I've had a Galaxy Tab S7+ with the official keyboard cover, and now a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra with it's new keyboar cover. The new tablet and keyboard cover are great, but like the old one, it suffers some critical flaws that make it difficult to use in a serious context and I'd love to see someone who knows more about the Android input system weigh in on it.
Why is right-click such a hard thing to get right on this device? It seems like Samsung have hobbled the trackpad for two-finger pressed for right-click, it's so very inconsistent for where it works and where it doesn't.
If I plug a USB mouse directly into the device, problem solved, no longer do I suffer right-click not working where it should.
Problem:
I have a hosted version of Visual Studio Code I use to do remote development work, it runs in a docker in on a server in my garage. Cool. But with the Samsung settings for two-finger clicks set to "open-context menu", the trackpad fails to register right-clicks in hosted VSC, why? If I use a regular mouse, it works just fine. If I do alonger press on items with the trackpad, it does right-clicks just fine, but that'd slow and awful. Just trying it now, there's even single-click events that don't work with the trackpad that do work with a USB mouse. Bizarre.
Exact same problem withr Microsoft's RDP application. USB mouse works as expected, trackpad? Nope. It almost seems like the trackpad input is been treated as finger input rather than android cursor input for some reason.
My other pet peeve about the trackpad, for both the S7 and S8 is that if you start typing on the keyboard, the trackpad gets fully disabled, and there is a delay for it to become usable again. So you're forever typing something, then poking away at the trackpad for it to come back alive again, very annoying. The trackpad automatic disabling behaviour is not configurable either, none of this is and it keeps the device just one step away from being truely great in my opinion.
Does anyone have any way to solve this issues? Am I going to have to root my device to use some sort of app to override the input coming from the keyboard cover?
Have you tried tapping with 2 fingers on the touchpad? Alot of touchpads has tap with 1 finger does left click and tapping with 2 fingers does right click. Instead of clicking down the right side of track pad.
Jake.S said:
Have you tried tapping with 2 fingers on the touchpad? Alot of touchpads has tap with 1 finger does left click and tapping with 2 fingers does right click. Instead of clicking down the right side of track pad.
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Yes I have. The right-click on the touchpad function only works in some places. If a use two finger taps on the touch pad on the home screen, it'll bring up a context menu, where as the same two finger tap in visual studio code web or in remote desktop just does left click actions and doesn't bring up a right click menu. Whereas, if I use a USB mouse, right click works in ALL those scenarios, it's very strange.
I have added a video demonstration to show the issue.
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I have added a video demonstration to show the issue.
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What app do you use for remote thing? Could be a issue with app you use to remote control visual studio code. You could try Remote Desktop app from microsoft instead and see if right click works better.
Update: Maybe not. Tried it now and right click does not even work at all in the Remote Desktop app from Microsoft. Weird, but i would like to still know app you use. That brings up visual studio code like that up only with nothing else.
Update #2: Nvm after closer look at video it does show bar on bottom and i could see you are remote controlling on windows xp device right?
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What app do you use for remote thing? Could be a issue with app you use to remote control visual studio code. You could try Remote Desktop app from microsoft instead and see if right click works better.
Update: Maybe not. Tried it now and right click does not even work at all in the Remote Desktop app from Microsoft. Weird, but i would like to still know app you use. That brings up visual studio code like that up only with nothing else.
Update #2: Nvm after closer look at video it does show bar on bottom and i could see you are remote controlling on windows xp device right?
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So, Visual Studio Code in the video is literally just running through the web browser (you can save specific web sites so they show up on your home screen and run without the need for an address bar, like I did with this). So Chrome or Kiwi Browser, what ever, same issue. For remote desktop stuff (not shown) I use Microsoft RDP or Parsec, both exhibit issues ONLY with the trackpad (or any bluetooth trackpad I connect, the Apple Magic Trackpad for example). The issue goes away when I use a USB mouse.
Samsung need to fix their trash-tier trackpad software so real human beings can use it, and it behaves like a mouse.
Before this I had an Apple iPad Pro, with the fancy keyboard cover that has a mouse trackpad. It did all this stuff just fine.
EDIT: I just realised why you thought I was using Windows XP. The bottom bar of visual studio code just happens to have the same colour scheme as the old start bar from Windows XP, that's funny! That's actually the information bar for Visual Studio Code, like build status, etc.
Hello, I have same issue when using my Samsung S8 Ultra as second monitor for my windows notebook. If I try to right click on official samsung keyboard it does not work, while I can type and left click without any issue. Any Idea? Of course also two finger tap does not work.
