Question Option for oem unlock isnt in developer options.. - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

so....help?
I just got a samsung galaxy s21 ultra from freedom mobile in canada.
I was trying to familiarize myself with rooting and such again as its been years since ive been here.
But....the step after unlocking dev options i cant seem to find the oem unlocking. So...im not sure where to go from here...

Probably not permitted by the carrier then

is there a solution? i tried doing the date and time but it didnt work.

Nope, it's bootloader locked right out of the box.

so....how do i remove it....do i have to flash something else in.

check UNSAMLOCK thread

SynGreis said:
so....how do i remove it....do i have to flash something else in.
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You cannot unlock the bootloader/root a North American based Snapdragon S21U. It was only possible very early on with the factory bootloader from February 2021 (and even then you had to pay a person $100+ to get the keys). After the bootloader update, that's no longer possible either.

so i have to pay to have oem unlock? and if i read right this would cost 75-150 USD just to unlock.
im already disappointed with this phone.

SynGreis said:
so i have to pay to have oem unlock? and if i read right this would cost 75-150 USD just to unlock.
im already disappointed with this phone.
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you should be more disappointed with yourself as you didn't do your research prior to purchasing.

wasnt a purchase. was an upgrade from the carrier. paid 0$ but if i can trade it do you have recommendations on a phone with customizable options and performance? I just got it and the lady said i have until 2 weeks to return it for an exchange of another.
the s21 ultra was just the first phone they offered.

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Bootloader unlock allowed: No.

