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It's a wonderful, powerful and cheap phone.
So, everyone 'should' be buying it and there 'should' be masses of ROMS, like the OP2 etc, but I fear, it won't.
Take a look at the thread for the Lenovo ZUK Z1 - this is a great phone for the price. This should really have gone far, but didn't - why? Because there was no real international launch, not really. Whilst it did have an international ROM and ZUI, it floundered on international release. There are a few ROMS.
The Elephone E9000 - another great phone, but no real international release. No ROMs.
This phone, I fear, having no international release will mean developers will not buy it. No one will develop for it and it will simply fall into obscurity, a hidden treasure unfortunately.
I really hope I'm totally wrong.
You are wrong, just look at previous xiaomi phones.. I ordered mine yesterday and I really don't like miui so I wouldn't have ordered it if it wasn't because I know cm13 and all other roms will come.
See this and this, my friend
In my opinion the situation could be even better with this Mi5.
Im asking myself the same, for me, software availability is the most important thing for a smartphone. And i wont buy the mi 5 until i know for sure that there will be custom roms.
I may be wrong, but it seems a bit quit around the mi 5 to me.
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Im asking myself the same, for me, software availability is the most important thing for a smartphone. And i wont buy the mi 5 until i know for sure that there will be custom roms.
I may be wrong, but it seems a bit quit around the mi 5 to me.
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Well, a lot of people is waiting for avaibility/lower price (like me), so for the fact that is a bit quiet I think it's because are still early times.
The biggest issues with devices like these is that developer teams normally don't buy the device. This happens for many reasons. Oem not following the GPL being one of them. Also they tend to get mostly nexus devices or flagship. You really do get what you pay for. So paying a bit more for a better devices just makes sense.
I read some news what said there will be no EMUI 10.1 for the P20 Pro.
What the duck, is this for real?
no one know...i think no emui 10 for p20 pro....lol
10.0 has started coming out today for the p20 pro, it's been available in china but now seems to be going wider. 10.1 won't because the phone is reaching the end of its life cycle sadly
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10.0 has started coming out today for the p20 pro, it's been available in china but now seems to be going wider. 10.1 won't because the phone is reaching the end of its life cycle sadly
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But 10.1 is just a bit of optimization for 10, or am I wrong?
It should get 10.1, like every other phone.
I will not buy Huawei again, for sure. The phone's great, I really like the software, but updates are trash. Also, no bootloader unlock code.
What feature are you wanting from 10.1? This phone is 2 years old now, pretty much end of life for tech device. Not sure what people want from unlocking bootloader, there's pretty much zero development on this phone. Some crappy ROMs with broken stuff. You really not missing anything apart from ad blocking lol. Days of Rom dev are almost over unfortunately, buy an older phone if that's what you want.
"Not sure what people want from unlocking bootloader,"
Well, I could be able to revive one of my bricked devices. Complicated story, that is why this would be the only method.
"What feature are you wanting from 10.1?"
Everything new.
I wouldn't count on it. Android 11 is coming out next month and we still don't have EMUI 10 here in Australia.
Yep. It got confirmed that p20 pro will not get EMUI 10.1.
Emui 10 got delayed till June, and also we got removed from montly security updates.
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What feature are you wanting from 10.1? This phone is 2 years old now, pretty much end of life for tech device. Not sure what people want from unlocking bootloader, there's pretty much zero development on this phone. Some crappy ROMs with broken stuff. You really not missing anything apart from ad blocking lol. Days of Rom dev are almost over unfortunately, buy an older phone if that's what you want.
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While i agree with you that custom roms are dying, unfortunately you are completely wrong about the 2 year cycle of life.
All android manufacturers can push as many updates as Apple, but they refuse, because mob mentality. I paid a lot of cash for this phone only to be treated the same way as the P9 days : Delayed updates for x times, updates that got canceled because of unknown reasons and so on.
Huawei had the ability to come on top if they announced that phones from 2017 and up will get a lot of updates, since now they no longer have google services and they can easily use their OWN services to gain profit, just like Apple. They refuse to see it, they become stubborn, and me as a consumer will put my foot down and no longer buy phones from this brand, neither anything related to Huawei.
Great hardware, bad software.
I will have to waste 1k on an Iphone but at least i can be assured that i get a lot of support for more than those 2 years that android manufacturers provide.
Huawei, you deserve all you're getting. If you don't man up and stop with these PR stunts and "communism", the brand will die. Literally Xiaomi surpassed them!
I'm done with Huawei.
My next phone will be an OnePlus, Samsung or Xiaomi.
Huawei as a company became trash af.
I was in love with the brand since I got a Mate 10 lite - but what they're doing is nonsense bull****.
Great hardware, nice UI, but the attitude towards updates is seriously bad.
Without GMS and changes in their behavior, this company will get out from Europe maybe around 2025. At least their mobile section for sure.
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My next phone will be an OnePlus, Samsung or Xiaomi.
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If you don't plan to immediately switch to a custom ROM don't go with Xiaomi. They have terrible software, with hard-to-imagine amount of bloat and ad-ware. From my past experience they are even worse than Huawei in terms of updates.
If you live in any country that gets Exynos variants of Samsung phones - it's a waste of money. It's proven that they have far worse performance compared to the Snapdragon variants of the same model (at the same price). Don't know how fast Samsung rolls out updates now, but in the past they were very slow.
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If you don't plan to immediately switch to a custom ROM don't go with Xiaomi. They have terrible software, with hard-to-imagine amount of bloat and ad-ware. From my past experience they are even worse than Huawei in terms of updates.
If you leave in any country that gets Exynos variants of Samsung phones - it's a waste of money. It's proven that they have far worse performance compared to the Snapdragon variants of the same model (at the same price). Don't know how fast Samsung rolls out updates now, but in the past they were very slow.
