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I've been using OnePlus 3T for almost 3 years now and planning to switch to either Redmi K20 Pro or Realme X2 Pro. The stakes are matched one-to-one pretty much, as far as my requirements are concerned, except for one thing.
XDA activity/ custom ROMs, which I love with OnePlus 3T. Though not an extreme flashaholic, and because I'm ditching OnePlus for its pricing strategy, near-stock OS or the choice of custom OS is my only deal-breaker against X2 Pro.
I do understand that X2 Pro is quite new while the K20 Pro has been in around for a decent while and picked up a more-than-decent choice of custom ROMs (Havoc/Pixel Experience/LOS), I would like to understand how well X2 Pro is being received/adopted by the developer community. If the adoption is decent, I am ready wait a little longer for it and get X2 Pro!
I'm eargerly waiting custom roms too.
I might even consider to make a thread to raise money to send a device to some devs I contacted that might be willing to work on the realme X2 pro.
But for the moment I'm waiting realme to fix the fingerprint issue when unlocking bootloader otherwise no custom roms will be feasible.
I tried GSIs from AOSP, LineageOS and PixelExperience, all of them get me into boot loops. I'm also really hoping for a custom rom to come out soon, ColorOS is very disappointing.
zxasqw1234 said:
I tried GSIs from AOSP, LineageOS and PixelExperience, all of them get me into boot loops. I'm also really hoping for a custom rom to come out soon, ColorOS is very disappointing.
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With ColorOS7 Realme will makes a more Android-factory feeling
nazagan said:
I'm eargerly waiting custom roms too.
I might even consider to make a thread to raise money to send a device to some devs I contacted that might be willing to work on the realme X2 pro.
But for the moment I'm waiting realme to fix the fingerprint issue when unlocking bootloader otherwise no custom roms will be feasible.
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I am in ?????
nathan30 said:
With ColorOS7 Realme will makes a more Android-factory feeling
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I hope so, though I have the CN version which would probably disappoint again.
Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you
ammarwajihi said:
Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you
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I have had the phone for a few weeks and it is fantastic. 90hz is great and the fast charging is a life saver. The OS is pretty decent and I'm done with all the bugs of custom ROMs. Could be better but totally good enough.
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ammarwajihi said:
Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you
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Sadly the main reason is that released sources are messy and not easily usable for custom rom building.
Luckily all phones released with Android 8+ have a separate vendor partition compatible with treble, a new way of updating the smartphone imposed by Google. This means you would be able to install any rom you want that was build as a generic GSI image.
I got this phone instead of a Xiaomi because the hardware is just so good, and I don't regret my choice. Also the software is not as bad as people say, of course it's not barebone Android but realme os should make it even better.
danypava said:
Sadly the main reason is that released sources are messy and not easily usable for custom rom building.
Luckily all phones released with Android 8+ have a separate vendor partition compatible with treble, a new way of updating the smartphone imposed by Google. This means you would be able to install any rom you want that was build as a generic GSI image.
I got this phone instead of a Xiaomi because the hardware is just so good, and I don't regret my choice. Also the software is not as bad as people say, of course it's not barebone Android but realme os should make it even better.
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I've sold my xiaomi mi note 10 and bouht x2 pro 12/256.
Didn't regret it for 1 second.
Thanks guys. I am confused between this one and Redmi K20 Pro, clearly this has good hardware and few other perks but K20 Pro has great development support.
ammarwajihi said:
Thanks guys. I am confused between this one and Redmi K20 Pro, clearly this has good hardware and few other perks but K20 Pro has great development support.
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I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup
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I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup
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Yes, that's true
I was looking at the k20 pro,mi note 10 and this and went for the X2 pro simply because of the value for money,
90 hz
12gb ram
256gb ufs 3.0
50 watt charging,
People say downside is colorOs and yes it is not as good as other OS like Oxygen Is which I came from.
But it is not terrible at all and perfectly good in most areas,
RealmeUI is coming though and it looks impressive giving all things you would want in a feature rich OS from AOD to edge lighting,Im really excited for it.
If ROM support is really that important to you then I guess go with a 7T but for those who are not too pushed the X2 is perfect
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I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup
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The world's most famous phone durability reviewer JerryRigEverything couldn't broke K20 Pro but your friends broke it in no time??? If you don't believe me find and watch video: Redmi K20 Pro Durability Test by JerryRigEverything.
