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I've been searching, and reading, and my eyes hurt. I normally don't like to post threads, but I'm left with no choice. If this topic has been covered, then I guess my searchin' skillz are stating to lack. Here is my delimna:
Rooted, Lagfix, enabled Side-loading, recently installed ClockworkMod, stock firmware. I ran a backup using ROM Manager/ClockworkMod. I was attempting to install the Mobile AP fix for WiFi Hotspotting from designgears. I downloaded the new kernel per instructions (Mobile AP ony). I first tried installing it using ROM Manager's boot option into Clockwork without renaming MobileAP.zip. Still received black screen when I open the Mobile AP settings that the new kernel was trying to fix. So I thought that the flash didn't work, so this time I renamed the kernel file to update.zip and did the standard method of flash using stock recovery mode.
Now the phone boots to the Galaxy S screen, then just a black screen. The bottom row buttons seem to be active, but nothing happens. Holding power....nothing. I have to pull the battery; however, I can boot into stock recovery.
Now here's the delimna. I can boot into recovery, but the update.zip file is NOT the one for ClockworkMod, its the modified kernel. Is there a way that I can browse the files on the phone so I can change the update.zip file? I want to put Clockwork's in place so I can restore using my backup made yesterday....It's not a huge order if I have to flashback to stock and lose everything as I usually do that everynow and again anyways (usually I'm prepared). I won't lose anything important that isn't already backed up except maybe some pictures....
BUT, I can't help but try. It's just me I like to break stuff and fix 'em. I want to try to run that backup I made. I have Odin, and I tried flashing the kernel back to stock (i had one hell of a time finding information on how to use it). As a matter of fact, I found instructions on HOW to use it, but I gave up trying to find useful information on how the program runs (like a user guide, what else can it do, that sort of thing....). I spent hours reading thread after thread........information overload I guess.
I figured someone might point me in the right direction. How can I browse/edit the contents of the phone while in Recovery or Download mode?
You could try letting the phone boot up, yes I know it's only a black screen, then plug in the usb to your PC and see if ADB works.
If so then just adb shell into it and work with command line.
I'm not sure if ADB would work in stock recovery mode but that's worth a shot too.
Excellent idea, but no luck. I can get the computer to recognize the phone in recovery mode, but ADB shows the device offline, and Windows Explorer shows 2 drives with the whole "insert disk into drive ..." message. Can't boot phone to enable "development mode", that might have something to do with it......unless I'm missing something?
swedishcancerboi said:
Excellent idea, but no luck. I can get the computer to recognize the phone in recovery mode, but ADB shows the device offline, and Windows Explorer shows 2 drives with the whole "insert disk into drive ..." message. Can't boot phone to enable "development mode", that might have something to do with it......unless I'm missing something?
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Wasn't sure if that would work or not.
So, if you turn it on and just let it sit as long as a normal boot, then try adb does anything work?
I actually let it sit for ~15 minutes. computer doesn't even register the usb being plugged in. I'm going to give it another go or two, but in about an hour I'm going to have to call it quits and just flash it with Odin. Don't want to give up yet, but I am driving out of town later this afternoon and must have my phone for the trip. Maybe I'll break it again tomorrow and play with it over the weekend!
Let me know if you have any other ideas. I'll let you know when I give up.
While on that subject (watch someone tell me to move my post after this.....), maybe I'll experiment with a new ROM. Any recommendations? (without OC, device is fast enough). I haven't read much on the different flavors available at the moment (I think I read something about a 2.2 from I9000 or something?).
swedishcancerboi said:
While on that subject (watch someone tell me to move my post after this.....), maybe I'll experiment with a new ROM. Any recommendations? (without OC, device is fast enough). I haven't read much on the different flavors available at the moment (I think I read something about a 2.2 from I9000 or something?).
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Hybrid from eugene is pretty fast especially if you add the voodoo kernel to it. Thats what I heard tho. Because when i tried it out it was pretty quick with out a lagfix and without autokiller. Only used it for 20 min tho as i couldn't get Titanium backup to work. I think the titanium problem is a hit or a miss.
well, I guess I'm going to have to load stock and wipe everything...oh well. Let's see how this goes. Then I'll start playing with ROMs this weekend. Thanks anyway!
swedishcancerboi said:
well, I guess I'm going to have to load stock and wipe everything...oh well. Let's see how this goes. Then I'll start playing with ROMs this weekend. Thanks anyway!
