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Hi there, I'd not noticed this before the Android 12 update, but refresh rate appears to drop from 120Hz to 60Hz when using Picture in Picture or Split Screen views. Can anyone else reproduce this please?
You can confirm this by going into developer mode and toggling to always display the refresh rate.
Try a factory reset if you haven't already and it was a OTA upgrade...
I'd rather see if others can reproduce this first - would have thought it's a simple enough thing to test and post your results here, thanks!
Hi SSJ100, I just tested this to confirm for you, it does drop to 60hz immediately and I cannot prompt it to 120hz until I return to full screen view
Further testing, if i have video running in the background, Amazon, netflix or YouTube it stays at 120 with windowed mode on
DS1000RR said:
Hi SSJ100, I just tested this to confirm for you, it does drop to 60hz immediately and I cannot prompt it to 120hz until I return to full screen view
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Thanks for checking! Again though, I'm quite amazed (okay, maybe not quite the word hehe) at how no one has reported this issue in this forum (and at least one other "major" forum). If they have, please excuse my ignorance and I'd appreciate a link to the thread.
I can also confirm that this issue persists even after updating to the so-called bug fixing patch "BUKG".
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Further testing, if i have video running in the background, Amazon, netflix or YouTube it stays at 120 with windowed mode on
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Interesting how bugs like this manifest sometimes huh hehe. I first noticed this issue with Google Maps when I was navigating with it and switching to another app (which automatically forces Google Maps app to become picture in picture mode). Scrolling looks quite different and jittery - it's amazing how one gets used to 120Hz!
Have you tried the tiles app developed by a user on here? It can force refresh rates very easily and just requires an adb permission.....there was a thread the other day
ssj100 said:
Scrolling looks quite different and jittery - it's amazing how one gets used to 120Hz!
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There is some black magic going on with these 120Hz panels. 60 Hz never seemed to be a problem before these high refresh rate displays started popping up. I remember smooth as butter 60Hz phones (both iphones and android). But now when i use a 120Hz panel at a 60Hz refresh rate, it feels like something inside the phone is in it's death throes, coughing and spluttering - the stutter is jarring! But if I use my wife's OnePlus 6 (which has a fixed 60Hz screen), it doesn't feel so bad. It's definitely not as smooth as 120Hz but the 60Hz on a 60Hz panel feels smoother than 60Hz on a 120Hz panel. Is it only me or has anyone else had a similar experience?
I have the same issue as well..so pissed..using latest BUKG
I'm on Android 11, One UI 3 still, and when my phone displays split screen apps the refresh rate drops from 120 down to 60.
This must be some battery saving feature, because If I toggle performance mode (processing speed) from the drop down quick menu, the fps shoots back up to 120 in split screen.
So an easy fix if you need 120 in split screen.
Gasman said:
I'm on Android 11, One UI 3 still, and when my phone displays split screen apps the refresh rate drops from 120 down to 60.
This must be some battery saving feature, because If I toggle performance mode (processing speed) from the drop down quick menu, the fps shoots back up to 120 in split screen.
So an easy fix if you need 120 in split screen.
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Yes, that seems to "fix" it for split screen. However, it doesn't resolve picture in picture fps drop to 60Hz.
Hmm must be an Android 12 thing. I'm sat here typing this with YouTube playing pip and the screen is holding 120fps even with my finger removed from the screen.
I did try Android 12 when the public version was released, but didn't like it, so downgraded back to the last version of 11, with a clean wipe.
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
Gasman said:
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
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If you're in low ambient light, screen at low brightness, panel will be locked at 120Hz even with adaptive selected. Move to bright area or increase screen brightness and check if you are able to get to 60Hz
Gasman said:
Hmm must be an Android 12 thing. I'm sat here typing this with YouTube playing pip and the screen is holding 120fps even with my finger removed from the screen.
I did try Android 12 when the public version was released, but didn't like it, so downgraded back to the last version of 11, with a clean wipe.
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Yes, I've only noticed this issue since Android 12 with the picture-in-picture scenario. Hopefully Samsung fixes this soon.
Gasman said:
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
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Nothing odd there - as previous poster mentioned, it's always behaved that way when the ambient lighting is low enough. And yes, has always been that way for AOD too. I never understood why 120Hz is required particularly for that!