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Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I live in Hungary, we get Samsung phones with Exynos.
Do you have any experience with OnePlus? I heard that they're the "iPhone" of android phones.
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Do you have any experience with OnePlus? I heard that they're the "iPhone" of android phones.
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I don't have experience with OnePlus yet, but I'm considering it as an option for my next device.
I can't really imagine what "They're the "iPhone" of Android phones." means.
OnePlus phones are pretty open and have some nice custom ROM options. They are not as expensive as other flagship devices (although getting closer every year). In the last models they had some green tint issues with the screen (some say minor and limited). Overall considered to have good hardware and software.
That's more or less what I know, you probably can get much more (and more reliable) information on the OnePlus forums.
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I don't have experience with OnePlus yet, but I'm considering it as an option for my next device.
I can't really imagine what "They're the "iPhone" of Android phones." means.
OnePlus phones are pretty open and have some nice custom ROM options. They are not as expensive as other flagship devices (although getting closer every year). In the last models they had some green tint issues with the screen (some say minor and limited). Overall considered to have good hardware and software.
That's more or less what I know, you probably can get much more (and more reliable) information on the OnePlus forums.
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I see. Thank you, have a nice day!
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I'm done with Huawei.
My next phone will be an OnePlus, Samsung or Xiaomi.
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LOL you think Samsung or Xiaomi cares about software updates? Any company that produces 10+ lines of devices dont care about keeping up with updates.. only selling....
You want consistent updates, go with Apple, Google or even OnePlus, as they openly support 3rd party roms...
I'd also not go with Samsung. They are very poor with regards to updates as well. Xiaomi is fast with updates actually, but there skin really is ****. Think.. original touchwiz ****.
Apple, Google or OnePlus are the only options for updates. Though, if 'Murica decides to ban all tech to China, then oneplus is also out.
Did you know more about it?
No, we only get 10.0, as it seems.
Just came. Poland, Orange.
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Just came. Poland, Orange.
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Mine still haven't arrived. Others?
Update is live in UK as well. Went live four days ago.
Hello here guys, I need some of your knowledge and those who have the S21 Ultra in their hands.
First thing I am a htc fan since 2010 with the htc .. After this I changed htc phone every 2 years until 2018.. My last samsung phone dates back to the samsung galaxy S I9000 model back to 2010 and I didn't like them, I didn't keep them for long. My actual phone is the last flagship is the HTC U12+ i liked this phone very much and still love it, it still works fine but it is getting a bit old. After this Unfortunately HTC is almost dead since the takeover by google, i only had one major updates from android since, and give us only android pie and security update July 2019 this is unacceptable for a flagship i have pay more than 1000 $ for it in 2018. I would ideally like to have a new phone with new technology this year. I wanted to wait to see the oneplus 9 pro but .. the 8 have so much problem and i have read on the forum, the update support is getting very bad like htc .. and google no longer make flagship... Not a lot of choice other than that .. and i never want an apple.
So I am looking for the S21 ultra but it is a tough decision for me! I need your experiences with this device and with samsung..
Are samsung phones is strong and durable?? I dropped my HTC several times with a case of course i always have a case on the phone and a screen protector and is never broken. One ui has become much more interesting i have see but i still need to make some debloat it with the root. I find that the fast charge is a little low for this phone, how long does it take you to charge it with a 25W? what more can you tell me about this? Also another thing that bothers me is the curved screen. I am really not convinced on this? but all the flagship are like that now. A Another problem for me is the root, I don't want a phone without root! I am in Canada, and I know that the galaxy variants canada, the bootloader is completely locked and still no possibility to unlock it on this i find samsung very stupid about this.. unless that has changed but it would surprise me I saw nothing of that.
So if I want the device I have to buy the global model ( i want snapdragon too ) ( china model i think ? )which is the SM-G9980, but as I have seen 5G will not be compatible in Canada with this model, can someone confirm that? for 5G and that this model the bootloader is unlockable please?? I don't care much for 5G either but I would prefer to have it compatible.. If i flash a canada firmware is will work or nothing will change ? and is even possible to change the firmware ? For several years now I have been buying my phones full price from some online stores that sell global devices in Canada and for a little less expensive too. I am with public mobile ( belong to Telus Canada ) i really like this company this will work for the 3G and 4G i have see right? not sure.
Thanks for reading me and your answers guys!
UP please ??
Max128 said:
Hello here guys, I need some of your knowledge and those who have the S21 Ultra in their hands.
First thing I am a htc fan since 2010 with the htc .. After this I changed htc phone every 2 years until 2018.. My last samsung phone dates back to the samsung galaxy S I9000 model back to 2010 and I didn't like them, I didn't keep them for long. My actual phone is the last flagship is the HTC U12+ i liked this phone very much and still love it, it still works fine but it is getting old. After this Unfortunately HTC is almost dead since the takeover by google, i only had one major updates from android since, i am stuck with android pie and security update July 2019 this is unacceptable for a flagship i have pay more than 1000 $ for it in 2018. I would ideally like to have a new phone with new technology this year. I wanted to wait to see the oneplus 9 pro but .. the 8 have so much problem and i have read on the forum, the update support is getting very bad like htc .. and google no longer make flagship... Not a lot of choice other than that .. and i never want an apple.
So I am looking for the S21 ultra but it is a tough decision for me! I need your experiences with this device and with samsung..
Are samsung phones is strong and durable?? I dropped my HTC several times with a case of course i always have a case on the phone and a screen protector and is never broken. One ui has become much more interesting i have see but i still need to make some debloat it with the root. I find that the fast charge is a little low for this phone, how long does it take you to charge it with a 25W? what more can you tell me about this? Also another thing that bothers me is the curved screen. I am really not convinced on this? but all the flagship are like that now. A Another problem for me is the root, I don't want a phone without root! I am in Canada, and I know that the galaxy variants canada, the bootloader is completely locked and still no possibility to unlock it on this i find samsung very stupid about this.. unless that has changed but it would surprise me I saw nothing of that.
