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Hey all,
I haven't had any experience with the Nook, but I'm in the market for a simple tablet that has some apps for kids, as well as the ability for me to put movies on it. I can either buy an iPad which is more expensive but definitely does what I want, or I can get the Nook and hook that up in the car.
My son is almost 2 years old, and we take a lot of day trips so I want something to occupy his time while we're driving. Either he can watch a movie, or play games, or whatever... I'm open for ideas. I have two kids, so ultimately this will be needed for both kids; either to watch movies or play games, and I will probably mount it off of the headrest.
Thanks for any ideas folks, I'm open for anything, just want to know if I'm wasting my time looking at the Nook for my kids (when it's rooted) or if I should just save a few bucks more and get the iPad.
Thanks!
I'd say get the ipad even though I hate apple. I say get the ipad because of the many games found in the app store and the simplicity of playing on it out of the box. ITunes is relatively easy to use and to put music/movies on it. Even though you'll have to pay for them unless you find other methods. I say don't choose the nook because it is an e reader. Although xda has made the nook pretty much into a tablet, the ipad will out perform the nook in almost every way. Also the ipad 2 has cameras which your kids im sure would enjoy. The ipad is easier to use for younger kids or maybe just in general. Hope this helps
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My son just turned 4 and does fine playing Angry Birds or Monkey Kick Off and watching videos on the Nook while in his carseat. I know you said you were going to mount it on the headrest, but one thing to note is that the Ipad might be a little big if your 2-year old needs to balance it in his lap while playing touchscreen games or needs to pick it up to use the accelerometer. On the other hand, there are a couple great games on the Apple store that haven't made it to the Android Market (my son loves a certain monster truck game on his mom's Ipod) yet but I don't think this is a big drawback since there are already a lot of others to pick from and they'll eventually make their way over.
If I had to buy two that might end up gettting knocked around and dropped on the car floor, I'd definitely get a pair of Nooks.
2 year old ipad would be a bit big, get him a itouch instead
The only reason I would say no to the iPad is because for a two year old a 9 in screen might be to big. You might want to look for another tablet that is 7in but has a less restrictive OS. Archos Dell creative Samsung and others all have 7 in tablets
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iPad for ease of use.
Your wallet will thank you, if you get the Nook Color.
Your kid will thank you, if you get the iPad.
I would go with the iPad, unless your kid is into Android and tweaking things... xD
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I would not give a 2 year old a $200 or a $400 toy. I have nightmare visions of said kid smashing said toy.
Now that we have the Nook Color I recently went looking for educational apps for Android -- DAMN there are slim pickings!
And I wasn't even limiting myself to "tablet-ready" apps.
You'll really have to get the iPad (or iPad Touch as suggested above).
Unless... hmm, I wonder if ordinary Linux game / educational apps run in Android; a few of those are decent.
Another vote for iPad. The kids app selection is better, but here are two other reasons why:
- the kids apps for android tend to be free and ad driven, free is good but ads are bad because...
- the android market STILL does not require a password to purchase apps.
I cannot tell you the number of times my daughters have accidentally hit an ad in a game and then ended up buying the linked app while pressing buttons trying to get back to the game they were playing. Now with the added Google penalty of 15 minute refunds there is a huge possibility of getting screwed. One of my daughters bought LogMeIn for 29.99 and I couldnt get a refund!
Yes, you can root and use an ad blocking app and you can use yet another app to password protect the market app - it is still an issue to the point where I have to constantly check to make sure they are still in their game or book. The iPhone and iPad do not present this issue because they require a password to make purchases - novel idea.
i'd say IPAD... but thats kind of a pricey "toy" for a little toddler isnt it?
that said, the children's books in full color and voice narratives on nook app is really neat.
Both are somewhat delicate and I'd be concerned about letting a 2 year old hold either unsupervised. iPad is beautiful and intuitive though with a number of kid friendly apps. Again - I'm assuming an adult will be keeping an eye on things. This should be mom's or dad's ipad that the kid uses under supervision.
When my son was 2 years old his fingers were endlessly messy - saliva, food, dirt, etc. Get a screen protector.
