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Social Networks trying to take over the world?

Have you all noticed that Facebook, twitter, and other networks try to take over the world? Facebook in skyfire now, facebook is everywhere with "like" buttons, Social Networks are forced by freaking Motoblur, people reporting each their step: "I just ate Icecream!" "I just saw some weird dude." "People what to do? I got a ticket!"
Get your butt out of the computer/cellphone and go to the beach watch a sunset! Let your brain free for at least a moment!
While checking email in the morning, I see hundreds of posts from people about what they did on a hourly basis.
So pathetic. After all this I really want to delete facebook and add it to all possible filters.
What is your opinion of such invasion and zombification?

I say xda is better than facebook...
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I agree, but they are not taking over the world, they are taking over people who are stupid enough to think that facebook is their life.

+1!
Completely agree.
husam666 said:
I say xda is better than facebook...
You can meet intellecual minds here
I agree, but they are not taking over the world, they are taking over people who are stupid enough to think that facebook is their life.
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+1 to everything already said. I was starting to think i was the only person left in the world who wasn't on Facespace/Mybook etc.
XDA is still the best place for social notworking. In fact i'm notworking right now!

husam666 said:
I say xda is better than facebook...
You can meet intellecual minds here
I agree, but they are not taking over the world, they are taking over people who are stupid enough to think that facebook is their life.
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just dont add the idiots and ppl u dislike ... its simple really if u have some respect for yourself and dont worry about them getting upset at you ... its your life

This is a silly thread, of course they're not going to take over the world
Llama's already have

Its strange how people used to share things such as photos, and sentimental things in real life. And now people cant wait to upload to facebook.
I must confess i'm a twitter addict though (hopefully not in the: "i'm eating a sandwich kinda way")

It's only a fad. I remember the days when Friendster was cool and everyone was on it. Then came MySpace, and in that got canned with Facebook. Once FB floats, investors are gonna put a lot of pressure on the management to monetize their assets (users) and this is gonna push the engineers to their peak frustration. They'll start using codes that users hate, and sooner or later a new social network will start, and the cycle begins anew.

sakai4eva said:
It's only a fad. I remember the days when Friendster was cool and everyone was on it. Then came MySpace, and in that got canned with Facebook. Once FB floats, investors are gonna put a lot of pressure on the management to monetize their assets (users) and this is gonna push the engineers to their peak frustration. They'll start using codes that users hate, and sooner or later a new social network will start, and the cycle begins anew.
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Ha, the first social site I was on was bolt.com and that was 11 years ago. They haven't changed that much. Its just how other feel about them.
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Coldskiesfullofblue said:
Ha, the first social site I was on was bolt.com and that was 11 years ago. They haven't changed that much. Its just how other feel about them.
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And this changes the cycle because...

sakai4eva said:
And this changes the cycle because...
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The cycle doesn't change. Its the same thing with a trendy new presentation. Maybe a single new feature.
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Coldskiesfullofblue said:
The cycle doesn't change. Its the same thing with a trendy new presentation. Maybe a single new feature.
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Why does that sound suspiciously like... an Apple product?

sakai4eva said:
Why does that sound suspiciously like... an Apple product?
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Yeah, pumped full or carcinogens (echo)Steve Jobs?
I'm sure you want your last computer you'll ever use to be pretty.
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It's Web 2.0. Social Networks take over the world. What's the next step?

How you can call this a silly thread when off topic is full of silly/****ty/non sense threads in more than 96% of it´s all content?
In fact this is one of the few interesting threads where even the only posting trolls or jokes made a serious comment! FANTASTIC thread I say!
OT will have to change, seriously if not happens it will die
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This is a silly thread, of course they're not going to take over the world
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Im just getting really annoyed by facebook, twitter, and myspace stuff forced upon me. I install something, there yahoo toolbar forced, or facebook link.
I keep facebook just as an easy connection to friends, but not as my way of life. I go to facebook anytime and i see at least 10 of my friends sitting out there, where 9 out of these 10 post all what they did.
I also loved skyfire, but now its impossible to use it on my Magic at all. Instead of making that, they could have fixed video errors, that happen in 2 out of 3 videos. Plus there were no single movie that I could finish without an error.
Off topic: You guys should have seen the computer at my temporary workplace. It had 150 toolbars installed on IE, Starting from yahoo toolbar and ending with facebook toolbar. All kinds of notifiers and BS, forced on the noobs. Took me 2 hours to clean everything from it, including hundreds of viruses and bs.
It is clearly obvious that the goal of each social network is to capture people as many as possible. Alone I do not blame them. For the most part it is people's fault.
I was growing up in Ukraine, and a computer was something that we did once a month (if lucky enough). We did anything possible, from fishing to exploring... Were out from sunrise till sundown.
Even shared photos and proposed to girls in PERSON. Now people breaking up on freaking facebook, and seek a remedy for their problems...