I think that after android 12, my unlock animation is rendered at 60hz because it is sometimes sluggish. Did a full factory reset and i have the last update. Do you guys experience the same? other than that the phone is perfectly smooth
Still the same issue with BULC December update. Somewhat disappointing, as you'd think this should be quite an easy fix.
Still same issue after BULG update with PIP. As a previous person has noted, split-screen mode appears to be auto-throttled to 60Hz by default, and the only way to change this so it remains at 120Hz is by toggling "High" or "Maximum" "Processing speed".
Hello!
The LineageOS thread is getting very long at 12 pages now, I am looking to install it, but since this thread is so long, it is hard to track what is fixed and what is an issue. So please, if some of you with Lineage could reply with some of the current issues it would be very helpful for me and other people.
I will try my best to add them to a list below for other people looking to install Lineage This is what I have gathered so far.
No vibrations after screen/SIM unlock
Fingerprint scanner only works with screen on
Fingerprint scanner flashes the entire display at max brightness
Night light does not work
(Maybe) No data roaming
(Maybe) Bluetooth APTX codec does not work for calls
(Not a bug) Screen refresh rate can only be changed with adb
Quick update: I installed Lineage anyway lol. For me all haptic feedback works, so I barrwd it from the list. Some I could not test. Overall Lineage is sooo much smoother than the stock ROM, Asus removed so many little animations. Also I noticed the sometimes, screen kind of shifts colors rapidly, maybe this is related to auto brightness...
Edit2: its not the auto brightness so my next hypothesis is the refresh rate going to 60 and back to 120 when I touch the screen
Edit3: it seems to be switching between 120/60 to 90 for some reason? I tried manually switching refresh rates with adb and saw a very small difference between 60/120, but with 90Hz, the colors are all over the place, same happened on the stock rom too.
I don't really know how to explain or describe this problem I am having. But while I'm staring at my screen for example in the settings menu I can see the color or the background change from one color to another and it keeps going back and forward. I tried to get screen recordings and screenshots but it does not get captured during screen recordings even tho it's happening while recording. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Edit: I think it has something to do with the refresh rate going from 60 to 120. I noticed this because I have my refresh rate monitor on the status bar
Adaptive brightness?
adamlee2012 said:
This is happening to me with Reddit, while I'm scrolling it's fine but if I stop scrolling the screen colour temperature changes drastically. Since the June update.
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So I noticed it only happens when the refresh rate goes down to 48hz. I use Galaxy max Hz app to force 48hz when its just idling. When I set it to 60hz it's fine
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So I noticed it only happens when the refresh rate goes down to 48hz. I use Galaxy max Hz app to force 48hz when its just idling. When I set it to 60hz it's fine
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Yes, i remove the app because of this issue
adamlee2012 said:
This is happening to me with Reddit, while I'm scrolling it's fine but if I stop scrolling the screen colour temperature changes drastically. Since the June update.
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Reddit - me too
Hello friends
i have S21 ultra exynos version, when i turn on Spen option in setting the top off screen is start to flickring (Small white horizontal lines difficult to see easily with the eye but it is visible when i focusing vision) its like vibrations when we bring a metal object closer to an old TV screen.
when i turn off the spen setting the screen its become normal
so any one can confirm that for me its normal that i see this or not? tnx in advance
I think it needs degaussed
Not normal for Notes. May be a firmware glitch, try at different refresh rates.
Try a hard reboot and clear the system cache.
blackhawk said:
I think it needs degaussed
Not normal for Notes. May be a firmware glitch, try at different refresh rates.
Try a hard reboot and clear the system cache.
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hahaha tnk for your answer
i try what you writing :
1: i try 120 hrz and the screen become normal i try my spen and all is normal no flickring after 120 hz
2 : i try to back to 60 hz and the surprise is all is normal all thing is good
3 : i back to 120 hz and i try turn on and off (spen) in setting the screen is norml
4 : i try back to 60 hz and try to turn on and off (spen) the problem is back again but when i put the s pen in the screen the white line is disappear when I pick up the spen the problem is back again(just for 60 hz)
i dont know whats the probleme here my friend
znayver said:
hahaha tnk for your answer
i try what you writing :
1: i try 120 hrz and the screen become normal i try my spen and all is normal no flickring after 120 hz
2 : i try to back to 60 hz and the surprise is all is normal all thing is good
3 : i back to 120 hz and i try turn on and off (spen) in setting the screen is norml
4 : i try back to 60 hz and try to turn on and off (spen) the problem is back again but when i put the s pen in the screen the white line is disappear when I pick up the spen the problem is back again(just for 60 hz)
i dont know whats the probleme here my friend
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CRT's were fun. Got shocked more than once.