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Well, if your going to do that take an extra 2 minutes and load Eugenes Hybrid R3 while your at it. It's extremely easy to do and in my opinion the fastest thing we can put on these phones right now.
Vibrant ROM? is that safe? I mean, I know they are all Galaxy S, but is the hardware really that identical?
I don't think eugenes captivate hybrid is actually a vibrant rom. I think he just borrowed some of the better parts.
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Got it! I used the one click stock down loader to get the phone to boot. I then noticed that many of my files were still there, music, zips.....so I thought....maybe my backup is still there.
Instead of using my original root, I decided to try Unleash the Beast.applied it so I could load Rom Manager.i opened Rom manager and it showed my backup!
I tried restoring then without success (no update.zip) and had to flash clockwork (even though it showed it already loaded, guess it needed to be refreshed, makes sense since it is a fresh firmware), selected my restore and it ran like a charm.
I am just surprised. I thought the act of flashing the Rom would wipe everything. Apparently not if you never do the "master clear."
Thankfully I had just installed Rom Manager the day before and had a fresh backup. Looks liked I'm gonna have to start shelling out more beer money to the devs!
Now I can prepare to break it again and again. Let the fun begin!
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Nice. Yeah, stuff you have stored on your "internal SD" is safe between flashes. Of course apps, contacts, etc get wiped, but that's an easy fix.
"the more you know," eh? Ha!
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I have a refurb I897UCKB2 that I rooted and later lost USB connectivity. It is not drivers, pcs, or cables - I tried multiple and they all work for other Captivates. I have root explorer, titanium backup, etc working. I searched for files >1 and <60 days and found MANY in /system/xbin beyond the 3 that come on stock kb2. Can I safely use root explorer to delete them since it already has root access and is in memory? Will I be able to uninstall super-user after? What is the best process to remove roor traces without flashing via ODIN. I can transfer files wirelessly if that helps. Come on gurus... Who can figure out the best solution...
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Open another thread on the exact same thing?
Did you even try the dialer codes I posted in the other thread? If so did it do ANYTHING?
studacris said:
Open another thread on the exact same thing?
Did you even try the dialer codes I posted in the other thread? If so did it do ANYTHING?
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I will try that and report back. However, once the superuser app is gone I have no way to re-root without USB and I really doubt it will delete all those system files. I normally am willing to give anything a shot but I only have one chance to clean up before sending it back. I created a new thread to clearly show what I am up against and it is NOT a typical problem. There is no "automated" way that I can use (with high confidence) so I think a manual process makes sense in this case. I got no other feedback. I do appreciate your help - I just want to see if there are other options since it could easily wind up unrooted with no way to re-root and lots of trace files left over...
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I highly doubt samsung will take the time to go through your returned phones file system to make sure you didn't root. If they did that to your phone they would do that with all of them, that is a waste of man hours thus a waste of money for them.
They will fix the usb, reflash/master clear it, then give it to another person...
studacris said:
I highly doubt samsung will take the time to go through your returned phones file system to make sure you didn't root. If they did that to your phone they would do that with all of them, that is a waste of man hours thus a waste of money for them.
They will fix the usb, reflash/master clear it, then give it to another person...
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Thanks - my only concern is that they could have automated the check. Run a program that generates a "checksum" of stock files that can't change without root and they would know immediately. You are probably right but what I listed would no be hard at all..
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Disclaimer: I am still an android noob. Most of the information below is speculation based on what little i do know. Please flame accordingly
Some quick browsing came up with this link...
http://androidforums.com/captivate-all-things-root/170237-heres-how-you-unroot-your-captivate.html
The first post has a zip you can download to remove root. If you have the ability to sync files via network (such as dropbox) you can download the file to a PC and transfer it to your SD that way. Just replace the update.zip that you used to root the phone in the first place with the one you download through the link and run it through recovery mode.