I think this is too much for a 2 year old on their own - I doubt they will appreciate this over a lot of simpler toys or distractions. If I were to spend the money on a 2 year old - I'd put it in a college fund, or set aside for some activities to spend time together as a family. Playing with mom or dad's ipad occasionally makes more sense to me.
Restricting the use to a back seat video player might work - no touching.
Peter
2 is a bit young for a device like that. I did give mine a DSi when he was 2. It still works fine and he's 4 now.
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2 is a bit young for a device like that. I did give mine a DSi when he was 2. It still works fine and he's 4 now.
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Funny, i was thinking something like this as well. Frankly, for a 2 year old, neither device. A 2 year old will have no problem smashing either, and that even goes for when you think it might be safely mounted in a car mount.
I'd buy a kid that young a Leapster 2 instead of a touch device. All of the games are educational and my kids have loved playing it from ages 2.5 - 7. My 7 year old likes his Nintendo DS more now, for obvious reasons. The tablets aren't much use to someone who can't read. You have to show them and they have to memorize all the buttons to hit. I try and let my kid play games on my phone and the next thing I know he is launching apps all over the place.
The nook is a little bit more complicated to get around on than a typical tablet because of the setup, unless you put CM7 or Froyo on it. Just rooting the basic OS, while the most stable, is a little confusing to navigate, especially if you aren't using Soft Keys.
I'd probably recommend getting one of the Samsung touch devices if you want to stick with Android.
Also, you might base your decision on the number of apps available for you. There isn't much point in buying device A if all the apps you want only run on device B.
I have both an ipad and nook color. they both have their pros and cons.
the nook is cheaper and has a smaller screen. i find it great for carrying around with me either by hand or in my laptop bag. video playback is not 100% on any of the custom roms.
ipads are coming down in price. larger screen. not too convenient to carry around. video playback is 100%.
I would give my vote for the ipad, just because there's so much more educational stuff for it. I have both and the ipad is in an otterbox commuter case to help keep it from getting trashed by the little ones. I would be worried about the nook in any of the cases available right now.
I have a 1.5 year old niece. I've let her play with my NC before, but always, always, always supervised. Love that kid to death, but if she busted my Nook I would kill her. My other niece is 5. She plays with my Nook every once in a while basically unsupervised. I'm not worried about her throwing it or rubbing grimy fingers all over it like her younger sister might.
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Another vote for iPad. The kids app selection is better, but here are two other reasons why:
- the kids apps for android tend to be free and ad driven, free is good but ads are bad because...
- the android market STILL does not require a password to purchase apps.
I cannot tell you the number of times my daughters have accidentally hit an ad in a game and then ended up buying the linked app while pressing buttons trying to get back to the game they were playing. Now with the added Google penalty of 15 minute refunds there is a huge possibility of getting screwed. One of my daughters bought LogMeIn for 29.99 and I couldnt get a refund!
Yes, you can root and use an ad blocking app and you can use yet another app to password protect the market app - it is still an issue to the point where I have to constantly check to make sure they are still in their game or book. The iPhone and iPad do not present this issue because they require a password to make purchases - novel idea.
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Really, boingboingbilly? That's terrible. But if there are locking apps available, are you saying they don't really work?
It's like they permanently deployed Amazon One-Click buying?
I guess that's an argument against enabling the Market at all! Or using it with a very low balance disposable credit card number...
Another vote for a more age appropriate device like the Leapster 2. Or maybe just a DVD player. Something much sturdier than an iPad or a Nook.
Plus, if you are buying your 2 year old a $500 plus gadget what is he going to be demanding when he's 12?.
Yesterday I went to staples and played around with some 10" tablets, and also with one 7" tablet. I noticed when browsing the web it was clearer in the 10"...
My question is, many of you probably had either one of'em.
What is the pros and cons when it comes to screen size?
Ps: this is the first tablet I bought.
I have 7" kindle fire and the 10" xoom
xoom is clearly easier, because of the size.
it's like comparing samsung note net browsing vs nexus 7 net browsing.
bigger screen for browsing always wins.
the key is to find the median between portability and pleasurable viewing experience.