So why are you lying and writing bad about other phones to make X2 Pro look better, that's not fair and honest?
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The world's most famous phone durability reviewer JerryRigEverything couldn't broke K20 Pro but your friends broke it in no time??? If you don't believe me find and watch video: Redmi K20 Pro Durability Test by JerryRigEverything.
So why are you lying and writing bad about other phones to make X2 Pro look better, that's not fair and honest?
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Woah woah dude, calm down. I follow Zack and see all of his reviews, I'm a phone fanatic and check out any news in the phone department.
Before this phone I had 2 different Xiaomi phones, I was valuating another one before getting this. I'm not attached to any brand or anything.
I'm just telling what happened to a couple of my friends, if you don't believe me I'll get photos of their phones but I don't see the point. I couldn't care less of what other people buy, the op just asked a question and I shared my experience.
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I was looking at the k20 pro,mi note 10 and this and went for the X2 pro simply because of the value for money,
90 hz
12gb ram
256gb ufs 3.0
50 watt charging,
People say downside is colorOs and yes it is not as good as other OS like Oxygen Is which I came from.
But it is not terrible at all and perfectly good in most areas,
RealmeUI is coming though and it looks impressive giving all things you would want in a feature rich OS from AOD to edge lighting,Im really excited for it.
If ROM support is really that important to you then I guess go with a 7T but for those who are not too pushed the X2 is perfect
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Yeah, it is value for money for sure. These companies are not like Apple that they will give software updates for 3-4 years, they suddenly drop support that's what I am afraid of.
That's why ROM development is very important for me I always want to use the latest Android. 7T is out of budget so I may opt for K20 Pro.
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Yeah, it is value for money for sure. These companies are not like Apple that they will give software updates for 3-4 years, they suddenly drop support that's what I am afraid of.
That's why ROM development is very important for me I always want to use the latest Android. 7T is out of budget so I may opt for K20 Pro.
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I think people will refrain from unlocking and flashing because it breaks the FOD.
That is what made me go for the k20 because if you are a flashaholic like me, custom development is what matters the most.
I have suffered with my first phone with no development, the Coolpad Note 3. When new it seems nice but as time passes by with no updates. It gets very hard to deal with repeated factory resets, which is the only way left.
So all the rest of my phones that I bought had some of the best development teams...even till date.
Zuk z2
Poco f1
K20 pro/mi9t pro
So if you want to taste custom roms, you have to go the k20 way, but beware the FOD (Fingerprint Scanner) on custom roms on the K20 Pro aren't flawless byt still work with workarounds, including widewine L1 support.
Support is really poor and updates come later.
I like my X2 Pro but it is clear it is not a top range also because of this.
Honestly i think about spend my money for my next phone in Realme phones (except minor phones, maybe mostly supported).
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Support is really poor and updates come later.
I like my X2 Pro but it is clear it is not a top range also because of this.
Honestly i think about spend my money for my next phone in Realme phones (except minor phones, maybe mostly supported).
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This is not true,I bought the phone at Christmas and have had one update a month with latest security patch.
It has been known now for some time that Android 10 and realmeUI was coming in March so I don't know why people are complaining,
Software support has been on point and no promises were broken
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This is not true,I bought the phone at Christmas and have had one update a month with latest security patch.
It has been known now for some time that Android 10 and realmeUI was coming in March so I don't know why people are complaining,
Software support has been on point and no promises were broken
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I am referring to relevant updates, if you are happy because of having one update at month without real improvements, you are welcome.
We know about the "promise" of Realme about March update, but the reality is that Realme is slower than other brand, mostly with its top phone.
I don't understand, instead, why people accept everything and prefer to say that his phone is fantastic rather than underline failings, just because has got this phone.
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...and the point of first message is about development, i draw a veil over that argument, so we all expect at least to have real, good updates from manufacturer...
So if someone ask about it is right to say the truth.
February update now live in the UK site.
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February update now live in the UK site.
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In Indian site too. Changelog is irrelevant
Change log is pretty much irrelevant on most phones... I've noticed lots of stuff not mentioned on the change logs on various devices.
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Change log is pretty much irrelevant on most phones... I've noticed lots of stuff not mentioned on the change logs on various devices.
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For example?
Have you updated?
Please show us improvements, i am curious
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I am referring to relevant updates, if you are happy because of having one update at month without real improvements, you are welcome.
