Never had these usage stats in the past like palm sensor or pressure sensor on my previous galaxy devices active . Since I have all those features turned off. Yet according to GSAM they are still running and active. Trying to tame the wakelocks the attached is screen shot of activity when device had been not used for the hours and mins shown.
You have a lock screen set?
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You have a lock screen set?
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Just swipe to open after double tap. Same as on my previous Samsung devices.
Strange. Try in safe mode and clear system cache.
Try disabling Google play Services when at rest.
Try clearing the app cache in memory then immediately turn off. See what wants to run latter then when you first go SO with Device Care.
Likely running under Android Service... that worm's nest
What's the battery % usage per hour at rest?
Should be about:
AOD always on >1%@hr
Tap on AOD >.5%@hr
It should be more efficient than my 10+
What app are you using to measure that, get those stats?
blackhawk said:
Strange. Try in safe mode and clear system cache.
Try disabling Google play Services when at rest.
Try clearing the app cache in memory then immediately turn off. See what wants to run latter then when you first go SO with Device Care.
Likely running under Android Service... that worm's nest
What's the battery % usage per hour at rest?
Should be about:
AOD always on >1%@hr
Tap on AOD >.5%@hr
It should be more efficient than my 10+
What app are you using to measure that, get those stats?
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Using GSAM. Also the Samsung AOD system is running when it's all off. I think their related to my first post on this matter.
Cool.
It may be misreporting what's active (like that never happens).
If the battery usage is around what I posted before or better when sleeping I wouldn't be concerned.
I'm still thinking about getting a 20U but damn Android 10... Samsung may belly flop again next year. The semiconductor situation isn't looking good either.
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Cool.
It may be misreporting what's active (like that never happens).
If the battery usage is around what I posted before or better when sleeping I wouldn't be concerned.
I'm still thinking about getting a 20U but damn Android 10... Samsung may belly flop again next year. The semiconductor situation isn't looking good either.
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I agree with everything you wrote. I'm a dense nerd here, and so I recall either Samsung or a computer graphics card company making a post somewhere recently describing how many of these apps often give misreadings.... But yeah, since I'm a nerd I often lookup too many tech things and then can't seem to remember which was which, haha.
But on the bright side, I'm thinking about trading in my S21U for a P6P in a few months. I'm definitely sick of dealing with all of the problems that always seem to come with any Samsung product (or perhaps I just have bad luck and always get their crummy products lol).
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I agree with everything you wrote. I'm a dense nerd here, and so I recall either Samsung or a computer graphics card company making a post somewhere recently describing how many of these apps often give misreadings.... But yeah, since I'm a nerd I often lookup too many tech things and then can't seem to remember which was which, haha.
But on the bright side, I'm thinking about trading in my S21U for a P6P in a few months. I'm definitely sick of dealing with all of the problems that always seem to come with any Samsung product (or perhaps I just have bad luck and always get their crummy products lol).
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Thanks. I see the misreporting sometimes with dependencies/parent apks within the Google ecosystem. Sometimes you need to take a guess at who the perp is...
Yeah its been a bad year for the box full of rabid gerbils we call Samsung.
Samsung has always run hot and cold. They were running hot with the 10+, I got lucky.
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Cool.
It may be misreporting what's active (like that never happens).
If the battery usage is around what I posted before or better when sleeping I wouldn't be concerned.
I'm still thinking about getting a 20U but damn Android 10... Samsung may belly flop again next year. The semiconductor situation isn't looking good either.
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Yep I agree. We'll see. In the past I'd get 0.4 - 0.5 percent an hour drain sometimes less. This is higher. Around 0.7 to 0.9. Screen time usage is about the same however.
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Yep I agree. We'll see. In the past I'd get 0.4 - 0.5 percent an hour drain sometimes less. This is higher. Around 0.7 to 0.9. Screen time usage is about the same however.
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If AOD is always on it's excellent. Tap on, a little high but not near outrageous.
At 1.5+% @hr you know something is having too much fun...
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If AOD is always on it's excellent. Tap on, a little high but not near outrageous.
At 1.5+% @hr you know something is having too much fun...
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I never use AOD. Perhaps sometimes just tap to show. But currently it's all off.
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I never use AOD. Perhaps sometimes just tap to show. But currently it's all off.
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I always use it, literally I have no clue what it gets with it off completely.
I normally run tap on AOD; it's probably similar in usage to no AOD.
For giggles and kicks see what it gets with tap on AOD active...
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I always use it, literally I have no clue what it gets with it off completely.
I normally run tap on AOD; it's probably similar in usage to no AOD.
For giggles and kicks see what it gets with tap on AOD active...
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You mean tap screen to show AOD?