AntonJart said:
Im just getting really annoyed by facebook, twitter, and myspace stuff forced upon me. I install something, there yahoo toolbar forced, or facebook link.
I keep facebook just as an easy connection to friends, but not as my way of life. I go to facebook anytime and i see at least 10 of my friends sitting out there, where 9 out of these 10 post all what they did.
I also loved skyfire, but now its impossible to use it on my Magic at all. Instead of making that, they could have fixed video errors, that happen in 2 out of 3 videos. Plus there were no single movie that I could finish without an error.
Off topic: You guys should have seen the computer at my temporary workplace. It had 150 toolbars installed on IE, Starting from yahoo toolbar and ending with facebook toolbar. All kinds of notifiers and BS, forced on the noobs. Took me 2 hours to clean everything from it, including hundreds of viruses and bs.
It is clearly obvious that the goal of each social network is to capture people as many as possible. Alone I do not blame them. For the most part it is people's fault.
I was growing up in Ukraine, and a computer was something that we did once a month (if lucky enough). We did anything possible, from fishing to exploring... Were out from sunrise till sundown.
Even shared photos and proposed to girls in PERSON. Now people breaking up on freaking facebook, and seek a remedy for their problems...
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I drove 2 hours to try to break up with my girlfriend. I just couldn't do it over the phone. It wouldn't be fair. In the end we decided to stick with each other. I like to think I'm a happier man for that

ChrisAnderson said:
It's Web 2.0. Social Networks take over the world. What's the next step?
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next step will be lowered monthly bill for web2.0 and raised monthly bill for old web ... naturally most folks will flock to the cheaper web2.0 "becuz thats what they use anyway" and by this happening , slowly will form a whitelist of "big sites" where users have a net id to sign in and u can be moderated , banned and sanctionated . the isp's will be free to push select sites(read :who they get the best offers from) at the users while the truly free internet , where anyone can make their own , and speak out , shall slowly fade away

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next step will be lowered monthly bill for web2.0 and raised monthly bill for old web ... naturally most folks will flock to the cheaper web2.0 "becuz thats what they use anyway" and by this happening , slowly will form a whitelist of "big sites" where users have a net id to sign in and u can be moderated , banned and sanctionated . the isp's will be free to push select sites(read :who they get the best offers from) at the users while the truly free internet , where anyone can make their own , and speak out , shall slowly fade away
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Actually, it's turning the other way around. The big players were bouncing around the idea of charging users more if they go to popular sites like FB and Google.

IDK why is the Op so facebook/social networks hater,
i dont have any toolbar nor viruses, eventhough i dont use an antivrus software or anything.
i have a fb account and i use it only for people i know... no need for strangers, they are always rejected...