(Note: you may be able to download it directly through the phone, haven't tried it so i dont know if it will work that way)
I do not know if this will remove any "trace" of the phone being rooted such as modified or extra files but it might be a good start..
If you want to do a full wipe such as ODIN (w/o cables) i think you can find the stock ROM somewhere that you could flash with CWM and then reflash the 2e recovery to cover up your tracks. Again, i dont know what specific traces, if any, this may leave on your phone as "evidence".
I dont have the specific links for the stock ROM or recovery but some googling should turn something up pretty quickly.
If you have Wifi access, search to the forum for the stock 2.2 cwm flashable. I've got that floating around on my PC somewhere. I used to use that when I would Odin to stock 2.1, the install CWM, then flash stock 2.2 on top. That would get rid of root.
Edit, Heh, just saw the last paragraph in the post above. Yeah, what he said.
I wiped it via factory reset
Thanks but I didn't use ODIN because there would be no way to get KB2. I eventually unrooted and then did a factory reset. The extra files were still there but I am sending it back the way it is.
Forgive me for being a noob here,but there is a app called Z4 root get the apk file install it and select unroot....!
it will uninstall superuser !
Hi, when i try to send a text to multiple people with one text message, I'm only allowed to send to 10 people max, is there a way to get rid of this?
Cheers.
Check this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755
I believe this could be a limitation of the ROM or the service you are using. Search the developer forum for a ROM that gets past this limit and check with your phone service provider (I read somewhere that Verizon has this limit, but can't vouch for that as I am in different country)
thanks, but I am new to this whole android world, this is my first android coming from a nokia n900.
I have been reading, but it seems I need to root my phone which is now difficult because as soon as I received the phone i updated it and now have the kernel LA6 instead of original LA4 which is more difficult to root.
As for the thread you provided matius44, does the .apk file only work with ics roms or can one install it with just a rooted GB rom.
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Just so I can be sure, I do want to root, but I'm slightly confused, is it correct in saying that I need to downgrade the fw and kernel to an older stock rootable rom then root the phone? or is this wrong?
Yes- have a look at the developer forum - there are details here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
and here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Dr Ketan is the man!
salespalace said:
thanks, but I am new to this whole android world, this is my first android coming from a nokia n900.
I have been reading, but it seems I need to root my phone which is now difficult because as soon as I received the phone i updated it and now have the kernel LA6 instead of original LA4 which is more difficult to root.
As for the thread you provided matius44, does the .apk file only work with ics roms or can one install it with just a rooted GB rom.
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Just so I can be sure, I do want to root, but I'm slightly confused, is it correct in saying that I need to downgrade the fw and kernel to an older stock rootable rom then root the phone? or is this wrong?
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That used to be the case, but there is now an easier way which flashing pre rooted ROMs directly and you're good to go, here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535025
As for the .apk mod, I never tried myself honestly but there are versions for GB and for ICS, any .apk with ZCLP in it's name is for ICS you don't need that, take the other ones
I've tried dr. ketan's way and it didnt work for me, maybe i didnt know what I was doing,
Ill try these pre rooted roms, I just basically flash them to the phone, does all my data in my phone get wiped off clean? if so, what do i use to make a backup.
btw sorry for all these questions.
and thanks in advance.
It's been that long since I rooted my phone I've forgotten how to do a backup without rooting! Titanium backup needs root.
Have you tried booting into recovery mode then doing a backup from the menu that appears (vol up+home then press power until Galaxy Note boot screen appears then let go of all buttons) I'm pretty sure you can backup from there.
salespalace said:
I've tried dr. ketan's way and it didnt work for me, maybe i didnt know what I was doing,
Ill try these pre rooted roms, I just basically flash them to the phone, does all my data in my phone get wiped off clean? if so, what do i use to make a backup.
btw sorry for all these questions.
and thanks in advance.
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You can have it either ways, wiped clean or not, up to you..