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You mean tap screen to show AOD?
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Always on/tap to show
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Always on/tap to show
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Im currently not using it. But generally after diagnostic purposes enable features little by little.
At least the step counter is gone now. Lol still not achieving 97% deep sleep status.
Only 2% in over 8 hours?
You have cell and internet enabled during that time? If so this is near perfect.
Your work is done here...
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Only 2% in over 8 hours?
You have cell and internet enabled during that time? If so this is near perfect.
Your work is done here...
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Of course I do and I never use airplane mode or power saving modes. Accubattery is showing better values than GSAM though.
This is my overall consumption after 40% usage.
Starting to make and see some improvements.
Meh these so don't need to run. Google play Services occasionally does, but those media apps are security risks... just saying.
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It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Sony Xperia Z5 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The best SOT Android smartphone ever, this was confirmed by a lot users and famous blogs.
RyTekk said:
The best SOT Android smartphone ever, this was confirmed by a lot users and famous blogs.
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On Z5 maybe but With the Z5 Premium it's hard to reach 4hours screen on time...
Wave__ said:
On Z5 maybe but With the Z5 Premium it's hard to reach 4hours screen on time...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66164342&postcount=28
Ashray_Vk said:
Was using Intelliplug with eco conservative profile in kernel auditor. Also had undervolted all clock frequencies by 5 mV
Most of the other settings stayed at stock. The governor (interactive) was tweaked using heimdall's tweaks ( posted in z5 themes and apps section by a user, along with those power tweaks and setprop tweaks)
I felt amplify made most of the magic here. Helped a lot with wakelocks. Searched the net for guide to use amplify and it worked brilliantly. Phone was down to 50% and I had an SOT of 4.5+ hours.
Will try the new kernel and let you know in a day or two. I am pretty sure the kernel would work better if I gave it a day to settle.
For the previous kernel which I was testing, it was it's first run.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66164342&postcount=28
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Pretty sure I can get it to around 8 hours SOT atleast! But since I am very busy nowadays and my internship started today, it's gonna be a little hard
Best for me is 4:48 as reported by Battery Monitor Widget, but mostly is 3D games so I think is pretty good
I have my Phone 3 hours off Power, Battery goes down to 60% and the main app draining power is the Display with 17% as per the battery consumption chart.
In the Details to the batteryconsumption of the display it says the display was on for 1:35, however I hardly turned it on.
That is the same since LP and even with MM I reset already 3 times. no change.
I would love the meet someone with that great performance. mine seems just broken :/
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It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Sony Xperia Z5 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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I get 5 hours on average from 100% without using Wi-Fi and on H+ and my average use is what's app, Instagram, mobile payment, snap chat ( eats a lot) and taking pictures. My brightness is at half with automatic turned on
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!ALg0IZ2gdeTvo9A&v=3&ithint=photo,png
Such a pity that the battery is not awesome maybe due to bloatwares
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Such a pity that the battery is not awesome maybe due to bloatwares
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Actually I hope so. I am one step away from rooting my phone and hope that this might help, especially with greenify having root access.
The device is almost unusable anymore with this battery life. I factory reset once a week, don't even have many apps or do much with it but it still lasts just half a day.
After a factory reset the first 2-3 days are almost fine up to one day.
I dont even think 2 days are possible if I don't activate the whole time...
pilzj said:
Actually I hope so. I am one step away from rooting my phone and hope that this might help, especially with greenify having root access.
The device is almost unusable anymore with this battery life. I factory reset once a week, don't even have many apps or do much with it but it still lasts just half a day.
After a factory reset the first 2-3 days are almost fine up to one day.
I dont even think 2 days are possible if I don't activate the whole time...
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Xperia Z5 Tmobile USA
2.5HR SOT
Mobile radio likes to stay active throughout the day. Have tried many roms/ factory resets.
Hopefully next software update....feel like i've been saying that for years about various android phones...
stealthj said:
Xperia Z5 Tmobile USA
2.5HR SOT
Mobile radio likes to stay active throughout the day. Have tried many roms/ factory resets.
Hopefully next software update....feel like i've been saying that for years about various android phones...
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Similar here on T-mo USA
I wonder if the lack of proper tmous radio tuning leads the phone to drain on LTE... Have noticed more drain (phone doesn't seem to have doze lines anymore even though BBS shows doze..) after rooting/xposed. So much that I uninstalled xposed as a test.
Going to try dropping back to HSPA and see if its better.
sovanyio said:
Similar here on T-mo USA
I wonder if the lack of proper tmous radio tuning leads the phone to drain on LTE... Have noticed more drain (phone doesn't seem to have doze lines anymore even though BBS shows doze..) after rooting/xposed. So much that I uninstalled xposed as a test.