So if I want the device I have to buy the global model ( i want snapdragon too ) ( china model i think ? )which is the SM-G9980, but as I have seen 5G will not be compatible in Canada with this model, can someone confirm that? for 5G and that this model the bootloader is unlockable please?? I don't care much for 5G either but I would prefer to have it compatible.. If i flash a canada firmware is will work or nothing will change ? and is even possible to change the firmware ? For several years now I have been buying my phones full price from some online stores that sell global devices in Canada and for a little less expensive too. I am with public mobile ( belong to Telus Canada ) i really like this company this will work for the 3G and 4G i have see right? not sure.
Thanks for reading me and your answers guys!
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The phone is not worth it!
This is a gadget geek forum many of us waste money on shiny toys. You have a very old phone by the standards of tech enthusiast, but you don't seem like you feel you're missing anything accept software support. If that's the only thing that really concerns you, I would say save $600 and get the Galaxy FE. It will outperform your current phone in everyway. It has a plastic back cover that feels like premium material but is durable. It's 5G. It has android 10. Its got better cameras. It has an SD Slot. I think the only thing you may miss is the headphone jack, and just about all phones are loosing that. So I would say unless you plan to change the way you utilize your phone. Save your money and go Mid Range feature rich, your not going to miss flag ship features you've never used and will never use more than a few times just to test it out anyway.
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The phone is not worth it!
This is a gadget geek forum many of us waste money on shiny toys. You have a very old phone by the standards of tech enthusiast, but you don't seem like you feel you're missing anything accept software support. If that's the only thing that really concerns you, I would say save $600 and get the Galaxy FE. It will outperform your current phone in everyway. It has a plastic back cover that feels like premium material but is durable. It's 5G. It has android 10. Its got better cameras. It has an SD Slot. I think the only thing you may miss is the headphone jack, and just about all phones are loosing that. So I would say unless you plan to change the way you utilize your phone. Save your money and go Mid Range feature rich, your not going to miss flag ship features you've never used and will never use more than a few times just to test it out anyway.
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I agree with you. Those flagships models are not worth the money the vendors are asking for. Sure they are really good like Samsung S21 Ultra which is my daily driver now, but typically you get all you need either with new midrange phones or 1-3 years old flagship models.
Hi, I pretty love the flagship but yeah I find it expensive this phone... Will see what I will do. In the meanwhile if someone have the information I want for the model is will be great!
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Hi, I pretty love the flagship but yeah I find it expensive this phone... Will see what I will do. In the meanwhile if someone have the information I want for the model is will be great!
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The Ultra has the least aggressive curve of all curved Galaxy models. The viewable area doesn't really cascade over the side like my s10+.
The phone takes maybe 100 minutes to charge but I haven't really done a controlled test. I'm just going off the avg time it says when I plug it in to my QC 3.0 charger.
US / Canadian Galaxy 21s will likely never get a real root. Root would most likely trip the security fuse if ever possible. So at that point you could no longer use NFC payments. I could be wrong on this since I haven't been rooted or unlocked since HTC M8 days.
As far as durability goes, this phone is made from the most durable Corning gorilla glass on the front and I think the back is one step down. The phone has a metal frame and the camera housing is integrated into the metal frame. So I'd say it as durable as a glass phone can be.
I can offer no insight on Chinese market phones and their radios compatibility. I'm not brave enough to spend $1000+ ordering a device on the net unseen, with no warranty, and questionable compatibility. I need my device to work out the box, root is not that important to me anymore.
@mc_365 So you have the phone with what I have understand? Well I know is since the s7 I think the us and Canada having a locked bootloader and I find it stupid from Samsung really. For the NFC payment , my last three phone having it I think and I am still not using it.. Still not really interested by this. Well the root for me is still pretty important , I am using it for some reasons...
Well my last two HTC devices I have buy the global version and everything work.. and the phone work great too, and warranty on this. Is for Samsung phones I am a bit lost.. for the global version ( because the bootloader is can be unlock and also global version phone is always less expensive I buy my phones full price) what is working in Canada and what not...
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@mc_365 So you have the phone with what I have understand? Well I know is since the s7 I think the us and Canada having a locked bootloader and I find it stupid from Samsung really. For the NFC payment , my last three phone having it I think and I am still not using it.. Still not really interested by this. Well the root for me is still pretty important , I am using it for some reasons...
Well my last two HTC devices I have buy the global version and everything work.. and the phone work great too, and warranty on this. Is for Samsung phones I am a bit lost.. for the global version ( because the bootloader is can be unlock and also global version phone is always less expensive I buy my phones full price) what is working in Canada and what not...
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Yes I own the Phone.
I bought the phone outright as I do most of the time.
The non US/CAD phones are unlockable because from my understanding the law requires it in Europe. In the US the I think the carriers are concerned with subsidized phones being hacked for use without paying the phone off. That in combination with the US credit card companies concerns about fraudulent payments from hacked devices. These 2 major industries (Telecom and Banking) force the manufactures to adhere to these demands. So US/CAD and EU being the 2 major regions with strong governing laws force companies to comply or not be allowed to sell direct to consumers. Samsung has decided to just make it easy and keep everything coming to the US and CAD locked down tight. Europe must have their phones unlockable and the Chinese probably have some rules, and that's why they have Snapdragon chips and the rest of Asia has Exynos. There's probably some back door built into the Chinese variant for the CCP to monitor or to enforce the firewall etc.
