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I just recently bought a Nexus One, coming from a G2. I just wanted to have a second phone and picked up the nexus. Upon restoring apps from my G2 to the Nexus I was immediately promoted that my memory was full. I currently have about 56MB free on my phone after using APP2SD. I haven't tried the Darktremor A2SD yet because the last pages of the thread are filled with people that seem to be having trouble with it. I just wanted to know how you control the memory issue? Do you partition your sdcard, ext. Or, do you just keep a watchful eye on the apps you have installed?
Thanks for your replies.
Edit: I'm dreading having to update the rom with a full wipe because of the all the work to get the apps back up. I'm on CM7 and want to try sense but I don't want to have to restore some apps, move them over, restore move and move them over.
Moving App2SD only move the apps to the sd card while all other parts associatd with the apps still reside internally such as data. Apps with widgets will not work from sd card (the widget part). DT a2sd work much better and also allow moing the dalvik to sd which can free up a huge amount ot space internally.
Also apps with widgets work just fine when install to the ext section of the sd card.
i use an older version of DT a2sd 2.7.5.2 ( i stayed away from the latest beta as there's too much reported problems). I have no problems what so ever.
Close to 90 users installed apps and over 100mb left.
Is there any fallout to using that?
SD card can't be read in Windows by card reader, when it's partitioned for A2SD. Only in Linux. So if you take the card out of your phone frequently, and don't have Linux - you might not like it. Also, you become more dependent on SD card - if it dies, more of your data dies. Otherwise it's the right thing to do, the only thing that can actually make N1 usable with good amount of apps.
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You wouldn't be able to read that partition either by plugging your phone into a Windows PC.
ddgarcia05 said:
I just recently bought a Nexus One, coming from a G2. I just wanted to have a second phone and picked up the nexus. Upon restoring apps from my G2 to the Nexus I was immediately promoted that my memory was full. I currently have about 56MB free on my phone after using APP2SD. I haven't tried the Darktremor A2SD yet because the last pages of the thread are filled with people that seem to be having trouble with it. I just wanted to know how you control the memory issue? Do you partition your sdcard, ext. Or, do you just keep a watchful eye on the apps you have installed?
Thanks for your replies.
Edit: I'm dreading having to update the rom with a full wipe because of the all the work to get the apps back up. I'm on CM7 and want to try sense but I don't want to have to restore some apps, move them over, restore move and move them over.
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This may help to a certain extent: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877793
I use the program websharing, would that still work? My guess is no.
your only real option is to use DT apps to SD. i too have been to lazy to try it out, but what i've read, its the only real solution. it will use the memory card as full on internal phone memory by tricking the OS. i'll get around to it soon...
booting sd card with latest stable 7 release.
Just turned on my nook in android mode and all my applications on sd card are not accessible.
I have rebooted numerous times and used recovery and still no apps. When I open settings, I can see the apps on the sd card tab but cannot move them back to phone or clear them.
Don't know what happen? Any solutions to get my sd card applications working again? My nook will boot up fine with sd card but lost all the sd card apps.
The sd card storage is strange. I have a 16bg and now says .89mb used and 1.0gb free. it used to say 13.? free.
Any Thoughts?
appreciate the help
similar problem
I just started a new thread a few minutes ago describing a similar problem. I lost the ability to browse apps after installing a couple of them from App Brain. I know the apps are there, but I have no way to browse and launch them.
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I'm not sure of the exact cause of your problem. But i had a similar issue recently on CM9. Changing to a different launcher fixed the basic problem, and then when i switched back to my preferred launcher, the sd card apps were still visible. Hopefully this will work for you too. I ended up switching to a different launcher permanently.
This can happen if you swap what cm7 views as the sdcard, from removable to emmc. Check your settings within Cyanogen/Applications. If use internal storage is checked, then the system is looking for your SD apps on the wrong SD.
Or you could have a corrupted card. I hope it is the first option. Hope this helps.