Going to try dropping back to HSPA and see if its better.
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Not sure if that may attribute to it but i dont doubt it...
I did have the courage to flash one of those US roms, even though my FPS (fingerprint sensor ) didin't work...
But eventually after a few days, battery drain came back....
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Not sure if that may attribute to it but i dont doubt it...
I did have the courage to flash one of those US roms, even though my FPS (fingerprint sensor ) didin't work...
But eventually after a few days, battery drain came back....
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Hmmmm may be onto something here, right away I'm noticing that Yappy is not hanging on sending messages. What I think was happening for me was low LTE signal was causing Yappy to wake up every minute to restart itself. Not sure why Yappy wasn't showing in battery settings, but my phone seems to be connected now that I'm on a 'stable network'. Really wish we could get the tuning on tmous :/
I'm getting average 7-9 hours SOT with my Xperia Z5 Dual E6683... btw is it normal for the GPS indicator at the battery usage page to show that it's constantly turned on throughout the whole day eventhough it's turned off?
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Hmmmm may be onto something here, right away I'm noticing that Yappy is not hanging on sending messages. What I think was happening for me was low LTE signal was causing Yappy to wake up every minute to restart itself. Not sure why Yappy wasn't showing in battery settings, but my phone seems to be connected now that I'm on a 'stable network'. Really wish we could get the tuning on tmous :/
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Aaaand nope, got the fast dormancy wakelocks and battery drained faster than before. Reflashing the stock system and wiping cache now to see if I can get doze lines again.
Edit: Battery is better but I think because of things I did after reflashing. Installed WLD since I have root now and noticed that google maps (and later android pay) were generating NLP wakelocks, so cleared data on google maps since I have location reporting off already and then denied location to android pay and it seems to be back to normal. If this is stable for a few days I may try Xposed again.
On average daily use with WiFi on and location enabled most of the time I will get 5 hours SOT. I have pushed it close to 6 with reducing my brightness to almost nothing and only using the phone for messaging. Several factors will affect SOT. For me getting group messages or picture messages drops battery life. Using Chrome also drops it.
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On average daily use with WiFi on and location enabled most of the time I will get 5 hours SOT. I have pushed it close to 6 with reducing my brightness to almost nothing and only using the phone for messaging. Several factors will affect SOT. For me getting group messages or picture messages drops battery life. Using Chrome also drops it.
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Curious what your app list is?
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Curious what your app list is?
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Are you asking the app usage in the day? Funny enough my battery life today was a definite miss but it got me through the workday and that's all I need.
Nah I meant like what apps do you have that are non-stock..
But looks like my phone is back to not dozing.. losing ~10% overnight, where I used to lose 3%. Looks like I'm getting the Mobile Radio Active bug displaying through google play services. Clearing caches of apps that appear to be causing it as I go...
Since the update, I have definitely experienced worse battery life, especially overnight on standby/idle and also overall when I'm at home on WiFi in general, I have read a few posts about the November security patch causing worse battery on a lot of different phones so I don't know if it is because of that, I just hope either the December patch sorts it, or HMD make the battery optimisation better in the next update patch from them soon, has anyone else noticed worse battery performance since Oreo?
Doesn't seem any different to me ill be honest.
For me it even seems to be a little bit better than on Nougat.
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
No battery drain here, my opinion seems the same good as on nougat to
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Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
mikote2000 said:
Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
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Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
Sorry, I'm a Spanish speaker and I made a free translation. I attach you a screenshot. Maybe it can help you to find the menu. It's the first option (Option which is switched on).
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Asos2XZUuAPZnK1E20Hva6npEr2INw
mitchst2 said:
Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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2WildFirE said:
Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
Powered by Nokia 8
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Ok already using that, was looking for some sort of global switch.
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
MrBelter said:
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
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Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
mitchst2 said:
Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
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Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
dannejanne said:
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
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Battery on oreo is awesome, if you want less energy use during sleep use "naptime" from playstore.
MrBelter said:
Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
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Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
mitchst2 said:
Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
MrBelter said:
If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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Same here, I have most of my apps disabled apart from things that actually need to be running like PingID for work authentication / MS Authenticator / emails and 4 or 5 other things.
Try "data saver" if you have that option in your OREO ROM
Yes I did say DATA saver
Go to Settings - type "data saver" in the search box - switch it on
Works magic for me with a standard OREO ROM and nothing else.
since 8.1 update, battery draining has been worse
Ok as you know the phones with the Xynos chip has pretty rubbish battery life but I've found a temp fix until samsung hopefully fix the issue. You won't notice any slow down or compromise the use of your phone.
All it is is set your phone to mid battery save and keep all the settings on but limit the cpu.
