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[Open Thread] Thoughts On Otterbox Case For EVO Shift 4G

So I just wanted to start a thread for myself and anyone else who may want to read it
Basically anyone who has an otterbox case for the evo shift or has seen/used it or whatever just leave your opinions/reviews whatever. I am thinking of buying one so just wondering

I don't have one for the Shift but I've used an Otterbox on other devices and would recommend it if you have the slightest fear of damaging your handset.
I believe the last one I used was a Commuter which completely encased the handset and seemed to be able to take a hit. The back was too smooth for me so I had a little trouble re-learning how to hold it and the thickness of the handset increased significantly but overall it felt safe. Worth the extra money.

I am using the otterbox commuter case on my shift right now. I like it a lot. The fit and finish seems like it is completely a part of the phone. Only two complaints are:
1. If I try to move an icon from one hone screen to another, the piece covering the screen makes it difficult to move it to the "edge" - not a big deal, you learn to adjust.
2. When opening the slider, I hear a click sound, sounding like the little tabs holding the upper piece on are catching as it moves. Again, kinda not picky.
All in all, I think it is a great case and makes me worry a lot less about dropping my device. I would definitely recommend it.
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Awesome seems like ill want to pick it up. I recently cracked the screen on my shift and made a few scuff marks so that's what seriously turned me to getting the case.

notsointeresting said:
Awesome seems like ill want to pick it up. I recently cracked the screen on my shift and made a few scuff marks so that's what seriously turned me to getting the case.
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Tip for putting on the included screen protector...patience and a clean work surface! I couldn't get it to work well at first, then I ended up dropping it on the carpet. I was ready to give up on it until my wife took it from me and got it to work. So...if you have the patience of an ADHD kid on meth like I do...lol. It was my first screen protector too so. Anyways have fun!
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definitely worth getting. i have the commuter series otterbox and it makes my phone look and feel like a beast. only thing that annoys me sometimes is the dust/lint that gets stuck to the rubber on the case, but i just blow it off.

zeke803 said:
2. When opening the slider, I hear a click sound, sounding like the little tabs holding the upper piece on are catching as it moves. Again, kinda not picky.
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I haven't had a problem opening the slider at all.
I have one and love it! Top of the line case, looks good feels good and protects good! I would totally recommend it to anyone with a Shift!..

I use it on my shift, and have had them on two other phones. Like everyone else said, its a great case, and really does look like a part of the phone.
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I'm now on my second otterbox after a free factory replacement, my only nit pics are the usb port cover doesn't stay closed, and it clicks everytime I open it, feels like one of the clips is catching....
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Just got the Commuter series and I'm a fan so far. Makes the phone feel more substantial and gives a better grip. The only issue was with the headphone and USB port covers, which didn't stay down. I just removed them, but DON'T Rip them off, it'll tear the rubber casing. Found that out on the USB port one so I cut the headphone one off. Either way makes the rubber a little loose around the port but not hugely annoying unless you're a perfectionist(which I can be). I'll just apply a little glue and seat it on the plastic frame.
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Thanks for the answers guys! I'm definently going to pick one up in a couple days.
I do want to keep this thread open just so anyone can ask questions/leave other reviews for other people.

notsointeresting said:
Thanks for the answers guys! I'm definently going to pick one up in a couple days.
I do want to keep this thread open just so anyone can ask questions/leave other reviews for other people.
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Got the Otter Box Commuter of Ebay for 24.97 free shipping. in retail box

wcherin said:
Got the Otter Box Commuter of Ebay for 24.97 free shipping. in retail box
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That's great. The retail price from otterbox.com is $35 so thats a great buy. There's just something about ebay that I can't trust lol. That's me and my paranoia tho.

notsointeresting said:
That's great. The retail price from otterbox.com is $35 so thats a great buy. There's just something about ebay that I can't trust lol. That's me and my paranoia tho.
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Check also Amazon I got mine for about the same price .. 20 something and It's safer than eBay (for me it is)

kbrn said:
Check also Amazon I got mine for about the same price .. 20 something and It's safer than eBay (for me it is)
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Wow I found one for 22 on amazon thanks for the tip man