Optimizing Views

Hey guys, wanted to post this publicly because I think we can throw ideas around, not just between people on XDATV but with anyone interested. Basically, I want to share some of the things I've learned from youtube over the years about optimizing the impact of our videos. If we work together on this, everyone benefits.
I assume everyone wants to see their view count go up. We make videos for people to watch, and the view count says how many times they've been watched. So that's the goal, and these ideas are all about achieving that goal. For each idea, I'm putting what we'd do, and then explain why.
1. Post only on your designated day--or if you must, on a day when no one else is posting--so there is only one video posted per day.
Most of the views come from that Latest Video on XDATV box on the right hand column on the portal. At the very least this idea is a courtesy to one another because we aren't taking time on that prime real estate away from each other. Our videos shouldn't compete with our other videos. We're working as a whole, however disjointedly. I wouldn't post more than one video a day even on my own channel for the very same reason. Actually, that's not true... I have posted more than one video in a day on my youtube channel before, with the explicit intention of burying the first. Because that's what posting more than one video a day does.
Videos do not work like blogs. Especially not when the videos are time-sensitive, as many of our videos are. And looking on every other tech blog that also makes videos, you'll see they do this too. The reason the first video gets so few views is because even the most dedicated viewers tend to check Youtube only once per day. Also, the longer a video goes before the next is posted, the more views it gets. Something to keep in mind if you want to post more in a week than your timeslot allows.
2. Tell the viewers to subscribe to the youtube channel, or at least to check out more of our videos.
Currently, our videos are averaging more views than the xdadevelopers youtube channel has subscribers. While that's a good indication of future growth, it still means that more people are watching than are subscribed. Often, people just forget to do it. Given the linear growth in subscribers versus the radically varying video views, it means that we aren't building a steady viewer base, we're mostly getting one-time views in passing.
Now, I know we're here more or less to provide a service to the forum, and if that's all we want XDATV to be, then there's no reason to follow this idea. However, XDATV could be a great marketing tool for xda-developers, which would make the relationship between XDATV and the forum less parasitic and more symbiotic. Bad analogy, but I can't think of a better one right now. I can't think of any reason why we wouldn't want XDATV to bring people to the forum and likewise, instead of only the forum bringing people to XDATV. Our subscriber count means nothing on the forums, but on Youtube, subscribers mean baseline views. (And if videos are getting far fewer views than the channel has subscribers, something went very wrong. That's the case with my channel, went on too many hiatuses.) Building it needs to be a big focus.
3. Provide links, article titles, tags, and video titles with each video.
For the most part we all provide article titles and links, but the more, the better. Internet searches pick up on everything in the video description, so the more detailed it is, the more traffic your video will get. Tags and video titles are the same, but we don't do them. Tags provide keywords. You know this, I'm just reiterating. Imagine every reason you can that someone might need your video. Your tags should be all the words you think they would search to find your video.
Lastly, the video titles. When I find tech videos for other sites, if it's news they title it with one or two of the biggest headlines, put ambiguously. That way people searching for any related headlines will be more inclined to watch. Stuff like "NEW EVO 3D!!!!" or "Xperia Mini Revealed!" And so on. And trust me, people click it. If it's a tutorial, review, or even interview, the title tends to be what you can do with the info in the video. Chad sorta did that a bit ago, but it should be simpler. Something like, "Root Your Desire HD". Shawn, your interview with Mendozinas could have been titled "Make Your Own Themes on Android". The titles are relevant, but capitalize on what people can get out of it, rather than what it's about or, as we're titling them now, what it is. And then, providing these things for Svetius will make his job a whole lot easier.
I was pretty sure I had more, but I forgot for now. So go make words below this post, preferably in some coherent order and pertinence.
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Werd. Agreed. I don't give XDA as much love as I give the other two sites I work for. I might start soon.

Azrienoch, the podcast should also pick up the viewing count and any description added to the files, so such information is always good, particularly links.
I just hope that we can get the update process sorted out so you guys can do your encoding and then update the podcast without any effort on your part. I'm not sure what we need to do to submit the podcast to iTunes etc, but I am reluctant to do so until the podcast is updated promptly (I guess I could open it up for other users to upload the videos instead, but that creates other issues).
At the moment, there will be a two week gap in updates as I won't be able to do it until the end of the month.
There are still some adjustments I want to make to it (icon, description etc), so if you guys want anything altered or changed then let me know. Most parts are adjustable (I've noticed that meltwater is in the copywrite bit - it only showed up on my GoogleReader, I'll remove it when I can - it is because I'm using my FeedBurner version of the youTube feed to get around my access issues...which I setup a while back).
If we want to move it to a common account or something then it will have no effect on the podcast link itself (as you just update feedburner account). Also we can set-up a common feedburner account too if you guys want to view the stats.
As of Today, the stats are: 896 views of 34 items
If only youtube would re-enable the rss feeds directly and then the podcast would also count on the viewing count too. I can also add a podcast item about subscribing to the channel too, but not everyone wants to use data-plans to access content on the go.

A better line of communication with the news team and owners/maintainers of the site wouldn't hurt, either. At the present time it's like a 5 story office building, and the door is locked to each floor, so you have to call and request it to be opened over intercom.

Today's stats are: 1,446 views of 34 items
Shame as it is just starting to grow, it won't be updated for a while.

meltwater said:
Today's stats are: 1,446 views of 34 items
Shame as it is just starting to grow, it won't be updated for a while.
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No worries, man. We're in this for the long haul.

azrienoch said:
No worries, man. We're in this for the long haul.
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Shall look forward to the new videos when I return! Cheers.

Great tips, Jeff.

Only room for one social networking site

So Google+ is soon to be released to the public. Do you think Facebook is to big and powerful to fall
Or is Google simply to powerful to fail?
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Facebook is dead. Google has all other smartphone competitors by the gonads now with Google+. G+ will be the prevailing social site and Google will have total control of it and whether they allow competitors to use it. Facebook will be a sinking weight on Google's competitors because of it dying off.

Only time will tell.