You can still play all the latest games without a stutter, you can't tell the cpu is being throttled.
Try it for a day see what you think, I also have Always on Display turned off for extra savings.
Interesting, will give it a try today, been averaging 3h40m for 50% battery usage (Not run it down to 0% yet) so will be able to see if it improves much
Says it has added over 4 hours to my battery life estimate
Thanks for the suggestion, will be testing soon.
My issue with my Exynos S9 is the standby. It's not completely terrible unless I'm in a crowded bar or an area with zero reception, but I can never get it to be good. Even with everything disabled (location, sync, AOD, lots of apps, etc) I can't get it under 1.5% drain per hour. With it all on I can easily hit 5% drain per hour, sometimes more, which is weird, cause the actual SOT doesn't take much more than this; 8-10% when stationary on WiFi, 12-15% when moving on mobile data.
Seriously the SOT on this thing is great (FHD+, haven't tried QHD+ yet). I reckon I could easily hit 7 hours, possibly getting up to 10 if I'm just browsing/watching shows in bed all day. But dear god the standby is driving me nuts.
SponTen said:
Thanks for the suggestion, will be testing soon.
My issue with my Exynos S9 is the standby. It's not completely terrible unless I'm in a crowded bar or an area with zero reception, but I can never get it to be good. Even with everything disabled (location, sync, AOD, lots of apps, etc) I can't get it under 1.5% drain per hour. With it all on I can easily hit 5% drain per hour, sometimes more, which is weird, cause the actual SOT doesn't take much more than this; 8-10% when stationary on WiFi, 12-15% when moving on mobile data.
Seriously the SOT on this thing is great (FHD+, haven't tried QHD+ yet). I reckon I could easily hit 7 hours, possibly getting up to 10 if I'm just browsing/watching shows in bed all day. But dear god the standby is driving me nuts.
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Standby drain will be higher if your phone is in a pocket, doze only kicks in when the phone is sitting completely still so no sensors are active like gyro etc (unless that has changed in Oreo)
So standby overnight should be significantly better than when you're out and about with it
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Standby drain will be higher if your phone is in a pocket, doze only kicks in when the phone is sitting completely still so no sensors are active like gyro etc (unless that has changed in Oreo)
So standby overnight should be significantly better than when you're out and about with it
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Yeah makes sense, but it still drains 1% per hour overnight, whereas other phones I've used only drain about 0.5%.
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Yeah makes sense, but it still drains 1% per hour overnight, whereas other phones I've used only drain about 0.5%.
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1% or even 0.5% per hour is a bit much tbh, I see about 2% drain for around 8-10 hours
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1% or even 0.5% per hour is a bit much tbh, I see about 2% drain for around 8-10 hours
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That's also the consensus I've been seeing elsewhere.
No idea how to fix. Seems that only my HTC 10, which has horrible SOT (drains about 25% per hour) can get standby this good, and yet it's still worse than most other people's.
2.5% per hour on average during the day with location and sync (but not AOD) on is actually good for my S9, yet it's still poor compared to everyone else's it seems. Today, with location and sync off, I'm averaging 1.5% standby drain per hour. AccuBattery staying 86% deep sleep, whereas it's closer to 65% when location/sync are on.
idunnolol, maybe I have poor signal? I'm usually on 2-3 bars. Or maybe an app I use is sucking power? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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That's also the consensus I've been seeing elsewhere.
No idea how to fix. Seems that only my HTC 10, which has horrible SOT (drains about 25% per hour) can get standby this good, and yet it's still worse than most other people's.
2.5% per hour on average during the day with location and sync (but not AOD) on is actually good for my S9, yet it's still poor compared to everyone else's it seems. Today, with location and sync off, I'm averaging 1.5% standby drain per hour. AccuBattery staying 86% deep sleep, whereas it's closer to 65% when location/sync are on.
idunnolol, maybe I have poor signal? I'm usually on 2-3 bars. Or maybe an app I use is sucking power? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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There's a few people with this drain problem and up to now we're starting to think it might be related to the modem, as with the SIM removed the extra drain is gone
It also looks like it might be related to which region/CSC firmware you have running, I am running the United Kingdom O2U firmware and do not see this extra drain
But this is all theory / guesses right now, nothing solid
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There's a few people with this drain problem and up to now we're starting to think it might be related to the modem, as with the SIM removed the extra drain is gone
It also looks like it might be related to which region/CSC firmware you have running, I am running the United Kingdom O2U firmware and do not see this extra drain
But this is all theory / guesses right now, nothing solid
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Yeah makes sense. I'm in Australia, not sure how to find my firmware version. I'm guessing it's in Software Information? But there are a lot of numbers.