Once you have the front plate on the phone. How the hell do you get it off????
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Xx12thANG3LxX said:
Once you have the front plate on the phone. How the hell do you get it off????
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Its almost inpossible without breaking the case. I broke one of the clips in the process..... thank goodness for a warranty!
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Rooster85 said:
Its almost inpossible without breaking the case. I broke one of the clips in the process..... thank goodness for a warranty!
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I guess that's not technically a bad thing if the fronts hard to get off.
I just hope the back isn't the same when I get mine.
Is it?

notsointeresting said:
I guess that's not technically a bad thing if the fronts hard to get off.
I just hope the back isn't the same when I get mine.
Is it?
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Nope I can confirm that, being really careful you can take the back without any problem..
I Think that the front parts being hard to take off it's a good thing.

Had mine for 2 or 3 months now
Bought it from Amazon for like $25 when they finally came available for the shift and had to wait a month before I got it in hand.
I'm not as impressed as i would be with the protection if it was a defender case. I had the black case with fake carbon fiber and belt clip before. The otterbox commuter is better then that one, by how much I'm not sure.
I dropped my phone about a month ago. I don't know if it just hit the right place of the case, and the back case came flying off the phone, the side clips where busted off, so the back case would not stay on any more.
I decided to call up otterbox and see if it was under warr. and if they would replace it. AMAZINGLY they said YES so they shipped me a new one for free i didn't even have to pay shipping. NICE. It was quick and easy I thought that was soooo cool. Because of that i will continue to buy otterbox, and recommend them to others.
In future i hope to buy defender cases (better protection) which means no more slider phones which i think i am ready for now that touch screens are so much better. All my old phones have been sliders with full keyboards from back in the day with my old HTC t-mobile MDA, which made me find this site.
Thats my 2 cents.

Oberon Cases

http://oberondesign.com/e-reader-covers-12/nexus.html
I have not had my hands on any of these cases recently but I did get my hands on one for the nook several years ago. the case was solidly designed and with good quality leather.
They have several nice designs, but are a bit on the more expensive side.

slight22 said:
http://oberondesign.com/e-reader-covers-12/nexus.html
I have not had my hands on any of these cases recently but I did get my hands on one for the nook several years ago. the case was solidly designed and with good quality leather.
They have several nice designs, but are a bit on the more expensive side.
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Very nice, pricey (at least for me). Reminded me of Lord of Rings, Wizard-like.

Lol! Paying over 1/3 the price you paid for the actual device on a cover is just dumb to me.

akarol said:
Lol! Paying over 1/3 the price you paid for the actual device on a cover is just dumb to me.
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Maybe but i thought they worth mention because i know a lot of "dumb" people that have bought these for their devices. The ipad ones are 123 bucks. But the quality of the covers is probably the tops of what i have ever seen.

I generally HATE leather cases but if they came out with a Necronomicon one a la Evil Dead/Army of Darkness I would be all over it.

_MetalHead_ said:
I generally HATE leather cases but if they came out with a Necronomicon one a la Evil Dead/Army of Darkness I would be all over it.
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+1000!! :laugh:
But I bought one of these for my wifes nook back in the day and it is a sweet case. Definately worth the price, when you talk about quality equating to price.