Hi everyone, first post, go easy on me
Anyway, I picked one of these up at the weekend and I'm very happy with it, but I'd like to try the new roms that are starting to appear. Unfortunately, I'm not able to unlock my bootloader (Bootloader unlock allowed: No). This is on Three UK.
Is there ever likely to be a workaround for this?
I'm gutted
I have the same thing on mine (T-mobile Croatia), I reckon it's a network carrier lock.
But if I have faith in something, then it's in XDA, the place where people turn "you can't do that" into "you can, it's just that no one found a way for it YET"
Let us be patient and see what will happen.
mine is the same
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Same here on O2 UK. I've just arranged sending the XZ back to O2, with this being one of the major factors that made me decide to wait for the S4. Shame.
JJ
stryker.jp said:
mine is the same
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
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That means one thing no fun with xperia z on xda-developers at least for now :crying:
GOOD LUCK
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Orange Poland.
I can't root my device
That's why I got my phone from a third party (CPW/P4U/etc) they nearly always supply generic handsets that are unlocked and bloat free.
maddoguk said:
That's why I got my phone from a third party (CPW/P4U/etc) they nearly always supply generic handsets that are unlocked and bloat free.
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Yup. Always purchase unlocked devices. NEVER count on a manufacturer's locking mechanisms being broken, nor on the lock mechanism returning somehow. (Qualcomm's secure boot infrastructure is quite strong, so it's rare for it to be compromised unless the OEM handset manufacturer screws up. Since the T's locking was never defeated, I wouldn't hold much hope for the Z.)
Vote with your wallet - don't buy a device unless it's unlocked. If you buy a locked-down device and rely on "unsupported" locking mechanisms, you are implicitly saying that you are OK with locked-down devices.
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AW: Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Branded and/or sim locked Sonys are usually not unlockable. This is documented well enough.
As Entropy said, either buy generic devices from the open market which come slim and neat to begin with or go with an operator which doesn't sim lock or brand devices sold by it.
I can recommend mine, sells devices subsidized if you wish yet still unlockable and the only branding to be found are a different SI than "generic", so I only suffer from delayed updates and nothing else
Entropy512 said:
Yup. Always purchase unlocked devices. NEVER count on a manufacturer's locking mechanisms being broken, nor on the lock mechanism returning somehow. (Qualcomm's secure boot infrastructure is quite strong, so it's rare for it to be compromised unless the OEM handset manufacturer screws up. Since the T's locking was never defeated, I wouldn't hold much hope for the Z.)
Vote with your wallet - don't buy a device unless it's unlocked. If you buy a locked-down device and rely on "unsupported" locking mechanisms, you are implicitly saying that you are OK with locked-down devices.
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I bought a outright supposedly unlocked Xperia TX for a Sony Central store in Sydney then only to find out it was actually vodafone stock with a locked bootloader.
Hi, can some one help me out here.
I have a XZ which has unlockable bootloader. I have unlocked it and rooted and installed recovery kernal and Xperia Z Revolution rom. All ok.
Now, was just seeing if I ever needed to send phone off for repairs.
So downloaded the lastest flashtool and was successful enough to restore back to the 10.1.A.1.350 Original Sony Unbranded UK Rom.
With flashtool you can now lock the bootloader, so I went ahead and did this but now when checking the bootloader status, it says "Rooting Status: Unknown" and when entering my unlock code in CMD "Failed <remote: Command did not succeed>
How do I fix this so I can unlock the bootloader again?
I don't think your locked. You probably are still unlocked as we cannot relock bootloader yet
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xl VipeR lx said:
I don't think your locked. You probably are still unlocked as we cannot relock bootloader yet
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Androxyde says we can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38912420&postcount=29
That's why I tried to lock bootloader after reading that.
morgan_82 said:
Androxyde says we can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38912420&postcount=29
That's why I tried to lock bootloader after reading that.