I find the Exynos modems seem a little worse than the Snapdragon ones where I live, though it could just be the specific places where I work and travel.
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Yeah makes sense. I'm in Australia, not sure how to find my firmware version. I'm guessing it's in Software Information? But there are a lot of numbers.
I find the Exynos modems seem a little worse than the Snapdragon ones where I live, though it could just be the specific places where I work and travel.
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Samsung Phone INFO app from the play store will give you all the info you need
*Detection* said:
There's a few people with this drain problem and up to now we're starting to think it might be related to the modem, as with the SIM removed the extra drain is gone
It also looks like it might be related to which region/CSC firmware you have running, I am running the United Kingdom O2U firmware and do not see this extra drain
But this is all theory / guesses right now, nothing solid
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I think I isolated the issue by disabling extra packages last night, but I don't know which of them. Will see after tonight for sure.
Can you please enable aod (even though it will be turned off between 12-7AM) and the facebook packages for a night? It will help us narrow down the issues.
I used your settings - fb -aod and still had drain.
Will flash the O2 firmware if the drain continues overnight.
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I think I isolated the issue by disabling extra packages last night, but I don't know which of them. Will see after tonight for sure.
Can you please enable aod (even though it will be turned off between 12-7AM) and the facebook packages for a night? It will help us narrow down the issues.
I used your settings - fb -aod and still had drain.
Will flash the O2 firmware if the drain continues overnight.
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Yea sure, so enable AOD but set it to turn itself off between 12am-7am?
Enable FB packages
I`ll set that all up tonight, then charge to 100% before bed, see where it is in the morning
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Yea sure, so enable AOD but set it to turn itself off between 12am-7am?
Enable FB packages
I`ll set that all up tonight, then charge to 100% before bed, see where it is in the morning
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Thanks. Would've done it myself, but I want to know if disabling some of the services isolates the issue.
Maybe it's AOD+FB or other issue (that I might've fixed by mistake). Took this post as a reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76543514&postcount=49
Disabled some of the packages until I got bored + the ones you disabled.
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Thanks. Would've done it myself, but I want to know if disabling some of the services isolates the issue.
Maybe it's AOD+FB or other issue (that I might've fixed by mistake). Took this post as a reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76543514&postcount=49
Disabled some of the packages until I got bored + the ones you disabled.
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I've always disabled both tbh, only left FB package manager or whatever it is needed for the GearVR on my S7 for a while when I was using the Gear, but got bored of that and disabled them all, AOD gets disabled straight away, phone definitely cannot be as deep sleeping if that is active, and the screen is using power the whole time too, albeit only the pixels that are lit, but still more than having it 100% off
I tested with AOD on and off on my S7 and got huge overnight drain with it enabled vs off, same throughout the day, the phone couldn't enter Doze fully iirc
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I've always disabled both tbh, only left FB package manager or whatever it is needed for the GearVR on my S7 for a while when I was using the Gear, but got bored of that and disabled them all, AOD gets disabled straight away, phone definitely cannot be as deep sleeping if that is active, and the screen is using power the whole time too, albeit only the pixels that are lit, but still more than having it 100% off
I tested with AOD on and off on my S7 and got huge overnight drain with it enabled vs off, same throughout the day, the phone couldn't enter Doze fully iirc
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I didn't think AOD will drain battery since it's turned off in that interval? I had a OK drain after factory reset with AOD on. So idk what the hell is happening.
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I didn't think AOD will drain battery since it's turned off in that interval? I had a OK drain after factory reset with AOD on. So idk what the hell is happening.
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I meant when I left it enabled and on the display the whole time, different phone and different version of Android though
Maybe after the factory reset, because the system apps are back to their original versions, drain is OK, then when they update back to the newest the bug is brought back? Or are you updating everything 100% before testing?
Samsung system apps get updated from the Samsung app store too so you'd need to sign into a Samsung account to update those iirc
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I meant when I left it enabled and on the display the whole time, different phone and different version of Android though
Maybe after the factory reset, because the system apps are back to their original versions, drain is OK, then when they update back to the newest the bug is brought back? Or are you updating everything 100% before testing?
Samsung system apps get updated from the Samsung app store too so you'd need to sign into a Samsung account to update those iirc
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Everything was up to date before testing. So I have no idea what is causing the drain to lag.
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Samsung Phone INFO app from the play store will give you all the info you need
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I think I'm on ARD4? That's the last 4 numbers of Bootloader and PDA Version. CSC is ARCA and Baseband is ARD6.
I've already got FB disabled, amongst pretty much anything unnecessary. Although I do use FB Messenger as everyone where I live uses it.
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I think I'm on ARD4? That's the last 4 numbers of Bootloader and PDA Version. CSC is ARCA and Baseband is ARD6.
