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I currently own a Xiaomi mi 8, I love my cell phone but I think it's time to give way to a flagship. My options are the Mi 9T Pro and the Samsung Galaxy S10 +. Which smartphone do you recommend?
Well, if you're happy with xiaomi I guess mi9T pro is a great phone, but if you want something else I whould recommend oneplus 7T or Samsung galaxy S10E if you want a Samsung phone.
But if you're looking for the best bang for your buck I think realme X2 pro is the best option along side OP 7T
crhistiandavidbonilla47 said:
I currently own a Xiaomi mi 8, I love my cell phone but I think it's time to give way to a flagship. My options are the Mi 9T Pro and the Samsung Galaxy S10 +. Which smartphone do you recommend?
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I would strongly suggest that you wait until March..at least. This way you can buy one of the many new phones that will feature an Snapdragon 865 processor. Such as the Xiaomi Mi10, Mix 4, One Plus 8, 8T etc.
Moving one generation higher isn't really enough of a difference to justify moving. Plus many of the phones with the very latest processors will also be compatible with 5G., and once these new phones are released the price of current flagships will definitely drop, so it's financially wiser to be patient.
If you search you will see quite a few posts here on XDA , where people discuss how they bought a Mi9T or a Samsung and they wanted to share that they regretted buying a new phone because they were expecting the new phone to have dramatic differences.
By the way, I had also considered selling my mi8 and moving on. But I will definitely wait.
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Well, if you're happy with xiaomi I guess mi9T pro is a great phone, but if you want something else I whould recommend oneplus 7T or Samsung galaxy S10E if you want a Samsung phone.
But if you're looking for the best bang for your buck I think realme X2 pro is the best option along side OP 7T
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Realme x2 pro It is a good option but I cannot get it in my country in an official way
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I would strongly suggest that you wait until March..at least. This way you can buy one of the many new phones that will feature an Snapdragon 865 processor. Such as the Xiaomi Mi10, Mix 4, One Plus 8, 8T etc.
Moving one generation higher isn't really enough of a difference to justify moving. Plus many of the phones with the very latest processors will also be compatible with 5G., and once these new phones are released the price of current flagships will definitely drop, so it's financially wiser to be patient.
If you search you will see quite a few posts here on XDA , where people discuss how they bought a Mi9T or a Samsung and they wanted to share that they regretted buying a new phone because they were expecting the new phone to have dramatic differences.
By the way, I had also considered selling my mi8 and moving on. But I will definitely wait.
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You are absolutely right, it is better to wait a couple of months and get a flagship, and this year all top-of-the-range smartphone will have the screen with a minimum refresh rate of 90Hz
Greetings,
I want to buy a new phone. I am coming from Xiaomi world. I am not a gamer. I use it mainly for reading (online, e-books), youtube videos and some photography during my hiking trips (which are getting rare due to covid-19).
I would like to buy either Note 8 or Note 9 FD version phone from Aliexpress since they are now getting a bit cheaper. I've tried Xiaomi 9s and I wasn't impressed with the display dimness, battery life and overall quality etc. considering I am paying close to 200 euros.
I would like to pay a bit more to get a solid phone with stylus. For Note 8 I will also buy an external battery (I don't mind the bulk) to equalize or better the battery life on the phone.
My questions to you Samsung Note owners are:
1. Which version of the phone has better chances from XDA community to get Android 10 and/or 11 support for Custom ROMs.
2. In your opinion in 2020 if you were offered this phone under 300 euros, would you still buy it?
3. Any quirks, advice you would like to share with a newbie like myself.
4. For another 100 euros extra I can also get Note 9 FD version, aside from the stereo speakers, slightly better display brightness, slightly bigger battery (I will negate that with external battery case), should I buy note 9?
Many thanks in advance for any help or comments
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Greetings,
I want to buy a new phone. I am coming from Xiaomi world. I am not a gamer. I use it mainly for reading (online, e-books), youtube videos and some photography during my hiking trips (which are getting rare due to covid-19).