Looking at your memory fluctuations, I bet the above is right. That is the available memory amount for a nook out of the box without the customizable repartition zips. Which are awesome. At the moment, you have all your memory allocated to data, which is totally unnecessary, and a waste of perfectly usable forage. If you need directions to the directions (assuming this solves your problem, post and ask.
So I posted this question over and Android Forums, but no one has answered after 5 days. Hopefully I'll have better luck here.
What is the point of having an "on-board" sd card and an external card? I understand that -ext is your actual SD Card, but what is the /sdcard then and how is it different than regular "on-board storage"? What goes to either directory by default? This is the first Android phone I've had that does this, so I'm trying to familiarize myself with this.
I just bought a high quality 32GB SD card, so I'm a little disappointed that not everything is going to my SD card and instead to some onboard storage.
What are the benefits of putting things in either of these two?
I could be wrong but I think the internal memory is actually 12-16gb, but its partitioned with certain parts reserved for the operating system and apps.
I have noticed that transferring files from my computer to the internal storage is a bit faster than the external.
But then I do have a basic cheap 16gig SD card, so other cards might be faster.
I've not had any problem with the location of files, but then again I am a neat freak and I keep everything organized and know where everything is at all times
The reasoning comes from an operating system perspective. This is very much like a linux OS. Internal storage is different than ram. Android lives on seperate partitions as designed by google. Storage for the purposes of pictures, music, etc was left to be taken care of by sdcards. Since actual sdcards are more complicated than the average graduating flip phone user, manufacturers starting adding this "external" storage since it would be convenient for users like my mom. Then because geeks designed these, they still wanted to add more storage, so they designed storage you could actually get to! Hence sdcard-ext. Because many/most apps look for /sdcard as a file system, manufacturers could not skip it and just add more to the system partitions, or program installs would fail. They would either half to give a free memory card with purchase of the phone (carriers don't want to give anything away for free, and this is how it was 2+ years ago) or make storage on board that could be reachable.
In a windows point if view, think of it as all programs look for drive d: for extra storage rather than hogging c:, but since carriers didn't want to give away free d: drives, they said install it inside since it is cheaper on the board then to add a sdcard after. So, now /sdcard is like d: and /sdcard-ext would be like e:
I hope that made any kind of sense. It is honestly a useless mess, but sufficient for the unknowing or uncaring masses who just want to save more mp3's or pictures.
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My issue is spotify fills up the internal "sdcard" Id ideally like to point spotify to use my external sd card as its a 32 gb card. But that wont work.
Has anyone tried to create a symlink to point a folder to an external folder?
Is there a way to dictate what goes where? For example, if I wanted my apps to go to my actual SD card (/sd-ext), could I do it?
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Is there a way to dictate what goes where? For example, if I wanted my apps to go to my actual SD card (/sd-ext), could I do it?
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I'm pretty sure that without some mild hacking*, there wouldn't be a universal way to do it. If it's doable at all, it will be on an application-by-application basis.
Some apps seem to just "do the right thing". For instance, as soon as I installed and formatted my sdcard, the camera and gallery applications moved my pictures from /sdcard to /sdcard_ext, and from then on, that's where pictures are stored as they're taken.
OTOH, Amazon MP3 is pretty stupid about keeping all downloaded music on /sdcard. When I bricked my phone for about a month, that's one of the things that kept me from trying for a full replacement: I couldn't pull the files out of an internal filesystem, so I'd lose all that music. If I could have had those stored on a removable SDcard, it wouldn't have been a factor.
*example of mild hacking: move application-specific directories from /sdcard to /sdcard-ext and replace /sdcard directory with a softlink to /sdcard-ext equivalent. It's hacky and crocky, but I think it would work, as long as /sdcard-ext is available and has the appropriate directory (target of link).
hopefully one of you would know this answer...
i have the droid 4 as well and i have an aftermarket stereo in my car that has a USB connection. i can plug in my phone and it wont recognize any music until i turn on USB mass storage (obviously) but the problem i'm having is that (what i think is happening) the phone is pretty much mounting the internal sd card first for some dang reason and then the external sd card second. but i can't back out of the /sdcard folder to go into /sdcard-ext where all of my music is.
is there any way to change the mounting order? <--- that's my question.