I've messed around with 10 inch tablets (ipad, xoom, etc) and found them to be too big for me. If I were to carry around something of that size, it would be a laptop.
I've been using my Nook Color with GB/ICS for over a year now. Found that the 7 inch size is perfect for me. Large enough screen where I don't have to hold it 6 inches from my face, but small enough that I don't feel it needs to dominate my attention.
I had an eee pad 10 inch and found it too heavy. i think 7 inch will provide a much better balance between weight, convenience and features.
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I have had both (Playbook, Iconia A100, Ipad 1 and 2). Each have their purposes. For web surfing, I do like the 10" better, the 7" is just a tad too small for my liking (and my wife).
For video, they all work for me. I prefer the 7" as it is less obvious when i'm playing a video while in the office working. Also easier for my 3yr old son to hold in the car on longer trips. On trips, the 7" pretty much becomes my son's and the iPad are for the wife and myself.
I had a 10" xoom. For browsing it was fine, but portability sucked. I barely ever wanted to lug that cow around.
Sold it for 220 (minus fees), so only had to pay about $86 for new N7
I vastly prefer 7" tablet, as it's more portable.
I sold my sony tablet S for 400+
Now waiting for NEXUS7
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I have an ipad and a a100 ( acer 7 inch) i love the a100 browsing is pretty good ( i like android better tan ipad for browsing) and its way better asn a ereader and gamer. the only place I see the 10 as better is for movies. my kids can share on the ipad doesn't work well with 7 incher.
I have a transformer prime and a galaxy tab 2 7" and for browsing the transformer prime defenetly looks much better and it's easier to browse, but now that the nexus 7 packs the same screen resolution as the tfp, I would say that I prefer 7 inches for web browsing because of portability.
For gaming its defenetly much better yo use a 7 inches.
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Thanks, hopefully we get it soon to play with it...
Regarding comparing those 7 and 10 inch tablets at Staples and clarity of web browsing. Keep in mind, all those 7 inch tablets were probably 1024x600 or less resolution. The Nexus 7 is 1280x800, same resolution is most 10 inch tablets. So I believe this 7 inch should be much better text clarity than those other 7 inch tablets.
I have an iPad 3 and for most uses, I much prefer the bigger screen. The only reason I got the nexus is because it's easier to throw in my pocket and use when I'm sitting at a restaurant waiting for a table, movie or whatever, and don't have to worry about storing my tablet after im done waiting. When I'm at a hotel, on a plane or sitting on my couch watching tv, I'm absolutely still going to be using my iPad, because the iPad is easy to throw in my backpack that I carryon.
I have the new iPad and will get a nexus 7 so I don't know which form factors works best for me.
raafaell said:
Yesterday I went to staples and played around with some 10" tablets, and also with one 7" tablet. I noticed when browsing the web it was clearer in the 10"...
My question is, many of you probably had either one of'em.
What is the pros and cons when it comes to screen size?
Ps: this is the first tablet I bought.
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Hello. So if you ask my wife I have purchased well to many tablets and tech products in general over the past year and a half. I didn't feel I needed a tablet (still probably dont) until the Motorola Xoom came out. A new Android on a tablet with Nexus like qualities and open to the wonderful Android dev community, I had to have it.
I owned that for almost a year and ended up purchasing the Transformer Prime in December. I kept both for awhile, but the Xoom had a horrible screen and it is the only tech product I have ever owned that actually gave me migraines so I sold it. Next, the new iPad was announced and by this time I really was not enjoying an Android tablet and it was really missing some great apps. Still, what brought me to dumping Android tablets fot the new iPad was the excellent high res retina display. Since launch I have really enjoyed the tablet. It is excellent and after owning the iPad I have to say I do see the need for a tablet now. What I am getting is not that I am here supporting the iPad as I prefer Android over iOS, but to tell you for the price and all if your going to get a 10" (actually it is just shy of 10") then the only tablet worth getting in my humble opinion is the new iPad or iPad 2. I dumped my Prime and Xoom and never looked back....Until, the announcement of the Nexus 7 (Ill be honest, the 7 was Google's worst kept secret and I knew I would get it no matter what especially if the price is right). I ordered mine and I am anxiosly awaiting it at my doorstep.
