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Hey guys. Forgive me for my noobness here, I'm still kind of new to rooting etc. So I've got an Australian nexus 6, running 5.0.1, its rooted, I used the nexus root toolkit, and it installed twrp, I want to update to 5.1, downloaded the update from aosp or whatever and tried to sideload it, I kept getting errors and fails. Both twrp and adb are updated. Now I think from what I've read, after rooting a 5.0 device you can't receive OTAs anymore. I just got the OTA notification, I downloaded it and pressed install, it restarted then booted into twrp and didn't start the update process. I've tried unrooting but it failed. My questions are: can I install the OTA through twrp? Is there a way to bypass twrp to continue the update? Can I factory reset through settings on the phone to go back to stock and then do the update that way? (I've heard its bad to factory reset like that, not sure why or if its true?) Just want 5.1 already! Any help is appreciated, and if possible dumb it down a bit because some terminology still is not known to me
Thanks in advance
ice_cold17 said:
Hey guys. Forgive me for my noobness here, I'm still kind of new to rooting etc. So I've got an Australian nexus 6, running 5.0.1, its rooted, I used the nexus root toolkit, and it installed twrp, I want to update to 5.1, downloaded the update from aosp or whatever and tried to sideload it, I kept getting errors and fails. Both twrp and adb are updated. Now I think from what I've read, after rooting a 5.0 device you can't receive OTAs anymore. I just got the OTA notification, I downloaded it and pressed install, it restarted then booted into twrp and didn't start the update process. I've tried unrooting but it failed. My questions are: can I install the OTA through twrp? Is there a way to bypass twrp to continue the update? Can I factory reset through settings on the phone to go back to stock and then do the update that way? (I've heard its bad to factory reset like that, not sure why or if its true?) Just want 5.1 already! Any help is appreciated, and if possible dumb it down a bit because some terminology still is not known to me
Thanks in advance
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If you're unlocked, rooted and have TWRP, why not just install custom ROM? Otherwise you can download factory image that you want, unzip and flash images individually via fastboot. Just don't flash user data and you won't loose data.
Just use the toolkit to 100% flash back go stock. It will unroot and reinstall stock recovery. Just remember to always keep USB debugging on and keep that boot loader unlocked. Once your back to the out box state you should be v able to receive ota. Or just use toolkit to flash the new stock image for your device. Ends with I.
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I've never flashed files individually. I don't like any of the Roms, I prefer stock android but I like the perks of rooting. Could you give me a step by step on flashing the files individually please
ice_cold17 said:
I've never flashed files individually. I don't like any of the Roms, I prefer stock android but I like the perks of rooting. Could you give me a step by step on flashing the files individually please
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Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008, method 2.
Awesome thanks, so if I don't flash "user data" I can keep my stuff, will that mess it up in anyway? What about the step that says erase user data, can I skip that then?
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Awesome thanks, so if I don't flash "user data" I can keep my stuff, will that mess it up in anyway? What about the step that says erase user data, can I skip that then?
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I don`t erase and flash userdata usualy, its good to erase cache and then flash cache cache.img. A data factory reset after the procedure is adviced however for preventing fc`s and such.
So in the end is should wipe anyway? Oh well I was trying to avoid that only as a last resort. It wouldn't even let me unroot through the toolkit for some reason...
I, too, would like to know this. I have looked through many forums and sites to try to find an answer.
My Nexus 6 is:
- bootloader unlocked
- TWRP recovery
- rooted
I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts.
Is there a flashable update.zip that allows the update to 5.1? (I have seen a few, but they usually have encryption disabled - which I believe will cause me to lose my data?)
Would it be easy enough to restore stock recovery and unroot, which would allow me to flash the OTA normally - then just flash TWRP and root again?
How would I go about this?
fubofo said:
I, too, would like to know this. I have looked through many forums and sites to try to find an answer.
My Nexus 6 is:
- bootloader unlocked
- TWRP recovery
- rooted
I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts.
Is there a flashable update.zip that allows the update to 5.1? (I have seen a few, but they usually have encryption disabled - which I believe will cause me to lose my data?)
Would it be easy enough to restore stock recovery and unroot, which would allow me to flash the OTA normally - then just flash TWRP and root again?
How would I go about this?
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Why not just download the factory image of your choice, then fastboot flash everything but user data. You will keep all your data. Many users go this route. Personally, I like a fresh start that doing a factory reset gives. I backup everything to the cloud and then restore what I need to have on my phone. I mention this because it is recommended to preform a factory reset after installing the images separately. Thus avoiding any boot loops or force closings.
