communites for ROMs and other development could be far stronger. Rule#1 when future-proofing through custom ROMs: Make sure the phone is widely available.
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I'd personally say stay away. The overheating issue isn't *terrible* if you're not a frequent user of video chat, but when you do need it, your phone is going to overheat and your radios shut off. I was trying to use a telehealth visit with my doctor for a recent diagnosis using 5G on Visible, and it keep shutting off the radio and freezing the phone. I had to use my wife's iPhone instead. The doctor couldn't even call my phone because it was locked up for 5 minutes.
I'm on my 3rd Pixel 5a (due to screen breaks) they have all had the overheating issue. It won't come up for months but if/when it does come up it can be during a critical time.
I have been following the reviews of the X90 Pro+ since it was released and was super exited to finally retire my P30 Pro for this king of photography.
I find it hard to believe that Vivo decided to keep it exclusive to China, but that seems to be the case. Guess they think people who want the best camera phone is going to buy the lesser Vivo's instead of the upcoming S23. Doubt anyone is tempted by these Vivo's - utterly bizarre decision. Hoping sales will make them realise that.
In any case - thinking of importing it, as there is no other phone that tempts me.
Apart from the lack of warranty and/or hassle getting anything fixed or replaced in case of a fault (had the worst nightmare with an S7 from E-Global years back - threw it in the bin), are there any downsides to importing this phone to Europe (UK specifically)?
From my understanding there should be no 4g/5g band issues. How about Origin OS? Seems it has more functionality than Funtouch, but are there any potential issues?
I don't use Android Auto.
Finally - which Chinese vendor is considered safe and reliable?
Thanks!
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I have been following the reviews of the X90 Pro+ since it was released and was super exited to finally retire my P30 Pro for this king of photography.
I find it hard to believe that Vivo decided to keep it exclusive to China, but that seems to be the case. Guess they think people who want the best camera phone is going to buy the lesser Vivo's instead of the upcoming S23. Doubt anyone is tempted by these Vivo's - utterly bizarre decision. Hoping sales will make them realise that.
In any case - thinking of importing it, as there is no other phone that tempts me.
Apart from the lack of warranty and/or hassle getting anything fixed or replaced in case of a fault (had the worst nightmare with an S7 from E-Global years back - threw it in the bin), are there any downsides to importing this phone to Europe (UK specifically)?
From my understanding there should be no 4g/5g band issues. How about Origin OS? Seems it has more functionality than Funtouch, but are there any potential issues?
I don't use Android Auto.
Finally - which Chinese vendor is considered safe and reliable?
Thanks!
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I bought mine from Giztop.com They shipped it extremely fast and packed well to avoid any damages..
Ok great. I might order from them.
Another thing - I read somewhere that Origin does not support always on display - is that true? That's one of the basic functions which is a must
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Ok great. I might order from them.
Another thing - I read somewhere that Origin does not support always on display - is that true? That's one of the basic functions which is a must
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No the phone has AOD, some 3rd party apps won't work though. I use Google messages for texting and AOD won't show my incoming texts
I ordered mine last month from Wonda Mobile. They shipped via Fedex and I got it in just 3 days. https://www.wondamobile.com/mobile/vivo/vivo-x90-pro-plus-5g-cn-dual-sim-12gb-ram-256gb.html
the price seems to be going down every day, I paid around 1150€ for my black 12/256 model and now I see it's just 979€.
- The downsides of OriginOS are pretty much notification problems.. You won't get notifications from certain third party apps like Telegram for example, when dark mode is enabled. No idea if they are gonna fix it, but apparently it was a problem on the Vivo X80 Pro as well (China version) and it was fixed in an update.
- "Ok Google" voice recognition won't work either (I don't use it, but that's what I read)
- 4G works without any issues. For 5G you might wanna check out on kimovil.com, if the phone is fully compatible with your carrier.
I ordered mine from tradingshenzhen, it arrived 2 days ago.
- I bought it (512GB version) on December 29, now it has the same price, it didn't drop and I was monitoring the websites everyday since December 22, ~1150E. I bought it for the camera.
- first of all, I think people should buy this phone only if they need / want the camera, since it comes with a lot of settings / apps still in chinese.
- I think 5G is only suported in China, I got a notification saying it only works in "mainland China", so I have 4G, but I don't care, I'm more then happy with 4G.
- When you receive the phone it will have a lot of applications in Chinese, I haven't removed them yet, I will start the process today, but I will only remove what I know, not every application like others did here (I don't care if they "spy" on me)
- Apps that don't work: google voice, android auto, desktop mode when connected to a monitor. I don't use them so for me is OK.
You are buying for 1000E a phone that the competitors are selling for at least 1600E, but you must accept that not everything will work on it.
For me is OK, I realised I don't use all the "new" hot stuff, I'm still using the phone like I used my Samsung S7 6-7 years ago.
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I ordered mine last month from Wonda Mobile. They shipped via Fedex and I got it in just 3 days. https://www.wondamobile.com/mobile/vivo/vivo-x90-pro-plus-5g-cn-dual-sim-12gb-ram-256gb.html
the price seems to be going down every day, I paid around 1150€ for my black 12/256 model and now I see it's just 979€.
- The downsides of OriginOS are pretty much notification problems.. You won't get notifications from certain third party apps like Telegram for example, when dark mode is enabled. No idea if they are gonna fix it, but apparently it was a problem on the Vivo X80 Pro as well (China version) and it was fixed in an update.
