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I want to learn how to develop...I mean of course it wont be an over the night thing, but i still have 70 years to spare.
I want to contribute to the community, and isn't that what linux is all about?
My first question, Can i develop android in ubuntu? or does it HAVE to be eclipse?
I wouldn't mind downloading both anyways since i want to learn how to use ubuntu anyways.
yeah..so i guess all im asking is for someone to set me in the right direction?
Also android is written in java too right?
hoshmosh said:
I want to learn how to develop...I mean of course it wont be an over the night thing, but i still have 70 years to spare.
I want to contribute to the community, and isn't that what linux is all about?
My first question, Can i develop android in ubuntu? or does it HAVE to be eclipse?
I wouldn't mind downloading both anyways since i want to learn how to use ubuntu anyways.
yeah..so i guess all im asking is for someone to set me in the right direction?
Also android is written in java too right?
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Eclipse is a program that runs under ubuntu/windows/mac. It's only needed for development if you're going to be doing app modifications, etc, it completely depends what kind of development you want to do.
Kernel/Source editing can be done in notepad if you want but you're still gonna need to know some java.
Interested in learning as well
I'm also interested in learning to develop apps for android and apparently we're in the same boat and level (beginner) - Currently I have 22 apps and 10 live wallpapers I'd like to develop but I'm still doing the reading and software acquisitions necessary to start so PLEASE drop me a line on anything you figure out or learn and where you acquired the info/tutorial - who knows maybe we can get this software company going lol (big dreams here)
The guys on here seem to be light years ahead of us but I've got hella time to devote to learning, testing and development so I'm ready to go
Meltus said:
Eclipse is a program that runs under ubuntu/windows/mac. It's only needed for development if you're going to be doing app modifications, etc, it completely depends what kind of development you want to do.
Kernel/Source editing can be done in notepad if you want but you're still gonna need to know some java.
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JAVA knowledge is a MUST for development.
Also based on my own experience Eclipse does not work well under Windows.
I've tried to modify the Launcher app from Cyanogen's source to have 7 screens in stead of 5 and it failed each time. I edited it in Ubuntu and it worked the first time. Just need to have Java 5 installed (not sure if there was a fix for Java 6 discovered yet). Eclipse works very well in Windows if you just plan on editing .9.png files but that's more theming than development. So bottom line Ubuntu is highly advisable.
I guess you could always start somewhere by reading some of this.
Firstly i would like to day hello to all and thank you for all the great work you guys have been doing. If it wasn't for your site i would be a lost soul.
Now to get to the point. I am getting my HD2 within the next two weeks and would like to know if i upgrade to wp7 and get the activation code, will i be able to do live updates and so on oficially? If this is poster before i do apologize but i could not find the answer.
I'm from Cape Town South Africa. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
With updates do you mean system updates? In this case, no, you have to wait. Now we're all waiting for DFT to release the NoDo version
Thanks allot for the response. Looking forward to it.
I did mean the official updates from ms yes, sorry forgot to put that in there.
No, you and I are at the mercy of "黑暗軍團" (Dark Legion). It is up to him to release updates and you cannot update via zune, because it will download files, reboot your phone a few times, and then fail.
Lovely. Guess ill stick with SPB and the 6.5 till then. Got so many awesome apps on my I900 and don't think its a good idea to lose all that atm. Also would like to start to create a few apps and so on for WP7 but I guess ill need a WP for that.
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I did mean the official updates from ms yes, sorry forgot to put that in there.
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And how on earth would you be able to get an "official" update from M$? There is no "official" HD2 WP7 software/drivers!?
What you have is a custom rom which has been edited to run on your hardware.
I do understand that and did think that was the case but i figured no harm in asking just to make sure. I don't assume something since we know about assumptions. Thanks for the info.
Which is better and more intrestiong iOS development or Android Development???
In what way?
Both are different forms of coding, however 2 separate languages
MacaronyMax said:
In what way?
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In having fun
MacaronyMax said:
Both are different forms of coding, however 2 separate languages
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I know but I develop nothing now so I want to start from the very beggining
This is an Android and Windows Phone forum. There's only a minority of people on here with iPhones or iPads, so I'd imagine a very small number of developers. You're gonna get a VERY biased point of view on here.
What programming have you done before now, and why do you want to program for either platform?
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This is an Android and Windows Phone forum. There's only a minority of people on here with iPhones or iPads, so I'd imagine a very small number of developers. You're gonna get a VERY biased point of view on here.