I would like to buy either Note 8 or Note 9 FD version phone from Aliexpress since they are now getting a bit cheaper. I've tried Xiaomi 9s and I wasn't impressed with the display dimness, battery life and overall quality etc. considering I am paying close to 200 euros.
I would like to pay a bit more to get a solid phone with stylus. For Note 8 I will also buy an external battery (I don't mind the bulk) to equalize or better the battery life on the phone.
My questions to you Samsung Note owners are:
1. Which version of the phone has better chances from XDA community to get Android 10 and/or 11 support for Custom ROMs.
2. In your opinion in 2020 if you were offered this phone under 300 euros, would you still buy it?
3. Any quirks, advice you would like to share with a newbie like myself.
4. For another 100 euros extra I can also get Note 9 FD version, aside from the stereo speakers, slightly better display brightness, slightly bigger battery (I will negate that with external battery case), should I buy note 9?
Many thanks in advance for any help or comments
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The Note 9 would be the way to go and it answers all of your questions.. If you can afford the Note 9 it's better to get that versus the Note 8 which is no longer getting any updates anymore!
I agree with MrMike, although the Note 8 is still a great phone imo, if your budget can stretch to a Note 9 you should get that.
I am sure there will be many videos on YouTube comparing the Notes against each other, which may help you make the decision.
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2. In your opinion in 2020 if you were offered this phone under 300 euros, would you still buy it?
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In 2020, I'd buy a Note 10 (not even a Note 9). My only reason for a Note 9 over the Note 8, is the latest software update (not the bluettoth S Pen). Give it a few months before the Note 9 no longer gets software updates.
I actually have the cash to buy a Note 10 right now, but I can't find a fault with my Note 8 other than the lack of the latest variant of Android. I still wouldn't buy another Note 8 in 2020, but would have done so in 2019.
Get a note 9 if possible.... You ll get better battery, performance and updates. And there shouldn't be much of a price diff.... Just make sure u get a good piece. Some people are selling repaired ones.... With parts from diff models..... All the best
Thanks everyone. I think I will be getting the new M31s unless there is a significant price drop on Note 10 lite after Monday's S20 note announcement. I was looking for a cheap Amoled phone hence note 8 but learned of M31s about 220 euro price for 6GB RAM and I think for what I do with the phone and longer battery life this one fits my budget perfectly. Cheers
This phone seems so much better for a better or the same price or lower price
108MP an AMOLED display 120hz even the phone looks much better especially the camera module
good enough chipset
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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This phone seems so much better for a better or the same price or lower price
108MP an AMOLED display 120hz even the phone looks much better especially the camera module
good enough chipset
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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Fortunately, I keep thinking that I'll go for either Redmi Note 9 Pro or POCO X3 NFC from last months. But thanks for my "patience skill" so I could save my money to consider this phone.
Edit: Fixing some typos.
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Fortunately, I keep thinking that I'll go for either Redmi Note 9 Pro or POCO X3 NFC from last months. But thanks for my "patience skill" so I could save my money to consider this phone.
Edit: Fixing some typos.
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i'll probably upgrade in 2 or 3 years to the newest redmi phone if they keep getting out phones like this
this phone is absolutely amazing for the price hopefully redmi note 11 will also be the same if not even better
also poco x3 users are absolutely SEETHING
Using redmi note 7 from 2019, was looking for a good option for upgrade. I guess I got the perfect one, Redmi Note 10 Pro.
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i'll probably upgrade in 2 or 3 years to the newest redmi phone if they keep getting out phones like this
this phone is absolutely amazing for the price hopefully redmi note 11 will also be the same if not even better
also poco x3 users are absolutely SEETHING
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I wouldn't say many poco x3 are seething. spec wise is practically the same except the AMOLED and camera. I'm happy with good panel LCD screen on the x3- won't need to worry about burn-in/bleed if one is a heavy gamer. x3 is still one beast of a phone for the price!