- "Ok Google" voice recognition won't work either (I don't use it, but that's what I read)
- 4G works without any issues. For 5G you might wanna check out on kimovil.com, if the phone is fully compatible with your carrier.
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Fully agree with this but would like to add:
- timeline doesn't work in maps
Not sure how important that is, i had it always disabled.
google assistant also doesn't work properly (no conversation, no okay google).
Google backup doesn't work making setup/moving your phone super painful. I haven't found any free third party app that could move app settings and some data from messengers for example.
No desktop mode is a bummer as it's a feature I use when travelling with my P30 pro.
Hmmm - perhaps I will wait until February and hope a global release is announced
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Fully agree with this but would like to add:
- timeline doesn't work in maps
Not sure how important that is, i had it always disabled.
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Timeline in Google maps does indeed work..
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Timeline in Google maps does indeed work..
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Oh ok. I haven't tried that myself because it's always off for me. I have read that many times from the other users so I thought it's true.
No you can access timeline but it doesn't register new places. So it doesn't work.
I really regret having bought this dump phone with great camera...
Cannot activate location history.
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No you can access timeline but it doesn't register new places. So it doesn't work.
I really regret having bought this dump phone with great camera...
Cannot activate location history.
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I love this phone. Coming from pixel 7 Pro this one feels way more premium
Well cannot use Google maps hand free without assistant. Cannot read out emails aloud without conversation of google assistant.
Notifications of Signal often break (must be because China cannot block Signal messenger like they can do with WhatsApp and others). Google apps in general crippled.
This phone has to be used like a phone 5 years ago. No modern intelligent interaction possible with the phone. But yeah outstanding camera for photos (less so for videos) and good but not great battery life.
If only Asus would have a camera phone. The Zenfone 9 and the rog phone 6 really rock for the target people. Pixel 7 would rock with good battery life. That's why just wait for Samsung s23 which likely will trump the x90 camera wise anyhow. And battery wise too (for that really bad chip they got good battery life). But yeah besides Samsung, Google and Asus, and Nokia on the low end there are no more good software phones. Motorola still a bit better then the remaining Chinese producers. As long as consumers buy mainly based on hardware they can continue with dismal software.
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Well cannot use Google maps hand free without assistant. Cannot read out emails aloud without conversation of google assistant.
Notifications of Signal often break (must be because China cannot block Signal messenger like they can do with WhatsApp and others). Google apps in general crippled.
This phone has to be used like a phone 5 years ago. No modern intelligent interaction possible with the phone. But yeah outstanding camera for photos (less so for videos) and good but not great battery life.
If only Asus would have a camera phone. The Zenfone 9 and the rog phone 6 really rock for the target people. Pixel 7 would rock with good battery life. That's why just wait for Samsung s23 which likely will trump the x90 camera wise anyhow. And battery wise too (for that really bad chip they got good battery life). But yeah besides Samsung, Google and Asus, and Nokia on the low end there are no more good software phones. Motorola still a bit better then the remaining Chinese producers. As long as consumers buy mainly based on hardware they can continue with dismal software.
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Well I guess it depends on what you want or need, i'm more than happy. From your writings i think even the Pixel 6a would be good for you.
I want very good camera with zoom, and very good battery life, and reliability with full google services. Pixel 7 pro doesn't have good battery life..
90 or 120 Hz Display is a must too. Actually FHD+ would be best (because of battery life and FHD+ mode on 1440p screen looks unsharp), needs to be waterproof and have very bright screen (1000nits without HDR for outdoor use is what I feel is enough).
Likely s23 Ultra and maybe s23 plus (depends on the quality of the zoom lens) would be perfect or waiting if Pixel 8 pro has better Chipset when it comes to power consumption.
I never play games. Speed is only important in terms of camera.
Pixel 6a will not work for camera and battery life
extremecarver said:
I want very good camera with zoom, and very good battery life, and reliability with full google services. Pixel 7 pro doesn't have good battery life..
90 or 120 Hz Display is a must too. Actually FHD+ would be best (because of battery life and FHD+ mode on 1440p screen looks unsharp), needs to be waterproof and have very bright screen (1000nits without HDR for outdoor use is what I feel is enough).
Likely s23 Ultra and maybe s23 plus (depends on the quality of the zoom lens) would be perfect or waiting if Pixel 8 pro has better Chipset when it comes to power consumption.
I never play games. Speed is only important in terms of camera.
Pixel 6a will not work for camera and battery life
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Got about 8h SOT with the Pixel 7 Pro. I think that's good .
aspj1111 said:
I bought mine from Giztop.com They shipped it extremely fast and packed well to avoid any damages..
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I think to order when I realised that model Pro plus is not coming to Europe. Just need to make clear, is it true that 5G doesn't work on this? and there is obviously English menu in OS, any other issues?
LIPA83 said:
I think to order when I realised that model Pro plus is not coming to Europe. Just need to make clear, is it true that 5G doesn't work on this? and there is obviously English menu in OS, any other issues?
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I would check the compatibility assistant on Tradingshenzhen. 5G works great for me.
5g works (check the bands on kimovil for your country). mmwave is not supported but rare in Europe. In US no mmwave is a big letdown.1500mhz 5G will likely start in 1-2 years in many countries in Europe - and isn't supported. But very few phones (2022) support it.
I would really wait for S23 however now. In China/Taiwan the x90 Pro+ is cheap (840/880€) but I would not thing a second about it if you can get a Pixel 7 Pro for much cheaper as in Europe (here P7Pro 256GB is more expensive, S22 Ultra same price).