Question 5G always on battery usage? - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

Hi everyone, was wondering if anyone know how much more Battery usage does having 5G toggle turned on uses compared to having 4g/3g only.
The reason im asking is that VoLTE doesn't seem to turn on when I don't have 5G turned on. I dont turn on 5G because there's no 5G in my city.
Please help

mpore14 said:
Hi everyone, was wondering if anyone know how much more Battery usage does having 5G toggle turned on uses compared to having 4g/3g only.
The reason im asking is that VoLTE doesn't seem to turn on when I don't have 5G turned on. I dont turn on 5G because there's no 5G in my city.
Please help
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Lots more for me using it on TMobile USA.

Yes, 5G does drain a lot more battery. VoLTE would work even if the device is on 4G/3G option but honestly there isn't much of a call quality difference with or without VoLTE. What really makes the difference in the call quality is wifi calling...turn that on and you will notice a marked difference in the sound quality at both ends of the call.
5G is not practical unless there's great coverage. I live in a very well covered 5G area but unless you are constantly browsing/ on youtube, the phone doesn't bother using the 5G band. So, let's say the phone's screen is switched off..you will still get your messages but on 4g band. I think it's something to do with the kernel that puts the phone on 4g when the screen's off...probably to save battery. The moment you switch on the screen, you'll see the network change to 5G...
I don't use the 5G unless I really need to say like downloading a huge update when the wifi is clogged...
TLR: There's no point in activating 5G unless there's a real need for speed and that you're in a good 5G coverage area.

Unfortunately, mobile data does not work automatically if the 5g toggle is off. I have to manually put the phone on airplane mode or restart it for it to work. Such a big hassle.

mpore14 said:
Hi everyone, was wondering if anyone know how much more Battery usage does having 5G toggle turned on uses compared to having 4g/3g only.
The reason im asking is that VoLTE doesn't seem to turn on when I don't have 5G turned on. I dont turn on 5G because there's no 5G in my city.
Please help
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I have 5G off and VoLTE is on, it should only need 4G/3G
mpore14 said:
Unfortunately, mobile data does not work automatically if the 5g toggle is off. I have to manually put the phone on airplane mode or restart it for it to work. Such a big hassle.
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Someone did report that issue with the last firmware update and apparently, the latest update has fixed it. You could try a Bixby routine to turn mobile data on when wifi is off as a temp solution

lywyn said:
I have 5G off and VoLTE is on, it should only need 4G/3G
Someone did report that issue with the last firmware update and apparently, the latest update has fixed it. You could try a Bixby routine to turn mobile data on when wifi is off as a temp solution
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I know exactly what you mean. You'd expect that it would connect to VoLTE but it doesn't. The only time it would connect is when I got the 5G toggle on.
I have tried it with multiple sim cards/networks and it only does it with my current provider - Vodafone. It is bizarre, i know but i can prove it with screenshots

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Wifi calling error

Am curious who all have tried to use wifi calling and have received this message?
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This has been discussed a little bit in the no LTE in the US with T-Mobile thread but I figured I would make its own thread for this issue and get everyone to speak up.. I have already tried to fix it with T-Mobile and that did not work.. I have already got crystal z attention and she has pmed me on the matter asking for a report and picture.. I feel a lil dumb on the matter and sent her a report(I hope I did it correctly) along with the screenshot (dated and the time it happened to go with the report).. anyone else pls reply if u have encountered the issue.. crystal is watching the forums and the more info she sees the more we can help her... Thank you...
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My wifi calling works perfectly and I'm using simple mobile prepaid (They run off T-Mobile). Since I activated wifi calling it's worked everytime with no error message. I tested it with airplane mode on just to be sure for you.
djr4x4 said:
Am curious who all have tried to use wifi calling and have received this message?
This has been discussed a little bit in the no LTE in the US with T-Mobile thread but I figured I would make its own thread for this issue and get everyone to speak up.. I have already tried to fix it with T-Mobile and that did not work.. I have already got crystal z attention and she has pmed me on the matter asking for a report and picture.. I feel a lil dumb on the matter and sent her a report(I hope I did it correctly) along with the screenshot (dated and the time it happened to go with the report).. anyone else pls reply if u have encountered the issue.. crystal is watching the forums and the more info she sees the more we can help her... Thank you...
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I'm using ATT (have an older nano SIM from a Samsung Alpha so it's all setup right), and enabled WIFI calling in the SIM1 settings. I've tried calling when on WIFI and it seems fine. I'm not exactly sure what to expect from it. Would a good test be to be in a place that has no cellular service, but has a WIFI router , and then try to make a regular call? Is that the bottom line?
Thanks.
I have signal basically in one spot in my house.. anywhere else and my signal is dead... Turn on wifi calling. The vowifi display that replaces volte will flash on/off over a time period and then will pop up with the above message and will turn off wifi calling in the settings..
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T-Mobile overlooked 1 small detail to my wifi calling issue and crystal z asked me to look into it.. T-Mobile dropped my e911 address when I swapped phones.. I put the address back in and wifi calling works again...
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hachamacha said:
I'm using ATT (have an older nano SIM from a Samsung Alpha so it's all setup right), and enabled WIFI calling in the SIM1 settings. I've tried calling when on WIFI and it seems fine. I'm not exactly sure what to expect from it. Would a good test be to be in a place that has no cellular service, but has a WIFI router , and then try to make a regular call? Is that the bottom line?
Thanks.
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You have WiFi calling working on AT&T? I don't even see the option for WiFi Calling or VoLTE on my OP3T. The Enhance Settings are non-existent. When I search for WiFi in settings, I see WiFi Calling, and can turn it on, but it never stays on. When I go back into the setting it is off again. Anyone else on ATT get either of these options to work?
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VoWiFi (Voice over Wifi)