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Anyone seen an app like this for the Android? I would love to be able to control my laptop whenever I hook it up to the HDTV.
http://www.mobileairmouse.com/
Haven't seen one for Android, but I've used a purpose built airmouse before for presentations.....it worked surprisingly well!
Something like this for Android would be excellent....also lots of fun to screw with your co-workers....almost as much fun as the Annoy-o-tron.
Well... there is an app that I have used called RemoteDroid. You need to have a small java app running in the background of the pc that you want to control but it basically turns your phone into a touchpad mouse. You can also check out Android Joystick which is basically the same concept except you tilt the phone the direction that you want to move. Kinda beta-ish and possibly abandonded but it's worth a look. I'm sure that there are more out there though. I did a search on Market for the word "Remote" and came up with a several varity of possible apps that may work for you. However as far as I can tell... there is no "Mobile Air Mouse" specific to the Android phones as of yet. It looks pretty interesting though.
GMote works for me.
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GMote works for me.
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Gmote looks like it doesnt even have keyboard or trackpad support. It seems to be just a media browser.
http://www.gmote.org/
Is that the Gmote you are referring to?
Binary100100 said:
Well... there is an app that I have used called RemoteDroid. You need to have a small java app running in the background of the pc that you want to control but it basically turns your phone into a touchpad mouse. You can also check out Android Joystick which is basically the same concept except you tilt the phone the direction that you want to move. Kinda beta-ish and possibly abandonded but it's worth a look. I'm sure that there are more out there though. I did a search on Market for the word "Remote" and came up with a several varity of possible apps that may work for you. However as far as I can tell... there is no "Mobile Air Mouse" specific to the Android phones as of yet. It looks pretty interesting though.
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Thanks, RemoteDroid works great
GMote has both trackball and keyboard support, plus streaming. One. Great app!
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GMote has both trackball and keyboard support, plus streaming. One. Great app!
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hmmm, i just checked the website again and I see it listed under the FAQ. Seems like that would be a feature they would want on the front page and in the screenshots...lol
If you just need trackball and keyboard support, RemoteDroid does it. Plus, RemoteDroid doesnt need to be installed on your computer just a 74.1 KB zip file with a java file needs to be run. Gmote requires you to download a 23 MB install file.
Gmote does have a larger install...but I can use my phone to control the computer, with Keyboard/trackpad/ball, and make my computer start playing music/vids, Open a web site I was reading on the phone, and play my music directly from the PC on my phone...so...yeah it's bigger...but it's also better, at least for me =). Also, running windows 7 here, remotedroid lags a LOT for me.
Thanks for the info.
I ended up having to install Gmote on my MacBook Pro. RemoteDroid wouldnt work for some reason on my Mac but Gmote works just fine. RemoteDroid works fine on WinXP though.
Question about Gmote: Is there a way to show mouse buttons on the touchpad?
Unfortunatly that is the one thing that I have been waiting for. Currently I can't click and drag due to the lacking button/multitouch.
But it still rocks =D
This is what you want
Android air mouse.
www dot mobilongtech dot com
I am not allowed to post external link. sorry for that.
gremote pro by GBM software works flawlessly.
premotedroid works successfully too.
Does anybody know any application that emulate mouse via accelerometer like Logitech MX Air Mouse?
Bluewave air mouse is nice. However, currently no accelerometer based app exists that I know of. The air mouse app on the iPhone doesn't really work flawlessly, I like trackpad apps much better. However: accelerometer + get it working as a bluetooth mouse = heaven.
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However: accelerometer + get it working as a bluetooth mouse = heaven.
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I have found the app that do this - MultiRemote.
In settings you can turn on wiiMode and after that move the mouse via phone position.
In top-bottom it works good, but for moving left-right I need to change the angle of phone (to left or right), but better will be to detect direction via compass or something else.
Or another method - detect not angle, but moving the device (top, bottom, left, right) - is it possible?
Does accelerometer detect only angle changing? Or it can detect device moving (accelerating and stopping)?
How does the program like Shwartz detects phone moving?
I use phone my pc. It has keyboard/mouse function. Control live/remote desktop style, control specific processes and such, and many more options.
The Best, hands down
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Anyone seen an app like this for the Android? I would love to be able to control my laptop whenever I hook it up to the HDTV.
http://www.mobileairmouse.com/
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RemoteDroid sucks, with Gmote you have to keep CMD running. The best by far is PhoneMyPc, it's around 10$, but you could get it free. Here's how, you'll need the aforum app, once in go to shared topics. The post is 3 months old so scroll a bit, the topic is (I'm hosting this site, plenty of apps for android etc.) There's a link that will take you where you need to go. The benefits of this app are, you can control as many computers as you want from anywhere in the world and can be used as a mouse, or you can interact live with your PC, keyboard from it and everything, works fine on 3G and even better with wifi, it's a beautiful thing, trust me. When I'm doing something on the computer and I have to fly, I can finish up from my phone on my PC. Some shots so you can see a bit.