One time when I was replacing a huge one even though I had discharged it several times to no spark. Capacity memory is scary. Fortunately I didn't drop it, that could've ended up badly.
Sounds like firmware. The variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to calibrate. It's bad enough trying to color/gamma calibrate at fixed rate display through its brightness range. It's near impossible on variable refresh rate displays.
I would just ignore it unless it gets worse*. If under warranty maybe then otherwise the cure maybe worse than the disease. There maybe other work arounds or use the one you found or the easiest... just ignore it. If it's not a major issues don't go too nuts.
*It's possible the rom got corrupted (single event upset) or one of millions of the transistor or mosfet junctions failed in the mobo or display matrix. Every wonder what happens when one or two fail?
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CRT's were fun. Got shocked more than once.
One time when I was replacing a huge one even though I had discharged it several times to no spark. Capacity memory is scary. Fortunately I didn't drop it, that could've ended up badly.
Sounds like firmware. The variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to calibrate. It's bad enough trying to color/gamma calibrate at fixed rate display through its brightness range. It's near impossible on variable refresh rate displays.
I would just ignore it unless it gets worse*. If under warranty maybe then otherwise the cure maybe worse than the disease. There maybe other work arounds or use the one you found or the easiest... just ignore it. If it's not a major issues don't go too nuts.
*It's possible the rom got corrupted (single event upset) or one of millions of the transistor or mosfet junctions failed in the mobo or display matrix. Every wonder what happens when one or two faiso
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blackhawk said:
CRT's were fun. Got shocked more than once.
One time when I was replacing a huge one even though I had discharged it several times to no spark. Capacity memory is scary. Fortunately I didn't drop it, that could've ended up badly.
Sounds like firmware. The variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to calibrate. It's bad enough trying to color/gamma calibrate at fixed rate display through its brightness range. It's near impossible on variable refresh rate displays.
I would just ignore it unless it gets worse*. If under warranty maybe then otherwise the cure maybe worse than the disease. There maybe other work arounds or use the one you found or the easiest... just ignore it. If it's not a major issues don't go too nuts.
*It's possible the rom got corrupted (single event upset) or one of millions of the transistor or mosfet junctions failed in the mobo or display matrix. Every wonder what happens when one or two fail?
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no my friend i dont have warranty now..but the phone is in a good condition 99% i just bought it last 2 weeks i do a factory reset when i bought it iam at the latest firmware android 12 october security patch.
when i try your solution ..when iam at 120 no probleme at all condition all is good and normal see my old post.
when i switch from 120 to 60 no probleme but if i turn on and off (spen) the probleme is here..i cant describe the screen hhahaha its like when we get close to an old tv and your phone is near to tv and you receive a call the screen start to flickring with horizontal lines..but its not easy to see it you should focus a little bit in the screen
znayver said:
no my friend i dont have warranty now..but the phone is in a good condition 99% i just bought it last 2 weeks i do a factory reset when i bought it iam at the latest firmware android 12 october security patch.
when i try your solution ..when iam at 120 no probleme at all condition all is good and normal see my old post.
when i switch from 120 to 60 no probleme but if i turn on and off (spen) the probleme is here..i cant describe the screen hhahaha its like when we get close to an old tv and your phone is near to tv and you receive a call the screen start to flickring with horizontal lines..but its not easy to see it you should focus a little bit in the screen
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If you take a screen shot of it:
If it shows on the shot it's the firmware or mobo
If it doesn't show it's the display
Can you return it do a charge back on the card used to buy it?
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If you take a screen shot of it:
If it shows on the shot it's the firmware or mobo
If it doesn't show it's the display
Can you return it do a charge back on the card used to buy it?