What programming have you done before now, and why do you want to program for either platform?
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I Didn't try any language until now!!!
Gen1usw0rk said:
In having fun
I know but I develop nothing now so I want to start from the very beggining
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I guess you could say neither are fun, writing out hundreds of lines of code, It's up to you, I mean, Android is a growing OS, and if you can develop a quality app you have the potential for more users, and IOS also has a large user base, The are no 'thrills' that one has over the other, but if you want to develop for IOS you must be using a Mac with xcode installed, otherwise to develop android you need the SDK and eclipse which is available on most major OS's (Windows, Mac, Linux)
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I guess you could say neither are fun, writing out hundreds of lines of code, It's up to you, I mean, Android is a growing OS, and if you can develop a quality app you have the potential for more users, and IOS also has a large user base, The are no 'thrills' that one has over the other, but if you want to develop for IOS you must be using a Mac with xcode installed, otherwise to develop android you need the SDK and eclipse which is available on most major OS's (Windows, Mac, Linux)
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OK!! in your experience how can I start developing android from the very beggining????
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I Didn't try any language until now!!!
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The main question you should be asking then, is weather you want to learn Objective C or Java, Both can be used for non iOS/android things and one day you might want to try something PC based using one of the languages you learn
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Gen1usw0rk said:
OK!! in your experience how can I start developing android from the very beggining????
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Either a course in college, Orrr, online tutorials, I reccoment checking out thenewboston and mybringback for video tut's both are useful
Gen1usw0rk said:
OK!! in your experience how can I start developing android from the very beggining????
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Honestly not being funny here. Get a dummies guide, since you're starting from scratch. It's a MASSIVE field that you're entering and there's years and years worth of learning ahead of you, if you want to be any good. This isn't gonna happen overnight, and it won't happen easily.
The main question you should be asking then, is weather you want to learn Objective C or Java, Both can be used for non iOS/android things and one day you might want to try something PC based using one of the languages you learn
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Which is more powerful in your opinion????
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Honestly not being funny here. Get a dummies guide, since you're starting from scratch. It's a MASSIVE field that you're entering and there's years and years worth of learning ahead of you, if you want to be any good. This isn't gonna happen overnight, and it won't happen easily.
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I already have android development for dummies but it tells you to buy xml and java books??
Gen1usw0rk said:
I already have android development for dummies but it tells you to buy xml and java books??
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If it's telling you to get a Java book then it's not a very good "Android for dummies" book. Xml is very straight forward and there's more than enough online to sort you out with that. It's only a way of structuring data, anyway.
The only real answer to your question is another question. What platform do you want to develop on?
The language and platform are irrelevant to the amount of fun or anguish that you will face while developing software.
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If it's telling you to get a Java book then it's not a very good "Android for dummies" book. Xml is very straight forward and there's more than enough online to sort you out with that. It's only a way of structuring data, anyway.
The only real answer to your question is another question. What platform do you want to develop on?
The language and platform are irrelevant to the amount of fun or anguish that you will face while developing software.
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I think I want to develop android!!
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Which is more powerful in your opinion????
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I don't know much about Objective C but afaik (Someone correct me? ) it's based on C#/C++ so picking up those languages could be easier, Java can be used in Applets on the web, PC programs and games (eg. Minecraft) but, I think the same can be done with C++
And the reason the Dummy book told you to get the others is because the Android one is telling you how to use the java you should already know, but don't so that it can be more in detail, also I would say maybe skimp the xml one as it's mainly fairly simple in android as far as my experience is with it anyway (not much))
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I don't know much about Objective C but afaik (Someone correct me? ) it's based on C#/C++ so picking up those languages could be easier, Java can be used in Applets on the web, PC programs and games (eg. Minecraft) but, I think the same can be done with C++
And the reason the Dummy book told you to get the others is because the Android one is telling you how to use the java you should already know, but don't so that it can be more in detail, also I would say maybe skimp the xml one as it's mainly fairly simple in android as far as my experience is with it anyway (not much))
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What language did you really tried to develop???
AppReal said:
IMO developing android is easier because almost all tools are free if you've got PC. To develop ios you should have Mac what is additional cost.
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I know that mac costs money
But I got a mac and xCode became free now!!!