They look so Diablo'ish! If Deckard Cain had a tablet.... This would be the case he would use!! Haha

Guess I am one of the dumb one. Would prefer buying quality 1 time as opposed to 5 cheap Chinese knockoff crap but more power to you.
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Moricon said:
Guess I am one of the dumb one. Would prefer buying quality 1 time as opposed to 5 cheap Chinese knockoff crap but more power to you.
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Define "Quality" because aside from a single expensive slab of leather, there's NOTHING here. This case offers nearly ZERO protection against, well, anything. The damned tablet is literally held in with STRINGS FFS! Not good ones either, nooo. They are elastic bungee and will allow the thing to hit the ground under impact. Then they want you to bend it backwards and TIE IT THAT WAY and call this a stand? LOL. Now, sure the leather is nice looking. But to call this a "case" is probably illegal in several countries. Let's call it what it is. It's a fashion accessory. Nothing more. Now if a fashion accessory is worth more to you than protecting your device, then by all means spend 70 bucks on it. It's a free country. I want you to have whatever you want, and pay as much as you want to for it. But don't come in here talking down to everyone else that didn't buy this case like we are dumb and are gonna have to replace ours over and over while you, in your infinite wisdom, will not. This just makes you a douche bag, Our cases might be less expensive, but every one of those 5 "Chinese Knockoffs" (as you call them)will protect this device better and for longer than this ridiculous attempt at a case. Does that make you dumb for having bought one? Only if you labor under the delusion that because you paid so much for it, it's somehow a better quality case and will protect your tablet better. Because it won't. Not even close. It's just pretty. Pretty useless.

*stare at all the prettys* :victory:
*look at all the big numbers* :crying:
*shakes self out of it*
All the pretty things I will buy... after I go sell a movie script!
-Ara

If you can afford it, why not? No need to name call.

ppp38 said:
If you can afford it, why not? No need to name call.
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Definitely agree. Although these are very nice looking, for $70 I'll probably go with something else. The fact that they sell replacement bungee cords makes me question whether it will last.
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Joe T said:
Definitely agree. Although these are very nice looking, for $70 I'll probably go with something else. The fact that they sell replacement bungee cords makes me question whether it will last.
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The replacement cord I think is for the closing mechanism to the case. That would make sense I think.
I bought the case for my wife's nook based on the look, quality and yes protection of it. The nook is already covered with a skin from decalgirl.com and a screen protector, and using this cover does indeed offer some protection. No it's not a Seidio case, it's a case that is pretty much a wallet lol. But the protection I speak of is the protection of the screen from impact if something would happen to fall upon the screen.
But everyone has their opinion, which is fine, but why the hate. If you don't like it, move on. There are many other choices out there besides this if this doesn't float your boat.

Exactly. Never said there was anything wrong with buying it. Just saying that simply because it's 10x the price of all these others does not mean in any way that it's "Worth" 10x as much in protection or durability. So people acting like it is are only kidding themselves.

I was going to buy one instantly, then I saw that the tablet was held in by strings and elastic cords, and while its stunning on the outside, it looks cheap as **** when the cover opens. I wish they had a better looking system to secure the tablet, that's atrocious.

Semantics said:
I was going to buy one instantly, then I saw that the tablet was held in by strings and elastic cords, and while its stunning on the outside, it looks cheap as **** when the cover opens. I wish they had a better looking system to secure the tablet, that's atrocious.
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I kinda agree with you there, but I think of it as being able to use the same case in another 7" device down the road.

I was going to buy one instantly, then I saw that the tablet was held in by strings and elastic cords, and while its stunning on the outside, it looks cheap as **** when the cover opens. I wish they had a better looking system to secure the tablet, that's atrocious.
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I've had a couple of their cases and trust, they're anything but cheap looking and feeling. I bought mine used from other forum members, so I paid half, but that's a QUALITY case. They don't charge those prices for nothing. They can charge that because it's a great case and there's a market for them. You won't pay it, fine. They are supposed to have an old world feel to them. The leather and wool on the inside is something.
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Semantics said:
I was going to buy one instantly, then I saw that the tablet was held in by strings and elastic cords, and while its stunning on the outside, it looks cheap as **** when the cover opens. I wish they had a better looking system to secure the tablet, that's atrocious.
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If you watch the video on the Oberon website it shows that the tablet is held in quite securely in the case. Also they give you extra strings to close the latch so if you can go a year without having to replace it I'd consider that a non issue.
I'm interested in hearing any reviews for this case