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I take screenshot and screen recorder..its not shows...
yes i can change it but he dont have another s21U...iam just asked here to be sure its a display or fimware problem or just a probleme off 120hz and 60 hz and its normal to see it...if all people have this its not a good idea to change my S21U...bcz the problem not appear in 120hz and not appear at 60 hz in some conditions Just like I explained to you ..so i need a friend here to do a test in a same phone at white screen like notes application or messages and at this time i choose my decision to change it or not
znayver said:
I take screenshot and screen recorder..its not shows...
yes i can change it but he dont have another s21U...iam just asked here to be sure its a display or fimware problem or just a probleme off 120hz and 60 hz and its normal to see it...if all people have this its not a good idea to change my S21U...bcz the problem not appear in 120hz and not appear at 60 hz in some conditions Just like I explained to you ..so i need a friend here to do a test in a same phone at white screen like notes application or messages and at this time i choose my decision to change it or not
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It may be the display. The active matrix is packed to the gills with mosfet junctions.
Try some Google searches; it will likely show up on Samsung members forum if it's an issue.
Take an image of it and do a Google image search if possible.
blackhawk said:
It may be the display. The active matrix is packed to the gills with mosfet junctions.
Try some Google searches; it will likely show up on Samsung members forum if it's an issue.
Take an image of it and do a Google image search if possible.
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okeey my friend ill try and i post here any news..tnx a lot for your help
Pretty sure, my oneplus 10 pro is stuck at 120hz the whole time which drains A LOT of battery. BUT, isn't this phone meant to be LTPO 2.0 technology which has variable refresh rate as low as 1hz. I am so confused why it doesn't drop to 1hz. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP . I tried those stupid apps like smart hertz and they are useless, shouldn't the phone itself drop to 1hz, like bruh
regrestbuyingOP10pro said:
Pretty sure, my oneplus 10 pro is stuck at 120hz the whole time which drains A LOT of battery. BUT, isn't this phone meant to be LTPO 2.0 technology which has variable refresh rate as low as 1hz. I am so confused why it doesn't drop to 1hz. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP . I tried those stupid apps like smart hertz and they are useless, shouldn't the phone itself drop to 1hz, like bruh
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Hi, in the developper options settings you can toggle on a settings that show you the live framerate of the screen. You will see it drops at 1hz when nothing is happening on the screen. Warning : it drops only to 10hz when brightness is at middle, and stay at 120hz all time at mid brightness
Hope it helps you
Edit : i tried and mine is also stuck at 120hz or 60hz but never dropping below
It was working few months ago
Working fine here
Screen Recorder Doesn't Support 120fps Record
It's stuck on 120hz on my side on lower brightness levels.
On the Standard refresh rate setting, it's altering between 60hz & 30hz on lower brightness levels.
@regrestbuyingOP10pro are you in quad HD + ? If so try to go back at full HD +, then reboot
On my side variable refresh rate worked again after that, but as soon as I go for quad HD it brake it
Still great battery life with quad HD tho
Edit : tried it again and does not worked this time. I really dont know what's causing that, maybe with debloat I disabled an app nedded for that
Have you used the magisk module, because some time ago, because of some modules, the screen can only switch between 120 and 60hz
ues_t said:
Have you used the magisk module, because some time ago, because of some modules, the screen can only switch between 120 and 60hz
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Interesting, indeed I have some Magisk modules and Lsposed modules. I disabled them all but did not change... Still stuck at 120hz and dropping only to 60 and only when watching a vidéo or with keyboard openend, just as you described. I will restore some disabled system app to see if there is a link
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Interesting, indeed I have some Magisk modules and Lsposed modules. I disabled them all but did not change... Still stuck at 120hz and dropping only to 60 and only when watching a vidéo or with keyboard openend, just as you described. I will restore some disabled system app to see if there is a link
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You can try to remove root to determine the problem
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You can try to remove root to determine the problem
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So i removed root completely, i restored ALL the system apps that i disabled long time ago to debloat the phone, and removed some apps that can changes system settings such as Naptime, 3C toolbox, DarkQ
Rebooted a couple of times and this damn phone is still stuck at 120Hz
I will give up there, except if you have other ideas to test, but i'm too lazy to do a factory reset to see if a ****ter user app is causing this...
Someone have his phone that is dropping fine to 10hz or 1hz with OOS 13 C22, C25 or C26 ?
To know if it is not a system issue of these builds, please tell me
I have never rooted my phone. Refresh rate is working fine for me on C26
Did you try smartherz. Apk
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Did you try smartherz. Apk
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Yep, I can lock some app that were 60hz to 120hz like snapchat, and lock some apps to 60hz
But it don't fix my issue : if I stop scrolling to read something, my screen will never drop hz, and stay still at 120 or 60 depending on how I set it