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Aaah. I misread your post. Have u tried unlocking through flashtool
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xl VipeR lx said:
Aaah. I misread your post. Have u tried unlocking through flashtool
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Yeah, get the same error as in cmd.
Contact the dev. They might know more
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Yes I will do, just need to get my post count over 10 before I can post in the development threads.
Don't want to bother people with PM's either.
Let me know how it goes. I was thinking of unlocking and relocking. Out of curiosity. Is your bravia engine working now that you relocked
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Hi all.
First of all let me explain myself, I am a noob but not a total idiot so I am where I am through rational consideration.
I have renewed my contract on three UK, which has just expired. The number one consideration for me is that I have full, unlimited access to the internet with tethering and the only option for this in the UK is on three, on the contract I was already on. Three have an excellent 3g network and are in the process of giving DC-HSPA access and will get LTE-4g before the end of the year. I am guaranteed to automatically get the higher speeds when they are available, still with unlimited tethering at no extra cost. No other tariff can give me all that in the UK. There are sim-only options but they are all short term and do not guarantee me the unlimited tethering I require into the future, and there is a good chance the cost of these tariffs will increase when 4g is rolled out. In short the only option was to renew my contract.
So, I have renewed my contract and got the XZ. The XZ was the only option really after seeing all the developers struggle with Samsung phones and with all the developer friendly support promised by Sony. Whatever I did with my contract I wanted the XZ and I love it.
I knew when I signed the contract that I was taking a gamble on the locked bootloader, but the best option for me was to renew my contract and if the bootloader is locked sell the phone and use the money to partially fund the buying of a bootloader unlockable XZ. I knew that I would probably have to do this and was ready for it when I got the contract. Anyway the bootloader is unlock:no, so I will be carrying out my plan and this XZ will get sold to fund the purchase of an XZ with unlockable bootloader. I am OK with all that and if I sell the XZ for even half it's current value I won't care and will have still made the most financially sensible choice. I will have to buy a phone off contract, but I will still have the tariff I want. If the phone I have had come with an unlockable bootloader I would have been a couple of hundred quid better off, but I had to have a phone on the contract anyway so whatever phone I got would have had to go to get an unlocked XZ. Even if there was a tariff which gave the same allowances I would have had to pay for the handset anyway, and it would have ended up costing more than it is anyway. There is no such tariff anyway and I have made the sensible choice and am happy.
Now on to my question. Obviously I am working up to selling this phone, and figure it will be easier to sell sim-unlocked. Fortunately I live in the UK and network providers are obliged to allow you to unlock your sim. On three I have to wait thirty days and then they will unlock the sim for me. I have decided that the thirty days older the phone is will be offset by it being unlocked and being easier to sell. I am not in a rush to flash roms yet so I get the phone for a while and sell it for the least effort, hopefully when CM is pretty well ready for the phone.
Anyway, all is well and good and I am content.
However there is one possibility I have only recently considered. I am aware that sim-unlocking is a completely different thing than having bootloader unlockable:yes. But I was curious to know if a byproduct of getting the Sim officially unlocked by Three would be a change to the bootloader unlocking status. I don't know enough about how all this works, and as I say, I understand there is a difference between getting the sim-unlocked and the bootloader thing. But might the bootloader lock be somehow dependant on the sim-unlock status. ????
I only ask this out of curiosity.
I will find out for myself soon enough as I will be getting the sim unlocked ready to sell anyway. It will save me a bit of money and a bit of hassle if the bootloader becomes unlockable and I won't have to part with a phone I have become attached to and know is a good one, it doesn't have any of the issues some people seem to be having with their XZ's.
Either way in a couple of weeks I will have an XZ with an unlockable bootloader as CM has become a must for me.