_MetalHead_ said:
I generally HATE leather cases but if they came out with a Necronomicon one a la Evil Dead/Army of Darkness I would be all over it.
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I wouldn't care if it would be three times the cost of the device, I would definitely be buying that! :laugh:

No I don't belive cost = quality (far from it actually). Didn't mean to start anything but I do think a lot of thought went into these. The video was very informative about the design choices (which is what it always comes down to).
As far as protection my opinion is that as long as the cover is closed the edges of the leather will absorb more than most without transferring the shock to the tablet. If it falls with the cover open there is a greater chance of it breaking (just like the rest)
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Case review thread

Hey everyone,
Got my nillkin case:
http://www.nillkin.com/chinese/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=&tid=&cid=&scid=&id=2739&page=
Pros: There is a fine texture on the back of the case. Really improves your confidence regarding holding it.
The smooth case of of stock Note kinda makes you feel like it might slip right out.
Holes are cut pretty well. I kinda wish it was little bit thicker to protect the camera more.
Cons: It's too thin. Meaning it doesn't really fit all that well with the cover on.
However, if you remove the back cover it's pretty good actually. You lose your NFC antenna if you do this though.
The top and bottom are basically exposed.
This is, one one hand, annoying, and on the other hand - At least I don't have to worry about headphone port blockage, or worse - making the USB port even more annoying than it is now.
I haven't tried the included screen protector yet.
- Frank

Has anyone seen this case?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/200830048203?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
This looks pretty sweet
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ChodTheWacko said:
Hey everyone,
Got my nillkin case:
http://www.nillkin.com/chinese/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=&tid=&cid=&scid=&id=2739&page=
Pros: There is a fine texture on the back of the case. Really improves your confidence regarding holding it.
The smooth case of of stock Note kinda makes you feel like it might slip right out.
Holes are cut pretty well. I kinda wish it was little bit thicker to protect the camera more.
Cons: It's too thin. Meaning it doesn't really fit all that well with the cover on.
However, if you remove the back cover it's pretty good actually. You lose your NFC antenna if you do this though.
The top and bottom are basically exposed.
This is, one one hand, annoying, and on the other hand - At least I don't have to worry about headphone port blockage, or worse - making the USB port even more annoying than it is now.
I haven't tried the included screen protector yet.
- Frank
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Did you order this from eBay?

05GT said:
Did you order this from eBay?
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yea, from the post in the master accessories thread.

peoples_flip said:
Has anyone seen this case?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/200830048203?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
This looks pretty sweet
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It's great and i've the same for my Galaxy Note 1 but i'm not sure it's okay for the Note 2 because metal and NFC work not good ... What do you think about that ?

ChodTheWacko said:
yea, from the post in the master accessories thread.
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If you don't mind my asking, what was the shipping turn around time?

[email protected] said:
It's great and i've the same for my Galaxy Note 1 but i'm not sure it's okay for the Note 2 because metal and NFC work not good ... What do you think about that ?
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I have the same question, it looks awesome but not sure about the metal and connectivity.

05GT said:
If you don't mind my asking, what was the shipping turn around time?
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About 10 days - typical hong kong shipping.
The screen protector isn't staying on very well.

What about simple protection? Is it that bad as u said cos its thin and it doesn't fit well? Or still one can assume it's safe (i rarely drop my phones)..
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Nillkin Fresh smart case is the bomb