Global version is less expensive because it has Samsung's Exynos processor which was somewhat inferior to Qualcoms Snapdragon in the past. Also in my experience you only save on the Global models after the phone has been on the market for a while. When it is relatively new you pay a premium to get that device from an importer. And again you get no warranty or support.
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Yes I own the Phone.
I bought the phone outright as I do most of the time.
Global version is less expensive because it has Samsung's Exynos processor which was somewhat inferior to Qualcoms Snapdragon in the past. Also in my experience you only save on the Global models after the phone has been on the market for a while. When it is relatively new you pay a premium to get that device from an importer. And again you get no warranty or support.
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How do you like the phone?
Not exactly , the global version I am talking about is the SM-G9980 and is the Snapdragon model ( Hong Kong ) is unlockable. I have buy my last two phones at launch day and is 200-300$ less like the s21 ultra right now... And I have got a support and normally a warranty.
However, not very precise for the bands network here. I am looking for that is will be the same for all Samsung phone I guess.
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How do you like the phone?
Not exactly , the global version I am talking about is the SM-G9980 and is the Snapdragon model ( Hong Kong ) is unlockable. I have buy my last two phones at launch day and is 200-300$ less like the s21 ultra right now... And I have got a support and normally a warranty.
However, not very precise for the bands network here. I am looking for that is will be the same for all Samsung phone I guess.
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Well as far as I have ever know, Samsung does not offer any warranty or servicing on devices purchased outside the region it was intended to operate.
Maybe the specific vendor your buying through is willing to warranty the device. But according to everything I've read and every place I considered buying from its always been stated up front,"Intl version NO Warranty" and the Exynos versions were cheaper but the Chinese version were just as expensive and more in a lot of cases. I've also heard of people receiving the phone and the language be set to Chinese and they could not operate the phone, LOL.
If my S10+ had 5G or 120hz screen I would have stuck with it. S21 Ultra is a great phone but in reality overkill for me. But I got $700 worth of trade in credit 500 for the phone and 200 worth of new accessories. So for ~$750 tax included and my old phone, I got s21 Ultra 512GB, Buds Pro, Soft touch Silicon + Spen case, Soft touch Silicon case, Clear TPU case, Rugged Hard Shell case with Kickstand, and a tracker tag thingy.
the s21 ultra is FAST and smooth.
i going to keep it for a few years unless the newer phones are a lot better.
Max128 said:
Hello here guys, I need some of your knowledge and those who have the S21 Ultra in their hands.
First thing I am a htc fan since 2010 with the htc .. After this I changed htc phone every 2 years until 2018.. My last samsung phone dates back to the samsung galaxy S I9000 model back to 2010 and I didn't like them, I didn't keep them for long. My actual phone is the last flagship is the HTC U12+ i liked this phone very much and still love it, it still works fine but it is getting old. After this Unfortunately HTC is almost dead since the takeover by google, i only had one major updates from android since, i am stuck with android pie and security update July 2019 this is unacceptable for a flagship i have pay more than 1000 $ for it in 2018. I would ideally like to have a new phone with new technology this year. I wanted to wait to see the oneplus 9 pro but .. the 8 have so much problem and i have read on the forum, the update support is getting very bad like htc .. and google no longer make flagship... Not a lot of choice other than that .. and i never want an apple.
So I am looking for the S21 ultra but it is a tough decision for me! I need your experiences with this device and with samsung..
Are samsung phones is strong and durable?? I dropped my HTC several times with a case of course i always have a case on the phone and a screen protector and is never broken. One ui has become much more interesting i have see but i still need to make some debloat it with the root. I find that the fast charge is a little low for this phone, how long does it take you to charge it with a 25W? what more can you tell me about this? Also another thing that bothers me is the curved screen. I am really not convinced on this? but all the flagship are like that now. A Another problem for me is the root, I don't want a phone without root! I am in Canada, and I know that the galaxy variants canada, the bootloader is completely locked and still no possibility to unlock it on this i find samsung very stupid about this.. unless that has changed but it would surprise me I saw nothing of that.
So if I want the device I have to buy the global model ( i want snapdragon too ) ( china model i think ? )which is the SM-G9980, but as I have seen 5G will not be compatible in Canada with this model, can someone confirm that? for 5G and that this model the bootloader is unlockable please?? I don't care much for 5G either but I would prefer to have it compatible.. If i flash a canada firmware is will work or nothing will change ? and is even possible to change the firmware ? For several years now I have been buying my phones full price from some online stores that sell global devices in Canada and for a little less expensive too. I am with public mobile ( belong to Telus Canada ) i really like this company this will work for the 3G and 4G i have see right? not sure.
Thanks for reading me and your answers guys!
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I have the 988B/DS and I love it. I had a note 20 Ultra and I traded it for the s21 Ultra and I don't regret it.
Durability: Phone has Gorilla Glass Victus (latest one) on the screen and on the back as well, really premium look (love the phantom black color). I don't plan on dropping the phone to test it lol, but videos show quite a lot of durability in drops up to 10feet. I will get a case to protect it just in case.
Storage: I don't miss the SD card (havent used one in over 7 years). I have the 256GB model one (12GB ram) and with cloud storage I don't think i will ever get close to filling the phone.
Cameras: I love the cameras, but it does get a bit to get used to the different options and mastering it for pro photos. It really is something else.
Processor: i have the Exynos version and I can't find any lag or issues with it. no overheating (this seems to have been fixed with an update), no issues at all with the phone.
Battery Life: With the 25W charger, from 0 to 100 in about 100 minutes give or take. It does charge fast, keep in mind that the battery is 5,000 mah so I don't think it's bad charging time.
Honestly? It is worth it... Not sure if changing from HTC will mean a lot of getting used to, but it's a nice experience.
I don't think flashing firmware to other models will result in 5G band compatibility, you can enable other market dependent services, but I believe network bands are more of a hardware thing.