I've already got FB disabled, amongst pretty much anything unnecessary. Although I do use FB Messenger as everyone where I live uses it.
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ARD4 is the firmware before latest, apparently the latest BRE5 fixes some drain bugs and other things
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Everything was up to date before testing. So I have no idea what is causing the drain to lag.
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Ah well, we'll see tomorrow if FB / AOD causes it for me, if not then at least you've disabled whatever was causing it
Export your package disabler list and save on a PC for future in case you reset again
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ARD4 is the firmware before latest, apparently the latest BRE5 fixes some drain bugs and other things
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I have heard that. Will defs be testing, cheers.
Hi guys,
Have been using my new note 9 after replacing it with my s8+. So far it's a pretty good phone. One of the primary reasons for me to get was the large battery such that it will last m even more longer. But I have been noticing poor performance everyday. At the end of the day, I am bleeding to 10%. The s8+ was given to my wife and I compared her usage vs mine and for same amount of screen time I ended up at 30% and she was at 67%. I have less amount of apps installed than hers and she is heavy user of all social media apps. I have been observing my battery performance and what seems to be draining the most is the Android system, Google play services and Android OS. They claim all together half of my battery life. I noticed that there was an update right after I setup my note 9 initially and not sure if that could have caused it. Is there any way I can reverse it to see if it was the update? I have already tried wiping out the cache and shutting down all background activities on those items and blocked notification on pretty much most of the apps. How is everyone else's experience on the battery? I forgot to capture screen shot but will do it at the end of today.
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Hi guys,
Have been using my new note 9 after replacing it with my s8+. So far it's a pretty good phone. One of the primary reasons for me to get was the large battery such that it will last m even more longer. But I have been noticing poor performance everyday. At the end of the day, I am bleeding to 10%. The s8+ was given to my wife and I compared her usage vs mine and for same amount of screen time I ended up at 30% and she was at 67%. I have less amount of apps installed than hers and she is heavy user of all social media apps. I have been observing my battery performance and what seems to be draining the most is the Android system, Google play services and Android OS. They claim all together half of my battery life. I noticed that there was an update right after I setup my note 9 initially and not sure if that could have caused it. Is there any way I can reverse it to see if it was the update? I have already tried wiping out the cache and shutting down all background activities on those items and blocked notification on pretty much most of the apps. How is everyone else's experience on the battery? I forgot to capture screen shot but will do it at the end of today.
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I'm chiming in because I'm currently using the Note 9 ATT variant. My battery life has been pretty decent, but it's tough because the usage and even my "all day" and your "all day" can differ so much. Are you using 1080 resolution or did you set it to the higher resolution? I'm also running the ATT update you mentioned. But I'm also using wifi calling, not sure if that hurts or helps battery life, I haven't used it on my previous unlocked international HTC devices, so I'm just starting to experiment.
Have you enabled any of the battery optimization?
You can go to settings/device maintenance and click on battery on the bottom. I have it set to off in the "presets" but at the lower part of the page you can see "app power monitor" and see the app's power usage per hour. If you've got some that are higher, you can click on just those apps to check them on the list, and then click "save power" and see if your battery life gets better.
Possibly if you're using always on display you can modify that, if it's not something you really need and have already addressed.
Thanks for your reply. I am not running any battery optimization. I wanted to try default. Yes, I looked at battery usage per app and don't find anything bothering or consuming extra battery. Resolution is set to 1080 and always on display is off. Also. Wifi calling is on at all times. I am not sure if I am expecting too much but after using s8+ for over a year I was expecting much decent battery life with less than half of the apps installed on s8+ and having a bigger battery on this beast. I will need to find out how to lower down those Android system, os and Google play services.
My device is unlocked but on AT&T's network and I'm running my screen at max resolution and close to max brightness. My screen and AOD are always one and two with the O/S running a distant third or fourth sometimes fifth. If Google Play Services is consuming that much battery it is constantly running in the background trying to sync or pull data which it's not getting. Focus on that application and you should be fine, my phone is typically at greater than 50% at the end of the day and I use it all the time.
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My device is unlocked but on AT&T's network and I'm running my screen at max resolution and close to max brightness. My screen and AOD are always one and two with the O/S running a distant third or fourth sometimes fifth. If Google Play Services is consuming that much battery it is constantly running in the background trying to sync or pull data which it's not getting. Focus on that application and you should be fine, my phone is typically at greater than 50% at the end of the day and I use it all the time.
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How do you find which app or service is running in background which is trying to pull or sync data?
