why is there no custom rom for the a71 - Samsung Galaxy A71 Questions & Answers

i just dont get it cheaper phones like the poco x3 pro got pixel experience lineage os officially while the a71 a more expensive phone has yet to get one that is why i got a x3 pro the support from custom rom devs most samsung phones have unofficial or bad custom roms for eg pixel expereince the latest samusng phone to support it is the s7 edge do custom rom devs not care about samsung i dont get it ? every poco phone has lineage or some other rom

Zainullahk1234 said:
i just dont get it cheaper phones like the poco x3 pro got pixel experience lineage os officially while the a71 a more expensive phone has yet to get one that is why i got a x3 pro the support from custom rom devs most samsung phones have unofficial or bad custom roms for eg pixel expereince the latest samusng phone to support it is the s7 edge do custom rom devs not care about samsung i dont get it ? every poco phone has lineage or some other rom
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Zainullahk1234 said:
i just dont get it cheaper phones like the poco x3 pro got pixel experience lineage os officially while the a71 a more expensive phone has yet to get one that is why i got a x3 pro the support from custom rom devs most samsung phones have unofficial or bad custom roms for eg pixel expereince the latest samusng phone to support it is the s7 edge do custom rom devs not care about samsung i dont get it ? every poco phone has lineage or some other rom
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theres gsi dot os , sakura you can found it at a71 telegram group

Zainullahk1234 said:
i just dont get it cheaper phones like the poco x3 pro got pixel experience lineage os officially while the a71 a more expensive phone has yet to get one that is why i got a x3 pro the support from custom rom devs most samsung phones have unofficial or bad custom roms for eg pixel expereince the latest samusng phone to support it is the s7 edge do custom rom devs not care about samsung i dont get it ? every poco phone has lineage or some other rom
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In case you haven't been keeping up with the Samsung scene, it seems they implement more and more stuff to discourage custom ROMs and rooting. It started with Knox and then stuff like RMM locks. Now, Samsung is trying to disable your cameras on newer phones if you ever unlock the bootloader, which is pretty anti-consumer and anti-dev. That's the main reason you don't see a lot of newer Samsung development, because it's just not worth the hassle.

I agree with ShaDisNX255. The harder you try, the worse it gets. not worth it.

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In case you haven't been keeping up with the Samsung scene, it seems they implement more and more stuff to discourage custom ROMs and rooting. It started with Knox and then stuff like RMM locks. Now, Samsung is trying to disable your cameras on newer phones if you ever unlock the bootloader, which is pretty anti-consumer and anti-dev. That's the main reason you don't see a lot of newer Samsung development, because it's just not worth the hassle.
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im agree with this this why developer doesnt make custom rom in samsung

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Stock android

Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
Useless on a Note !
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abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
winol said:
By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
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I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
I'm just adding my sentiment. If you want stock Android, get a Pixel device or Motorola or Nokia or almost anything else. You buy a Samsung device for the features they add. If you don't like or use those features, then don't buy something for $1,000 just to essentially cripple it afterwards.
abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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Lineage 15.1 was released yesterday for the note 8, it is in alpha stage though.
Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
sandeepkumar0153 said:
I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
Ace42 said:
Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
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Couldn't agree more on this. I bought my note 8 after i have used a note 8 port rom on my j7 2016.
And honestly i will prefer the note this way and i haven't even rooted yet. I miss viper4android so much but atleast we have Dolby atmos in N8.
iceepyon said:
I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Exactly, you buy a note device for what i gives not what you can mod it into using a custom rom. Root and xposed is an other thing, but custom rom, that too an AOSP ? Completely dumb people out there.
I think it is about choice, not stupidity, like it's said a couple of times here.
Let people do what they want with their phone, like you do.
The thing is i am a university student and thought that i would use the pen.. turned out i didn't use it nor did i use any of the other features..
Second i am not from the US so pixel is not an option unless i would pay around 100 to 200 extra dollar to get it without a warranty.. this goes to the oneplus..
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
abdulrrahman said:
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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You do know that once you install a custom OS on the Note. The camera quality goes down. As custom OSes do not have the same camera optimisation software as the Samsung Stock OS.
I was planning to use the pixel camera app
abdulrrahman said:
I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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Of course yo would, that is the point, once you install a stock android,, the camera will no longer be driven by the samsung software, exactly what iceepyon told you, the samsung hardware is specifically constructed to work efficiently with samsung firmwares
Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
People are not "dumb or stupid" if they're looking for customization options on XDA. They're maybe "wrong" in some cases. Just tell them why.
To answer your question:
These days there are too many flagships and midrange phones out there. Also The oems use different hardwares and barely release their source codes and drivers. Plus, stock roms are way more feature rich and fluid than before. For all these reasons the development of vanilla based roms is limited and less reasonable for most phones. Except pixel phones and Android one phones. Even there, all different roms are lineage-based and basically the same, with same features and same bugs! But different visuall traits!
There is a Lineage os for note 8.0 but in very early stages. About other custom roms (stock based), they do a great job in terms of features and removing so called bloatwares, but personally I recommend you staying on stock because unlike few years ago, stock roms get you better performance, features, battery life, etc. I'm currently using pixel 2 and note 8 and trust me, you get bored by plain android!
pooyab said:
Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
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Now I'm going to watch Taylor Swift music videos and read the comments, when I get home.