Well Redmi Note 10 Pro (Global) and Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite (Global) are the two phones I'm looking for which for the 6/128 GB variant seem to cost just about the same (~265 €). My focus is on:
DualSIM, dedicated microSD, good stabilized video 1080p and possibly also 4k, very good day and ok night pictures, fast cpu/gpu (Antutu over 250k), Fast LTE with Bands 3,20,7,1,32 (8,38,28a), 3.5mm-Jack.
Both devices have those features. Unfortunately no Snapdragon 8 series devices with dedicated microSD and 3.5mm-Jack exist, so I need to stick to this lower mid-range class.
Redmi Note 10 Pro real advantage of 108 Mpx Samsung5K HM2 f/1.9 over 64 Mpx Sony IMX682 Exmor RS f/1.89 needs to be proven by side by side dedicated picture and video test. With GCam probably because of the slightly better processor in the Mi 10T Lite (Snapdragon 750G) it seems possible to activate EIS for 4k Videos. With Snapdragon 732G this seems unlikely to be possible. Also Mi 10T Lite has 3 of the 4 important 5G Bands in my area, could not find info that a Note 10 Pro Snapdragon Upgrade to 5G will be released (Global, the Note 10 5G is based on MediaTek).
So the advantages of Note 10 Pro (AMOLED, 108 Mpx, Radio FM) currently seem less important then those of Mi 10T Lite. I will wait until detailed camera comparisons are available, possibly with GCam for both devices.
EDIT: I need to correct that Mi 10T Lite (Global) according to several reviews on YouTube has no dedicated microSD (only hybrid DualSIM). Many techsheets online seem to have dedicated. This is a bummer and will leave only Redmi Note 10 Pro (Global) as candidate for my next buy.
5x optical zoom would have sold me, guess ill have to wait for another phone
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I wouldn't say many poco x3 are seething. spec wise is practically the same except the AMOLED and camera. I'm happy with good panel LCD screen on the x3- won't need to worry about burn-in/bleed if one is a heavy gamer. x3 is still one beast of a phone for the price!
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Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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Just sell it, buy Redmi Note 10 Pro and be one of the cool kids.
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Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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i had the lg v20 and it was supposedly a "flagship lg phone" but it was just a mess the two screen design didn't look at all and there was a lot of burn in
i didn't even know LCD panels can get burn in until i got that phone
Thing is the redmi note 9 variants have good, stable roms by now but it took months and months to get there, which was an exercise in frustration I'm not going to go through again, so I'm perfectly fine with my 9s and will get this one once/if there are solid roms available with all bugs squashed. Not interested in smelly Mi Ui.
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Thing is the redmi note 9 variants have good, stable roms by now but it took months and months to get there, which was an exercise in frustration I'm not going to go through again, so I'm perfectly fine with my 9s and will get this one once/if there are solid roms available with all bugs squashed. Not interested in smelly Mi Ui.
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The first stable (GSI) ROM was from sooti. Other non GSI ROMs weren't maintained long before you had to switch to another ROM. That's a pain.
I hope the Redmi Note 10 Pro or newer Poco phones will get better community support.
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Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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you are right
same here
i faced problems with my redmi note 7 screen burn and the battery too
i change it twice but seems not as good as the original
accubattery show me the capacity at 2000mah i cant find where is the problem with those new batteries
i ordered this new note 10 pro and i hope it will be a good choice
if not i will never buy xiaomi phones again
Need to rant again: I do not understand why in every series and also other brands with a better CPU (Snapdragon 8 series) they omit the microSD slot (not even shared) and in most cases also the 3.5mm-Jack. Is Google enforcing this?
The Redmi Note 10 Pro with Snapdragon 888 (865 also ok) and maybe better RAM specs would be awesome.
Don't worry. Exchange it with note 9 pro, you'll get a wholesome discount of 100$ or 9000₹.
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Need to rant again: I do not understand why in every series and also other brands with a better CPU (Snapdragon 8 series) they omit the microSD slot (not even shared) and in most cases also the 3.5mm-Jack. Is Google enforcing this?