Just a note, I had to drop t-mobile to make a point with them for screwing with my account. Houston has good coverage but the network is congested and that is an understatement. My battery life went down on my V20 and my note4 when on ATT's network. Not that the reception was always poor, because it is very poor at my house, but speeds and latency on ATTs LTE were like going back to HSPA. Sometimes it was better to turn off LTE and just put up with the super high latency to get decent speeds on ATT.
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How do you find which app or service is running in background which is trying to pull or sync data?
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Go into settings/apps/Google Play Services/Battery and see what it's been doing. You can restrict the app as well from there I believe, also clear the cache. As I stated I would focus on that app specifically.
My experience was rough when I first got the phone as well. I factory restored with Odin and used ADB to remove all the apps I was not going to use. I then i stalled all my apps and the battery life took a hit again. I'd come home from a 9 hour day of work and be in the 40s. I downloaded betterbatterystats and let it monitor my phone overnight. I found that com.att.iqi was running all the time and constantly causing wake locks. I downloaded package disabler pro and disabled that package. Now when I leave work I am at 75% battery for the past two days. By bed time my phone has been off the charger for 18 hours with about 4 hours screen on time and I'm between 25%-35% which is outstanding. I made a thread with my complaint comparing the battery to my iPhone X and was called a troll because android can do no wrong. In short get betterbatterystats and package disabler pro.
Thanks for this, I was wondering if betterbatterystats would work on my Note 9, but hadn't researched it yet. It's a great app specifically for targeting issues like this, but I've always used it on rooted devices so I didn't recall if it worked on unrooted devices. I'm looking forward to trying it over the next few days and slimming this thing down.
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Thanks for this, I was wondering if betterbatterystats would work on my Note 9, but hadn't researched it yet. It's a great app specifically for targeting issues like this, but I've always used it on rooted devices so I didn't recall if it worked on unrooted devices. I'm looking forward to trying it over the next few days and slimming this thing down.
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Try Wake lock detector lite. One simple adb command allows you see wakeup locks etc ..
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My battery life on the ATT version has been garbage too. I was going to return it, but I missed my 14 day window. Thus far, my S9+ was a better device, but I'm hoping the little bugs get squashed in an upcoming update.
One thing I'm wondering about is Bixby. My battery life seems to be pretty decent with ATT. I don't use Bixby, although I haven't disabled the app, I don't have it set up or signed in.
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My experience was rough when I first got the phone as well. I factory restored with Odin and used ADB to remove all the apps I was not going to use. I then i stalled all my apps and the battery life took a hit again. I'd come home from a 9 hour day of work and be in the 40s. I downloaded betterbatterystats and let it monitor my phone overnight. I found that com.att.iqi was running all the time and constantly causing wake locks. I downloaded package disabler pro and disabled that package. Now when I leave work I am at 75% battery for the past two days. By bed time my phone has been off the charger for 18 hours with about 4 hours screen on time and I'm between 25%-35% which is outstanding. I made a thread with my complaint comparing the battery to my iPhone X and was called a troll because android can do no wrong. In short get betterbatterystats and package disabler pro.
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Thanks. I will try out betterbatterystats.
ClubDownforce said:
My battery life on the ATT version has been garbage too. I was going to return it, but I missed my 14 day window. Thus far, my S9+ was a better device, but I'm hoping the little bugs get squashed in an upcoming update.
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I actually managed to return mine and got another note 9 thinking that I would try it without doing the first update. Unfortunately that software update thing popped up while I was using the phone and I hit continue by mistake. I am kind of thinking about returning this one and getting the s9 plus if I still have this crappy battery life.
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I actually managed to return mine and got another note 9 thinking that I would try it without doing the first update. Unfortunately that software update thing popped up while I was using the phone and I hit continue by mistake. I am kind of thinking about returning this one and getting the s9 plus if I still have this crappy battery life.
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I'm not a battery life hawk,but,there's a few things you can do without crippling your phone (some already mentioned) before throwing in the towel.
1) Go to each app in SETTINGS > APPS > MOBILE DATA & turn off ALLOW BACKGROUND DATA USAGE on apps that have this option & where you're absolutely sure this will not impact something important to your usage.
2) Package Disabler Pro was already mentioned,it's well worth the price of admission. This is where you'll likely see the biggest improvement,surely no one here uses every single feature/app on any phone,force stop & disable what you're not using.
3) Again,I'm not a battery stat ninja,I just use my phone as I see fit,but,others have suggested try using FHD instead of WQHD for screen resolution. I myself use WQHD,but,I'm content with my battery life,however,I'd give it a try if I felt the need.
4) If you have NFC on,turn it off until you need to use it,access to it is quick & easy. I myself do not use NFC,but,even if I did,I can't imagine I'd use it to the point to where I'd leave it on 24/7 for convenience of use.