At the pre rooted ROMs thread there is a screen shot showing the three file you will find in the zips and the places they should be put at in Odin, if you do NOT want to wipe your data do NOT choose the CSC file, only flash PDA and phone (modem)
Or you can use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps only, do NOT backup system apps but your settings will be lost of course
Your preference
EDIT: Sorry forgot you don't have root lol! Sorry have no idea how to backup without root, try the poster above me suggested
Congrats Matius! 1000 posts! That is great work!
no you can't backup using that method, it just give me options to reboot, wipe everything off and some other things. all i need to backup is mainly my contacts and some data, ill try kies.
Kies should work. I wish I could remember what I did to create the backup - I've done a quick google and only found using adb and a terminal prompt, which I have never used. A quick search of Google Play shows some that may be worth a try and are free.
Wish I could be more help but for the life of me can't remember what I did that first night with my Note and got it to backup.
Good luck with Kies and enjoy flashing ROMs!
even kies doesnt work. i think astro backup will backup my files, as for settings ill just have to deal with it.
OK - good luck!
BTW - If you get heat issues after flashing - don't panic! Leave the phone off for five to ten minutes to cool down then charge it for an hour with the screen off. I found this was my biggest worry when I started flashing. Got really hot - thought the screen would melt. Now I just use the above process and never have problem.
All the best!
TempusFudgeIt said:
Congrats Matius! 1000 posts! That is great work!
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Loool I just noticed this! Thanks!
salespalace said:
no you can't backup using that method, it just give me options to reboot, wipe everything off and some other things. all i need to backup is mainly my contacts and some data, ill try kies.
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Backup contacts with your Google account, most reliable way
thanks all, cant press thanks anymore, 8 thanks limit.
im now on the process rooting, but accidentally added the csc file, oh well..
I don't know if ive rooted, lol.
erm, odin says successful, but nothing seems to be removed, and i mean nothing, everything is still there, even my apps. but i do have two new apps or maybe one not sure. this superuser app, the other is a facebook camera app.
am i rooted? if so... thanks all. now to read through forum to see what the best gingerbread rom is or if ics rom is worth using now.
salespalace said:
I don't know if ive rooted, lol.
erm, odin says successful, but nothing seems to be removed, and i mean nothing, everything is still there, even my apps. but i do have two new apps or maybe one not sure. this superuser app, the other is a facebook camera app.
am i rooted? if so... thanks all. now to read through forum to see what the best gingerbread rom is or if ics rom is worth using now.
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To make sure you are rooted use a file explorer app (root explorer or ES file explorer)and try to copy a file (pic, video or anything) to /system folder
If it's saved then congrats you're rooted
Hi,
Since the kitkat update I get exchange errors all the time, and the nexus is slow as shi...
Factory Reset didn't solve the problem.
Any Help?
Version: 4.4.2
No one with this problems?
Di0g0 said:
No one with this problems?
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You could try reverting back to 4.3 then update to 4.4.2 by installing a custom rom.
Hum,
But this problems are normal on the oficial 4.4.2?
Di0g0 said:
Hum,
But this problems are normal on the oficial 4.4.2?
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Nope they are not
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By any chance your extreme lag also affects the audio performances? I and a friend of mine had in the same period (for 2 weeks) EXTREME lag, signal lost on mobile network. The lag was so powerful that even music was interrupted. The only way to get rid of this was rebooting the tablet.
The most awkward part is that the bug persisted over ANY KIND OF ROM/KERNEL. Even the official one from Google Developers (any android version).
Best part: It was fixed by itself. Lags started to be increasingly rare and at some point they stopped.
I tried to catch some logs...at the moment of failure, just once they pointed me to some lines in the source code...so I quit trying to figure it out what happens..
I had the same problem, I solved it installing SlimKat, but probably you can solve it with any custom rom, I tried many times to restore 4.4.2 but always the same, only installing custom roms seem to solve it...
I remember it, is like a nightmare to me, turn the tablet On and let it 5 minutes before open any app, open Google Play and see how it lags, installing apps always causing freezing... It remembers me my Windows XP years...
At the beginning i let it thinking it will solve itself, haha, after months I was about to broke it with a stone
Kilek_360 said:
I had the same problem, I solved it installing SlimKat, but probably you can solve it with any custom rom, I tried many times to restore 4.4.2 but always the same, only installing custom roms seem to solve it...