Evolution_Freak said:
Why not just download the factory image of your choice, then fastboot flash everything but user data. You will keep all your data. Many users go this route. Personally, I like a fresh start that doing a factory reset gives. I backup everything to the cloud and then restore what I need to have on my phone. I mention this because it is recommended to preform a factory reset after installing the images separately. Thus avoiding any boot loops or force closings.
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So do I need to flash all the images?
Can I also leave out the recovery image - or do I flash it and re-flash TWRP after?
Does flashing the OTA (normally) factory reset the device wiping all accounts and setup?
I don't want to perform a factory reset as I use the device for business and have many email accounts, sync accounts, contact accounts and other tweaks that I don't want to have to spend a few days setting up again.
fubofo said:
So do I need to flash all the images?
Can I also leave out the recovery image - or do I flash it and re-flash TWRP after?
Does flashing the OTA (normally) factory reset the device wiping all accounts and setup?
I don't want to perform a factory reset as I use the device for business and have many email accounts, sync accounts, contact accounts and other tweaks that I don't want to have to spend a few days setting up again.
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I understand, everyone's situation is different. No, an OTA will preserve all your accounts and data. Your best bet in your situation may be to flash stock recovery and remove root. Then you could sideload the OTA. Also, though I don't use or really recommend the use of toolkits, the NRT may have options available for your needs as well. There is a possibility that just removing root and TWRP may still leave traces behind. Enough that the OTA may fail.
Evolution_Freak said:
I understand, everyone's situation is different. No, an OTA will preserve all your accounts and data. Your best bet in your situation may be to flash stock recovery and remove root. Then you could sideload the OTA. Also, though I don't use or really recommend the use of toolkits, the NRT may have options available for your needs as well. There is a possibility that just removing root and TWRP may still leave traces behind. Enough that the OTA may fail.
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Could you point me to guides for returning to stock recovery and re-locking bootloader?
I can only seem to find many, many guides on how to flash a custom recovery - not the reverse.
fubofo said:
Could you point me to guides for returning to stock recovery and re-locking bootloader?
I can only seem to find many, many guides on how to flash a custom recovery - not the reverse.
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Relocking the bootloader wipes the device, so you don't want to do that.
What is your ultimate goal? Your absolute ideal situation, once you're updated. Let's learn that and work from there.
fubofo said:
Could you point me to guides for returning to stock recovery and re-locking bootloader?
I can only seem to find many, many guides on how to flash a custom recovery - not the reverse.
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You don't have to relock your bootloader. That doesn't matter. As for recovery, I believe all you have to do is obtain the proper recovery for the build you are currently running, the fastboot flash it from bootloader.
Look here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3063857
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Relocking the bootloader wipes the device, so you don't want to do that.
What is your ultimate goal? Your absolute ideal situation, once you're updated. Let's learn that and work from there.
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I already stated this in my first post (first page):
"...I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts...."
fubofo said:
I already stated this in my first post (first page):
"...I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts...."
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OK, let me ask this, what is your current software? 5.0 or 5.0.1?
fubofo said:
I already stated this in my first post (first page):
"...I would like to update to the latest 5.1 without wiping my device. I don't want to lose my setup and accounts...."
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No. That is not enough information. That is your IMMEDIATE goal. I need to know what is your ULTIMATE goal?
Right now you're rooted with twrp. In order to give you the best advice I need to know your ultimate goal is. Why are you rooted with twrp? Do you need this in the future? Why are you thinking about locking the bootloader
All this has an affect on what method you use.
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No. That is not enough information. That is your IMMEDIATE goal. I need to know what is your ULTIMATE goal?
Right now you're rooted with twrp. In order to give you the best advice I need to know your ultimate goal is. Why are you rooted with twrp? Do you need this in the future? Why are you thinking about locking the bootloader
All this has an affect on what method you use.
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Thank you sir for helping!
Evolution_Freak said:
You don't have to relock your bootloader. That doesn't matter. As for recovery, I believe all you have to do is obtain the proper recovery for the build you are currently running, the fastboot flash it from bootloader.
Look here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3063857
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Thanks @Evolution_Freak I'll give a shot at flashing just the stock recovery, unrooting and trying the OTA
I just got my N6 a few days ago, and JUST got everything all set up how I like. I went to go root it, and the method mentioned in the "All-In-One" stickied thread requires you to unlock the bootloader, which says it will factory reset the device.