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I've tried a lil bit of many All extremely basic level so I have no idea what they're like at a more complicated level
But I have tried both Objective C and Android, I preffered the structure of the objective C and imo it looks more clean when coding, but Java I got further with
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I don't know much about Objective C but afaik (Someone correct me? ) it's based on C#/C++ so picking up those languages could be easier, Java can be used in Applets on the web, PC programs and games (eg. Minecraft) but, I think the same can be done with C++
And the reason the Dummy book told you to get the others is because the Android one is telling you how to use the java you should already know, but don't so that it can be more in detail, also I would say maybe skimp the xml one as it's mainly fairly simple in android as far as my experience is with it anyway (not much))
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Nearly, but the wrong way round. C begets C++ begets C#. C++ is the language of choice for most developers that want to communicate directly with hardware. Other languages tend to actually be writting in C or C++ and therefore only have wrappers for the really low-level functions.
But yeah, any C based language or Java can be used to develop apps on PC, Linux, Mac, so they're both good ways to go. Java for Android means learning Java as well as the Android framework, whereas C for iPhone means learning C and the iPhone framework. Both come with their benefits and drawbacks, but personally I think Java is easier to learn than C, purely because it's not as deep. Saying that though, I've never looked at objective C or the iPhone framework. I just know C/C++ from old days.
I wanted to develop android first but when I read this I changed my mind and got spinning my mind!!!!xD
Gen1usw0rk said:
I wanted to develop android first but when I read this I changed my mind and got spinning my mind!!!!xD
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Lol - that's some trolling going on right there! Very misleading article too.
My friend had recently purchased a Samsung GT-18750 from another friend thinking I could install android onto it. After hearing his proposal to do so I thought It'd be possible but I knew nothing about Windows phones. So he had given it to me and I have had no luck in my search for installing android onto this phone. I understand that there are plenty of custom ROM's for it but I need android as you can't do much with a windows phone that you could do with an android, also that windows has no good apps or games that are at least common in any way. So I was wondering if there was anyone who could direct me on how to install android onto a Samsung GT-18750?
Is this another "hey I have a windows phone here that I want to shoe horn android onto" dude seriously go buy an android phone as there is a lot more android phones out there to choose some so this request pardon my lack of manners is just stupid
sent from my denim licious orange nokia 930
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My friend had recently purchased a Samsung GT-18750 from another friend thinking I could install android onto it. After hearing his proposal to do so I thought It'd be possible but I knew nothing about Windows phones. So he had given it to me and I have had no luck in my search for installing android onto this phone. I understand that there are plenty of custom ROM's for it but I need android as you can't do much with a windows phone that you could do with an android, also that windows has no good apps or games that are at least common in any way. So I was wondering if there was anyone who could direct me on how to install android onto a Samsung GT-18750?
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For now it's not possible because requires a signed custom ROM.
Actually there are no "real custom rom", only modded CSC file (configuration file for rom) that edit the Registry.
ADeltaX said:
For now it's not possible because requires a signed custom ROM.
Actually there are no "real custom rom", only modded CSC file (configuration file for rom) that edit the Registry.
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Anything that will put any sort of android on there. I do not care if it is modded or not real or rooted or it voids the warranty. I would just like to help my friend. The main issue is not having the android apps he wants. Even if there is some way to get android apps on there?
noelito said:
Is this another "hey I have a windows phone here that I want to shoe horn android onto" dude seriously go buy an android phone as there is a lot more android phones out there to choose some so this request pardon my lack of manners is just stupid
sent from my denim licious orange nokia 930
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I'm sorry you were unable to read my post properly, but if you can't, can you at least notify us of that in your comment. I said my friend bought it, and he wants android on it, so in more English, I was asking if someone could help me get android onto the windows phone (Samsung Ativ-S) that .MY. FRIEND. BOUGHT. NOT, can you please taunt my on my lack of knowledge in the field of Windows Phones. If you have trouble understanding English please go here http://www.englishpage.com/
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I'm sorry you were unable to read my post properly, but if you can't, can you at least notify us of that in your comment. I said my friend bought it, and he wants android on it, so in more English, I was asking if someone could help me get android onto the windows phone (Samsung Ativ-S) that .MY. FRIEND. BOUGHT. NOT, can you please taunt my on my lack of knowledge in the field of Windows Phones. If you have trouble understanding English please go here http://www.englishpage.com/
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He understood your post and gave an appropriate answer, it's not possible and even a little bit of research would have given you the same answer
please use the search bar
matgras said:
He understood your post and gave an appropriate answer, it's not possible and even a little bit of research would have given you the same answer
please use the search bar
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I have an android phone, I have a jflte with the Pacman 4.4.4 ROM. What the gentleman couldn't understand is it wasn't I that had purchased the device. And if he had read it then he would understand that from that post he could of never determined that I had not bought an android device, in saying that his implication was to say that I would need to buy an android device to get android. He did not read the post, and as it seems to me that you concludes that he had, then I am only to left to conclude that he has trouble understanding the English language in its full form, something else that lead to suggest his lack in understanding of English is the way he constructed his statement; although it may not be true, he himself left enough evidence to believe so. So you must understand that either he did not read the post or does not understand English.