Okay folks, so what's the last word on this one? Is there, or is there no Android app that does what www.mobilemouse.com does on iPhone? I am specifically interested in the "air mouse" bit, which means accelerometer-based cursor movement, no trackpad or other garbage. Does GRemote do that? Anyone tried it?
P.S. Ideally, the app should turn the Android phone into a Bluetooth HID air mouse, so that no SW has to be installed on the PC.
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Unfortunatly that is the one thing that I have been waiting for. Currently I can't click and drag due to the lacking button/multitouch.
But it still rocks =D
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A nicer way to do it would be good, but to click and drag: click and hold the trackball and drag on the touchpad.
I don't know if there have been any threads asking about this, but I figured I would share my success story to clear up any confusion or for anyone that was wondering. I just received my Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000, and I had zero problems pairing it up with my Streak that is on the Dell 2.2 Stock firmware (mine is rooted but this makes no difference in terms of the mouse working).
As soon as the mouse is successfully connected, a little cursor appears in the middle of the screen. So far, it looks like it works in just about any app. I've tried the browser, messaging, and even angry birds, and the cursor is on the screen 100% of the time. It even works on the lock screen, and can be used to unlock the phone just like a finger can. The scroll wheel also works for scrolling through menus and such, and in the browser, haven't really tested that extensively.
The scroll wheel button, and the right click do not seem to have any function, as well as the extra button that this mouse has on the left side.
It's working flawlessly so far! I'm thoroughly pleased that Dell Implemented the HID profile into the Streak, and a mouse cursor so that we can have this kind of functionality . If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask and I will answer the best I can (if anyone wants me to test this with a particular app, for example).
Way cool.
I have a BT Microsoft mouse at home I'll have to give it a try tonight.
Thanks for the heads up.
Sure thing .
I have yet to find an application that will allow me to map functions to the extra mouse buttons. If anyone has any ideas, please share.
I tried mine "Logitech" it working with scroll wheel.
BR
The mouse can operate simultaneously with the apple bluetooth keyboard (the used)
Tried with a MS IntelliMouse Explorer MDL: 1001 on streakdroid 1.9....no luck.
Does it allow you to copy and paste with the mouse?
I have gotten the Microsoft Presenter Mouse 8000 to work with my streak.
And as for selecting text, you can use it, but not how I expected to.
No click and drag but I can position the cursor with a mouse click then when I try to click and drag (e.g. select text) the "Edit text" pop appears and you can select "select text" (NOTE: the scroll wheel worked here). Then you and use the mouse to point and click where you want the select text to end.
Very cool.
Yeah great....but until we can connect to a monitor what's the point. Sorry to sound so negative but I think dell have been very short sighted.
If I could dock to a monitor then I would be a very happy man. If apple can do it.....
Android should have been first
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well... my dell streak dock has 720p out - that should work for a monitor .
Unless you tell me otherwise (and I hope you do) it only outputs video and audio. Not the entire streak desktop.
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I just tested the streak dock video out - and you are correct. Seems to be video only . THAT sucks!
motorola atrix display apk
is it possible to extract the display .apk file from a motorola atrix and see if it works on the streak so we can output the display from the streak to a monitor via hdmi? the streak in itself is a mini computer. i have just connected my apple mouse and bluetooth keyboard and headset all at once and i can use all of them together with out any glitch. imagine the possibilities. we shld ask the motorola atrix forum for the .apk and see if it works on the streak!
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is it possible to extract the display .apk file from a motorola atrix and see if it works on the streak so we can output the display from the streak to a monitor via hdmi? the streak in itself is a mini computer. i have just connected my apple mouse and bluetooth keyboard and headset all at once and i can use all of them together with out any glitch. imagine the possibilities. we shld ask the motorola atrix forum for the .apk and see if it works on the streak!
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I believe the atrix has a special webtop application installed in its rom, which allows it to output the desktop to an external monitor, it would probably be easier to look into external display mirroring instead of implementing the webtop..
Emission said:
As soon as the mouse is successfully connected, a little cursor appears in the middle of the screen. .
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Can you post a screen shot, please
I asked on the atrix forum and helpful guy pointed me here. It is an apk for mirroring the atrix. Maybe some one can look at the this maybe @dj_steve
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988852
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Any new news on this
Hey,
People, this is indeed interesting.