Android Q on cactus ?

Hey everyone!
If you have noticed a lot of the older Xiaomi models and some other phones successfully ran Android Q, of course with minor bugs.
So since Redmi will stop providing MIUI updates after MIUI 11, does anyone plan to develop and test newer android version ?
The GSI partition on this phone is just bad, it's not as flexible as other phones.
And there's hardly any chance to port future MIUI versions (tried to port for some other models, didn't boot ).
So do you think maybe it's high time to make up a proper custom ROM for this ?
MTK makes this task stupidly hard to achieve, i don't think we're getting further than treble anytime soon.
dogenumberpi said:
MTK makes this task stupidly hard to achieve, i don't think we're getting further than treble anytime soon.
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That's true, though some MTK devices did achieve full treble support.
I was looking into Xiaomi Qin 2, and I realized it's interface is damn beautiful. Don't know what it runs on but it sure looks nice. Kinda regret buying 6A for almost the same price. I would have gone for the Qin 2 instead. Of course, I don't think Mi is releasing the Qin 2 software or will it ever get ported ?

Likelihood of having decent development / Custom ROMs?

I've been using OnePlus 3T for almost 3 years now and planning to switch to either Redmi K20 Pro or Realme X2 Pro. The stakes are matched one-to-one pretty much, as far as my requirements are concerned, except for one thing.
XDA activity/ custom ROMs, which I love with OnePlus 3T. Though not an extreme flashaholic, and because I'm ditching OnePlus for its pricing strategy, near-stock OS or the choice of custom OS is my only deal-breaker against X2 Pro.
I do understand that X2 Pro is quite new while the K20 Pro has been in around for a decent while and picked up a more-than-decent choice of custom ROMs (Havoc/Pixel Experience/LOS), I would like to understand how well X2 Pro is being received/adopted by the developer community. If the adoption is decent, I am ready wait a little longer for it and get X2 Pro!
I'm eargerly waiting custom roms too.
I might even consider to make a thread to raise money to send a device to some devs I contacted that might be willing to work on the realme X2 pro.
But for the moment I'm waiting realme to fix the fingerprint issue when unlocking bootloader otherwise no custom roms will be feasible.
I tried GSIs from AOSP, LineageOS and PixelExperience, all of them get me into boot loops. I'm also really hoping for a custom rom to come out soon, ColorOS is very disappointing.
zxasqw1234 said:
I tried GSIs from AOSP, LineageOS and PixelExperience, all of them get me into boot loops. I'm also really hoping for a custom rom to come out soon, ColorOS is very disappointing.
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With ColorOS7 Realme will makes a more Android-factory feeling
nazagan said:
I'm eargerly waiting custom roms too.
I might even consider to make a thread to raise money to send a device to some devs I contacted that might be willing to work on the realme X2 pro.
But for the moment I'm waiting realme to fix the fingerprint issue when unlocking bootloader otherwise no custom roms will be feasible.
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I am in ?????
nathan30 said:
With ColorOS7 Realme will makes a more Android-factory feeling
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I hope so, though I have the CN version which would probably disappoint again.

Should I exchange my s20FE 5G with Oneplus 9RT/Mi 11x pro?