I remember it, is like a nightmare to me, turn the tablet On and let it 5 minutes before open any app, open Google Play and see how it lags, installing apps always causing freezing... It remembers me my Windows XP years...
At the beginning i let it thinking it will solve itself, haha, after months I was about to broke it with a stone
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Ya it's my situation now...
al3x1393 said:
Nope they are not
---------- Post added at 11:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:26 AM ----------
By any chance your extreme lag also affects the audio performances? I and a friend of mine had in the same period (for 2 weeks) EXTREME lag, signal lost on mobile network. The lag was so powerful that even music was interrupted. The only way to get rid of this was rebooting the tablet.
The most awkward part is that the bug persisted over ANY KIND OF ROM/KERNEL. Even the official one from Google Developers (any android version).
Best part: It was fixed by itself. Lags started to be increasingly rare and at some point they stopped.
I tried to catch some logs...at the moment of failure, just once they pointed me to some lines in the source code...so I quit trying to figure it out what happens..
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Ya the tablet is extremely slow, and freezes sometimes for some seconds!
What do you mean with "rebooting the tablet"? Factory Reset on the original recovery menu?
Thanks.
Di0g0 said:
Ya it's my situation now...
Ya the tablet is extremely slow, and freezes sometimes for some seconds!
What do you mean with "rebooting the tablet"? Factory Reset on the original recovery menu?
Thanks.
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If you want to keep the official rom you can just try to reflash 4.4.2 wiping everything, just copy to PC the files you want to keep and after flashing copy again to tablet, i would recommend you to copy only important data, not everything, and specially not copy the folders with strange names that you dont know what they are
Kilek_360 said:
If you want to keep the official rom you can just try to reflash 4.4.2 wiping everything, just copy to PC the files you want to keep and after flashing copy again to tablet, i would recommend you to copy only important data, not everything, and specially not copy the folders with strange names that you dont know what they are
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How to reflash the 4.4.2?
It's necessary root?
Di0g0 said:
How to reflash the 4.4.2?
It's necessary root?
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Before flashing anything try to restore the tablet, copy all your stuff to PC and format it by going to settings / backup and reset / factory data reset and checking to wipe all on internal memory/sdcard
It will wipe all your data, apps and everything, so be sure that you dont forget anything to be copied to pc.
Maybe it solve the problem without flashing
About root and flashing:
You dont need it, but you can root it if you want after flashing,
I dont know how much you know about flashing and all that, so Im gonna make you an quickly tutorial
Basically all you need is:
Nexus root toolkit from here: www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
4.4.2 firmware (can be downloaded directly from the Nexus Root Toolkit)
And be sure that you have copied to PC everything you dont want to be deleted, you can just copy all to PC and after flashing copy to tablet only what you want...
On tablet turn on USB debugging, on developer options (To unlock it go to settings /about tablet /build number and click it many times until it says "you are now a developer", then go back and you will see it)
When its done follow the Nexus Root Toolkit instructions to "flash stock + unroot" (by clicking a button with that text) you should select Android 4.4.2 (KOT49H) and check the option "automatically download"(dont remember what the option says exactly)
And the tool will download it and tell you when you have to do something. Just dont disconnect the tablet until the tool ends its job
Maybe you should install some drivers if you get an error message like "device not found"
If you want to know more about insalling drivers, you get any problem or something else just tell me, but maybe im gonna make you wait because tomorrow is my birthday and I wont be checking it for few hours.
Kilek_360 said:
Before flashing anything try to restore the tablet, copy all your stuff to PC and format it by going to settings / backup and reset / factory data reset and checking to wipe all on internal memory/sdcard
It will wipe all your data, apps and everything, so be sure that you dont forget anything to be copied to pc.
Maybe it solve the problem without flashing
About root and flashing:
You dont need it, but you can root it if you want after flashing,
I dont know how much you know about flashing and all that, so Im gonna make you an quickly tutorial
Basically all you need is:
Nexus root toolkit from here: www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
4.4.2 firmware (can be downloaded directly from the Nexus Root Toolkit)
And be sure that you have copied to PC everything you dont want to be deleted, you can just copy all to PC and after flashing copy to tablet only what you want...