I ended up getting only the 8GB Nexus which I know I will struggle with, but for what I want in it I don't think that I will be upset and if I am I can always sell it and get the 16GB option. I bought my wife the Kindle Fire last christmas and she barely uses it so I use it for reading. The reason I bring this up is that this is the main reason (besides the dev community and amazing things we all know the devs will do with the 7) I ordered the 7" Nexus. It is the perfect form factor for reading and for what you get it is the best value on the market. I stayed with the 8GB because I know that I will be using main apps and browsing on my iPad and reading/hacking/tinkering on my Nexus 7. I also own a Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s which I use for almost the same purposes as the 4s has the better camera and is a better all around phone for calls and text. Plus, Siri is a great featue. Since JB I have found that I am using my Nexus more so than the iPhone as of late and I am thinking of selling the 4S in anticipation of the new iPhone.
So I hope this helps and like I said if you want a great tablet for things other than reading and the advantages of Android then there is no other tablet that is worth the money (again, this is only my opinion and is subjective) and that is the iPad. The Nexus 7 though will accomplish all those things plus runs JB (Project Butter is the single best improvement I feel that the Android team has done with Android since its inception) and is perfect for reading (the iPad is heavy and too big in my opinion). So as you can see in my opionion and with all that I have used the only two tablets (well, actually three as I would also suggest the iPad 2 if cost is a concern) to anyone asking for an opinion. Android just doesn't have the tablet applications and it doesn't have the great killer eco system that the iPad has. There is a huge reason that Google decided to sell a low cost 7" inbstead of going toe to toe with the iPad.
I hope this helps and please remember I speak as opinion not that my word is end all be all. Technology is subjective and there are other products out there and these are the only two I would suggest after a year and a half with OEMs version of an Android tablet.
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I had a 10" xoom. For browsing it was fine, but portability sucked. I barely ever wanted to lug that cow around.
Sold it for 220 (minus fees), so only had to pay about $86 for new N7
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same here man... sold mine for 250 and im not looking back
I had the OG iPad (a gift) for almost two years. I sold it a month or two after Asus announced the 370 7" tablet back in January.
The iPad was ok, but somewhat over rated imo. I did not like the weight. You can't hold it for very long without resting it on something. Also, it's not as portable as I wanted. Even now, three years later, I never see people walking around with their iPads.
I would have preferred an 8" tablet. 7" is just a bit too small for web browsing. I think 8" would work better, and still weigh a lot less than a 10". But there aren't really any 8" options out there. Not any I find acceptable anyway.
So I'm using the $ I got from selling my iPad to buy the Nexus 7. I've been without a tablet for over four months now, so I'm getting kind of anxious.
have an iPad 2 and up until I bricked my Transformer Prime last night =( those were my 2 tablets...now I gotta replace the Prime, so I'm ordering the Nexus 7 since I just found out it has OTG Mass Storage support via Stickmount (YAY for Chainfire) I was leaning towards the Nx 7 anyway since it is a nexus device OTG just clinched it.
I have had several tablets; right now in my backpack I have an iPad 2 that I got for $200 used. It's in almost perfect condition aside from a weird scratch on a corner of the screen that you can't see really anyway.
90% of the time I use my tablet it's for ereading and trust me, 7" is way better for that. I really liked my Nook Tablet but it was too limited in function at the time so I swapped it out for a Galaxy Tab 7+. That tablet was a perfect size and functionality, but unfortunately was laggy and the battery left a lot to be desired. So I have my iPad for now, but I am really looking forward to getting my N7 here because that 7" combined with light weight (which is a huge plus in and of itself) and solid, "buttery" performance is what I'm after. I'm going to give it some break-in time then sell my iPad to start saving for the new Nexus phone.
I've used both sizes. I had an Archos 70 Internet Tablet and a XOOM. 7" form factor is really awesome for a tablet which is used for reading/gaming/browsing. The thing that killed it for me completely was the 800x400 resolution, this is why i upgraded to the Xoom.