Australian Carrier OEM Unlock option?

I have an N950F that I got through Vodafone (Build#NMF26X.N950FXXU1AQI1, CSC: VAU/VAU/VAU). When I go into Developer Options, there is no setting for OEM Unlock. Not sure if it means that the phone isn't locked to Vodafone to start with or if I need that setting to flash TWRP and then Magisk? I know the bootloader is unlocked (Exynos model) but the OEM Unlock setting seems to be causing a lot of confusion, with some people having it and some not.
Does anyone with a N950F bought through an Australian carrier have the OEM Unlock option in Developer Options?
Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...
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Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...
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I have the same problem and when I called Samsung Australia asking to unlock OEM, they said they don't have any information and cant give any advice.
ultramag69 said:
Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...
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What CSC is your Note using? XSA? I don't think you'll brick your device, it'll just not work.
demang said:
I have the same problem and when I called Samsung Australia asking to unlock OEM, they said they don't have any information and cant give any advice.
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Well, either they have information and refuse to tell us (which is a pretty f**ked attitude towards customers who've paid for their flagship device) or they don't know a key piece of information about a device they sell at a premium.
I'm not sure which option is the most infuriating but both are totally unacceptable.
Torquemada288 said:
What CSC is your Note using? XSA? I don't think you'll brick your device, it'll just not work.
Well, either they have information and refuse to tell us (which is a pretty f**ked attitude towards customers who've paid for their flagship device) or they don't know a key piece of information about a device they sell at a premium.
I'm not sure which option is the most infuriating but both are totally unacceptable.
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Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....
ultramag69 said:
Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....
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what is your carrier provider?
demang said:
what is your carrier provider?
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I have an Unbranded unlocked phone.
I put a Telstra sim in it. I also have a Kogan sim (Vodafone network) I haven't tried as yet..
ultramag69 said:
I have an Unbranded unlocked phone.
I put a Telstra sim in it. I also have a Kogan sim (Vodafone network) I haven't tried as yet..
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I checked kogan and vodafon 5min call. I was counting on Telstra. Did you check telstra 5min call?
demang said:
I checked kogan and vodafon 5min call. I was counting on Telstra. Did you check telstra 5min call?
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Mate, I call the olds every other day-dad has cancer and just checking in- I'm generally on the phone for at least an hour...
I've had this phone for since Tuesday the 19th... I got it pretty much the day after the supplier got their stock....
ultramag69 said:
Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....
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Fortunately, since Samsung have made the OEM Unlock option such a pain for so many users, devs are working hard to make an app that will make this option visible to everyone. Guess we'll just have to wait until they figure it out. It's very early days for dev work on the Note 8 and using it without root isn't nearly as bad as it has been with previous phones. The need for root is still there for me, but not as urgent as it once was.
I also have unbranded bought from Samsung Australia it also don't have oem option, wth is wrong with Samsung. Is it becoming a new Apple?
I've re-checked in Developer Options and now the OEM Unlock option is there. One theory is that the visibility of this option is triggered by time, such as the official launch date or maybe some other measurement, like the amount of time since the device has been used (I booted up my Note 8 for the 1st time exactly a week ago). I suggest that you periodically check Developer Options as the OEM Unlock option may become visible without any user intervention.
Torquemada288 said:
I've re-checked in Developer Options and now the OEM Unlock option is there. One theory is that the visibility of this option is triggered by time, such as the official launch date or maybe some other measurement, like the amount of time since the device has been used (I booted up my Note 8 for the 1st time exactly a week ago). I suggest that you periodically check Developer Options as the OEM Unlock option may become visible without any user intervention.
Which network are you on? From where did you buy the phone? Can you please share soft info page screenshot?
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Superduper01 said:
Which network are you on? From where did you buy the phone? Can you please share soft info page screenshot?
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On the Vodafone network and bought through Vodafone.
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On the Vodafone network and bought through Vodafone.
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Lucky you, i bought from Samsung Australia and it is unbranded but still no oem unlock, i am on kogan which also uses Vodafone. Lets see if mine also get lock automatically
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I also have unbranded bought from Samsung Australia it also don't have oem option, wth is wrong with Samsung. Is it becoming a new Apple?
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I've bought from Samsung directly as well (XSA firmware). Currently on Optus.
The OEM unlock toggle didn't appear at first which irritated me, however with the software update last week all I had to do was disable and re enable developer options, and bingo. It's there.
tripleacs said:
I've bought from Samsung directly as well (XSA firmware). Currently on Optus.
The OEM unlock toggle didn't appear at first which irritated me, however with the software update last week all I had to do was disable and re enable developer options, and bingo. It's there.
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Yeah!! Oem unlock function appeared for me as well.....
Also got mine pre-order from Voda, currently running N950FXXU1AQI1/XAU (19/09/17). Arrived on the 19th, I guess we'll see tomorrow if OEM unlock magically appears in developer options.
I'm not holding my breath though, Samsung have clearly decided to put a 'lock' in place which disables OEM unlock & which also stops the CSC being changed which might otherwise enable OEM unlock on a phone which doesn't have it (most of them).
Looks like most of us are probably waiting until someone inevitably breaks the lock, which will happen sooner or later, just probably not as quickly as if it was the flagship model (I.E the SGS8) with more developers working on the device.
Edit - Nope. I have my doubts about the 'time device used' theory. There's some other factor involved here. It doesn't even seem to be firmware dependent; poster in another thread also running AQI1 has it, I don't.
I have a Telstra branded model I bought of my nephews girlfriend and I cannot get OEM Unlock on it, and it won't allow me to do Wifi-Calling unless it has a Telstra sim card in it.
I have no reception where I live so rely on wifi calling and the fact that flashing XSA or even an Optus firmware doesn't work as it defaults back to Telstra, I am in a bind.
The only way I can change the CSC is with root, but I cannot root the phone without OEM unlock, so its an expensive wifi only phablet at present.
I got the oem unlock option on my note 8 n950f. I bought it unlocked from Harvey Norman Vicroria. I purchased it on 22 september and got the option now. Attached is proof and version I have. Im also using an optus sim only plan.