My phone is rooted and currently running the latest CM9 ROM.
Thanks
-Andrew
Apps will always install on the internal sdcard, no way around this.
Spotify to external SD is simple. First, erase everything and logout. During the login screen press menu and you will be able to change the default location. Login and synch and you're done.
Disabling the internal mount;
etc/vold.fstab
put an "#" before the line "dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard:: 25 /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.1/mmc_host/mmc1"
This should disable mounting the internal drive. I haven't tested it though. It is possible the OS won't be able to see the internal mmc when it's not mounted.
It's also possible to swap internal with external. BUT... I've read mixed reports on an LG forum where users complained about problems with their phones. So be carefull if you want to test that out. Have to say though, apart from LG users I haven't read problems on other devices. Search for drive swap vold.fstab if you wanna try.
would it be possible to re-partition the phone's memory so that it's: system, internal, and sdcard, rather than having the sdcard and sdcard-ext seperate? I have a 16 gb micro sd card that I plan on keeping in my phone at all times that I plan to store general media on, but I'd like to keep all my apps on the internal storage. I know the process will probably cause me to lose all my data, but I've got nothing important on it. Also if this was the case would I also have to install a new version of android? Forgive me if I seem ignorant, I've only partitioned my hard disk via a bootable usb, so I'm a bit inexperienced.
Hello fellow Note 9'ers! I've got a 32gb card just sitting in a drawer doing nothing whatsoever and was wondering about installing it into my N9. A few Q's come to mind.
1. How does the card fit into the slot? It looked too big for a micro sd card.
2. Does having an sd card typically make the device work harder as it periodically scans the drive when being accessed and having files moved to and from it.
3. What do you tend to store upon the sd card? Pictures? Films? Music? Camera stores locally in the camera folder so it would be manual moves if using sd card as a backup.. I'm looking to understand people's usage to see if it's some method I'd follow.
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1. SD card vs. microSD card? The Note9 only takes microSD cards, and if you have one, it should go in just nice. It needs a bit of a push to "click" the card in the holder, and it goes in more easily in certain ways (which edge is inserted first, which way the card is pushed sideways a bit, etc.)
2. Typically just having the microSD card in does not affect the phone's performance in general, unless one has some anti-malware software that has been designed in a very stupid way. However, any access to that microSD card (when such access is needed) are somewhat slower than to the internal storage, but one typically does not even notice the difference. There are some use cases where it can be very noticeable, though.
Files are only moved in/out of it if/when one tells the phone to do so, it does not happen all the time or even "periodically". (Note, this phone apparently does not support installing the card as an extension of the internal storage; in that method there could be less control on what and when gets stored/moved on the card.)
3. The phone automatically switches at least some things to be stored on microSD card as soon as it is installed. E.g. the Samsung camera app automatically switches the target storage to the card instead of internal memory, so new photos/videos will go to the card. One can still adjust that setting manually. (Photos already on the internal storage are not automatically moved.) However, this behavior would be app-specific, i.e. whether one needs to manually change such setting or not, and if such is even possible in an app.
These phones have a built-in "file browser"-style app so moving almost any normal files between internal storage and card is possible, though one might need to know what he is doing, not just blindly move everything
The most typical things to be stored on the card are indeed the "media" files: photos, videos, music. One can move also some apps from internal storage to card, but this needs more consideration (i.e. card random access speed vs. how the app needs storage access). Also, Note 9 having so much internal storage space, moving the apps to the card is not as needed as with some other phones.
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1. SD card vs. microSD card? The Note9 only takes microSD cards, and if you have one, it should go in just nice. It needs a bit of a push to "click" the card in the holder, and it goes in more easily in certain ways (which edge is inserted first, which way the card is pushed sideways a bit, etc.)
2. Typically just having the microSD card in does not affect the phone's performance in general, unless one has some anti-malware software that has been designed in a very stupid way. However, any access to that microSD card (when such access is needed) are somewhat slower than to the internal storage, but one typically does not even notice the difference. There are some use cases where it can be very noticeable, though.