About rooting, I used to root all my samsung phones and play around (and brick some phones) along the way, but I don't know why, but tripping knox and messing up banking capabilities is not of my interest. I'm happy with the phone as is and don't intend on rooting (disappointing I know).
Hope these comments help a bit on your decision making process
Thanks for your answers! When I have buy my HTC phone global version I had always every languages even the French ( the French is my principal language ) but with what you are saying the global of Samsung do not have this, China language? Can you flash firmware of another country on it like Canada? I do not much how Odin works... Yeah I am still not sure about the network bands compatibility and if is a software things or hardware? I saw posts that said it was one or the others things... Not really specific!
Disappointing? Yeah? Haha! Well in your place i wouldn't stop myself if the device you can unlock it !l Also in the reviews I have see is take approximately 1h11so 70 minutes to charge completely the phone with a 25w charger , why a big time difference here?
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Thanks for your answers! When I have buy my HTC phone global version I had always every languages even the French ( the French is my principal language ) but with what you are saying the global of Samsung do not have this, China language? Can you flash firmware of another country on it like Canada? I do not much how Odin works... Yeah I am still not sure about the network bands compatibility and if is a software things or hardware? I saw posts that said it was one or the others things... Not really specific!
Disappointing? Yeah? Haha! Well in your place i wouldn't stop myself if the device you can unlock it !l Also in the reviews I have see is take approximately 1h11so 70 minutes to charge completely the phone with a 25w charger , why a big time difference here?
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I used to root all my samsung devices (I stopped in Note 8). About the battery charge time.. I haven't let it go to zero lowest I have gone is like 35% and then charge so my calculation was based on the time to charge from that point, so 70 minutes is NOT bad at all...
My version has French language as an option in intitial setup (it has a bunch of languages - pretty sure it covers all needs).
Also, reading further in the forum, 5G bands are more software related (enabled), so it seems flashing firmware will enable/disable bands.
There are many posts in the forum on how to flash different firmware or change CSC codes so youmight want to take a look there. Odin is pretty safe to use if you follow the instructions. I haven't used with recent samsung devices, so I'm not sure what considerations you need to take.
I love the phone, but then again, I do not get to deeply play with it (unlocking the bootloader, rooting, flashing) as I did with other devices but I'm ok with it (for now). Given it's a pretty new device, it's kinda hard to find stuff for it yet.
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Thanks for your answers! When I have buy my HTC phone global version I had always every languages even the French ( the French is my principal language ) but with what you are saying the global of Samsung do not have this, China language? Can you flash firmware of another country on it like Canada? I do not much how Odin works... Yeah I am still not sure about the network bands compatibility and if is a software things or hardware? I saw posts that said it was one or the others things... Not really specific!
Disappointing? Yeah? Haha! Well in your place i wouldn't stop myself if the device you can unlock it !l Also in the reviews I have see is take approximately 1h11so 70 minutes to charge completely the phone with a 25w charger , why a big time difference here?
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I think the time difference is because we are not testing the battery with stop watches we are just telling you what it says on the screen when we plug it in and giving you an ball park estimate. It always says a longer time to full charge but ends up being faster as the battery calibrates during the charge process. Its like when you down
load a large file from the net it first starts off saying 20 minutes but then only takes 5.
If they don't fix the camera, especially taking photos at night (Exynos2100 version), Do NOT buy this phone
@mc_365 I understand now what you are saying... Thanks!
@oae08 What is the problem exactly with the camera? I do not see that on the reviews , good to know if you have a problem! Do you know if is Snapdragon too ? Or only exynos
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My version has French language as an option in intitial setup (it has a bunch of languages - pretty sure it covers all needs).
Also, reading further in the forum, 5G bands are more software related (enabled), so it seems flashing firmware will enable/disable bands.
There are many posts in the forum on how to flash different firmware or change CSC codes so youmight want to take a look there. Odin is pretty safe to use if you follow the instructions. I haven't used with recent samsung devices, so I'm not sure what considerations you need to take.
I love the phone, but then again, I do not get to deeply play with it (unlocking the bootloader, rooting, flashing) as I did with other devices but I'm ok with it (for now). Given it's a pretty new device, it's kinda hard to find stuff for it yet.
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So your 988B/DS is the global version ( china and global is the same thing as a know ) on Exynos if I understand? And you have French on it and many others languages!
Do you have some links near for what you are talking? About the 5 bands and the software flash? No need for how to flash a firmware of CSC codes I know is easy to find this, but it is quite possible to do it, to flash the firmware of the country you want right? No problem on the device after this? Also you only need the bootloader unlocked for flashing a firmware on a another country I Guess ?
Well I know magisk is not working yet on the s21 but is will be soon.
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@mc_365 I understand now what you are saying... Thanks!
@oae08 What is the problem exactly with the camera? I do not see that on the reviews , good to know if you have a problem! Do you know if is Snapdragon too ? Or only exynos
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The camera is really disappointing. I have bought this phone for just over almost 1600$, which is above my budget actually) but I was really anticipating to buy a phone that has a monster camera that I can use to get decent photos point to click. However, this is not the case. The night time photos especially, are bad quality and there is too much flare. I have tried it in many different scenarios and cleaning the lenses in every possible way but still the flare is way over the acceptable. I even compared with iphone 11 photos taking the same photos back to back and the older iphone 11 results in much cleaner and better photos.
Please note that i HATE the iphone, but this is the truth unfortunately. So until samsung releases an update to fix this (if its even possible), the phone is not up to standard.