Discussion: The Sprint OnePlus 7 Pro 5G Bootloader is Locked

UPDATE: The Bootloader can now be unlocked! For more information please refer to the link below.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/bootloader-unlock-sprint-oneplus-7-pro-t4042145?nocache=1 .
I just purchased the Sprint OnePlus 7 Pro 5g (Model#: GM1925 Firmware Version: 9.5.12.GM25CC). I absolutely love the phone to but there is one huge issue with it. Sprint has disabled the OEM Unlock setting in developer options making it impossible to unlock the Bootloader and root the device!
The reason I am starting this thread is
1) Warn perspective buyers that the Bootloader cannot currently be unlocked
2) See if the XDA community has any ideas on how to Unlock the Bootloader without enabling OEM unlock.
Update: 12/22/2019
I have recently seen some comments like this:
"If you have the device SIM unlocked, you are then eligible to request the token to bootloader unlock your device from OnePlus. This process takes about a week. You then flash the token and it will then allow you to enable OEM unlocking in Developer Options and then unlock the bootloader."
THIS IS 100% FALSE. Both myself and "Whoareyou" have tried this and it does not work. According to OnePlus, "the Sprint version of the OnePlus 7 Pro 5g doesn't support oem unlock". T-Mobile's bootloader unlock procedure will work on our device.
EDL mode -> download global partitions is my guess.
Edit: This is the T-Mobile Method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/how-to-convert-tmobile-op7-to-t3935947
rb1725 said:
I just purchased the Sprint OnePlus 7 Pro 5g (Model#: GM1925 Firmware Version: 9.5.12.GM25CC). I absolutely love the phone to but there is one huge issue with it. Sprint has disabled the OEM Unlock setting in developer options making it impossible to unlock the Bootloader and root the device!
The reason I am starting this thread is
1) Warn perspective buyers that the Bootloader cannot currently be unlocked
2) See if the XDA community has any ideas on how to Unlock the Bootloader without enabling OEM unlock.
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I was hoping to not have these issues with this phone on Sprint.
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Philosophy757 said:
I was hoping to not have these issues with this phone on Sprint.
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Yea, me too. They didn't do anything like this with the Essential PH-1 or Pixel 3 so I was pretty surprised when I saw that they disabled "OEM Unlocking".
I understand that Sprint has to protect themselves by sim locking leased devices to their network but this is ridiculous.
Good luck getting support from OnePlus on any issues regarding the 5G device. I have the UK 5G variant and support from OnePlus is non-existent! We have ONLY JUST got the camera improvements etc that the LTE version got............2 months ago. And we've spent the best part of 3 months on June's security patch until 2 days ago when OnePlus updated to August's patch. Support for the 5G variants fcuking sucks guys!
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I just purchased the Sprint OnePlus 7 Pro 5g (Model#: GM1925 Firmware Version: 9.5.12.GM25CC). I absolutely love the phone to but there is one huge issue with it. Sprint has disabled the OEM Unlock setting in developer options making it impossible to unlock the Bootloader and root the device!
The reason I am starting this thread is
1) Warn perspective buyers that the Bootloader cannot currently be unlocked
2) See if the XDA community has any ideas on how to Unlock the Bootloader without enabling OEM unlock.
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I’d like to know if the Sprint edition has the Local Update option in Settings -> System -> System updates. Maybe that can be of use to free your phone. Can you post a screenshot of the system updates screen?
It does not have that option and OEM Unlock is greyed out on Developer options.
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I was also unable to OEM unlock this phone. I tried via Fastboot as well.
Would the T-Mobile method prevent me from activating the SIM or using the phone on Sprint's network? Seems like it would be risky considering I don't have any backups of the firmware, since there are modem changes and whatnot Unless the factory reset retains root/TWRP? I just wanted to touch base with people on this before I attempt it.
Has anyone had any luck rooting this phone?
Perhaps a Dev would be willing to use an exploit to gain root to unblock the OEM unlock feature. Here is a link to a zero-day found not too long ago.