We know about the "promise" of Realme about March update, but the reality is that Realme is slower than other brand, mostly with its top phone.
I don't understand, instead, why people accept everything and prefer to say that his phone is fantastic rather than underline failings, just because has got this phone.
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...and the point of first message is about development, i draw a veil over that argument, so we all expect at least to have real, good updates from manufacturer...
So if someone ask about it is right to say the truth.
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Do you even have this phone ?
The quality of the updates have been decent. No real bugs with the software for most people,though have seen some people complain about minor things that they experience but I think most of us knew colorOs wasn't going to be perfect,
Another update just released today,this is better than most manufacturers,OnePlus for example only give Bi monthly and their releaselog is pretty pathetic at times mentioning improvements to weather app and unknown bug fixes.
Realme is definitely not slower than other brands,it's one of the quickest in actual fact and I for one don't feel at all like I'm accepting everything just because I own the phone,
I'm happy and looking forward to RealmeUI
Hi all, what do you think is 7 Pro 5G worst model due to NO support from custom roms? I can not find even one custom work to support this phone, and to be honest I would like to replace it asap for anything with AOSP support ;/
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Hi all, what do you think is 7 Pro 5G worst model due to NO support from custom roms? I can not find even one custom work to support this phone, and to be honest I would like to replace it asap for anything with AOSP support ;/
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Why not debloat?
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Why not debloat?
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Got it debloated but how can you compare it to custom Rom and kernel?
Why would you state a phone is the worst model ever strictly based on a lack of custom ROMs? The availability of ROMs has nothing to do with the capability the phone model has. If you want custom ROMs, you could always do the work to make them. If you don't have the knowledge, there are plenty of devs that have provided help to many on this forum, and I'm sure that you could get help if you're willing to spend the time and put in the effort.
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Why would you state a phone is the worst model ever strictly based on a lack of custom ROMs? The availability of ROMs has nothing to do with the capability the phone model has. If you want custom ROMs, you could always do the work to make them. If you don't have the knowledge, there are plenty of devs that have provided help to many on this forum, and I'm sure that you could get help if you're willing to spend the time and put in the effort.
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As oneplus phones are great for custom firmware and I always buy them because of it. In this case 5G model is just a piece of rubbish as there is literally NO support from devs. You say do it on my own? Yeah I would like to have few hours of spare time every day to play with it, but as I do not have that time I have to sell the phone and buy something "normal".
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As oneplus phones are great for custom firmware and I always buy them because of it. In this case 5G model is just a piece of rubbish as there is literally NO support from devs. You say do it on my own? Yeah I would like to have few hours of spare time every day to play with it, but as I do not have that time I have to sell the phone and buy something "normal".
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I understand your concern but if you look in the correct place TG you will find it. ??
What do you mean not compatible? Because bootloader locked? Or is the hardware different? I managed to unlock bootloader, but have not yet tried to flash a ROM. Are you saying a regular ROM will not work for the OP7 Pro just because it's the 5G version? (I don't need 5G anyway if that's the only problem with 5G OP7).
I wonder, if anyone already rooted their SWEET?
Found this article https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-redmi-note-10-pro/
Or does anyone found another soloution?
Not yet, received mine today
Btw will warranty be void if rooted? Never had a Xiaomi phone
It does matter, in which country you're living. In the EU you don't will lose warranty even if you root your phone.
I haven't, because i still need a few more days to feel how the oficial rom performences. But in a couple of days, i'm going to try a lot of "testings" .Even so, i'm still trying to understand a litle more about whats the compatibility between 10 and 10Pro roms/firmware.
I am quite confident with the original rom. But I am also looking forward to custom roms. But the camera has to work. I had the S21 Ultra before, pls don't laugh, but the camera of the note 10 pro isn't that worse.
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I am quite confident with the original rom. But I am also looking forward to custom roms. But the camera has to work. I had the S21 Ultra before, pls don't laugh, but the camera of the note 10 pro isn't that worse.
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My friend has one and is also very happy with the stock ROM.
So, long story short, my old OnePlus 6 fell from my pocket and broke, in one unlucky accident. I've decided to "upgrade myself" and go for a more recent model. I'm used to flash custom ROMs and try many of them until I find one that suits my needs and that's pretty stable.