Both could exist - it's possible. There are the people who are sick of facebook and that whole ecosystem that want to move to the next best thing. But then there are the people who are engrained into facebook and so are their friends, and they have no motivation to leave it. Its up for grabs really.

Apple users and non geeks will stick to facebook....
The rest of us will use G+ and probably peek at facebook once a day to see what people we dont give a crap about are up to....
Or something....
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How until we see a social network from Apple??
Ping or whatever that crap was/is called doesnt count as that is obvious fail.....

conantroutman said:
Apple users and non geeks will stick to facebook....
The rest of us will use G+ and probably peek at facebook once a day to see what people we dont give a crap about are up to....
Or something....
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How until we see a social network from Apple??
Ping or whatever that crap was/is called doesnt count as that is obvious fail.....
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If Apple creates their own social networking, it will be a hype for the nongeeks. My friends love anything what apple created. -_-
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marlin29311 said:
Both could exist - it's possible. There are the people who are sick of facebook and that whole ecosystem that want to move to the next best thing. But then there are the people who are engrained into facebook and so are their friends, and they have no motivation to leave it. Its up for grabs really.
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This.^^
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They said Myspace would never go down and look what happened
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I'm using FB and G+, but i can't completely move to G+ unless a lot of my friends does the jump too.
Right now, G+ is "I-want-to-share-something-nerdy", and FB is the place i talk to my friends with no nerdy articles or questions

I got an invite to g+
I tried to get on and got a message saying there is an age requirement. If they keep the age limit too high then all the teenagers will stay on fb and get further attached to it.
Btw I'm 16, have a facebook, but barely use it

Good let the kids stay on facebook. Facebook is turning into what myspace used to be.

RinZo said:
Good let the kids stay on facebook. Facebook is turning into what myspace used to be.
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Which is why I avoid it.
I actually never used MySpace for anything besides listening to music

Agree. Let justin bieber's fans on fb. They should maintain the age requirement, it's a good thing IMO.
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RinZo said:
Good let the kids stay on facebook. Facebook is turning into what myspace used to be.
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forelli said:
Agree. Let justin bieber's fans on fb. They should maintain the age requirement, it's a good thing IMO.
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Eeeewwww
He mentioned the gay 12 year old that thinks he/she/it can sing
Oh I like your tapatalk sig btw

Who wants to be in podcast/video show?

Attention Mods/XDA staff. We have permission from svetius to post this here. I wasn't sure about doing this either, so I made sure to ask first. We will not directly link to our site so that we do not leech traffic from XDA. We aren't trying to compete with XDA either. We are looking for interns/unpaid staff interested in tech and mobile news, so the job board doesn't fit us.
Alright guys, here's the deal. I'm looking for video/podcast personalities for a website I'm involved in. The site is Install or Not dot com. I'm not linking to it directly so we don't get in trouble with XDA by leeching their traffic.
If you are interested in becoming a personality and can commit to several hours a week in recording audio and/or video, please post a reply here, and we'll talk about it.
There are three unpaid positions available at the moment. We're looking for video personalities, podcast personalities, and media editors. Requirements for the positions are listed below. You may be able to do more than one thing if you want to and are good enough.
All positions must adhere to the following rules:
- You MUST be able to commit at least five hours per week to recording and researching the shows.
- Media editors may need to commit ten or so hours, depending on skill if they are doing shows as well. You need to be available during the week and on weekends.
- You must be able to work within the site guidelines that we set.
- You must be able to be fair and unbias in your discussions. I don't care if you hate Windows Phone, iOS, or Android. You have to be a fair reporter.
To apply for a spot, please prepare a sample of your ability for me to preview.
Podcast sample should feature you talking about two different articles of your choosing for a minimum of ten minutes. Podcasts are meant for spinning out the news and discussing it with others. Try to put your own spin on the news. Make it entertaining. It doesn't need to be funny, it just needs to hold my attention. Feel free to work on submissions as a team if you know other people who want to be involved.
Video samples should follow the same guidelines as the podcast. I'd prefer to see a ten minute video of you talking about a few articles or topics that interest you. Videos are more generally targeted than podcasts. Again, this needs to be interesting and entertaining. it does not need to be funny, it just needs to hold the viewer's attention. Videos are solo pieces.
Editors should either team up with others who are submitting clips, or make a work on their own from the podcast and video guidelines. If you have prior experience in editing, you may submit any prior work as well, so long as it is appropriate. (no porn )

FYI: The positions are unpaid internships.
Site guidelines are set by myself and the owner. They may change from time to time, but you will always know in advance. Generally, just use common sense. It's not MTV or Cinemax; it's a tech news blog.
We don't want excessive profanity in any media on the site. A few bad words throughout the media is fine, but nothing excessive, and nothing horrible. If you can't say it on cable TV, you can't say it on our site either.
Be open to new ideas and other operating systems or OEMs. I don't care how much iOS pisses you off, or how bad Samsung screwed you over on a phone. You will report on the news in a fair and balanced manner. This includes reporting on iOS, Apple, Motorola, RIM, webOS, Symbian, and anything else you can think of that might make you cringe. If you can't wrap your head around being fair to everyone, do not apply.