https://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-19-780/
I don't know how it's implemented...
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Perhaps a Dev would be willing to use an exploit to gain root to unblock the OEM unlock feature. Here is a link to a zero-day found not too long ago.
https://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-19-780/
I don't know how it's implemented...
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Thanks for the information and I appreciate the response.
Just for anyone who (is probably not) interested... I am returning the phone and ordering it directly from OnePlus. I'm going to switch my service to T-Mobile and take my phone there. OnePlus supports the modding community, but Sprint disabling any ability to mod is a bit frustrating to me. I'm tired of being tethered with CDMA too. So I'm going to go an easier route. Besides, I'm sure the extra RAM will be nicer than the 5G anyhow.
drunkpitbull said:
Thanks for the information and I appreciate the response.
Just for anyone who (is probably not) interested... I am returning the phone and ordering it directly from OnePlus. I'm going to switch my service to T-Mobile and take my phone there. OnePlus supports the modding community, but Sprint disabling any ability to mod is a bit frustrating to me. I'm tired of being tethered with CDMA too. So I'm going to go an easier route. Besides, I'm sure the extra RAM will be nicer than the 5G anyhow.
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Unfortunately, some people don't have that option. I'm sure a Dev here has the ability. This phone has an amazing Dev community.
jthein1989 said:
Unfortunately, some people don't have that option. I'm sure a Dev here has the ability. This phone has an amazing Dev community.
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Yeah, I'm keeping mine. I've been in this boat before with other phones that I have had from Sprint and XDA has always come through. Once the phone has a wider release I'm HOPING it will get a bit more support here. Hell, I'll be a guinea pig since I now have insurance on the phone.
Philosophy757 said:
Yeah, I'm keeping mine. I've been in this boat before with other phones that I have had from Sprint and XDA has always come through. Once the phone has a wider release I'm HOPING it will get a bit more support here. Hell, I'll be a guinea pig since I now have insurance on the phone.
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I've never been a fan of insurance for phones, but now that they offer screen replacement for $29, and this phone being damn near ALL screen, I went for it. And I may get around to testing the method I suggested earlier. I may have to do some stuff in Linux.
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I've never been a fan of insurance for phones, but now that they offer screen replacement for $29, and this phone being damn near ALL screen, I went for it. And I may get around to testing the method I suggested earlier. I may have to do some stuff in Linux.
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Keep us posted!!
Anyone tried a Sim unlock yet? That was the way around the 7 Pro and 6T on T-Mobile network. Once sim unlocked you could enable OEM unlock.
jthein1989 said:
EDL mode -> download global partitions is my guess.
Edit: This is the T-Mobile Method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/how-to-convert-tmobile-op7-to-t3935947
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IT is for pro, not for 5g, am I right?
I would love to know if anyone has had success unlocking the bootloader on Sprint? Or if one of our amazing devs is working on something for us. I have no issue donating for their time and work.
I'm on the same phone, it also includes a single sim tray so I just ordered a dual one to see if it works.
Did some testing of the 5G yesterday and the Sprint network is a joke.
Flipstr7 said:
I'm on the same phone, it also includes a single sim tray so I just ordered a dual one to see if it works.
Did some testing of the 5G yesterday and the Sprint network is a joke.
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What type of speeds were you getting? I know it's not as fast as Verizon 5G but should have better penetration.
I am a little hesitant to try flashing the other 5G OPS to my Phone. I don't have a backup device atm... Although, if I could get my hands on the Firehose for our device, I would have to option to backup and restore partitions. Or, if we could get our hands on the OPS for the Sprint OP7.