What's important to your usage is in the eye of the beholder,so,that's the extent of my recommendations for battery recommendations. The few I've mentioned should net some improvement without negatively affecting your routine usage.
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Try Wake lock detector lite. One simple adb command allows you see wakeup locks etc ..
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Is this the app you're speaking of:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector.noroot&hl=en_US
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Is this the app you're speaking of:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector.noroot&hl=en_US
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Yes. But it seems to stop working once the battery level reaches a certain point. I think it was somewhere below 80% , probably 60% . I installed it last night.
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Limeybastard said:
Yes. But it seems to stop working once the battery level reaches a certain point. I think it was somewhere below 80% , probably 60% . I installed it last night.
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THX,gonna give it a go. :good:
I may drop the developer a line,since the app hasn't been updated in a while.
Perhaps there's been some changes in Android 8 that haven't been addressed.
Regardless,I'm gonna try it out.
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Is this the app you're speaking of:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector.noroot&hl=en_US
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I'm trying to ascertain which one to use. Apparently this app shows all wakelocks whereas better battery stats only shows partial wakelocks, from the small amount of research that I've done.
The dev apparently doesn't respond and has abandoned the app, again from research I've done
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I am trying a rundown tomorrow with power save. Just CPU and screen brightness. I left resolution and network usage on. I don't think brightness does much. It is supposed to be -10% but I have trained my auto brightness some and I have been having to turn it up. So I think only speed limiter CPU 70% is at play.
I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
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I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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I did have scanning on, so I went and turned them off. I have a Verizon variant, so I can't root. Do you have any recommendations for how to track down a rogue app or service that might be draining the battery?
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You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
Do you know anything about the... I think the setting is called Always On Display or something like that. The setting where when the phone is locked and the screen is off, it always displays the time and notification icons. I had it on my Pixel 2 and it worked great, it's almost necessary for me at this point. I have it turned on also on the 5, but it seems...finicky? At times it shuts off, especially at night. I used to keep my Pixel2 on my nightstand (just laying flat, not on a stand or anything) and the time would be on all night so I could see it at night if I woke up. With the 5 it seems to shut off in the dark. Additionally periodically during the day it sometimes all of sudden jumps to really high brightness, then back down to dim, sometimes it turns off completely and I have to hit the power button or the fingerprint reader to unlock the phone. Even doing the tap to wake doesn't work. Actually that double tap to wake doesn't seem to work at all regardless.
Any info on any of those issues you know about? I've been searching around and I've found basic references to some stuff with that always on display but no direct threads or anything specific.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
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Not too sure about AOD, I just went with defaults. But last night, my first with the P5, I unplugged at full charge and 7 + hours later it was at 100%. That's never happened but it was face down and on DND. Nonetheless, check out this thread, download the app, non root needs certain permissions, and let it run for a day or so. It should show you what you need to know.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Did you make sure to charge the phone to 100% before using it??? These lithium ion batteries need to be charged to the max if you want them to last. My pixel 5 wasn't even fully charged it was somewhere around 65% out of the box. I would leave it charging for a half hour or so once it hits 100% just to be sure.
I mean.. this is mine.
jobhax said:
I mean this mine.
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That looks similar to my first day of use. Excellent battery life so far.
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I mean.. this is mine.
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That's incredible. Next time include all 3 screens please. I could get 12 hours of on screen time all on wifi. Let's see you get that on 5G.
Real world battery is best.
I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
Coming from a worn out pixel 2xl this 5 is fabulous the battery is great. I accidentally left the flashlight on for an hour and it barely drained it. The battery is exceeding my expectations. Screen on time at 5 hours and I'm just at 49% with 10 hours remaining. I'm satisfied for sure
Also on Verizon, but no issues for me. Battery life has been amazing, I didn't charge last night (unintentional) and I was going until this afternoon, with mostly light usage. I've never experienced something like that before.
So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
I'm at 5 hours of screen on time and 17 hours use. The battery is exceptional and I can dedicate more time to work online because of it.
It sounds like you have ported a troublesome app over from your old phone to be honest. I think a factory reset would fix it.
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I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
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Mine says 3,900mAh and hasn't changed for two weeks, which irritates me. Battery life is... okay.
Curious
I'm losing apprx. 6-10% while I sleep. seems a little excessive compared to other testimonies. I have to usaul social media apps, messeging apps no gaming, no AOD.
Any insight is appreciated.
I aslo did the FR with copying from older phone as suggested in the thread.
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So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
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I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
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I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
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I just finally got my replacement last night from Verizon. Too early to tell if it fixed my battery issues because I had to set everything up and such. But If you have those issues, I would get a replacement. That's a faulty phone.