The resolution is really the only thing i didn't like - i love how much li htghter 7" tablets are than 10.1" tablets, it's a night and day comparison when you are casually lounging or reading in bed in terms of weight. My xoom has smacked me in the face over 100 times over the past year because i try to balance it on my chest in bed while reading and start falling asleep - not the best way to awake
I love that 10.1" offers a lot of screen space, i hate how heavy these things are. I could argue that the N7 needed to be 7.7" but with the high-res IPS screen, i don't think i'll have the same problem that i had with the Archos 7".
All the above being said, i'm excited for the N7 and really hope that the N10 will feature a high res display with high PPI.
So first, let me blanket apologize for the fact that I am most certainly a noob in this new Android world. After being forced to use an iPhone 4 for more than a year I finally got the money to buy a Moto X and discovered a lot has changed since the days of Ice Cream Sandwich. I have since rooted and flashed CM 10.2 to my Nook HD and my fathers Nook Tablet.
Getting to the point: the wacom bamboo line has intrigued me since my HP Tmt2 digitizer (a wacom device) works so well. What I /think/ I would like to do (but am fully open to alternative suggestions) is find a way to use some combination of 1 or 2 Android devices and a bamboo stylus or tablet that could either be synced to work together like 2 monitors or at least able to quickly share files, etc.
The goal is to be able to take natural notes using the bamboo tablet or stylus & android one one screen while viewing books/docs/web pages with the other. I'm going back to school for a grad degree soon and would love to have something other than the HP that got me through undergrad.
So to recap the devices I have readily available are:
~B&N Nook HD running CM 10.2 (planning on CM11 soon)
~B&N Nook Tablet running CM 10.2 (CM11 soon)
~Moto X on Republic Wireless (open to root if need)
~HP Touchsmart Tmt2 (prefer not to use as it is heavy)
~Wacom Stylus for Tm2 (tried looking it up but they don't seem to make replacements anymore and to be honest it is super glued and electrical taped within an inch of life)
I am willing (even wanting to) buy a wacom stylus or similar product. I am moderately diy- capable so if someone can point me towards a guide I can probably follow it.
Sorry if this isn't the right forum, but I'm hoping some of you creatives can help me out!
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I so did not "need" a $500 tablet. I have a desktop computer, an ultra book with pen capability and a Note 3. My access to all the Internet has to offer was not limited. And yet I walked into BestBuy of my own free will and handed them a pile of hard earned cash for this tablet. Why?
1) Tech lust. It was shiny and new and oh that screen. Face it, that screen isn't fighting fair.
2) I like viewing the Web in portrait. Why? I guess because I always had this fantasy of a future where I could sit and read an electronic newspaper. In portrait the Web feels like that. None of my other tech allowed me to do that like this 10.5 does.
3) Unboxing. Silly but I love the experience of Unboxing a new tech toy. I can see why people actually post videos of this on YouTube even though everyone knows how the story ends.
4) For me, this tablet is pure toy. I suppose I could do work on it but I doubt I will. I wanted a consumption device. I wanted eye candy. I wanted Netflix and YouTube in HD+.
5) I can sit back on my sofa with my cup of coffee and read on it like a book. Again the portrait thing.
6) I wanted clean clear deep black fonts with no fuzzies. I HATE fuzzy fonts. I guess because it blows my fantasies of the electronic newspaper.
5 years ago I almost died of cancer. As I lay in my hospital bed after hearing the bad news one of the things I thought of was how disappointed I was that I would not live to see the technology I had always imagined. Dumb right? Here I lay dying and I'm worried about never owning a Tab S. Lol, I'm ridiculous.
My next tech fantasy? Perfect robot girlfriend of course, but I think that one will take a while
So, is your new Tab S (boring name for the fulfillment of a long term dream) a toy or a tool or both?