Files are only moved in/out of it if/when one tells the phone to do so, it does not happen all the time or even "periodically". (Note, this phone apparently does not support installing the card as an extension of the internal storage; in that method there could be less control on what and when gets stored/moved on the card.)
3. The phone automatically switches at least some things to be stored on microSD card as soon as it is installed. E.g. the Samsung camera app automatically switches the target storage to the card instead of internal memory, so new photos/videos will go to the card. One can still adjust that setting manually. (Photos already on the internal storage are not automatically moved.) However, this behavior would be app-specific, i.e. whether one needs to manually change such setting or not, and if such is even possible in an app.
These phones have a built-in "file browser"-style app so moving almost any normal files between internal storage and card is possible, though one might need to know what he is doing, not just blindly move everything [emoji14]
The most typical things to be stored on the card are indeed the "media" files: photos, videos, music. One can move also some apps from internal storage to card, but this needs more consideration (i.e. card random access speed vs. how the app needs storage access). Also, Note 9 having so much internal storage space, moving the apps to the card is not as needed as with some other phones.
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Thank you ever so much for your thorough and detailed response! XDA to the rescue!
I need to decide if it's actually needed. Whilst it could be a good backup area for pictures it is also more likely to corrupt.. decisions decisions!
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Better stick with internal storage or go cloud with Google drive.
What?! No smart alek responses and no idiots screaming about searching first??? Really... I was chastised about a hardcore question and this total ridiculous question is answered without ridicule? What a joke.
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What?! No smart alek responses and no idiots screaming about searching first??? Really... I was chastised about a hardcore question and this total ridiculous question is answered without ridicule? What a joke.
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screw u OJ.
OJsakila said:
What?! No smart alek responses and no idiots screaming about searching first??? Really... I was chastised about a hardcore question and this total ridiculous question is answered without ridicule? What a joke.
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Merely getting peoples own user experience regarding the use of an sd card on their own devices. [emoji851]
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I already set camera app to save photos and videos to external SD but, since I have many apps installed in my XZ1c, I'm running low on internal storage (I'm constantly struggling with about 30Gb used, 2Gb free).
Unfortunately, afaik, there is no way to move apps to external SD without rooting the phone and, although I've a good general background with computers, I'm a newbie in rooting / modding smartphones.
So I'd like to root the phone just to be able to move apps to SD with the minimum possible effort and risk.
What the way to go?
Do you have TWRP Recovery installed?
No at the moment I made nothing.
I was reading about TWRP (I didn't know about it, I told I am a newbie!) right now.
My problem is I'm afraid of any modification...
Best to keep the OS and apps on internal memory as it's faster than the SD card.
Use the SD card as a data drive.
30 gb is barely enough; minimum for me is 128 gb but more is always better. A micro SD card is a mandatory hardware requirement for me.
2 gb headroom is cutting it real close... looks like you're getting near upgrade time.
I would move to SD only unimportant apps, that I don't need being fast and reliable, keeping all relevant apps in internal memory.
The problem is there is not a phone around like the legendary XZ1c, so powerful and compact. Only comparable phone that I could find is Galaxy S10e (but considering the price it's not worth the upgrade)
However using an external SD for media, 32Gb of internal memory would be enough to me, IF ONLY I could save a handful of Gb by moving the unimportant apps to SD.
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I would move to SD only unimportant apps, that I don't need being fast and reliable, keeping all relevant apps in internal memory.
The problem is there is not a phone around like the legendary XZ1c, so powerful and compact. Only comparable phone that I could find is Galaxy S10e (but considering the price it's not worth the upgrade)
However using an external SD for media, 32Gb of internal memory would be enough to me, IF ONLY I could save a handful of Gb by moving the unimportant apps to SD.
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I hear you. The easiest solution is to just deep six those rarely used apps.
You can preserve them on the SD card for easy reload with ApkExport.
You can also set the main apps that are being actively used to use the SD card for their data storage.
Can someone please confirm Link2SD can move apps to SD card on a rooted XZ1 Compact?