I don't want to factory reset at this point, I just want to root it. I've never had to wipe a phone or unlock a bootloader to root a phone before, so this is new to me.
Thanks
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I just got my N6 a few days ago, and JUST got everything all set up how I like. I went to go root it, and the method mentioned in the "All-In-One" stickied thread requires you to unlock the bootloader, which says it will factory reset the device.
I don't want to factory reset at this point, I just want to root it. I've never had to wipe a phone or unlock a bootloader to root a phone before, so this is new to me.
Thanks
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There is a way, I believe, by running TWRP on your PC and flashing SuperSU from your PC. However, it's not a recommended method as you will have no way of backing up. Also, if you get caught in a bootloop, you won't be able to recover without a custom recovery.
arcooke said:
I just got my N6 a few days ago, and JUST got everything all set up how I like. I went to go root it, and the method mentioned in the "All-In-One" stickied thread requires you to unlock the bootloader, which says it will factory reset the device.
I don't want to factory reset at this point, I just want to root it. I've never had to wipe a phone or unlock a bootloader to root a phone before, so this is new to me.
Thanks
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and you don't have to "hack" a nexus as well, as google provided an easy way to unlock your bootloader and to obtain root. if you just got your nexus a few days ago, just unlock the bootloader and root it. loosing a few days of information is more than worth it for root. don't waste your time worrying over a few days of data.
Can be done but not recommended.
adb backup/restore can save a little bit of information for you, but I wouldn't go in expecting it to save everything
Sent from my Nexus 6
What did you set up? You can back up your messages, and your apps will re-download. Your photos are already syncing to Google. If it's not rooted, I can't imagine you've done that much customization.
Lesson learned: unlock should ALWAYS be the very first step you do on a new phone.
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I just got my N6 a few days ago, and JUST got everything all set up how I like. I went to go root it, and the method mentioned in the "All-In-One" stickied thread requires you to unlock the bootloader, which says it will factory reset the device.
I don't want to factory reset at this point, I just want to root it. I've never had to wipe a phone or unlock a bootloader to root a phone before, so this is new to me.
Thanks
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if you download kingroot from the internet and install it onto your phone through unknown sources. it says your not supported but just click start root anyway. and hey presto your rooted. ive done this on my nexus 6 and its worked and hasnt knackered the phone and i know a couple of other people whove done the same
the only thing i havnet worked out how to do is take the king userr off. once your finished rooting, in order to sustain root that app becomes a permanent addittion to the phone. ive deleted it before and lost root. but just reinstall and follow the steps again and you gain root again
to check root download root checker form the app market
danr93 said:
if you download kingroot from the internet and install it onto your phone through unknown sources. it says your not supported but just click start root anyway. and hey presto your rooted. ive done this on my nexus 6 and its worked and hasnt knackered the phone and i know a couple of other people whove done the same
the only thing i havnet worked out how to do is take the king userr off. once your finished rooting, in order to sustain root that app becomes a permanent addittion to the phone. ive deleted it before and lost root. but just reinstall and follow the steps again and you gain root again
to check root download root checker form the app market
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Yes we're aware but we do recommend against these one-click methods usually. Rooted users cannot accept OTA updates, so the only way to update is with an unlocked bootloader unless you're going to have a custom recovery (also highly recommended) so you can flash flashable zips.
Also you MUST go into settings and enable the "Allow OEM unlock" in developer options, because If you break your OS with root, which is easily done - you're going to become stuck as you can't unlock the bootloader. Not too bad if you have TWRP recovery installed, but then that becomes a single point of failure.
danarama said:
Yes we're aware but we do recommend against these one-click methods usually. Rooted users cannot accept OTA updates, so the only way to update is with an unlocked bootloader unless you're going to have a custom recovery (also highly recommended) so you can flash flashable zips.
Also you MUST go into settings and enable the "Allow OEM unlock" in developer options, because If you break your OS with root, which is easily done - you're going to become stuck as you can't unlock the bootloader. Not too bad if you have TWRP recovery installed, but then that becomes a single point of failure.
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ok thats fair enough i didnt realise it was so risky. i downloaded twrp straight after this method worked for me and got everything backed up
danr93 said:
ok thats fair enough i didnt realise it was so risky. i downloaded twrp straight after this method worked for me and got everything backed up
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Good stuff. Once rooted, Flashify is a great tool to flash TWRP. With the nexus 5, you could unlock the bootloader with an app that didnt wipe everything, which was great, but Nexus 6 doesn't allow that, but always do go to settings > developer options > OEM Unlock (Set to enable). Without this set, you cannot unlock the bootloader from fastboot. Also, side note, developer options doesn't show up until you go into Settings > About phone then tap "Build number" several times to make the option visible. Think its 7 times.