On tablet turn on USB debugging, on developer options (To unlock it go to settings /about tablet /build number and click it many times until it says "you are now a developer", then go back and you will see it)
When its done follow the Nexus Root Toolkit instructions to "flash stock + unroot" (by clicking a button with that text) you should select Android 4.4.2 (KOT49H) and check the option "automatically download"(dont remember what the option says exactly)
And the tool will download it and tell you when you have to do something. Just dont disconnect the tablet until the tool ends its job
Maybe you should install some drivers if you get an error message like "device not found"
If you want to know more about insalling drivers, you get any problem or something else just tell me, but maybe im gonna make you wait because tomorrow is my birthday and I wont be checking it for few hours.
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I tried to restore the tablet and that didn't worked (look at the first post).
I will try the 2º option, thank you !!
Di0g0 said:
Ya the tablet is extremely slow, and freezes sometimes for some seconds!
What do you mean with "rebooting the tablet"? Factory Reset on the original recovery menu?
Thanks.
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No...just a simple restart. As I stated, I tried different resets and flashes and everything and nothing worked...
Di0g0 said:
I tried to restore the tablet and that didn't worked (look at the first post).
I will try the 2º option, thank you !!
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Be careful about "Returning to stock" method as I think Google broke their "flash-all.bat" from the arcvive of Android 4.4. Flash every file by your hand. I used that idiotic flash-all on any android version, but on 4.4 it completely broke my motherboard by flashing wrong boot.img.
[QUOTW=Di0g0]I tried to restore the tablet and that didn't worked (look at the first post).
I will try the 2º option, thank you !![/QUOTE]
Okay, I was no sure that you also format "SD card" factory reset do not delete user data/sd card on some devices and Im not sure if in N7 you have to check the option
Try the 2° option but take a look at this comment:
al3x1393 said:
No...just a simple restart. As I stated, I tried different resets and flashes and everything and nothing worked...
Be careful about "Returning to stock" method as I think Google broke their "flash-all.bat" from the arcvive of Android 4.4. Flash every file by your hand. I used that idiotic flash-all on any android version, but on 4.4 it completely broke my motherboard by flashing wrong boot.img.
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If thats true then try to flash 4.3 and install 4.4.2 by OTA, just select 4.3 instead 4.4.2 when you are about to flashing
Ok,
I flashed the nexus 7 2012 directly to the factory 4.4.2 using the nexus root toolkit, and everything is working fine without problems, at least for now.
The tablet isn't giving exchange errors, and doesn't hang everytime, but I only used it for some minutes, lets see how it works after some days/intensive usage.
Anyway, as I said, I flashed to 4.4.2 directly using the toolkit, and it worked without any problem
Thank You!
Coming from an iPhone I'm used to connecting the phone to iTunes via USB, downloading a fresh version of the OS and restoring the phone. Then I have the option of setting up as new or restoring a backup.
I would like to know if there's a way to do something like that with my Note 8. I realize I can reset everything from within the settings app but I would like to wipe it clean and install a fresh copy of Nougat 7.1.1.
Is this possible? Also just in case it comes up I'm not interested in rooting at this point in time.
Thanks!!
rocknblogger said:
Coming from an iPhone I'm used to connecting the phone to iTunes via USB, downloading a fresh version of the OS and restoring the phone. Then I have the option of setting up as new or restoring a backup.
I would like to know if there's a way to do something like that with my Note 8. I realize I can reset everything from within the settings app but I would like to wipe it clean and install a fresh copy of Nougat 7.1.1.
Is this possible? Also just in case it comes up I'm not interested in rooting at this point in time.
Thanks!!
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Pretty sure there is a ton of posts on here discussing Odin and what it is used for, as well if you look under guides I have posted the stock firmware and links to odin.
Go here for that stuff: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sp...stock-restore-odin-recovery-software-t3668888
Basics : Odin is like ITunes , you select the firmware to install to the device and push it to phone, it wipes phone and installs the software selected.
There are only a few limitations of ODIN, that being that if the firmware is set to Anti-Rollback you can not go back to any version older then the 1st revision of that rollback version.