I too being involved in the site can say, this may look like not such an appealing postition for now, as it's unpaid - but we will surely value your contribution, which can in future but you on our regular team.
Some of the incentives of doing the job are:
Attend tech events
Gadgets to review
Meet big shots of the tech arena
Make a name and get fame for yourself
Adds value to your CV, which employer would not like a person who is popular on the internet ? This might become your full time job, who knows ?
A business card with a fancy position
An identity which can never be erased, yes that's the beauty of the internet - you might be gone and forgotten in the world, but on the internet your name and work will always stay !
And some other perks too, which I'd rather not mention on a public domain.
Besides, I would also like to tell you, you don't need to be a pro at anything to do this job, just be enthusiastic, dedicated and responsible - though you should know tech and shall be able to speak english !
Age, Nationality, Location, Occupation or Gener all of those do not matter as far as you can do the job !
So hit us up if you think you are in for it !
PS: If you think, audio or video is a bit too steep you can even write for us

Bump to the top.

Okay guys. I would like to participate in it. As you previously said that we can even write articles for you, I might be interested
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Back to the top.
If you guys know anyone who might be interested in doing this, please send them here as well.

Bump to the top, for the interested lot ! Send those PMs right away

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Interested, or just sending to the top?
We're looking for news writers as well.

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Interested, or just sending to the top?
We're looking for news writers as well.
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Too ugly for on air but yes I am interested in a writer position. Unpaid is completely fine with me. Plus a bump for old xda'er buds.

What do you prefer more forums or social media, Why?

A member in a forum more seems to be representing his knowledge and skills on a particular field more than his personal side. And it seems to be the other way with social media.
Both have UPs and Downs, forums greate for learning things, While social media seems better to hang around with close people and kill some time with memes.
So what do you most prefer?

Forums. I have never and will never use social media. You've already explained why much better than i could. :good:

Dirk said:
Forums. I have never and will never use social media. You've already explained why much better than i could. :good:
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Balish said:
It's an interesting question, thanks for it. I prefer reading articles or research papers to forums and social media . To be honest, I think that all the information that is posts on social media is unproved and sometimes it can bring more harm than benefits.
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Well, the harm is most often happens when someone doesn't understand the context. As you said if someone knows that social media is a fast but not a reliable source, potentially it may bring more benefits than harm. Though the point is still true, the majority of people are prone to be misled, from something we saw on social media, and it's also true that anyone can be subjected to the misbelief from the repetitive exposure to something.
And as with social media campaigns are really cheap and has incredible targeting options it is really really easy to force some junk on people.

greysolive said:
forums in the past, now I prefer social media. Times change
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surprisingly, it seems to be the other way around for me. I'm not a someone grown with forums and then the big news of those social media comes, Actually, It's like 7 years, I'm having proper internet access and I used to be with social media a lot in those early days a lot.
But when it comes to learning and discussing things about something I do, only forums could to that. Though there are niche-specific communities in social media such as Facebook groups, they most often completely pure garbage with thousands of people trying to spam each other.

I do not like social media. I maintain a Facebook account so that friends and family who live far away have an easy way to get in touch, but that's it. These days I go around lamenting the shift from the "forum era" to the "social media era" of the internet to anyone who will listen.
Forums are great places for in-depth discussion and repositories of information. Social media is good for... advertising. Creating a social media account is basically opting-in to being told what you should think, feel, say, do, purchase, etc. - allllllll day long.
"Old fashioned" forums are nice and linear, text-based, etc.
The format of social media is too dang "shifty" for my liking. Formats and designs and layouts constantly changing, and it's all images and video clips and memes - seems to cater to and ENCOURAGE very short attention-spans. Conversation "threads" are nested and "ranked" in weird ways, often with the BEST and most informative contributions ending up hidden/not displayed because some stupid one-liner got a bunch of LOLz and nobody could be bothered to read the thoughtful replies ("tl;dr").