EDIT: I have the exynos version
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The camera is really disappointing. I have bought this phone for just over almost 1600$, which is above my budget actually) but I was really anticipating to buy a phone that has a monster camera that I can use to get decent photos point to click. However, this is not the case. The night time photos especially, are bad quality and there is too much flare. I have tried it in many different scenarios and cleaning the lenses in every possible way but still the flare is way over the acceptable. I even compared with iphone 11 photos taking the same photos back to back and the older iphone 11 results in much cleaner and better photos.
Please note that i HATE the iphone, but this is the truth unfortunately. So until samsung releases an update to fix this (if its even possible), the phone is not up to standard.
EDIT: I have the exynos version
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Odd, I have the Exynos version and haven't had any issues with the camera in the many modes even night mode and it's awesome. I don 't know if the latest software update had something to do with it, but when I bought the phone and turned it on it updated and the update said camera fixes, so that might have been the case.
I'm considering upgrading to a 10 Pro from my current 8 Pro but I'm curious if current 10 Pro owners would consider it worthwhile. I'm not having any huge issues with my phone but the back of the case is cracked pretty bad and I'm thinking about upgrading before I start to have problems.
I'm rooted but running the stock OS13 and would probably do the same on a new phone.
What's your opinion? Thanks in advance.
If your goal is just to root and run stock, then it'll be a great device for you in my honest opinion. It's really held back by a lack of true recovery tools, which has led to no true custom ROMs for the device anyways.
But the 10Pro can be rooted, unlocked, and updated just fine as long as you take the time to learn how to do it properly without flashing. It's been serving me this past year just fine, still working pretty much as brand new.
@Prant thanks for the reply. I would assume the update process would be similar, restore stock image in Magisk, update and then install Magisk again before rebooting but I could be wrong. I read that the MSM tool works for the 10 Pro now and I linked to the article below. I don't care about a custom rom as long as the stock rom doesn't get glitchy when rooted, which it hasn't so far, but a recovery tool adds a layer of comfort. Anyway, thanks again for your input.
MSM Download Tool for OnePlus 10 Pro: The Final Nail in the Coffin
In this guide, we will show you the steps to download the MSM Download Tool for OnePlus 10 Pro and then unbrick your device using this tool.
www.droidwin.com
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@Prant thanks for the reply. I would assume the update process would be similar, restore stock image in Magisk, update and then install Magisk again before rebooting but I could be wrong. I read that the MSM tool works for the 10 Pro now and I linked to the article below. I don't care about a custom rom as long as the stock rom doesn't get glitchy when rooted, which it hasn't so far, but a recovery tool adds a layer of comfort. Anyway, thanks again for your input.
MSM Download Tool for OnePlus 10 Pro: The Final Nail in the Coffin
In this guide, we will show you the steps to download the MSM Download Tool for OnePlus 10 Pro and then unbrick your device using this tool.
www.droidwin.com
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The MSM Tool for the 10 Pro requires an authorized OPPO account to be used and no bypass has been found yet (there is an entire thread about this on XDA).
DroidWin is just a copy paste website and should not be trusted.
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The MSM Tool for the 10 Pro requires an authorized OPPO account to be used and no bypass has been found yet (there is an entire thread about this on XDA).
DroidWin is just a copy paste website and should not be trusted.
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Good to know. Thanks again.
I notice no major difference from my OP8 pro to OP10 pro.
I upgraded because my OP8's battery wasn't lasting as long. And Im not going to "settle" for the OP11.
In the end I get the following benefits:
- slightly longer battery life
- updates will keep coming for a while
- Android auto works reliably in my car.
For the last one, ever since upgrading my OP8 to Android 12 and 13 it doesn't connect to my car reliably. OP10 with Android 13 works fine.
If money isn't an issue, it's probably worth it for updates. If it hurts to drop 700 or so, then stick to the OP8. It's still a great phone.
Oh.. in the US, the OP10 isn't dual sim. I used dual sim. This is a feature I lost.
The OnePlus 8 Pro is a great phone and unless you're having battery issues, I'd stick with it. Developer support and wireless charging are huge advantages.
I sold my 8 pro to my neighbour, I took a chance on OnePlus by not checking out the 10 pro beyond its specs...
Gone is the excellent macro camera, the photocrom camera, the superb XDA dev's and the plethora of mods for it.
It has the same ability to root, a great camera, zero development, very few mods besides the one I've brought myself like center clock..
I truly miss my 8 pro, it did everything I could ask. The 10 does have a better CPU/GPU and more battery but that really is the only upside.. in regards to the phone itself you'd be hard pushed to see a difference.
My advice is this:
If you've treated your 8 pro well, you've not overcharged it and you've not dropped it then I would retain it... If you've treated it like a piece of crap then I'd say get the pixel 7 pro...it's quite cheap now and has some great development going on...
It's a sad time for OnePlus users, however we can learn from it and I hope OnePlus (oppo) learns some valuable lessons from this, they'll lose a valuable fan base who's influence goes way beyond its 1% purchase scope compared to the average users of OnePlus devices.
Time will tell I guess, but right now I would say avoid the 10 pro and the 11, they are of the same Ilk
I changed my phone from the OP 7 and I don't see any noticeable difference in speed (apps launch in the same time), and the default camera takes blurry photos when there is little light (where in the OP7 this was not the case). I wouldn't change if I were you (I would consider OP11, where there is faster memory).
For sure not i have both devices!
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I changed my phone from the OP 7 and I don't see any noticeable difference in speed (apps launch in the same time), and the default camera takes blurry photos when there is little light (where in the OP7 this was not the case). I wouldn't change if I were you (I would consider OP11, where there is faster memory).
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If custom ROMs are something that's needed then I'd avoid the 11 as they won't be there... Hope im wrong but I doubt it.
See some people in this thread recommending the OP11, and I can honestly say that's a terrible choice from what I've seen. The 10Pro is the last one with some semblance of recovery, from what I've been watching over at the 11Pro forums... things are even worse over there.