Example : N950USQU1AQI5 This is the latest version for sprint currently there are 3 parts of this explained below.
The QI5 is the version identifier.
N950U is the variant the software is designed to be used with.
The number 5 spots from the end determines the bootloader revison and will be the Anti-rollback version. All versions matching that number can be flashed without bias, so any version labeled ( 1 ) can be flashed to the note.
Now hypothetically if this was the software that comes next: N950USQU2AQL9
Once you were to install this version you could NEVER flash anything lower then ( 2 ) to the device, the bootloader on the phone will refuse it and tell you the version is older and will not install.
Thank you for the detailed reply. Your right in that I've seen a lot about Odin. What I'm somewhat concerned about is that whatever I've managed to find and read about doing this is that it will void the warranty? Is this accurate or am I misunderstood something?
Also, the reason I wanted to do this is because something screwed things up after I moved apps to the SD card. And yes I moved them using the built-in settings app. So obviously I was only able to move apps that the OS allowed me to. Basically even though it showed that the apps were on the external storage they just disappeared. If I tried to reinstall Google Play would immediately crash.
So my thought was that if I did a clean install it would wipe out any crud that might be left behind by doing a hard reset built into the phone. Am I completely wrong about this or is it possible some stuff might be left behind?
Thanks again for taking the time to post your reply.
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Thank you for the detailed reply. Your right in that I've seen a lot about Odin. What I'm somewhat concerned about is that whatever I've managed to find and read about doing this is that it will void the warranty? Is this accurate or am I misunderstood something?
Also, the reason I wanted to do this is because something screwed things up after I moved apps to the SD card. And yes I moved them using the built-in settings app. So obviously I was only able to move apps that the OS allowed me to. Basically even though it showed that the apps were on the external storage they just disappeared. If I tried to reinstall Google Play would immediately crash.
So my thought was that if I did a clean install it would wipe out any crud that might be left behind by doing a hard reset built into the phone. Am I completely wrong about this or is it possible some stuff might be left behind?
Thanks again for taking the time to post your reply.
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Odin does NOT effect the warranty bit, even with the new root method the Knox warranty status does not get effected.
I actually had mine rooted, some pixels in my screen were messed up ( not related to root ) used ODIN to go back to stock and sent it in to Samsung for a warranty repair and it was approved, fixed and sent back for free so no fret.
The warranty status shows up when you put your phone into Download mode ( Holding Bixby + Volume Down and power button together during a boot up ) It shows warranty bit 00x00
If it were to effect it the status would go to 00X01 and so on as you continue to modify things. The status only changes if the phone is compromised with custom boot files witch we do not have access to due to having the bootloader locked.
This is a routine process to recover the phone if it wouldn't boot,
furthermore you can essentially do the same procedure using Samsung smart switch on desktop, but i'm not fluent with using it as ODIN is a better method and more robust and less dumb ware.
as for moving apps to sd, you could also try deleting them off the sd, or possible that the sd card is messing up and not fast enough for the device to read and run those apps so if you redo and it happens again id avoid putting them on sd if you can.
hope this helps. No fret on using odin, just take your time and pay attention to the options you use. Do not confuse NAND ERASE ALL ( that is the same has a hard reset) with ERASE EFS ( this deletes the serial number and should never be done! )
Again, thank you so much for the detailed reply. Just one more thing. Can you please supply me a link to the correct stock ROM. I apologise for all the noob questions but it's been more than 7 years since I've messed with Android. Some of the links I found took me to download did where I had to pay or else the fire was too big for free.
I believe this is the exact one I need for my Sprint Note 8
N950USQU1AQI5. This is what I have on my phone now.
As for the SD card issue there were just a few apps I found. The others just seemed to disappear. In any case I bought a new 256GB U3 card by Samsung so there should be no questions now on whether it's too slow or bad. I moved a couple apps and so far so good.
Thanks again and best regards!!
rocknblogger said:
Again, thank you so much for the detailed reply. Just one more thing. Can you please supply me a link to the correct stock ROM. I apologise for all the noob questions but it's been more than 7 years since I've messed with Android. Some of the links I found took me to download did where I had to pay or else the fire was too big for free.