The Redmi Note 10 Pro with Snapdragon 888 (865 also ok) and maybe better RAM specs would be awesome.
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this is not a flagship
this is a budget-ish phone
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this is not a flagship. this is a budget-ish phone
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Yeah, but why has it more interfaces-expansion-ports/connectivity then Xiaomi top phones? I would pay more and think the CPU, microSD slot and Jack alone would not make the phone much more expensive (like 600 $ or more). At least Redmi K40 Pro with Snapdragon 888 does cost only ca. 460 $ but has no microSD slot and no 3.5mm-Jack. Since everyone, not only Xiaomi, is doing it I do not understand it: why not use the integration of those two features as advantage to the competition? There must be some hidden policy behind this IMHO
Hah: It almost seems Xiaomi did use the strategy I wanted at least for the Poco X3 Pro (PX3P) presented yesterday! It has a shared/hybrid microSD slot and 3.5mm-Jack paired with a Snapdragon 860 - Antutu ~486k. By comparison the Snapdragon 732G in the Redmi Note 10 Pro (RN10P) has Antutu ~288k - Snapdragon 865 has Antutu ~615k and Snapdragon 888 has Antutu ~730k - so not top flagship performance but solid medium/premium territory, while the Snapdragon 732G now seems more budget level: even the Snapdragon 678 in the Redmi Note 10 (available for under 200$) delivers Antutu ~277k.
In addition PX3P has the advantage of UFS Storage 3.1 against UFS Storage 2.2 in RN10P. But it lacks FM Radio, AMOLED and also has no 5G. The "better" POCO F3 also presented yesterday by comparison is a rebranded Redmi K40 Pro (for Global) with Snapdragon 870 and 5G but no microSD (some sheets say it has Independent SD slot) and no 3.5mm-Jack and also good prices. The Poco F2 Pro at least has the 3.5mm-Jack.
Of course the camera in the PX3P seems disadvantaged with 48MP, f/1.79 IMX582 Exmor for the main lense, but fast CPU and memory are attractive for fast video editing etc. I will try to compare reviews with a focus on 4k EIS and 1080p EIS Video.
It's crazy how Xiaomi is coming up with these phones. Xiaomi is just competing with itself for 350USD and below phones right now
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It's crazy how Xiaomi is coming up with these phones. Xiaomi is just competing with itself for 350USD and below phones right now
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I agree. Some small competitors like Realme and Vivo try to deliver similar price/performance, but because much less models will be selled, much lower community support regarding GCam, CustomROMs (like Xiaomi.eu/mi-globe, AOSP/LOS based, etc.) will be available and so in my case much less attractive at similar price.
OnePlus has left this price territory and other interesting devices from Asus, Google, Samsung, Motorola just miss features and/or cost too much in comparison.
The thing I would like to see on sub 350$ Xiaomi phones is OIS (optical image stabilization) paired with gyroscope EIS stabilization to get top notch videos at 1080p or even 4k and at the same time less shaky/blurry images. But it seems Megapixel of the sensor are the stronger (selling) argument for the time being. In my case a top quality 12-18 Megapixel image is more then enough, I dislike the washed out details at zoom 1:1 of Smartphone best resolution pics on a Monitor screen.
Hello everyone Should I consider buying the RN10 PRO now after 9 months of release or am I too late? the phone basically ticks the boxes for the things I want but does it have ads? or camera has become downgrade? Or battery problems? Or Should I get a 5g phone but here it is expected at least 2 years or even more. But what should I do https://showbox.tools/ https://speedtest.vet/
Edit Also I don't change phones much so this phone good for long-term like 2-3 years from now?
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Hello everyone Should I consider buying the RN10 PRO now after 9 months of release or am I too late? the phone basically ticks the boxes for the things I want but does it have ads? or camera has become downgrade? Or battery problems? Or Should I get a 5g phone but here it is expected at least 2 years or even more. But what should I do
Edit Also I don't change phones much so this phone good for long-term like 2-3 years from now?