They even have went as far as to block calling from outside China after 30 days of use outside their home country, if you didn't activate the device in China with a china sim first. With refusal to help customers, stating things like just activiate it in china.
With the lost features, i.e. no wireless charging, less speed over USB, worse radio for USA.. I do not think we as a community should be supporting this company at all going forward, this will definitely be my last OPlus phone but I will continue to use it until it stops.
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If your goal is just to root and run stock, then it'll be a great device for you in my honest opinion. It's really held back by a lack of true recovery tools, which has led to no true custom ROMs for the device anyways.
But the 10Pro can be rooted, unlocked, and updated just fine as long as you take the time to learn how to do it properly without flashing. It's been serving me this past year just fine, still working pretty much as brand new.
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@PieceKeepr I echo Prant's statement, it matches exactly my experience and sentiments. OP10 Pro has been the best OP phone I've used, going all the way back to the 3T.
Fast wireless charging
OnePlus lock screen gestures
alert slider
excellent screen
Most importantly, easily rootable.
Those are my top priorities in a phone, and no other brand has all of those.
Also:
I really enjoy the way the phone feels in the hand, especially with the carbon fiber case from OP.
Stereo speakers are great
Camera is good/sometimes great
Performance is great
Battery life is pretty good (hungry CPU, but large battery)
the new OS is not as bad as everyone complains about, IMHO. Much of the things I don't care for are Google's fault anyways.
I have both devices and I've put the 10 Pro up for sale.
You barely notice any difference, except that the OnePlus 10 Pro version of OxygenOS 13 is abominable.
I'm still hoping for official LineageOS support hopefully soon, but...
Well I would highly recommend not buying this rubbish of a phone.
OxygenOS 13 is now a buggy piece of chinese rom that tend to crash every now and then.
The cooling in this phone is non-existant - overheating very often resulting in prompt "Your phone is to hot, we had to shut down some servces".
You won't be able to use wireless android auto while wireless charing (too hot).
The list goes on and on.
After a year of struggle with this I will be selling it next month - what a relief.
OnePlus is dead for me and damn, I have OnePlus One, OnePlus 5 (the best phone ever existed) and OnePlus 8T, so I can say I experienced myself the fall of this brand.
What do you recommend, besides a OnePlus device for custom roms? I have been looking to buy a OP9P (for the MSM tool/roms) as an upgrade to my OP6, but with the overheating and bad battery life (888), its not looking good.
If the custom rom scene is dying, I don't mind getting a OP10Pro and doing what I can with de-bloating and rooting...
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What do you recommend, besides a OnePlus device for custom roms? I have been looking to buy a OP9P (for the MSM tool/roms) as an upgrade to my OP6, but with the overheating and bad battery life (888), its not looking good.
If the custom rom scene is dying, I don't mind getting a OP10Pro and doing what I can with de-bloating and rooting...
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The last golden OPlus seems to be the OPlus 8 Pro if you can find one of those. Full recovery tools available and a plethora of custom ROMs. Being only 3 years old it won't fall off for the next 4 or so years comfortably.
That being said, I've never had heating issues with the OPlus 10 as other people have said. The device is really good for running stock + root imo, the battery life has also been about the same since I bought the device. Still runs PS2 games like a champ on lunch breaks. One full charge a day, and it only takes like 25 minutes to charge to full. Perhaps user device care has a play in this thread just as much as the silicon lottery.
Google Pixel is probably the best otherwise, but I'd personally be super weary using their phones as the exploits coming out of research departments are insane.
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The last golden OPlus seems to be the OPlus 8 Pro if you can find one of those. Full recovery tools available and a plethora of custom ROMs. Being only 3 years old it won't fall off for the next 4 or so years comfortably.
Google Pixel is probably the best otherwise, but I'd personally be super weary using their phones as the exploits coming out of research departments are insane.
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Yeah, I've heard good things about the 8 Pro. I borrowed a Pixel 6a for a week, thought it would be the spiritual successor to my OP6. The vulnerabilities are definitely too much for a new device, so I gave it back.
Coming from the OnePlus One and then the 6T (what a phone!), I really had to get used to the 8 Pro's curved screen. I'm still not a huge fan of the screen, but otherwise I do love my 8 Pro! With LineageOS it's such a super clean and enjoyable experience!
I also shortly tried the OnePlus 3 and 3T, which I bought for my parents when I had the 6T, and I gifted my brother the 7T Pro later. Man, what a slick, gorgeous phone! The only slight screen curve is perfect!
I think I'll stay on the 8 Pro for a while then. Maybe Nothing releases a good phone in a couple years. Or maybe OnePlus somehow decide to return to their roots and release a really incredibly specced and priced phone someday again.
I am half tempted buying a mi 11 ultra but is it still relevant in 2023 ?
But my biggest concern is the dead wifi/Mobo since I already own a vanilla mi 11 that needed a board replacement
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I am half tempted buying a mi 11 ultra but is it still relevant in 2023 ?
But my biggest concern is the dead wifi/Mobo since I already own a vanilla mi 11 that needed a board replacement
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Very happy with mine.
Was tempted to upgrade to a Pixel 7 Pro or a Honor Magic 5 Pro (I care mostly about the camera) but honestly it's very hard to justify. Pictures remain best in class even vs the latest phones, the phone is really fast, screens good. It's really hard for me so far to get tempted by a new phone. And I do want to get tempted... Maybe will need a Mi 13 Ultra or a Pixel 8 to get me to upgrade (I tend to trust DXO and they haven't ranked the Mi 13 Pro very well. Seems the 11 Ultra still does a better job overall when it goes down to the camera)
So yeah if you find a good deal on one you won't be disappointed.
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Very happy with mine.