I hear you, exactly same here. I just bought brand new 17" gaming laptop for over 2k, I have Note 3, I have iPad air, 2 weeks ago i bought Note Pro 12.2 just because it was on sale at Costco, but I had to have the new 8.4 S Watching ESPN games on this amoled screen is unbelievable... definitely a toy for me.
carlitos66 said:
I hear you, exactly same here. I just bought brand new 17" gaming laptop for over 2k, I have Note 3, I have iPad air, 2 weeks ago i bought Note Pro 12.2 just because it was on sale at Costco, but I had to have the new 8.4 S Watching ESPN games on this amoled screen is unbelievable... definitely a toy for me.
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Wow - you guys definitely got it it bad...lol
I browse the web and read in portrait mode always, even the 8.4" suffices nicely. Videos always in landscape and I'm liking this tablet for that as well.
Unboxing doesn't do anything for me to tell the truth, but a nice new shiny device with these specs and performance does and with the BB discounted deal it was a no brainer for me personally.
A definite toy for me personally as well by the way.
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I so did not "need" a $500 tablet.
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So, is your new Tab S (boring name for the fulfillment of a long term dream) a toy or a tool or both?
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Great question for a thread!
My answer: YES! (Because I'm THAT guy! )
I live out of a suitcase for days at a time, and having all my books and magazines, as well as a whole bunch of TV, movies and games all in one little slab really keeps me sane and grounded.
I carry a GS5, which is great for getting updates on things, but when I want to get serious about really enjoying what I'm reading or watching, there's no substitute for a nice tablet!
Oh, and I'm REALLY glad you beat the Big 'C'!!!
OP.. First of all glad to hear your alive and hopefully we'll after the scare 5 years ago. As I was reading your list before the cancer part I was going to say I wish I had the finances to buy this tablet as a toy. But reading that part I am glad you are enjoying this tablet on the couch with a cup of coffee.
I'm as tech crazy as you all. I am known at my local bestbuy as the rental guy. In the last 4 months I have 'rented' note 10.1 , tab pro 8.4, tab pro 10.1, note pro 12.2 iPad Air. I have not kept any of them. Have to love elite and their 45 day return policy.
I have not purchased the new tab s because I'm holding out for a new nexus refresh. The news today if the leaked 8.9 specs are epic while I think false considering the 5gb of ram. I'm typing on my iPad 3 which I still works and have a note 3.
I am now going to find a 2nd job to keep up with you all. .
Here's how bad it is. I actually find myself disappointed once I've caught up on all my emails, Web pages and blogs. I start looking for new apps to install or delete or maybe just start a silly thread like this one just to have SOMETHING to do on my shiny new toy.
Oh well, hey its fun. No more no less. I have to be responsible all day. I can fart around and waste a little time with my tablet if I want to.
I was just tired of carrying my heavy laptop to bed when I really wanted to relax and watch all my media content...with this thing its a no brainer and I do like that you can read in portrait mode. I'll be doing alot of that tonight
I'm sitting here with a dying RAZR M, dead GNex, old Nexus 7, and a Chromebook running elementary OS... I wish I could splurge!
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to the op wishing you good health always.
now im eagerly waiting for demo units of the tab s to arrive here, i just bought the gear fit and i think my wallet will cry a river if i buy a tablet for the first time then the note 4 in a few months :crying::crying::crying::crying:
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I'm as tech crazy as you all. I am known at my local bestbuy as the rental guy. In the last 4 months I have 'rented' note 10.1 , tab pro 8.4, tab pro 10.1, note pro 12.2 iPad Air. I have not kept any of them. Have to love elite and their 45 day return policy.
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I wish I had the balls to purchase, open, play, return. I would definitely get banned from Bestbuy.
I was curious on how many devices I have purchased so I made a list. It was actually shocking.
1) Kinpad - Chinese
2) Viewsonic
3) Wopad - Chinese
4) Asus TF100
5) Sansung 7Plus
6) Asus TF700
7) Nexus 7
8) Nexus 7 (2013)
9) HTC Sensation
10) HTC One X
11) Nexus 5
12) Samsung Note Pro 12.2
13) Samsung Tab S 8.4
14) Apple iPad 2
15) Minix x5
16) Minix x7
17) Generic TV stick 1
18) Generic TV stick 2
19) Generic TV stick 3
20) Roku
21) Asus TF200
Future
22) Samsung Note 4
23) RK3288 TV Box
24) Moto 360
All that over 3 years. But as my girlfriend says .... it keeps me out of the bars.......lol
But I think my last round of purchases (12.2 , Tab S and Note 4) should hold me for a while. I think the hardware and the OS has actually caught up with expectation. I can focus less on tweaking and just using the damn stuff.