I don't have any problems with the device, just that I am used to modding my devices and Samsung has made it very unappealing to root/unlock their phones. So if I trade this device, which is still under warranty, will it be a good deal?
that's gotta be entirely your decision as you've got to live with it. Oneplus 9 might've fixed some of it's heat issues or the community might've solved it, but look into that first. don't know much about the Xiaomi other than you need custom firmware because the stock one isn't good and the cameras aren't bad.
I'm currently running Lineage 19 GSI with a modified quick settings pull down, I'm rooted and have TWRP. the only thing I'm missing that I want is v4a and I could submit logs to get that fixed if I wanted. Samsung phones have had Knox for nearly a decade now, accepting Knox's demise going in is standard for Samsung modders. this phone is a rare chance to a Samsung with a snapdragon that can be rooted/modded for many people. custom roms are being worked on but both devs are new to Samsung and really struggling with a final major bug. if they overcome the problem custom roms will start to come thru with greater ease.
3mel said:
that's gotta be entirely your decision as you've got to live with it. Oneplus 9 might've fixed some of it's heat issues or the community might've solved it, but look into that first. don't know much about the Xiaomi other than you need custom firmware because the stock one isn't good and the cameras aren't bad.
I'm currently running Lineage 19 GSI with a modified quick settings pull down, I'm rooted and have TWRP. the only thing I'm missing that I want is v4a and I could submit logs to get that fixed if I wanted. Samsung phones have had Knox for nearly a decade now, accepting Knox's demise going in is standard for Samsung modders. this phone is a rare chance to a Samsung with a snapdragon that can be rooted/modded for many people. custom roms are being worked on but both devs are new to Samsung and really struggling with a final major bug. if they overcome the problem custom roms will start to come thru with greater ease.
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Well that last line gives me hope.
well the truth is the two guys working on roms have been struggling with getting the SIM cards to be recognised for months, to the point of needing to walk away for their sanity. the projects may resume or might not. there are one or two other devs with this phone who've said they'll be waiting until all the official updates are finished releasing. again there, no guarantee they'll even still have the phone by that time.
most guys are using GSI roms for now, they're OK but a full custom rom would be better.
If you like custom roms and development related fun with your device, you should go with xiaomi, xiaomi devices has better developement range and easy way to play with it, but oneplus hasn't as i also own 9rt and i am not a big fan of google dialer and because of only dialer i want to change rom to chinese( as 9rt has only chinese rom and chinese rom might have oneplus dialer ) and i am unable to find a proper thread or guide to get familier with oneplus phone - unlocking bootloader, flashing rom and vice versa. but in same case with xiaomi its easier and lots of videos on youtube too to get it done.
but mi 11 x pro has not a lot of custom roms, instead of this mi 11x has a wide range and you should try this
But one thing keep in mind among all devices you said and includes mi 11x samsnug s20 fe is best as i used all of this devcices and currently i am on 9rt samsung is good with stock rom you do not need to flash any custom rom.
mi 11x has best performance according to price but worst camera, mi 11x pro good phone but so so camera, 9rt is good in 3 of this but no wide range of custom developement.

Question MIUI 13 FOR PIXEL 7 (Panther) & pro (Cheetah)