First Pixel Device

I'm swaying between this and the OnePlus 7T Pro.
Being a Pixel phone, am I free to unlock the bootloader and root it? If so, will Google Pay still work?
Thanks
You can do it , but it will break the gpay but there is workaround for that
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mushtafa said:
I'm swaying between this and the OnePlus 7T Pro.
Being a Pixel phone, am I free to unlock the bootloader and root it? If so, will Google Pay still work?
Thanks
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Yes
mushtafa said:
I'm swaying between this and the OnePlus 7T Pro.
Being a Pixel phone, am I free to unlock the bootloader and root it? If so, will Google Pay still work? Thanks
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Yours is a two part question. The second part is a definite yes. The first part depends on which phone you buy. You have to be careful that the phone you end up with can be bootloader unlocked. There are many vendors selling phones that are carrier unlocked but cannot be bootloader unlocked. They advertise them as "unlocked". If you are able to buy directly from the Google Store there will be no question that it will work anywhere in the world and the bootloader can be unlocked. If you get the correct one you will not be disappointed!
what @v12xke said.
if you buy from swappa make sure the bootloader is unlockable have them check if the OEM setting is active or grayed out in developer settings.
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Yours is a two part question. The second part is a definite yes. The first part depends on which phone you buy. You have to be careful that the phone you end up with can be bootloader unlocked. There are many vendors selling phones that are carrier unlocked but cannot be bootloader unlocked. They advertise them as "unlocked". If you are able to buy directly from the Google Store there will be no question that it will work anywhere in the world and the bootloader can be unlocked. If you get the correct one you will not be disappointed!
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Is there anyway of knowing before purchase? Will be from Vodafone UK
mushtafa said:
Is there anyway of knowing before purchase? Will be from Vodafone UK
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Should be fine, it's US carriers that commonly have the issue
Mackay53 said:
Should be fine, it's US carriers that commonly have the issue
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Said the guys using EE.... It was just a heads up to a guy new to the Google line.
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mushtafa said:
Is there anyway of knowing before purchase? Will be from Vodafone UK
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I'm U.S. based so cannot speak to buying a phone from a UK carrier. I know EE is locked for the first six months and then you have to get a code to unlock it. You could also just buy it direct from Google UK. If you need to finance, they probably have better terms and you will have better customer service and warranty experience? If they let you handle a phone, you can quickly enable developer options and check the "Allow OEM unlocking" setting. If it is grayed out or you cannot toggle it unlocked, then the phone cannot be unlocked as-is. Do a search for this developer option and you will quickly see how to access.
Thanks for that, I might look into buying it outright.
If I go for Vodafone, they allow returns within 14 days.
mushtafa said:
Thanks for that, I might look into buying it outright.
If I go for Vodafone, they allow returns within 14 days.
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Just order it through a website like buymobiles etc.
They'll normally just give you a Carrier unlocked one and include the SIM card
mushtafa said:
Thanks for that, I might look into buying it outright. If I go for Vodafone, they allow returns within 14 days.
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You don't have to buy it outright from Google, you can finance it through them as well. Here in the U.S. Google has a 15 day no questions asked return policy for a full refund (or exchange). Don't know how it works in the UK. Warning: Carrier unlocked is NOT the same as bootloader unlockable. No Pixel comes BL unlocked out of the box. There is a setting in Developer options that must be toggled on first to allow unlocking. Trouble is, this setting is only available on certain phones. You could easily buy a phone that will work on any carrier (carrier unlocked), but cannot be BL unlocked. Best of luck and let us know what you ended up with.
Is there anyway of knowing which phones are boot loader un-lockable? Or is it just a case of getting the device and looking in the settings?
Having the freedom of an un-lockable boot loader is one of the main reasons I want a Pixel.
I will probably have to go through Vodafone UK. They are offering me 20% off if I upgrade. No-one else can beat that at the moment.
Can get 'Unlimited Max with Entertainment' (Unlimited calls/texts/data and Spotify) for £48.80 or 'Red 20GB with Entertainment' (The same as before with only 20GB data) for £40.80
mushtafa said:
Is there anyway of knowing which phones are boot loader un-lockable? Or is it just a case of getting the device and looking in the settings?
Having the freedom of an un-lockable boot loader is one of the main reasons I want a Pixel.
I will probably have to go through Vodafone UK. They are offering me 20% off if I upgrade. No-one else can beat that at the moment.
Can get 'Unlimited Max with Entertainment' (Unlimited calls/texts/data and Spotify) for £48.80 or 'Red 20GB with Entertainment' (The same as before with only 20GB data) for £40.80
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Ask Vodafone before you sign up
Asked someone on chat, they only know about the SIM lock. I've ordered, will go and pick it up today and try it.
They've said I've got 14 day cooling off period which is completely free.
Can't wait to ditch this Huawei
Just to confirm, OEM unlock was greyed out in developer options until I updated the software. Now to unlock it and have a play

Root without unlocking bootloader?