It's interesting saying that you need kingroot to remain on the device. Thats a bit of a pain. Does it install SuperSU or not? If not, might be interesting to see what happens if you install the SuperSU app from Play - whether it allows it to be removed then.
My preferred method however is definitely unlock the BL, fastboot flash TWRP, From TWRP flash SuperSU zip (or rooted ROM).
For the record, I did end up factory resetting to do it the right way.
Is this easy to unroot if a new OTA update comes out?
arcooke said:
For the record, I did end up factory resetting to do it the right way.
Is this easy to unroot if a new OTA update comes out?
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Yes and no. To "unroot" you have to fastboot flash system.img and boot.img, which if the factory image is available for the version your OTA will raise you to, you're done. If there is no factory image for that new version, you must flash the system and boot(and recovery) of the expected version, then OTA. Note, recovery version isn't checked. Only system and boot. Just that recovery must be stock for OTA to flash.
To be honest, easiest way is to wait for a rooted flashable zip to be made available and flash via recovery
danarama said:
Yes and no. To "unroot" you have to fastboot flash system.img and boot.img, which if the factory image is available for the version your OTA will raise you to, you're done. If there is no factory image for that new version, you must flash the system and boot(and recovery) of the expected version, then OTA. Note, recovery version isn't checked. Only system and boot. Just that recovery must be stock for OTA to flash.
To be honest, easiest way is to wait for a rooted flashable zip to be made available and flash via recovery
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Geez. I thought the "pure google experience" would be much less of a headache. lol. Rooting/updating/etc was so much easier on my old Verizon phones.. one-click-root, one-click-unroot, easy updates, never had to factory reset or flash roms to do anything.
I only rooted for AdAway, starting to wonder if that was a good idea or not.
arcooke said:
Geez. I thought the "pure google experience" would be much less of a headache. lol. Rooting/updating/etc was so much easier on my old Verizon phones.. one-click-root, one-click-unroot, easy updates, never had to factory reset or flash roms to do anything.
I only rooted for AdAway, starting to wonder if that was a good idea or not.
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That's lollipop for you. It changed everything.
It's still really simple.
Good to know. Thanks for the info!
Hi all, I was running a CM ROM on my Droid Turbo and recently flashed back to stock using a backup I created with TWRP, because I was tired of not having GPS capabilities.
Now that I’m running stock (still rooted), I’ve been getting a notification to do an OTA update. When I allow the update to install, it restarts my phone and sends me straight to the TWRP recovery and does nothing else. Rebooting gets me stuck in a loop where it keeps sending me to recovery. Clearing out my cache got me out of the loop but after a day or so, the annoying install message comes back.
I noticed an error message when I looked at the log screen in TWRP. As best I can transcribe it, it says:
Package expects build fingerprint of motorola/quark_verizon/quark:5.1/SU4TL-44/44:user/release-keys or Motorola/quark…. ; this device has Motorola/omni_quark/quark:5.1.1/LYZ28E/1:eng/test-keys
Does anyone have any idea what’s going on with my phone – why I can’t take the OTA? Any advice on how to fix the problem or get this stupid upgrade notification to go away? The notification takes over the device every time you unlock the screen so it’s driving me crazy.
Thanks in advance for any help!
I think you need stock recovery and bootloader.
GPS issues have long been solved, using the "clear modem" file. You sent back to stock for nothing.
If you really want SUTL-49 there's plenty of downloads to manually flash it. You don't need the OTA.
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to stick with stock now. Have been enjoying the Motorola features like the hands-free driving thing and I wasn't seeing any advantage running CM anymore. Can I flash SUTL-49 using TWRP or do I have to hook to a PC and use ADB?
shinydiamond said:
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to stick with stock now. Have been enjoying the Motorola features like the hands-free driving thing and I wasn't seeing any advantage running CM anymore. Can I flash SUTL-49 using TWRP or do I have to hook to a PC and use ADB?
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You can flash it with TWRP from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-su4tl-49-100-stock-t3390041
Thank you!