Does the Realme X2 Pro have VoWiFi (Voice over Wifi, so you can place and receive calls via Wifi). I send the same question to the Realme support department and got a negative answer.
but I stumbled on a post with the update notes on the Realme XT, which also uses Color OS that states "resolves a network connectivity problem that prevented the registration of a VoWiFi to a carrier".
So does this phone have VoWiFi, or is it just limited to the Realme XT?
I'd like to know this too, as my house is like living inside a faraday cage... My wife's A70 has wifi calling so hoping this phone does too...?
I don't find anything relating to VoLTE or VoWifi in the setting. Sorry.
I enabled airplane mode then enabled WiFi and can make calls no problems.... I also see the little WiFi call icon in the status bar.
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I'm using the European X2 Pro.
Hi,
Just installed the A7 update and now I Can see the VOLTE logo next to 4G+.
That's good to know.. Thanks guys..
Thanks everybody for the feedback.
ngagephone said:
I enabled airplane mode then enabled WiFi and can make calls no problems.... I also see the little WiFi call icon in the status bar.
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I'm using the European X2 Pro.
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I just updated to the latest but no VoWiFi. can you advise how you got this to work?
I've literally done nothing as I can't find any settings regarding WiFi calling... I live in a small village with poor 3 SIM reception so when my reception goes low my phone automatically displays the WiFi call icon in the status bar... Best way to test it actually works is switch to airplane mode and enable WiFi then make a call it should work... I think this is also dependent on your network provider.
Doesn't work for me. Will call Vodafone and see why that is. Thanks mate.
I'm pretty sure which country and network you're on has something to do with WiFi calling being enabled.
I'm on both BT Mobile and 3 and they both support WiFi calling in the UK on monthly contracts. 3,however, also has wifi calling on my pay as you go sim/contract. Bt Mobile doesn't support that.
WiFi calling works on my other phones that support it...
ngagephone said:
I've literally done nothing as I can't find any settings regarding WiFi calling... I live in a small village with poor 3 SIM reception so when my reception goes low my phone automatically displays the WiFi call icon in the status bar... Best way to test it actually works is switch to airplane mode and enable WiFi then make a call it should work... I think this is also dependent on your network provider.
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can u share screenshots plz ?
https://ibb.co/2hSj5Vq
Is that a different launcher than the ColorOS one? I can't get a folder into the bottom row.
Which one is it?
It's default color OS... You need to make the folder first then drag to the bottom row.
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Also I've found the WiFi call settings.
https://ibb.co/hHJ1WFR
Thanks.
It seems the wifi calling option only appears if the carrier supports this.
In Germany TMobile doesn't offer wifi calling to prepaid customers nor resellers.
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ngagephone said:
It's default color OS... You need to make the folder first then drag to the bottom row.
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Also I've found the WiFi call settings.
https://ibb.co/hHJ1WFR
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Can u really call out when u turn on vowifi?
Im cn version and I can turn on vowifi but it cant make a phone call.
Yes it works fine
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It's default color OS... You need to make the folder first then drag to the bottom row.
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Also I've found the WiFi call settings.
https://ibb.co/hHJ1WFR
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Not available here. My wifi calling is enabled by Vodafone but doesn't work here.
You have to click on Sim 1 to enter the menu where vowifi is located.

My carrier doesn't claim it supports Wifi calling with Xiaomi, Can I do something?qq

Hi,
I have Xiaomi 9t pro and I opened the Wifi calling (and LTE) with the codes and I see in the sim settings the toggles as expected.
I check with my carrier and they opened wifi calling option for me.
But still, there is no wifi calling icon (seems like LTE works because I see the LTE icon).
My carrier says it supports wifi calling out of the box for Samsung and LG devices, so I guess it doesn't work for me because I use Xiaomi device. If I put my sim in a Samsung device wifi calling is working.
Is there anything I can do to make it works with my device?
I'm from Israel and my carrier is Pelephone.
Thanks!
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noampaz said:
Hi,
I have Xiaomi 9t pro and I opened the Wifi calling (and LTE) with the codes and I see in the sim settings the toggles as expected.
I check with my carrier and they opened wifi calling option for me.
But still, there is no wifi calling icon (seems like LTE works because I see the LTE icon).
My carrier says it supports wifi calling out of the box for Samsung and LG devices, so I guess it doesn't work for me because I use Xiaomi device. If I put my sim in a Samsung device wifi calling is working.
Is there anything I can do to make it works with my device?
I'm from Israel and my carrier is Pelephone.
Thanks!
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Man i had to call Hot like 5 times till i got someone that wasnt some frecha that knew what volte was and enabled it again on my phone(after they disabled it!). Keep on calling and seeing till you find someone in tech support that understands. Wifi calling works with my girls samsung note 10+ also on hot, im not sure if they enabled it for me but im waiting for next corvus rom release to test because it will have wifi calling.