I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
Deitybrother13 said:
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
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No root without unlocking the bootloader and the Verizon models cannot be unlocked.
Deitybrother13 said:
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
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How do you just "accidently" buy a Verizon locked phone?? Just like everybody else that bought a Verizon locked phone you'll never unlock the bootloader. Take it back if it's not doin it for you
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How do you just "accidently" buy a Verizon locked phone?? Just like everybody else that bought a Verizon locked phone you'll never unlock the bootloader. Take it back if it's not doin it for you
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I got it from best buy, and they activated it on verizon for me. It was supposed to be the unlocked model.
Deitybrother13 said:
I got it from best buy, and they activated it on verizon for me. It was supposed to be the unlocked model.
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"Unlocked" in most people's minds is carrier unlock. The subset that cares and knows about BL unlock is very small. Another good measuring stick is discounts. If there is a discount beyond what you can get at the Google store, it is likely a carrier specific device and will have the BL locked permanently.
l7777 said:
"Unlocked" in most people's minds is carrier unlock. The subset that cares and knows about BL unlock is very small. Another good measuring stick is discounts. If there is a discount beyond what you can get at the Google store, it is likely a carrier specific device and will have the BL locked permanently.
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This is really not directed towards you, I know for a fact you know all this. I don't even think the sales people at BB know what bl unlock means. And unlocked has nothing to do with the ability to bootloader unlock, I just can't believe that this is still an issue for some folks. As for carrier devices you are entirely correct, however, I do believe that the only carrier that will permanently lock the OEM switch is Verizon but I could be wrong on that one. Even TM will allow you to bl unlock once you pay off the device. Verizon will never ever allow it. So the previous poster, even though the rep activated it on Verizon, it's device specific. I bought my P5 directly from Google and immediately activated it on Verizon with a physical sim and an eSim also on VZW. My OEM switch is still active to bl unlock it.
One final point, which I've made before, even Google sells a Verizon P5 through the Google store. If you buy that one it will not allow you to bl unlock no matter what you do. So I'm assuming BB has the same kind of setup, if you buy the VZW device you are **** out of luck. I once got stuck with a VZW Pixel and couldn't activate the eSim due to some silly VZW policy. It took me a month of phone calls to get refunded so never again. And I don't even bl unlock my devices any longer, but I want the option. Hey, you never know. lol
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This is really not directed towards you, I know for a fact you know all this. I don't even think the sales people at BB know what bl unlock means. And unlocked has nothing to do with the ability to bootloader unlock, I just can't believe that this is still an issue for some folks. As for carrier devices you are entirely correct, however, I do believe that the only carrier that will permanently lock the OEM switch is Verizon but I could be wrong on that one. Even TM will allow you to bl unlock once you pay off the device. Verizon will never ever allow it. So the previous poster, even though the rep activated it on Verizon, it's device specific. I bought my P5 directly from Google and immediately activated it on Verizon with a physical sim and an eSim also on VZW. My OEM switch is still active to bl unlock it.
One final point, which I've made before, even Google sells a Verizon P5 through the Google store. If you buy that one it will not allow you to bl unlock no matter what you do. So I'm assuming BB has the same kind of setup, if you buy the VZW device you are **** out of luck. I once got stuck with a VZW Pixel and couldn't activate the eSim due to some silly VZW policy. It took me a month of phone calls to get refunded so never again. And I don't even bl unlock my devices any longer, but I want the option. Hey, you never know. lol
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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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Yeah, I know that. I never did understand the particulars of that but I'm sure it has something to do with money of some sort to someone. There was always too much fine print and conditions. I'm pretty much stuck on Pixel now so I'll only buy from Google and hope for some kind of discount. On the P5 I got $50 off for something or other. If I were to buy an iPhone I would go to an Apple store. But the other members of my family have all carrier branded devices because they don't give a darn about unlocked carrier or bl able.
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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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As far as I know, every Pixel device sold by Best Buy is Verizon branded. I don't remember where I learned that from, but get your phones from elsewhere.

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