So here's the deal. I got an old X8 with Android 1.6 from ebay a few months back for the fun of it and I've been trying to install cyanogenmod or something similar on it so I could use it as a portable emulation device. Now I'll be honest, I'm a complete noob. (My greatest computing achievement is installing Puppy Linux on a laptop 5 years older than the X8.) I've scowered these here forums and other places on the web far and wide but still came out unsuccessful. I couldn't even figure out how to boot it in fastboot mode, which was the hurdle that killed it for me. I think so far I've only managed to root the thing, whatever comes after just keeps flying over my head. So here's what I would like to do.
-Install apps capable of decently emulating systems such as the PS1, GBA, GBC, N64, MD, 32X...
-Connect a gamepad through USB or BT (If even physically possible)
-Preserve the media playback abilities of the device as it came, as well as the ability to take photos
-Being able to browse the web and watch videos would be kinda cool too but I know it's a stretch...
I know that all the stuff I need is probably still out there somewhere but as I said I am a *complete and utter* noob with honestly little skill and patience.
So if anyone here is willing to help me with any guidance (or perhaps even a step-by-step guide, oh my!) on how to squeeze the best out of the wee thing with the best ROM, be it Cyanogenmod or anything else, or get it to work with a proper controller with the best apps and stuff, I will be very grateful. I'll offer you my French skills if you need them lol. Also sorry for writing a text brick...
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So here's the deal. I got an old X8 with Android 1.6 from ebay a few months back for the fun of it and I've been trying to install cyanogenmod or something similar on it so I could use it as a portable emulation device. Now I'll be honest, I'm a complete noob. (My greatest computing achievement is installing Puppy Linux on a laptop 5 years older than the X8.) I've scowered these here forums and other places on the web far and wide but still came out unsuccessful. I couldn't even figure out how to boot it in fastboot mode, which was the hurdle that killed it for me. I think so far I've only managed to root the thing, whatever comes after just keeps flying over my head. So here's what I would like to do.
-Install apps capable of decently emulating systems such as the PS1, GBA, GBC, N64, MD, 32X...
-Connect a gamepad through USB or BT (If even physically possible)
-Preserve the media playback abilities of the device as it came, as well as the ability to take photos
-Being able to browse the web and watch videos would be kinda cool too but I know it's a stretch...
I know that all the stuff I need is probably still out there somewhere but as I said I am a *complete and utter* noob with honestly little skill and patience.
So if anyone here is willing to help me with any guidance (or perhaps even a step-by-step guide, oh my!) on how to squeeze the best out of the wee thing with the best ROM, be it Cyanogenmod or anything else, or get it to work with a proper controller with the best apps and stuff, I will be very grateful. I'll offer you my French skills if you need them lol. Also sorry for writing a text brick...
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Hello PocketStationMan. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT I HAVE A CYANOGENMOD ROM IN THE THREAD I HAD DONE A FEW DAYS AGO. DOWNLOAD IT FROM MY THREAD AND I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME FROM THE FORUM DOING A NEW CONVERSTATION!!!
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Hello PocketStationMan. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT I HAVE A CYANOGENMOD ROM IN THE THREAD I HAD DONE A FEW DAYS AGO. DOWNLOAD IT FROM MY THREAD AND I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME FROM THE FORUM DOING A NEW CONVERSTATION!!!
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Can it be done on Windows XP?
PocketStationMan said:
Can it be done on Windows XP?
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YES!!! BUT YOU MUST HAVE FLASHTOOL!!!
Stefanos53 said:
YES!!! BUT YOU MUST HAVE FLASHTOOL!!!
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Alright. Where should I get it from? Sorry if I sound like a moron but I really want to make sure I get proper guidance so I don't brick this little beauty.