does anyone have an idea if anybody is working on porting miui 13 to G. pixel7 & pro?
usually the google phones get miui within weeks of release of the phone, but i haven't heard
any news on any dev or group talking about working on the rom.
if you have any info on this, please do post what you know with links for us that are interested
to check the info plz.
Guess not
Seriously, why would you want that? Sure, tastes are different, but why would you put a bloated, overstyled, ad-infected and closed source (MIUI Apps and Kits) ROM/OS on a Pixel device which comes with pure Android out of the box? MIUI was once a great ROM and a lot of fun... from 2010 to 2015 or '16 maybe. By now it's something I would really avoid. I understand if folks like Graphene OS, Lineage OS, ROMs based on AOSP on their Pixels. But hell no, I would not desecrate a Pixel with MIUI, Color OS... anything that comes from Xiaomi or BBK Electronics.
t-ryder said:
Seriously, why would you want that? Sure, tastes are different, but why would you put a bloated, overstyled, ad-infected and closed source (MIUI Apps and Kits) ROM/OS on a Pixel device which comes with pure Android out of the box? MIUI was once a great ROM and a lot of fun... from 2010 to 2015 or '16 maybe. By now it's something I would really avoid. I understand if folks like Graphene OS, Lineage OS, ROMs based on AOSP on their Pixels. But hell no, I would not desecrate a Pixel with MIUI, Color OS... anything that comes from Xiaomi or BBK Electronics.
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Hilarious but the truth.
t-ryder said:
Seriously, why would you want that? Sure, tastes are different, but why would you put a bloated, overstyled, ad-infected and closed source (MIUI Apps and Kits) ROM/OS on a Pixel device which comes with pure Android out of the box? MIUI was once a great ROM and a lot of fun... from 2010 to 2015 or '16 maybe. By now it's something I would really avoid. I understand if folks like Graphene OS, Lineage OS, ROMs based on AOSP on their Pixels. But hell no, I would not desecrate a Pixel with MIUI, Color OS... anything that comes from Xiaomi or BBK Electronics.
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Happy to elaborate! Stock OS 13 sucks balls. OnePlus is the only company I seen as of yet who is able to keep the much desired options and functions intact. Android 13 overhauled the entire UI and continued the stupid trend of big, flashy, dumb and hidden , that all systems and devices tend to have. Making everything bigger, harder to find and remove functions that many powers users love is the common trend. I'm up for trying a new ROM that mimicks OnePlus that could potentially give more function and features back. I've never tried MIUI yet but praying for changing out.
R0ttenB4ndit said:
Happy to elaborate! Stock OS 13 sucks balls. OnePlus is the only company I seen as of yet who is able to keep the much desired options and functions intact. Android 13 overhauled the entire UI and continued the stupid trend of big, flashy, dumb and hidden , that all systems and devices tend to have. Making everything bigger, harder to find and remove functions that many powers users love is the common trend. I'm up for trying a new ROM that mimicks OnePlus that could potentially give more function and features back. I've never tried MIUI yet but praying for changing out.
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You may not have noticed, but BBK Electronics is the company behind Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus, Realme und iQOO and their stock ROMs are going to have or have the same base, which will or has change(d) things for Oxygen OS. BBK is a big ass company, and the Oxygen OS from the original OnePlus has lost it's soul when Oppo merged with OnePlus. BBK is up to max profits, so they try to save money on development and Oxygen OS / Color OS and all that stuff will be (almost) the same I guess. I had a OnePlus 9, and when I realized they did not implement OIS on the regular 9 to upsell the pro model it was the deathblow after being annoyed by the newer OnePlus stuff. I had a Realme GT 2 Pro, and those ROMs are OKish, but having a Pixel somehow feels more like the real thing.
Regarding Xiaomi/MIUI ... why do people get a Pixel 7 and not a Mi 12 Pro, if they prefer some bloated kindergarten OS like MIUI? I had the first MIUI ROMs on my HTC desire back then, was an admin of 2 german MIUI forums, translating the ROM and what not, but as Xiaomi got bigger the overall concept of MIUI/Xiaomi went down the drain and I started to avoid Xiaomi. Sure, they got a lot of cool gadgets and stuff, but screw that company for so many reasons.
Just read today, that the first nightly of Lineage OS is available for Panther... maybe give that one a try before wishing for MIUI. If there would be a MIUI ROM for the newer Pixels, let's hope it would be based on the xiaomi.eu ROM.
Why not just buy a xiaomi phone. I used to love MIUI and Xiaomi things, but not now. I like Xiaomi 13 and will not buy pixel 7 if Xiaomi 13 has some custom rom with well support
t-ryder said:
You may not have noticed, but BBK Electronics is the company behind Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus, Realme und iQOO and their stock ROMs are going to have or have the same base, which will or has change(d) things for Oxygen OS. BBK is a big ass company, and the Oxygen OS from the original OnePlus has lost it's soul when Oppo merged with OnePlus. BBK is up to max profits, so they try to save money on development and Oxygen OS / Color OS and all that stuff will be (almost) the same I guess. I had a OnePlus 9, and when I realized they did not implement OIS on the regular 9 to upsell the pro model it was the deathblow after being annoyed by the newer OnePlus stuff. I had a Realme GT 2 Pro, and those ROMs are OKish, but having a Pixel somehow feels more like the real thing.
Regarding Xiaomi/MIUI ... why do people get a Pixel 7 and not a Mi 12 Pro, if they prefer some bloated kindergarten OS like MIUI? I had the first MIUI ROMs on my HTC desire back then, was an admin of 2 german MIUI forums, translating the ROM and what not, but as Xiaomi got bigger the overall concept of MIUI/Xiaomi went down the drain and I started to avoid Xiaomi. Sure, they got a lot of cool gadgets and stuff, but screw that company for so many reasons.
Just read today, that the first nightly of Lineage OS is available for Panther... maybe give that one a try before wishing for MIUI. If there would be a MIUI ROM for the newer Pixels, let's hope it would be based on the xiaomi.eu ROM.
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Good info but most probably, like myself, pixel choice for the hardware, bands and plethora of accessories.

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