Was tempted to upgrade to a Pixel 7 Pro or a Honor Magic 5 Pro (I care mostly about the camera) but honestly it's very hard to justify. Pictures remain best in class even vs the latest phones, the phone is really fast, screens good. It's really hard for me so far to get tempted by a new phone. And I do want to get tempted... Maybe will need a Mi 13 Ultra or a Pixel 8 to get me to upgrade (I tend to trust DXO and they haven't ranked the Mi 13 Pro very well. Seems the 11 Ultra still does a better job overall when it goes down to the camera)
So yeah if you find a good deal on one you won't be disappointed.
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Thank you for the reply that's why I am tempted to buy it especially since it's cheaper now than most snapdragon 8 gen 2 flagships with basically same specs but as I said my biggest concern is the phone dying within few months as many reported " summer can reach 45° in my area"
iBURGER said:
Thank you for the reply that's why I am tempted to buy it especially since it's cheaper now than most snapdragon 8 gen 2 flagships with basically same specs but as I said my biggest concern is the phone dying within few months as many reported " summer can reach 45° in my area"
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I live in Hong Kong, which is pretty hot in summer, and never really had heat related issues (That being, said I don't play games, so I don't hit much on the processor)
For sure if you buy it, you shouldn't pay more than half of a curent flagship price (The phone is 2 generations behind, it should really be cheap)
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I live in Hong Kong, which is pretty hot in summer, and never really had heat related issues (That being, said I don't play games, so I don't hit much on the processor)
For sure if you buy it, you shouldn't pay more than half of a curent flagship price (The phone is 2 generations behind, it should really be cheap)
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I can back you on this, I'm also in Hong Kong, Mi 11 Ultra with Global rom MIUI 13 for dinner time already, and i do game, Honkai Impact 3rd, Genshin Impact, Nikke. No heat problem and wifi issues. Great phone, especially at the current price point. Something to stand out from the all look the same phone lines out there.
I agree with all the feedback shared above. It is still a beast of a phone and runs multiple application parallely without any lag. Camera is great. If you are a AOSP fan, you have couple of good ROMs as well - PE+ and Project 404 roms.
Knock yourself out with a Mi 11 Ultra
I bought an used Mi 11 Ultra for 500 Euro a week ago and i rly like it ! I couldnt find a phone that i like more than this despite it being a 2 years old model.
It was with China ROM and 2 days ago i installed EliteRom free version (had to wait 1 week for bootloader to be unlocked). So far great experience.
I am planning to try some magisk modules i found here on the forum for underclocking for better battery life.
Hi guys can you give us info about battery performance with latest updates? Or comparisons with other phone you been using. Thanks
After a long time I try a Xiaomi device. As you can see on my posts or at my signature I use to own tons of devices. Pixels , Samsung's , and iPhones every year almost all of their flagships. Anyway I love the mi 11 ultra when released but it was way too expensive for a Chinese phone. I found one one month ago for around 300€ 256/12 white ceramic (CN version ) and give it a go . Phone is extremely snappy fast and reliable ( with Xiaomi eu Rom ) after few modification if I can say it with elite Rom and a few magisk modules like snapdragon 888 power efficient etc phone is great. Very good battery life I get easily around 7H sot with daily use ( no gaming but I use all social apps more than 7apps) phone never overheat like stock and I can say this is the fastest charging phone ever use. I can easily recommend this for a daily device in 2023. Special it the person who gonna buy it knows how to unlock bootloader and debloat this plus all the mods I mention above. Camera is also top notch that's why its still on top 15 phones of dxo ..I hope this helps cya
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After a long time I try a Xiaomi device. As you can see on my posts or at my signature I use to own tons of devices. Pixels , Samsung's , and iPhones every year almost all of their flagships. Anyway I love the mi 11 ultra when released but it was way too expensive for a Chinese phone. I found one one month ago for around 300€ 256/12 white ceramic (CN version ) and give it a go . Phone is extremely snappy fast and reliable ( with Xiaomi eu Rom ) after few modification if I can say it with elite Rom and a few magisk modules like snapdragon 888 power efficient etc phone is great. Very good battery life I get easily around 7H sot with daily use ( no gaming but I use all social apps more than 7apps) phone never overheat like stock and I can say this is the fastest charging phone ever use. I can easily recommend this for a daily device in 2023. Special it the person who gonna buy it knows how to unlock bootloader and debloat this plus all the mods I mention above. Camera is also top notch that's why its still on top 15 phones of dxo ..I hope this helps cya
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Could you mention any of the settings or steps you've done on that phone. I don't remember having a rooted cell phone. And I would like this equipment to last me several years, in addition to a screen duration of more than 4.5 hours that it is giving me
Thanks
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Could you mention any of the settings or steps you've done on that phone. I don't remember having a rooted cell phone. And I would like this equipment to last me several years, in addition to a screen duration of more than 4.5 hours that it is giving me
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Well there is plenty of videos out there how to unlock and root a Xiaomi in 2023. After that it's easy to flash twrp and any Rom u want.. I prefer elite Rom cause it's miui based and give some extra options like 60/90/120 hz.. u can easily put the phone to FHD+ AND 90hz and get even more juice. Out of this battery. Feel free to ask anything u want .
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Well there is plenty of videos out there how to unlock and root a Xiaomi in 2023. After that it's easy to flash twrp and any Rom u want.. I prefer elite Rom cause it's miui based and give some extra options like 60/90/120 hz.. u can easily put the phone to FHD+ AND 90hz and get even more juice. Out of this battery. Feel free to ask anything u want .
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Well, I will follow the steps to root.
A question regarding that ROM, or the AOSP. Is it true that the MIUI camera doesn't work?
And yes, what I look for the most is battery performance
I don't try aosp but on this Rom miui camera is working great. . Follow the magisk modules as well I post on another thread I see u saw it .