Any progress on this?
Care,
Sony.
No movement on this. I tried the atrix mirror (and the ones in the Market) nothing leaves the dock but the expected......boo
Thanks for the tip. I tried with my Think Outside BT mouse and it works as well. Was much easier than making the TO BT keyboard work...
has anyone thought about VNC?
I went out and grabbed a Microsoft Bluetooth Portable 6000 keyboard, which is fantastic, by the way. I purchased it with the sole purpose of using it with CM7 w/Bluetooth and aDOSBox. Yeah, I want to kick it old school.
First, when in landscape mode, it will not reorient the arrow keys. Up arrow is left, Left arrow is down and so forth. This is simply the keyboard not being remapped when orientation changes, however... I'm not seeing a simple way to compensate for this.
Any thoughts?
Also, I'm tempted to see what a Bluetooth mouse does on this. I'm finding that the keystroke standards in Android don't follow normal "Windows and clones" methodology. So, having to reach up and touch the screen displaces you enough to make it inconvenient to perform certain tasks.
Is there a proper mouse implementation either in Android or in the CM7 stack? If not, are they any APKs that would satisfy this?
I'm looking for a laptop replacement, if you get the gist of what I'm trying to do here. I want to be able to type a book on a Nook.
Ironic, eh?
I don't think android has the ability to change the key mappings based on orientation.. you might be able to write an app that would do this though. The easiest way to do this is to have to key maps and have your app switch between them when it detects and orientation change. That might not be very efficient but it would be fairly simple to write, I think.
As for the mouse, I can't comment on using it with the nook but I have used a bt mouse with other android devices and it works fine. It would just as you would expect.
I bought also a chinese flexible BT keyboard but has some lag sometimes.
Remapping of keys would interest me also.
There is a fix for the rotation problem. Also for getting the "<" and ">" buttons working. Search isn't working for me and i don't feel like manually combing the forums for it, but it's in a thread labelled "chisleu's mod" or something like that.
edit, found the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008612
I'm going to try this out. This is likely exactly what I'm looking for. I don't expect to use the keyboard in portrait mode... I'll let everyone know how it works for me.
I will eventually be cool enough to write something like this myself, but until then... Script Kiddie, AWAY!
Is there a work around for this?
Basically, most web site that you visit to activate drop down boxes, the mouse hover function does this, as I am using my finger, I cant hover a mouse.... so the box snaps open and shut too quickly.
This is a problem in IE10 and affects the surface too I believe. Unfortunately we are stuck with IE10 on the device.... In IE9, it used to bring up a text box....
I spend quite a lot of time surfing, whilst travelling to work.... If this cant be fixed, soon, my phone will have to go back, as I believe it is not fit for purpose.
Other phones and in fact I-devices work around this. I think arrogantly, Micosoft believe that web developers should change their devices....:laugh::laugh:
On WP7 it usually works if I press and hold on the drop down, which opens the "copy url" dialog, then I tap elsewhere to get that to go away. The dropdown usually activates at this point.
You have to admit it is pretty dumb to have a dropdown menu be a link in of itself. There are a number of things besides touch devices that can't work with this correctly, and frankly it's just annoying because if the drop down delay is too long, I click it thinking it's like every desktop menu ever, and it brings me where I don't want to go. I don't know who thought it would be good to defy conventional wisdom and change up the way things work on the web vs in software.
I know its new, but does anyone think its possible to hack in some sort of control so that we could leave the phone plugged in and when texts etc are recieved we could reply using the keyboard rather than virtual mouse touch controls? it seems like given we can control the entire phone from out pcs now this should have been an option.
This would be awesome!
Samsung has SideSync for Android phones, where you can expand the screen, use the mouse pointer on the phone and even drag and drop stuff! Something like this for Windows Phone would be amazing, but let's see what the future will bring
There is a way to type using your keyboard...
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I know its new, but does anyone think its possible to hack in some sort of control so that we could leave the phone plugged in and when texts etc are recieved we could reply using the keyboard rather than virtual mouse touch controls? it seems like given we can control the entire phone from out pcs now this should have been an option.
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I was also looking for a way to make keyboard input work on the phone, so I could type and send text messages. I didn't find anything out there that would do this, so I wrote a program of my own that clicks your mouse onto the phone letters as you type on your computer keyboard. It works so well that I made it configurable to work on any Windows Phone. I am a new member on the forum here so it won't let me post any links, but if you are interested you can go to www winphonetyper dot com and check it out. Or email me at [email protected] or [email protected]