I wanted to buy the OnePlus 10 Pro but it's my understanding that you can "just" root it? I haven't followed the Oppo drama lately so I don't know if it comes from the fact that the phone has been released "recently" or they locked things similarly to Huawei.
Stuccio said:
So, long story short, my old OnePlus 6 fell from my pocket and broke, in one unlucky accident. I've decided to "upgrade myself" and go for a more recent model. I'm used to flash custom ROMs and try many of them until I find one that suits my needs and that's pretty stable.
I wanted to buy the OnePlus 10 Pro but it's my understanding that you can "just" root it? I haven't followed the Oppo drama lately so I don't know if it comes from the fact that the phone has been released "recently" or they locked things similarly to Huawei.
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If looking to still do Roms go for a 9 pro
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If looking to still do Roms go for a 9 pro
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Is it because of some sort of lock or what? Because I would still buy it if I know that there'll be the chance to go custom in the future.
Thanks for the info btw.
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Is it because of some sort of lock or what? Because I would still buy it if I know that there'll be the chance to go custom in the future.
Thanks for the info btw.
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There's no lock it has to do with the msm recovery tool. Since oneplus now charges for it to be used developer's don't want to touch newer phones.
Stuccio said:
So, long story short, my old OnePlus 6 fell from my pocket and broke, in one unlucky accident. I've decided to "upgrade myself" and go for a more recent model. I'm used to flash custom ROMs and try many of them until I find one that suits my needs and that's pretty stable.
I wanted to buy the OnePlus 10 Pro but it's my understanding that you can "just" root it? I haven't followed the Oppo drama lately so I don't know if it comes from the fact that the phone has been released "recently" or they locked things similarly to Huawei.
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Really, don't. Pixel 7 Pro or wait for another, it's a trying time for Android..seemingly dying compared to what it used to be like.
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There's no lock it has to do with the msm recovery tool. Since oneplus now charges for it to be used developer's don't want to touch newer phones.
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That's... sad.
Well, 9 pro will be, then, unless there are better options available.
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Really, don't. Pixel 7 Pro or wait for another, it's a trying time for Android..seemingly dying compared to what it used to be like.
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I wasn't sure whether the Pixel series was comparable to OP in terms of power and customization.
Well, thanks to everybody for their answers!
OPPO 10 Pro is a **** phone.
Buy a pixel
I ditched my 10 Pro awhile ago, and I'm happily back to my 9 Pro!
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I ditched my 10 Pro awhile ago, and I'm happily back to my 9 Pro!
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Don't blame you buddy, I wish I'd kept my 8 pro..it was mint and running Evo X..
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Don't blame you buddy, I wish I'd kept my 8 pro..it was mint and running Evo X..
Gutted
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Feel your pain missing a great performing 8 Pro device! Cheers
I like the wallpapers of 10 pro
Stuccio said:
So, long story short, my old OnePlus 6 fell from my pocket and broke, in one unlucky accident. I've decided to "upgrade myself" and go for a more recent model. I'm used to flash custom ROMs and try many of them until I find one that suits my needs and that's pretty stable.
I wanted to buy the OnePlus 10 Pro but it's my understanding that you can "just" root it? I haven't followed the Oppo drama lately so I don't know if it comes from the fact that the phone has been released "recently" or they locked things similarly to Huawei.
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Personally the 10 Pro has been really great for me, but I don't ROM hop anymore. I'm satisfied with the feature set of OOS plus basic root stuff. What are the main features in custom ROMs that get you to not use OOS?
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I ditched my 10 Pro awhile ago, and I'm happily back to my 9 Pro!
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Serious question, why do you think the 9 Pro is better ( besides MSM)?
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Personally the 10 Pro has been really great for me, but I don't ROM hop anymore. I'm satisfied with the feature set of OOS plus basic root stuff. What are the main features in custom ROMs that get you to not use OOS?
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I don't know about about OOS13 but I remember LineageOS performing way better than OOS11 in battery and loading times.
Gotcha. Last time I ran LOS was way back in the Android 4-6 period. I have only ever run OOS since the 3T did everything I wanted. I've managed to squeeze out 9 hours SOT on my 10 Pro (mind you, I wasn't gaming or anything like that,just basic web browsing, YouTube and messaging), and everything is very quick for my tastes. YMMV of course
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Serious question, why do you think the 9 Pro is better ( besides MSM)?
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Lot's more XDA Development!