Force LTE only without root access, Huawei P30 Pro

I would like my phone to always reconnect to the network once it looses LTE bandwidth.
The thing is that the provider gives me LTE for the first few minutes, but then reduces my speed to HSDPA
So what I need is an app that goes into the airplane mode for just one second and then reactivates the connection.
I found out that rooting my phone is impossible and all the apps that I tried do not work without root.
I downloaded about three different apps all claiming to provide a "Force LTE" experience.
Any suggestions on how I can achieve the goal of auto reconnecting to the network in case my bandwidth drops lower than LTE?
It wouldnt be an issue if I would be actively sitting on the phone, but I am using it as a hotspot with the phone at the window to have best connectivity.
Greetings from Venezuela!
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Download this app and change the numbers I've circled in red to just "11" and reboot. You'll have loads more network choices.
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Thanks, I did, this is the result:
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It appears to me that the provider doesnt allow me to choose LTE only? Is that possible?
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I would like my phone to always reconnect to the network once it looses LTE bandwidth.
The thing is that the provider gives me LTE for the first few minutes, but then reduces my speed to HSDPA
So what I need is an app that goes into the airplane mode for just one second and then reactivates the connection.
I found out that rooting my phone is impossible and all the apps that I tried do not work without root.
I downloaded about three different apps all claiming to provide a "Force LTE" experience.
Any suggestions on how I can achieve the goal of auto reconnecting to the network in case my bandwidth drops lower than LTE?
It wouldnt be an issue if I would be actively sitting on the phone, but I am using it as a hotspot with the phone at the window to have best connectivity.
Greetings from Venezuela!
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The method is very easy:
1. Use SIM 1 as the default connection setting
2.
You need to install this app for FREE
at Google Play
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teknokia.force4glteonly
pro version : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teknokia.force4glteonlypro
galaxy store: https://apps.samsung.com/appquery/appDetail.as?appId=com.teknokia.force4glteonly
pro version : https://apps.samsung.com/appquery/appDetail.as?appId=com.teknokia.force4glteonlypro
3. Run the application, press the SIM 1 only or Android testing button. You will enter two LTE Switcher options and also 2 Android testing options.
4. You can try all of them which support your phone.
If the telecommunication operator you are using does not support VoLTE (Voice over LTE) and uses LTE Only Mode, so regular calls will be blocked.
for complete detail with video. you must going to teknokia site

"Automatically select network"

In my Pixel 5's Mobile Network settings, there is an option entitled "Automatically select network".
I use T-Mobile as my carrier. My question here is, is it better to leave this enabled or disabled? And also, why? (See attached)
My phone was showing that it got the "5G Standalone (SA)" update cuz under About Phone and SIM status, it showed "NR SA" (NR = New Radio) just after I saw an article saying Google just put this update out last week. That was a couple days ago. Then I saw it had gone back to non-standalone (NSA) again (Mobile Data) and LTE (Mobile Voice).
So then I went back to Network settings and disabled Automatically select network, and it went back to "NR SA" again (for both Mobile Voice & Mobile Data). (See attached)
What do you guys think? Any negatives to leaving this disabled?
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There shouldn't be any negatives to leaving it disabled.
So I spoke to Google, and I realize now that this option really doesn't make any difference enabled or disabled. So yes, I agree swangjang.
I also came to the realization that what was much more likely affecting the "NR SA" status was the new "Adaptive Connectivity" option being enabled in Call/Network settings. This settings switches the phone to 4G LTE when you're doing simple things like texting or web browsing, and for bigger things to 5G. It helps to save battery life, but I don't really like not being in 5G for as much as possible, even for web browsing. So I turned it off.
(**So now I consider this issue to be resolved.**)
Now that I did, I notice that the SIM status went back to NR SA right away, and pretty much stays in that status at least MOST of the time. So I guess this was the issue, not "Automatically select network". So I recommend anyone who wants to be sure their phone is in NR SA status more often or most of the time (esp once your carrier upgrades your local cell towers to NR SA status!) to disable Adaptive Connectivity immediately. SA will give you the better version of 5G which again does NOT piggyback on 4G LTE towers to work (aka NSA). This version I believe offers better range, service, speed, and building penetrability.
In my area (Chicago and nearby suburbs), T-Mobile has not yet upgraded my local towers to NR SA (I called them and they were able to check this for me on their end), so it's not a big deal yet. But my guess is by this summer they prob will, so I'd prefer to be ready since my Pixel now has this capability thanks to the most recent February update.
Let me know if you guys have any questions!

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