Since there are not too many stable ROMs available on the XT1096 that support CDMA (I am using Verizon's network). I decided I would unlock my bootloader, flash TWRP and root the stock firmware. Well, the past few days I guess I did not update my phone all the way before doing this since I just got it not even a week ago and keep getting prompts to install an OTA. This will obviously not work with TWRP and when I flashed TWRP I selected to modify the system so the stock firmware would not rewrite recovery on boot. This has become a complete pain in the ass for me. Accidently I selected to install the OTA since it is always in my notifications and when it happened it would obviously fail in TWRP but then it would boot back into the ROM and then power cycle back into TWRP. The only way to stop it was to do a factory reset which is not what I would like to do every time I accidently select to install this OTA. So my questions to you awesome people who know more about this device are. 1. is there a way I can enable the to option to where I will always have a stock recovery and then I can just fastboot boot into TWRP if needed? Or is there another way where I can just possibly stop this OTA all together even though the prompt already says it's downloaded and waiting for me to hit install. Like can I just go into rootexplorrer and delete or modify a few system files that'll stop the phone for looking for OTAs? I don't reallyl care about the OTA since it's obviously not 6.0 since VZW got boned on that one. Looks like it's just some security patches.
I'm sure this is probably a really stupid and simple question, so I apologize in advance. But thank you SO MUCH to anyone who decides to help me out. I will appreciate it GREATLY!!!
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Since there are not too many stable ROMs available on the XT1096 that support CDMA (I am using Verizon's network). I decided I would unlock my bootloader, flash TWRP and root the stock firmware. Well, the past few days I guess I did not update my phone all the way before doing this since I just got it not even a week ago and keep getting prompts to install an OTA. This will obviously not work with TWRP and when I flashed TWRP I selected to modify the system so the stock firmware would not rewrite recovery on boot. This has become a complete pain in the ass for me. Accidently I selected to install the OTA since it is always in my notifications and when it happened it would obviously fail in TWRP but then it would boot back into the ROM and then power cycle back into TWRP. The only way to stop it was to do a factory reset which is not what I would like to do every time I accidently select to install this OTA. So my questions to you awesome people who know more about this device are. 1. is there a way I can enable the to option to where I will always have a stock recovery and then I can just fastboot boot into TWRP if needed? Or is there another way where I can just possibly stop this OTA all together even though the prompt already says it's downloaded and waiting for me to hit install. Like can I just go into rootexplorrer and delete or modify a few system files that'll stop the phone for looking for OTAs? I don't reallyl care about the OTA since it's obviously not 6.0 since VZW got boned on that one. Looks like it's just some security patches.
I'm sure this is probably a really stupid and simple question, so I apologize in advance. But thank you SO MUCH to anyone who decides to help me out. I will appreciate it GREATLY!!!
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Try using your favorite applications manager for root and freeze MotorolaOTA. This will prevent the update from being downloaded and you won't get messages about installing the OTA update.
As the title says, I have a completely stock Nexus 6. It has the Oct 2017 patch version of Android 7.1.1. I'm at the point where I want to upgrade to Android 9 using LineageOS 16.0. However, reading the LineageOS instructions it sounds like I can't unlock the bootloader without it wiping my phone contents. As the warning at the top says:
"WARNING: Unlocking the bootloader will erase all data on your device! Before proceeding, ensure the data you would like to retain is backed up to your PC and/or your Google account, or equivalent."
Is there any way for me to flash custom recovery without losing the phone contents so I can perform a backup of the phone in it's current state? Or maybe there's an ADB way to perform a backup to the PC before unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks,
-Greg
spikeygg said:
Is there any way for me to flash custom recovery without losing the phone contents so I can perform a backup of the phone in it's current state? Or maybe there's an ADB way to perform a backup to the PC before unlocking the bootloader?
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To flash anything, even the recovery, requires an unlocked bootloader, thus you would lose everything. Using ADB it is possible to back up a device with a locked bootloader, but I can't tell you the steps or commands off the top of my head. And restoring such a backup is not recommended in any event when switching ROMs.
Now, if you're looking to back up your personal files such as your music or pictures you don't even need ADB. Just your PC"s file manager.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
To flash anything, even the recovery, requires an unlocked bootloader, thus you would lose everything. Using ADB it is possible to back up a device with a locked bootloader, but I can't tell you the steps or commands off the top of my head. And restoring such a backup is not recommended in any event when switching ROMs.
Now, if you're looking to back up your personal files such as your music or pictures you don't even need ADB. Just your PC"s file manager.
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Good to know, that's what I suspected. Thanks for the confirmation.