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it's a value for money device . if gaming is not priority go for it
If 5G is not your priority, this is the best device in this price segment. I bought this phone 18 days ago, initially I was skeptical because of the 5G dilemma as 5G is not yet here in my country. Plus this device was 10 months old. But finally decided to go for a 4G phone.
Or you can go for Redmi Note 11 series if you want 5G. Most 5G phones in this price segment have a lot of cost cutting tho.
Redmi note 10 pro is a good phone. But at the same price, you can get Realme 8s 5G. Only you have to compromise with the display.
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Is this still the best bang for the buck phone in 2022? custom ROMs still working good? issues ironed out? ShOuLd I bUy ThIs OvER a SaMmY pHoNe LiKe a A52?!?!??!
There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
Imho yes but only when you use custom kernel and rom. If you stick with stock ones especially Miui 13 it really sucks, Miui is too resource heavy for 732g SOC. For example when driving I like to listen to spotify in the background and use google maps even though these tasks are fairly lightweight this phone with Miui 13 struggles to run them without stutters and freezes. If you're okay with running stock android like rom, that is when the SOC shines. It runs much more apps than spotify and maps no problem real fluid.
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There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
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i'm kinda a die hard SD card and headphone jack dude - so this does limit my choices...i mean i had my galaxy note 4 for 6 years (with roms) lol and I'm just starting to get over the fact I won't be able to easily replace batteries in these new phones...ugh. thanks for your sobering input
no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
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Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
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I like OneUI a bit better, however Redmi has a better build quality and better camera.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
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Everything is more expensive in EU.
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The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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i found at same prime when buyed.. 260 euro for note 5 pro, 280 for a52
Note 10 Pro has proven to be still better that the next gen, freshly released Note 11 Pro. Easy to repair because screens are on the 120 bucks mark while the back cover is solid plastic, very nice to see and touch and won't break if you pry it for a battery change. Also the silicon cover is great from preventing fall damage.
After debloating its very balanced on any task, but don't expect flagship peak performance by any means yet battery lasts a lot (on short usage sessions it lasted me 3 days without charging, 1,5-2 with continuous/intense usage). Imho, after years going Samsung-only I had enough with Knox nonsense, increasing sales pricing and hard-to-repair phones.
According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
The Note 11 pro review I saw at gsmarena would suggest that the Note 11 pro is mostly a downgrade from the Note 10 pro, except for the 5g bands.
Edit to add: There's a 4g and a 5g version for it.
Yes, still the best in this price range of ~230 USD.
Samsung A52 costs 390 USD lol, not even comparable here
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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Yeah but 5G isn't available anywhere, plus the more users move into new cell tech the more smooth the 4G is going to be. Would not consider unless you're into high speed hype.
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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Realization just struck me. I have the Glacial Blue version that, along with Vintage Bronze are in fact frosted glass while there's not much about the black version which seems to be more common here. I got blinded by disassembly videos where non-Pro versions were considered the same thing as for Pro, so I just made a mistake. Guess I will eventually challenge myself to remove it in future whenever necessary, such as a battery change. They still look pretty simple and solid to remove and the glass lens vessel is separate tho (right, Apple?). Thanks for pointing out!
Yes, personally I don't care for 5g. 4g LTE is fine. One thing that both of the Note 11 Pro models (4g & 5g) have are increased 4g bands, too, that make them more compatible in the U.S. (bands 12 & 66). If 5g or those additional 4g bands matter to someone, those are improvements/features to consider.
I also saw replacement backs for the Note 10 pro, for around $5, and watched a video that made it look easy to change. Hopefully never have to do that.
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no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
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I have no problems with ANX, deep sleep, battery drain, etc. on my RN10P running the Project Sakura ROM. It's cool to prefer one phone over another, but spreading misinformation doesn't help anyone.
Development for this phone really isn't in a good place.
If you look at the latest posts on each of the ROMs, there's either big issues with heavy battery drain, touch issues or microphone problems.
Sad times