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Its not about the balls. I'm an elite member So that is $3500 per year. They can't say a thing to me. Lol
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Its not about the balls. I'm an elite member So that is $3500 per year. They can't say a thing to me. Lol
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I'm an elite plus member at best buy as well and I've received those 90 return bans before simply because I returned so much stuff. Sadly most of it was because there was a defect in the product.
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Its not about the balls. I'm an elite member So that is $3500 per year. They can't say a thing to me. Lol
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I didn't know such a thing existed. Good to know,
A toy that will get a lot of use. I travel every week, flying mostly. I will use this tab for watching movies, e-books, and web browsing via gogo in-flight internet (I will find out ne week when I try and log in, hopefully it will recognize my device and give me my 1 year free subscription!) when on the road. This is my first 10+" tab. I came from using my Nexus 7 (2013) when traveling, but when I saw the screen and specs of this thing, I felt I needed to treat myself!
I have an addiction. I have the Tablet S 10.5 and 8.4. I just gave my Tab Pro 8.4 to the wife, and I still have the Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12.2. Probably going to be returning the two Notes.
I think I need an intervention.
05GT said:
I have an addiction. I have the Tablet S 10.5 and 8.4. I just gave my Tab Pro 8.4 to the wife, and I still have the Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12.2. Probably going to be returning the two Notes.
I think I need an intervention.
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I once dated a life coach. She would have told me that I sought out this new technology because I sensed inadequacy in other "real" parts of my life. I would have told her, "screw that, I just like it!". God she was annoying.
Haha. who doesn't love new gadgets?
05GT said:
Haha. who doesn't love new gadgets?
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My bank account. lol
mitchellvii said:
I'm an elite plus member at best buy as well and I've received those 90 return bans before simply because I returned so much stuff. Sadly most of it was because there was a defect in the product.
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They do not care what one spends and if they are an Elite member because there is a Fair Trade Act that Best Buy adheres to. One will get flagged sooner or later. Unfortunately defects in products nonwithstanding.
Hey Guys -
I've been using XDA for a few years now to mod my many other Android devices, but today; was talking to wife and she isn't happy with her Amazon Fire tablet as she says it's too slow and is sick of all the ads. It's a 7" 5th Generation running 5.6.0.1 and all I've done to it in the past is install Google Play on it.
What would be my best option / ROM to load which would basically turn it into a simple yet stable Android device? I looked at LineageOS & a couple of others in this forum, but unsure which is the most stable - and - if it's even possible to install any of them on a 5.6.0.1 device. I planned to test out a couple as I thought I had rooted when installing Google Play long ago so grabbed TWRP and installed FlashFire - but when launching FlashFire I was told it was not rooted.
What would you suggest be the way to go to achieve this goal? Thanks!
bzowk said:
Hey Guys -
I've been using XDA for a few years now to mod my many other Android devices, but today; was talking to wife and she isn't happy with her Amazon Fire tablet as she says it's too slow and is sick of all the ads. It's a 7" 5th Generation running 5.6.0.1 and all I've done to it in the past is install Google Play on it.
What would be my best option / ROM to load which would basically turn it into a simple yet stable Android device? I looked at LineageOS & a couple of others in this forum, but unsure which is the most stable - and - if it's even possible to install any of them on a 5.6.0.1 device. I planned to test out a couple as I thought I had rooted when installing Google Play long ago so grabbed TWRP and installed FlashFire - but when launching FlashFire I was told it was not rooted.
What would you suggest be the way to go to achieve this goal? Thanks!