I believe this is the exact one I need for my Sprint Note 8
N950USQU1AQI5. This is what I have on my phone now.
As for the SD card issue there were just a few apps I found. The others just seemed to disappear. In any case I bought a new 256GB U3 card by Samsung so there should be no questions now on whether it's too slow or bad. I moved a couple apps and so far so good.
Thanks again and best regards!!
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The 1st link I sent you at top is the link to find most current firmware for the Sprint note 8. QI5 is the latest as of today. The one you posted is the correct one. The post also has Odin available to dl as well.
But here is the direct link to QI5: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291677290
Pretty much with Odin
Take the firmware zip and unzip it.
Then put phone into dl mode as explained above holding power, volm down and bixby. Once on green screen click up to start dl mode and it's ready.
Side note:
That key combo is also soft reset. Holding vol up instead would bring you to recovery where you can do a full hard reset as well. If you accidentaly get into dl mode trying to soft reset because phone got frozen just soft reset out of it and you'll be back to booting up as normal.
Plug phone in and open Odin.
Odin should show the phone and it's com port once driver on pc have installed.
Click each box ( bl, ap, cp, csc) and select the matching files.
The csc you'll use is the one with OYN in it's name.
Under options have f.reset time.. auto reboot and nand erase all checked. Nothing else. Again I say nand erase all.. remember what I said about the efs one and never checking it....
Once each loads up.. ( ap will take forever it will act like it has gotten stuck and may show it's not responding ) this is normal just wait it out as it's a huge package being loaded...
Click start and drink a coffee..
Once done, it will auto reboot, wipe and then boot up
Re setup and test. Just be aware all data on device will be gone.
Otherwise you will be good to go!
I added to generic photos of what it looks like when phone is connected and com port is showing up. As well what options are to be selected. I put a big pointing finger to the correct erase all option as well lol
Thank you for all the detailed replies!!! You rock dude. Things are slowly coming back to me. The EVO 4G was the last Android phone I had before jumping to iPhone. I used to install different ROMs almost weekly and tried all sorts of stuff back then. Had no fear
I guess after being away for so long it just takes time and reading through all the different threads.
Thanks again!!!
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Plug phone in and open Odin.
Odin should show the phone and it's com port once driver on pc have installed.
Click each box ( bl, ap, cp, csc) and select the matching files.
The csc you'll use is the one with OYN in it's name.
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Okay so I was all set to do this but when I unzipped the firmware.zip and there are more files in there that I'm not sure what to do with.
First there are 2 CSC files and both have OYN in the name.
First one is : CSC_OYN_N950UOYN1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Second is: HOME_CSC_OYN_N950UOYN1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
There's also a file called USERDATA_SPR_N950USQU1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Is there anything I need to do with this particular file?
Also all the files are xxx.tar.MD5. Am I right in guessing that Odin with verify the MD5 checksum?
Thanks again!!!
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Okay so I was all set to do this but when I unzipped the firmware.zip and there are more files in there that I'm not sure what to do with.
First there are 2 CSC files and both have OYN in the name.
First one is : CSC_OYN_N950UOYN1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Second is: HOME_CSC_OYN_N950UOYN1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
There's also a file called USERDATA_SPR_N950USQU1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Is there anything I need to do with this particular file?
Also all the files are xxx.tar.MD5. Am I right in guessing that Odin with verify the MD5 checksum?
Thanks again!!!
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use the CSY OYN, i touched this in a earlier response, and dont worry about the user data one and yes they are verified by md5 before a push occurs, this can be turned off in odin if you wanted and skip md5 verification.
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use the CSY OYN, i touched this in a earlier response, and dont worry about the user data one and yes they are verified by md5 before a push occurs, this can be turned off in odin if you wanted and skip md5 verification.
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Once again...thank you!!!
If you don't mind I have a question about restoring from backup. If I backup to Samsung cloud then it will restore the apps that I currently have installed, is that correct?
If I backup to Google and then restore from Google backup it will only restore data and if I install an app that I had prior to the wipe/restore it will then restore the data for that particular app. Is that correct?
Also is it possible to choose which apps to restore if I restore from Samsung backup?
Thanks again!!