Recently received my case from ebay, cost a grand total of 8.88 bucks sh included. The flip works great and the phones detects it.
Does not feel flimsy or cheap!
I wrapped the back with cf vinyl that I had laying around (yes i know some debris got stuck under there but it doesn't bother me)

evochuck said:
Recently received my case from ebay, cost a grand total of 8.88 bucks sh included. The flip works great and the phones detects it.
Does not feel flimsy or cheap!
I wrapped the back with cf vinyl that I had laying around (yes i know some debris got stuck under there but it doesn't bother me)
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I has the original from LG... and already ordered some bumper ... got annoyed from having to open it and close it, also whilst playing normal games its just in way. As well was the cause for me throwing the phone on the ground, finger got stuck in the hole.
If it was a phablet, tablet, I would maybe like it. If it was even Amoled that it had some nice options to it as well.
But since there are no real apps for the quick window, no real or good notification, and I got incredibly annoyed by the ever changing clock or aps.
Anyway . Sorry for the rant

PAGOT said:
I has the original from LG... and already ordered some bumper ... got annoyed from having to open it and close it, also whilst playing normal games its just in way. As well was the cause for me throwing the phone on the ground, finger got stuck in the hole.
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Instructions unclear, got finger stuck in hole?

khaytsus said:
Instructions unclear, got finger stuck in hole?
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something like that . Also did I mention now in the place of the hole there is a oily spot on the screen protector?. Once in a pocket and I have to always clean it ...

evochuck said:
Recently received my case from ebay, cost a grand total of 8.88 bucks sh included. The flip works great and the phones detects it.
Does not feel flimsy or cheap!
I wrapped the back with cf vinyl that I had laying around (yes i know some debris got stuck under there but it doesn't bother me)
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Can you link me to the case and the vinyl you used?

GhostSoldier_US said:
Can you link me to the case and the vinyl you used?
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I second this
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GhostSoldier_US said:
Can you link me to the case and the vinyl you used?
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For the case, just search lg g2 nillkin on ebay
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GhostSoldier_US said:
Can you link me to the case and the vinyl you used?
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Sorry for the late delay, case link is here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/15119514071...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
(thats the exact one i bought)
As for the CF vinyl, i comes from a generic car wrap vinyl roll form ebay. Such as :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Twill-We...Parts_Accessories&hash=item58aad06aa8&vxp=mtr
I have a bad habit of wrapping my devices when I get bored just grab an xacto knife and a hair dryer and get to work! (does a WHOLE lot better job then precut CF)

evochuck said:
Sorry for the late delay, case link is here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/15119514071...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
(thats the exact one i bought)
As for the CF vinyl, i comes from a generic car wrap vinyl roll form ebay. Such as :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Twill-We...Parts_Accessories&hash=item58aad06aa8&vxp=mtr
I have a bad habit of wrapping my devices when I get bored just grab an xacto knife and a hair dryer and get to work! (does a WHOLE lot better job then precut CF)
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No worries and thank you!

Review: Artech-21 Full Grain Leather Wallet Case

Hello fellow XDAers,
I was chosen to write a review for Artech's new product, which is a full leather wallet for our beloved G4's. Please see Amazon's link for the full product description:
http://www.amazon.com/Artech-21-Pre...qid=1433632855&sr=8-1&keywords=artech+case+g4
From the moment you open the package, the scent of real leather overcomes all of your other senses. The shipment arrived with bubble wrap within the envelope, with Styrofoam foam packaged within to prevent the wallet from being crushed during shipment. Upon closer examination, it is easy to tell that the leather is of premium grade by sight, if not by touch.
The fitment of the phone and credit card is superb. Once you slip your phone into position, the case holds onto it for its dear life. I attempted to "yank" it out of position to see how easily the phone would fall out if I were to take the case in and out of my pocket, but it's almost like the phone is completely locked into the slot. It feels extremely secure, thus, I would not worry about the phone slipping out for any reasons, accidental or not. The two credit card slots, as well as the transparent slot for the ID card fits nicely, yet, it allows for you to easily remove them from its slots in order for the cards to be used (swiped). The transparent ID slot has a hole for you to slide your finger to remove the ID from its slot.
The cutouts are literally perfect all around. The camera, volume buttons, flash, light sensors, speakers are perfectly aligned, while the headphone jack, charger port, the dual mics, and IR sensors are exposed for connectivity. All of which, still remains within the case to prevent damage, of course. The case closes with a magnetic clip that attaches on its own upon closing, and does not appear to be flimsy.
The case wallet is created based on "simplicity." It "only" allows two cards (three, if you include your ID), and would allow for just a few US bank (currency) notes. Personally, I'd give this a 4.75 star out of 5. The only reason is that I can't seem to fit bank notes without having to fold them. I can certainly understand that many people do not carry cash, and I do not often do it either. However, this is a wallet - and I would expect a wallet to hold cash properly.