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Unfortunately, allowing FireOS to update beyond 5.3.2.0 permanently removed the ability to root and/or install custom ROMs. It's FireOS in all it's glory from this point forward. There is a convoluted way to remove some of the Amazon bloat but you probably don't want to go there as it's not for the faint of heart. Most who travel that route have less than satisfactory outcomes. 5th/7th gen Fire 7 devices are getting long in the tooth and are decidedly underpowered for the tasks Amazon demands of it. Your better half is probably looking a new device if she is significantly dissatisfied.
Davey126 said:
Unfortunately, allowing FireOS to update beyond 5.3.2.0 permanently removed the ability to root and/or install custom ROMs. It's FireOS in all it's glory from this point forward. There is a convoluted way to remove some of the Amazon bloat but you probably don't want to go there as it's not for the faint of heart. Most who travel that route have less than satisfactory outcomes. 5th/7th gen Fire 7 devices are getting long in the tooth and are decidedly underpowered for the tasks Amazon demands of it. Your better half is probably looking a new device if she is significantly dissatisfied.
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Some folks over in the HD 8/10 forum seem to be making headway with achieving root, some of which might apply to the Fire 7.
However, I do have to agree the 5th gen Fire 7 I have is barely a functional tablet at this point with the stock ROM.
lakitu47 said:
Some folks over in the HD 8/10 forum seem to be making headway with achieving root, some of which might apply to the Fire 7.
However, I do have to agree the 5th gen Fire 7 I have is barely a functional tablet at this point with the stock ROM.
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HD 10 has a different underlying architecture utilizing different kernel and ROM components exposing new vulnerabilities that are being exploited. Amazon will undoubtedly close those as do all manufactures. In contrast HD 8 uses the same architecture as the Fire 7. Realizing root on that device is highly unlikely.
It will be interest to see what Amazon does with the next hardware refresh. Me thinks the Fire 7 will be gone with either an adjustment on the HD 8 price point or the addition of some other gizmo to fill the gap.
Davey126 said:
HD 10 has a different underlying architecture utilizing different kernel and ROM components exposing new vulnerabilities that are being exploited. Amazon will undoubtedly close those as do all manufactures. In contrast HD 8 uses the same architecture as the Fire 7. Realizing root on that device is highly unlikely.
It will be interest to see what Amazon does with the next hardware refresh. Me thinks the Fire 7 will be gone with either an adjustment on the HD 8 price point or the addition of some other gizmo to fill the gap.
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From what it looks like so far, it looks like the current progress for the Fire HD 8 is less so "root" and more like "uncovering hidden features we never knew we could use on Fire OS".
I do notice the Fire HD 8/HD 10 have gotten more of the spotlight recently. The Fire 7 (even the 2017 version) just isn't the $50 bargain it was two years ago. The HD 8 2017 has already dropped down to only $80 new.
Less people are buying the 7" tablet now, because it almost seems "too cheap". I do wonder what the Fire tablet lineup will be next year.
I bought the 7" recently and still consider it a pretty good bargain (I paid 40 Euros).
You could argue that the 8" it better value for money (I don't really know, but maybe) but for me the 7" form-factor is just perfect for a "everyday carry device".
The market for 7" tablet is not so big, you could get a Lenovo for about 80 Euro or a Samsung for about 120, that's about it if you want to avoid chinese no-names.
So it is by far the cheapest option and debloated and equipped with Google Playstore it is quite a nice device and I expect Amazon to drop the 7" line, so get it while you can...
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I bought the 7" recently and still consider it a pretty good bargain (I paid 40 Euros).
You could argue that the 8" it better value for money (I don't really know, but maybe) but for me the 7" form-factor is just perfect for a "everyday carry device".
The market for 7" tablet is not so big, you could get a Lenovo for about 80 Euro or a Samsung for about 120, that's about it if you want to avoid chinese no-names.
So it is by far the cheapest option and debloated and equipped with Google Playstore it is quite a nice device and I expect Amazon to drop the 7" line, so get it while you can...
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A gently used HDX is a far better device for similar coin. Far superior hardware and capable of running a dozen+ custom ROMs ranging from KitKat to Nougat (soon Oreo). I do enjoy my rooted 5th gen Fire for media streaming playback.