I haven't got mine yet. I'm expecting it tomorrow and will double around with another review as that was my promise. Look at all them 100's. Haha

Let me know if anyone is interested in this case. I only wanted to do the review on it, but I'd like to stick to my Ringke since it's great for working out.

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I haven't got mine yet. I'm expecting it tomorrow and will double around with another review as that was my promise. Look at all them 100's. Haha
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Did you get yours ?

Artech21-Offical said:
Did you get yours ?
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It's in the mail at home. I'm at work right now.

Sfkn2 said:
Let me know if anyone is interested in this case. I only wanted to do the review on it, but I'd like to stick to my Ringke since it's great for working out.
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Just review , but not use it ?

carolineOHIO said:
Just review , but not use it ?
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Yes. Always curious of new things!

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Yes. Always curious of new things!
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okay , i understood .
thank you for your review anyway

TTT

Sfkn2 said:
Let me know if anyone is interested in this case. I only wanted to do the review on it, but I'd like to stick to my Ringke since it's great for working out.
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I aM!

officerdoofy said:
I aM!
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You got PM.

Sfkn2 said:
You got PM.
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are you selling them ?

carolineOHIO said:
are you selling them ?
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No, just giving away my review unit.

FYI to all interested, I have shipped my review unit to @officerdoofy today so that someone else can enjoy the goodies, too.

Do credit cards give any danger to the screen such as pressing down on each other and rubbing against each other?
I've always worried that this kind of flip case might scratch the screen.
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sharpehenry said:
Do credit cards give any danger to the screen such as pressing down on each other and rubbing against each other?
I've always worried that this kind of flip case might scratch the screen.
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The cards have no chance to rub against each other - they are clearly separated. I do not see the cards scratching the screen upon closing or opening, however, I suppose there is always a chance of this when you're storing your phone with other items in your pocket/purse, etc. Due to the padding of the area around the cards, I want to say that it is probably safe on your screen.

Sfkn2 said:
FYI to all interested, I have shipped my review unit to @officerdoofy today so that someone else can enjoy the goodies, too.
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Just wanted to thank Charlie again for his generosity.
I got the case and I'm impressed with the quality of the leather and the crafting. Definitely has the genuine leather smell and it looks like it would need to take a pretty severe beating to bend or crease or crack. As far as functionality, I don't think I'm going to use it as a full time wallet since I've just gotten to used to my own, but one of the reasons I like this case is I usually just toss my phone into my messenger bag/laptop bag for work so this case will definitely protect the phone from keys, pens, cables rubbing against it... etc. or also if you ever put your phone down and worry about the surface being wet or dirty.
The plastic backing seems sturdy enough to keep the phone from shifting out or getting loose.
I will probably also end up buying the dark brown version. :good:

sharpehenry said:
Do credit cards give any danger to the screen such as pressing down on each other and rubbing against each other?
I've always worried that this kind of flip case might scratch the screen.
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Credit cards dont have enough hardness to scratch the screen. And put a tempered glass screen protector on

sharpehenry said:
Do credit cards give any danger to the screen such as pressing down on each other and rubbing against each other?
I've always worried that this kind of flip case might scratch the screen.
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To be honest , even your key can not make a scratch on the screen .
but the sand will ( Same thing as Diamond ,lol)

Just ordered the dark brown one from Amazon also. This is a quality product. :good: I can't stop holding the case to my nose and getting high off the smell of the leather. :silly: